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Do you think feminism has gone too far?

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    #32
    Sherifu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Another sad lil Masochists hoping to get a trashing from me, funny how many of you lot there are :)
    *hugs*


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    #33
    Dragan
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    *also feels positive about sex*


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    #34
    Rb
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    zuutroy wrote: »
    Load of ****e imo....women allowed on the men's golf tour...imagine if it were the other way around...murder! Most of the time feminism is only invoked when it suits them.
    Augusta National have the right idea. No wimmens as members and they stand by it firmly.
    Similarily, womens only poker tournaments.

    If there was tournaments advertised as "men only" there'd be f*cking war and women chaining themselves to the gates outside in protest etc.
    AngryBadger wrote:
    Many women I encounter want equal rights when it suits them. If a situation arises where they're not happy they just turn on the water works. If a guy reacted like this he'd get a slap. And rightly so

    Likewise.


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    #35
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Ah and the guess dont' get the reason why women's only evens happen.
    It's to support and encourage women to take an active part in areas which have been seen as sterotypically male so that they can get some skillz.


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    #36
    imp
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    AngelinaJolie wrote: »
    And I am afraid I am part of the anti-chivelry brigade. I ******* hate it when a man holds a door open for me.

    I hate it when a woman assumes that I'm holding the door open for her because she's female.

    I hold the door open for anyone who happens to be walking with/just behind me and it irritates me to think that making the effort to do something kind for someone would cause them to be pissed off at me.


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    #37
    Rb
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    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Ah and the guess dont' get the reason why women's only evens happen.
    It's to support and encourage women to take an active part in areas which have been seen as sterotypically male so that they can get some skillz.
    Do you, as a woman, not find it somewhat condescending that they'd run women only events though?


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    #38
    djpbarry
    Registered Users Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    AngryBadger wrote: »
    Many women I encounter want equal rights when it suits them. If a situation arises where they're not happy they just turn on the water works. If a guy reacted like this he'd get a slap. And rightly so.
    +1
    StormWarrior wrote: »
    When feminism started, it was about equal rights, which is fair enough. But it seems to me it's going too far...
    Couldn't agree more. Where I work, the women have their own toilets! Some of them even wear clothes to work!


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    #39
    JavaBear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 209 ✭✭JavaBear


    taconnol wrote: »
    *Yawn*

    Try to be a bit more original in your misogyny please. You're boring us.

    Speak for yourself :D

    I think Golf got it right:

    Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden :cool:


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    #40
    Tigger
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    rb_ie wrote: »
    Do you, as a woman, not find it somewhat condescending that they'd run women only events though?


    i do and i'm not even a woman


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    #41
    thebman
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    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Ah and the guess dont' get the reason why women's only evens happen.
    It's to support and encourage women to take an active part in areas which have been seen as sterotypically male so that they can get some skillz.

    That's silly, it doesn't have to be exclusively for women to encourage women to do it. How about a statement in a press release that less women were involved in the mix club the previous year so this year you focus is on getting more women to attend or a similar statement (consider the above an example).

    Unless of course, the idea is women will have more fun if its only women there and they can share and say things they couldn't if it was a mixed club which is the exact same reason a men only club would exist. If its sexist for one, its sexist for the other.

    It seems your saying girls clubs are okay but boys clubs aren't. I disagree, I think both groups should be allowed have exclusive clubs if thats what they want. Personally I wouldn't be too keen on joining a club full of men, something about a club with only men, actively discouraging women from joining that seems kind of ghey TBH.


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    #42
    carolmon
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    imp wrote: »
    I hate it when a woman assumes that I'm holding the door open for her because she's female.

    I hold the door open for anyone who happens to be walking with/just behind me and it irritates me to think that making the effort to do something kind for someone would cause them to be pissed off at me.


    Totally agree it's basic manners, I also hold the door for anybody behind me, male/ female whatever,
    and I'd view myself as a feminist but dislike when important issues such as global gender inequalities get condensed into being pissed off at somebody being mannerly?? Don't appreciate somebody letting a door slam in my face just to demonstrate he doesn't view me as the weaker sex.


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    #43
    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar
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    CantGetNoSleep wrote: »
    Women will never be as good as men and should never be treated equall or given positions of power

    Just look at the f*ck up Maggie Thatcher made, f*ckin c*nt

    aye, sure there's never been an empire headed by a woman that owned people and property on all six continents.


    just couldn't happen.


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    #44
    Nevyn
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    rb_ie wrote: »
    Do you, as a woman, not find it somewhat condescending that they'd run women only events though?

    No.
    Not everyone woman is the type which has the ball busting trail blazing confidence to brave what are seen as male bastions and go in and insist to be treated equally and to tough it out.

    Such events encourage female participation and let women gain some confidence and skills and raises the profile of females in such areas which makes other women and girls consider taking up such an instrest.

    Ideally there should be no such need for such event but realistically we don't live in an ideal world.


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    #45
    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar
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    and of course gender discrimination is alright when it's anti-man.


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    #46
    Nevyn
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    JavaBear wrote: »
    Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden :cool:

    Yeah well as I have said before, I ain't no lady.


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    #47
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Mordeth wrote: »
    and of course gender discrimination is alright when it's anti-man.

    No it's not.


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    #48
    Tar.Aldarion
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    Woman. She have small brain.


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    #49
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    brim4brim wrote: »
    It seems your saying girls clubs are okay but boys clubs aren't.

    Nope that is not what I said.


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    #50
    Tigger
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    feck that anti-man crap do you really give a toss about the objectification of men in advertising and such like
    real men didn't notice

    edit : on re-reading this i noticed something strong independant men laugh and shun weaker men who worry about girls only poker nights , strong women protect and fight for their "side"/gender
    thats the differece


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    #51
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Tar.Aldarion wrote: »
    Woman. She have small brain.

    Man, he have less connections between their right brain and left brain.

    There are differences between men and women, they cant' be utterly equal.
    We have to give people equal rights and opportunities but while catering for their differences.


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    #52
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    rbd wrote: »
    feck that anti-man crap do you really give a toss about the objectification of men in advertising and such like
    real men didn't notice

    I do, I have a son and a daughter and worry about them both growing up and the impact such things have on them and the pressures and expectations on them both due to their gender.


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    #53
    Tigger
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    positive discrimination? i thought more of you


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    #54
    djpbarry
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    To quote Mr. Burgundy:
    Ron Burgundy wrote:
    I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science.


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    #55
    Tigger
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    djpbarry wrote: »
    To quote Mr. Burgundy:

    yeah but he's a pron star what would he know


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    #56
    useful_contacts
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    StormWarrior wrote: »
    Why? I feel that women who complain when men try to be chivalrous are ruining men for the rest of us.

    its just a personal thing, i hold the door open for people if they are coming in after me etc, but thats just being polite. I dont like the whole man holding the door thing (in everyday situations i dont mind, but if i was on a date and he held it open for me id deck him), maybe its just the traits of being a 90s child but its what i think.

    EDIT . Then again im more of a pint drinking/ football following girl, and ive mostly male friends so maybe thats why i think that way


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    #57
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    rbd wrote: »
    positive discrimination? i thought more of you

    Womens workshops are not positive discrimination unless they are used to by pass the entry process.

    Ie a womens poker session being used to place two women in two held slots for women and thus creating an unfair advantage.

    Seriously do guy not know how hard and intimidating it can be to be the only woman at what are considered 'male' events/jobs/trades/environments ?


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    #58
    CantGetNoSleep
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    Do people not just get that women are sh*t?

    I was at a soccer match lately and Ireland and Arsenal ladies (European champions) played on small goals at half time, usually the type that kids play on

    They just shouldnt be given the opportunity to do things like that, if we want to watch a womens match we will go to one, but no one does, as women are so inferior to men


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    #59
    CantGetNoSleep
    Registered Users Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    Tar.Aldarion wrote: »
    Woman. She have small brain.
    Exactly boy, and at that the brain is full up of crap


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    #60
    Tigger
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    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Womens workshops are not positive discrimination unless they are used to by pass the entry process.

    Ie a womens poker session being used to place two women in two held slots for women and thus creating an unfair advantage.

    Seriously do guy not know how hard and intimidating it can be to be the only woman at what are considered 'male' events/jobs/trades/environments ?


    why can't the women playu in a novices game

    i get that wome breaking in to male domninated areas should be supported once they have shown the qptitude to earn and deserve the place
    but
    they should not get there at the expense of a better equiped male even if it is genetic

    same goes across the board


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    #61
    djpbarry
    Registered Users Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    rbd wrote: »
    yeah but he's a pron star what would he know
    Oh dear...
    CantGetNoSleep wrote: »
    Do people not just get that women are sh*t?
    And people are worried that chivalry is dead...


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