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How many bayonets can you identify?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭enfield


    Three pictures for yis.
    One picture of a selection of inert ammo;
    http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/clondaleek/?action=view&current=Ammoid002.jpg


    Two pictures of grenades.

    http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/clondaleek/?action=view&current=Ammoid003.jpg

    http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/clondaleek/?action=view&current=Ammoid004.jpg

    Three of the date from ww1. Can you tell me which countries used them?
    Enjoy.
    Tom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭arnhem44


    one is a german disc grenade me thinks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭arnhem44


    as a guess i would have to say a british mills grenade,as for the other one beside it maybe belgian? and i haven't a clue about the other one and the only round thats familiar to me is the black round which i think is a blank


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭enfield


    You are correct one of them is the German ww1 discus handgrenade. You are also correct about the mills bomb (ww1 British hand grenade) this particular one was dug from the battlefields of the Somme. It is empty of course but still has the plunger, pin and 1916 dated base plug. The one beside it is a more modern one used by the Irish Army in the 1970s. I threw a live one of these in Kilpeddar during my training, an interesting experience and the longest 4 seconds of my life. Some of the rounds are fired blanks, can you name any of them?
    Tom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭arnhem44


    enfield wrote: »
    You are correct one of them is the German ww1 discus handgrenade. You are also correct about the mills bomb (ww1 British hand grenade) this particular one was dug from the battlefields of the Somme. It is empty of course but still has the plunger, pin and 1916 dated base plug. The one beside it is a more modern one used by the Irish Army in the 1970s. I threw a live one of these in Kilpeddar during my training, an interesting experience and the longest 4 seconds of my life. Some of the rounds are fired blanks, can you name any of them?
    Tom.
    you've got me on the rounds Tom and surprised me with the Irish connection,I would of never guessed that one,must of been excellent throwing one of them,I remember when I was on honeymoon in Hawaii I could of went to a gun range there and a fired a range of weapons such as an AK47,M16,a 357 Magnum and so on and to this day I'm kicking myself I didn't:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭enfield


    I certainly would have given the weapons a good going over. I have fired the Carl Gustav 84mm Recoilless Rifle, Gustav SMG, Browning Automatic Pistol. .303 No 4 Lee enfield, 7.62 FN Rifle, .303 Bren LMG and the 7.62 GPMG MMG. I fired the energa Rifle Grenade and threw the M3 36 mills grenade and enjoyed every second of it except the 4 seconds with the grenade (lol). I would have liked to shoot the .455 Webley, 1911 Colt, m1 carbine, Garand and the BAR and maybe the steyr and will do if the opportunity ever crops up that I can do it legally. Maybe when I am on holidays out foreign.
    If the chance ever crops up for you to use any weapons, legally of course, do it or you will always regret it.
    Regarding the ammo, lets see if there are any others who might be able to id some of them.
    Regards.
    Tom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Rashers


    enfield wrote: »
    I fired the energa Rifle Grenade

    Did you like the recoil? :D
    and threw the M3 36 mills grenade and enjoyed every second of it except the 4 seconds with the grenade

    Watching that little wisp of smoke before getting your head down ages you a bit.... not to mention the knowledge that the heat of your fingers can blow them off when inserting the igniter set. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,298 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    enfield wrote: »
    Three pictures for yis.
    One picture of a selection of inert ammo;
    http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/clondaleek/?action=view&current=Ammoid002.jpg


    Good selection there.
    A 9mm blank/drill A 7.62/308 plastic /drill round.[have one]
    A .303 Rim & .303 Bren ?if such exists.
    A .455 Webly Manstopper,next to a Mauser 7.62
    A 7.62 NATO/308 next to a 7.62X39 AK
    A Blank [8 mm??]somthing next to the 7.62 NATO
    Two 5.56 NATO/223 Rounds silver one a drill round? plus a 5.56 plastic blank[?]
    Top line 357 magnum next to a 45 long Colt[?] next to a 38 Special.
    Dunno what the other two are.:confused:

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭enfield


    Rashers, you waited for the smoke from the fuze? You Rambo type you!! I was on the ground before the grenade was. I fired the energa in Gormanstwon and used the back end of a trench to put the rifle butt against when I let her off. I could understand why the instructors would not allow us to use lanyards unstead of our finger though.

    Hello Grizzly. You did very well just from a picture.
    Here are your results;
    A 9mm blank/drill, Yes
    A 7.62/308 plastic /drill round.[have one], Yes.

    A .303 Rim, Yes & .303 Bren ?No.

    A .455 Webly Manstopper, yes but not a man stopper (head is ogival shaped not flat or hollowpoint).
    next to a Mauser 7.62, No.

    A 7.62 NATO/308, Yes
    next to a 7.62X39 AK, No.

    A Blank [8 mm??], Bang on.
    somthing next to the 7.62 NATO, Yes.

    Two 5.56 NATO/223 Rounds silver one a drill round?, Yes both correct.
    plus a 5.56 plastic blank[?], not a 5.56.

    Top line 357 magnum, Yes
    next to a 45 long Colt[?], No.
    next to a 38 Special yes with a semi wadcutter head.
    Dunno what the other two are.

    What are the top line, second from the left, 4th from the left, 5th From the left,8th from the left, and last on the left.
    Bottom line, 3rd from the left, and last on the right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,298 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Take a guess that the blank next to the 5.56 NATO drill rnd is a .30 cal M1 carbine blank? And that the eight top round is a Russian Mosin Nagant 7.8 somthing or other.:confused:

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭enfield


    An m1 carbine blank is correct!!! The Mosin Nagnt 7.62 round had a rimmed case, No 8 on the top does not. Its just a tiny wee bit shorter than the Japanese Arisaka round. A clue; its used by the same Country as the m1 carbine.
    Regards.
    Tom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭enfield


    The difficult ones are the 30-30 Winchester and the 270. I thought the 30-06 would be a doddle but there you go.
    Rgerads.
    Tom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,820 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I hope you have all those licensed and the bullets, primers and cases stored in different safes in a house with a monitored alarm and ten foot razorwire fence. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭enfield


    Its like you are reading my mind......
    Regards.
    Tom


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