Polish Painters

Trick of the Tail

Could someone PM me the phone number for the Polish Painters who are advertising around the city?

Thanks

Andy.

MacGyver

http://www.polishpainters.eu/contact.php

vinny63

would you not think about hireing some local painters theres enough of them looking for work,because of all these foreigners under cutting them.look after our own thats what i say.did you try any of local painters first?.

Sully

Well the Polish are normally just as good and considerably cheaper. I can see why people pick them over Irish workers who they feel are ripping them off.

Creamy Goodness

they tuk our jewbs!

vinny63

Sully wrote: »

Well the Polish are normally just as good and considerably cheaper. I can see why people pick them over Irish workers who they feel are ripping them off.

as i said there under cutting irish tradesmen and they have no qualifications and taking what ever they ern and putting nothing back into the ecconemy.

Trick of the Tail

vinny63 wrote: »

would you not think about hireing some local painters theres enough of them looking for work,because of all these foreigners under cutting them.look after our own thats what i say.did you try any of local painters first?.

Yeah I would if any of the four I've called had bothered to call me back.

A.

Sully

vinny63 wrote: »

as i said there under cutting irish tradesmen and they have no qualifications and taking what ever they ern and putting nothing back into the ecconemy.

So all the money they earn goes straight back to Poland?

Trick of the Tail

Well they live in this country, pay Irish taxes, buy materials from local shops, buy their food here and pay their rent here.

I doubt that they have 'no qualifications' (how do you know that?).

Irish companies that take up contracts in foreign countries also send the profits home. So whats the difference?

We're all in Europe now, like it or not.

A.

vinny63

Sully wrote: »

So all the money they earn goes straight back to Poland?

what ever they spend in their little polish corner shops and of course the off licence .

Sully

alinton wrote: »

Well they live in this country, pay Irish taxes, buy materials from local shops, buy their food here and pay their rent here.

I doubt that they have 'no qualifications' (how do you know that?).

Irish companies that take up contracts in foreign countries also send the profits home. So whats the difference?

We're all in Europe now, like it or not.

A.

Agreed.

Junior

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPSMBDQ5XwU

kinkstr

vinny63 wrote: »

what ever they spend in their little polish corner shops and of course the off licence .

Dont forget lidl.

Love these threads on boards, makes me feel so warm inside when everyone stands up for our hard done by polish brothers:eek:

Aquos76

They may be undercutting the locals, but that dosent seem to stop many of the builders and painters hiring them. I had local painters in recently and they have 12 foreigners on their books. This was a well established firm and they pride themselves in the quailty of their work.

Also, just take a look on any building site at the moment and see how many foreigners are employed there. I thing that the locals have priced themselves out of the market more so than been under cut. The sooner that the majority of our local tradesmen realise that the Celtic tiger is gone the sooner people will consider them for jobs again. Just my opinion

shockwave

They may have 12 foreigners on their books but I bet you they're not being paid the going rate.

The reason locals are expensive is because Ireland is expensive, you cant live in this country if your working for feck all!!

Mossy Monk

vinny63 wrote: »

what ever they spend in their little polish corner shops and of course the off licence .

Someone has issues with the Polish. So what if people shop in the Polish shops. Are you also making the assumption that they are all alcoholics?

mike65

I can undercut the Poles by painting my own home! :pac:

Mike.

spurious

would you not think about hireing some local painters theres enough of them looking for work,because of all these foreigners under cutting them.look after our own thats what i say.did you try any of local painters first?.

alinton wrote: »

Yeah I would if any of the four I've called had bothered to call me back.

Ireland all over - good luck to the Polish guys.

brickie No 1

shockwave wrote: »

They may have 12 foreigners on their books but I bet you they're not being paid the going rate.

The reason locals are expensive is because Ireland is expensive, you cant live in this country if your working for feck all!!

agree an very true. so we all should become subies an lets make them work for us so we can get rich off there backs.

Aquos76

shockwave wrote: »

They may have 12 foreigners on their books but I bet you they're not being paid the going rate.

The reason locals are expensive is because Ireland is expensive, you cant live in this country if your working for feck all!!

That may well be the case, but you can be damn sure that the builders or painting firm that they work for are still charging top dollar to carry out whatever work is required.

So they are lining their pockets at our expense. If they are good enough for the trades to use why shouldn't Joe public use them

edmund_f

Cremo wrote: »

they tuk our jewbs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKd6kSDcaYQ

Minfadlek

shockwave wrote: »

They may have 12 foreigners on their books but I bet you they're not being paid the going rate.

As far as I know, any good tradesman is paid according to their skills and/or qualification. probably unless they're hired through an "agency" in which case the agency gets paid and passes on the "agreed rate" to the 'worker' .

Asmodean

Not this ****ing argument again. Jesus everyone should whisht up about it for a while. Some polish people are dickheads, some irish people are dickheads, some chinese people are dickheads. etc etc etc
Tis life! No one nationality is better than the other. I'm getting so sick of people bitching about foreigners. Then again I'm sick of the PC brigade that won't shut up licking their arses too!

TheFlatulator

I am as Irish as they come, even got the freckles to prove it and you know what I will give the job to the Polish guys cos the Irish people that I have hired before and a good few that have riped me off, done the barest amount of work that they get away with.. They arrive at 10 and finish at 3 and drink tea all day and give out to you when you notice the work they have done is sloppy...

The polish on the other hand show up at 7:30 work till 6 and only take 30 min of break... They are pleasant and will do the job of a master crafts man.... and you know I pay them the same as i will the Irish because in there case they deserve it....

Irish people seem to have gotten lazy in the last few year... were has our spirit gone... You know where its gone to the same place as GREED went to....

You might say they are Irish workers out there that will do it same, you what post up here were they are and I will see if they can do the same job....

Mossy Monk

TheFlatulator wrote: »

I am as Irish as they come, even got the freckles to prove it and you know what I will give the job to the Polish guys cos the Irish people that I have hired before and a good few that have riped me off, done the barest amount of work that they get away with.. They arrive at 10 and finish at 3 and drink tea all day and give out to you when you notice the work they have done is sloppy...

The polish on the other hand show up at 7:30 work till 6 and only take 30 min of break... They are pleasant and will do the job of a master crafts man.... and you know I pay them the same as i will the Irish because in there case they deserve it....

Irish people seem to have gotten lazy in the last few year... were has our spirit gone... You know where its gone to the same place as GREED went to....

You might say they are Irish workers out there that will do it same, you what post up here were they are and I will see if they can do the same job....

That sweeping generalisation makes you no better than those who say the Polish workers are useless and hear to steal Irish jobs.

TheFlatulator

Mossy Monk wrote: »

That sweeping generalisation makes you no better than those who say the Polish workers are useless and hear to steal Irish jobs.

I will argue that.... I did ask for any irish people who are descent to be posted up, so be open to arguement and debate is a generalisation then... so be it....

And seeing that defending someone is generalisation then I would like to see what you have to say on the matter...

Also I am speaking from experience from dealing with irish people so I am not generalising I recounting the crap experence I have had....

So if you can show otherwise, please do....

Sully

My parents had polish painters last year to paint their house. The house is pretty big, with several rooms to paint. They came in around 9sh and left late afternoon / early evening. The work quality was brilliant, and they were will worth the money.

vinny63

Aquos76 wrote: »

They may be undercutting the locals, but that dosent seem to stop many of the builders and painters hiring them. I had local painters in recently and they have 12 foreigners on their books. This was a well established firm and they pride themselves in the quailty of their work.

Also, just take a look on any building site at the moment and see how many foreigners are employed there. I thing that the locals have priced themselves out of the market more so than been under cut. The sooner that the majority of our local tradesmen realise that the Celtic tiger is gone the sooner people will consider them for jobs again. Just my opinion

i bet all these established building firms etc!will let go there irish workers before they leave go all the polish cheap labour.we could all work for same rates of pay as the polish.If we were prepared to share a house with three or four other familys and split the bills.

Aquos76

vinny63 wrote: »

i bet all these established building firms etc!will let go there irish workers before they leave go all the polish cheap labour.we could all work for same rates of pay as the polish.If we were prepared to share a house with three or four other familys and split the bills.

You are missing the point here, These established builders have no problems hiring foreigners to work for them, what ever the rate of pay that is been paid to them, the builders are not passing on the savings to their clients. So its a vicious circle. The builders are as guilty as they seem to be exploiting them so.

Mossy Monk

TheFlatulator wrote: »

And seeing that defending someone is generalisation then I would like to see what you have to say on the matter...

How is calling Irish people lazy defending anyone?

deisemum

A woman who's son I mind got polish painters in and they didn't turn up until 10am then left after an hour came back stayed for an hour then went again for a while came back again and left by 3pm.

Their work was only very average. The job took longer than they'd told her when she initially contacted them as they were going off elsewhere. It wasn't a case of waiting for paint to dry. She didn't get them to paint the rest of the place.

jd83

what a load of bo**ox in this thread. Hire the person who does the job the best, who cares if there from poland or ireland or mars. Whoever has good references from people who have used them before and are reliable. Being polish or irish has nothing to do with someones ability to work hard.

Sully

rory1983 wrote: »

what a load of bo**ox in this thread. Hire the person who does the job the best, who cares if there from poland or ireland or mars. Whoever has good references from people who have used them before and are reliable. Being polish or irish has nothing to do with someones ability to work hard.

Exactly. Well said.

Sully

deisemum wrote: »

A woman who's son I mind got polish painters in and they didn't turn up until 10am then left after an hour came back stayed for an hour then went again for a while came back again and left by 3pm.

Their work was only very average. The job took longer than they'd told her when she initially contacted them as they were going off elsewhere. It wasn't a case of waiting for paint to dry. She didn't get them to paint the rest of the place.

Thats an unfair statement to work.

Irish workers can be just as bad, if not worse.

trishw78

Lads seriously cop yourselves on. How many Irish men & women left this country because times were hard, in serach of work and sent some of the money they earned home to the mam and dad.

fair play to anybody who leaves the comfort and familiarity of there own country to look for work to try and better themselves and there families, whether you like it or not they are contributing to this country, even if it's a small bit. They have cars they pay road tax and insurance. They have jobs they pay income tax, so some of them know how to work the tax & benefists system and are claiming all sorts of benefits if any of us bothered to find out about the tax system we could all work the system legally as well.

If the polish are cheaper hire them, it'd still be cheaper still to do it yourself.

deisemum

Sully wrote: »

Thats an unfair statement to work.

Irish workers can be just as bad, if not worse.

What's unfair about it? I saw the work they did and it wasn't great and I do agree that there are plenty of irish who are no great shakes. I've unfortunately come across some when we gutted our house.

I didn't say anything about all polish workers, I just gave a specific example just like other posters gave specific examples about the standard of work that people have come across.

Mossy Monk

Sully wrote: »

Thats an unfair statement to work.

How is it?

Sully

Mossy Monk wrote: »

How is it?

Because deisemum is backing up the argument about polish painters being crap. The fact is, each example mentioned here is not a problem with just Polish - it happens with Irish painters to.

Its unfair to say all polish painters are crap based on a few bad experiences, and considering a lot of Irish painters have done the same thing.

There are dodgy Polish AND Irish painters. It is NOT fair to say that ALL Polish painters are dodgy, nor is it fair to imply that.

deisemum

I did not say that all polish painters are crap. I gave an example of one job that wasn't great. A lot of people posting on this thread have been praising their work, that doesn't mean they are all excellent workers. I gave one example so that there was more balance on this thread.

Whenever I get work done on my home I go for recommendations on their standard of work not on their nationality. This thread has specified polish painters. I have already stated that I have also had poor work carried out by irish tradesmen that has cost me more in the long run. I've equally had good work carried out by good irish tradesmen.

jd83

omg a guy starts a thread lookin for a number of a painter and it turns into this.

AdMMM

That's exactly what I thought. Looks more suited to AH now.

Mossy Monk

Sully wrote: »

Its unfair to say all polish painters are crap based on a few bad experiences

Have a read again and you will see that was not said. I read someone giving an example of bad work carried out by some Polish painters. Unless every single Polish painter worked on that job then you have it all so very wrong.

Sully

deisemum wrote: »

I did not say that all polish painters are crap. I gave an example of one job that wasn't great. A lot of people posting on this thread have been praising their work, that doesn't mean they are all excellent workers. I gave one example so that there was more balance on this thread.

Fair enough but the way I saw it was a lot of people were giving out about polish, and you came in and gave an example of their bad work. I honestly thought you were implying, as you never stated that not all Polish workers are bad, that they were all ****e. My bad if this is not what was intended.

Gadgie

rory1983 wrote: »

omg a guy starts a thread lookin for a number of a painter and it turns into this.

There's a lot of that going 'round lately...

Sully

Gadgie wrote: »

There's a lot of that going 'round lately...

It only takes the smallest of comment before it drags into something else!

Kintarō Hattori

Why can't we all just get along eh? What's the harm in hiring a polish painter..... none. If they come reccomended and do a good job at a price that you're happy with then that's fantastic. As has been pointed out already, hire whoever is best for the job irrespective of their nationality.

We're all human after all. I hope we can stand together and put social and racial issues behind us when the lizzard people come.

teetotaller

Another long story about Ireland VS Poland.....

I think that author of this thread should ask - can somebody reccomend good painter ?

I think that nationality has nothing to do with job quality.

What would be most important for me is job quality and price.

If u ask Irish company to do the job - they have to pay money to managers, office support, director, for car van building etc etc.

If u pay directly to painter - u pay less, but painter working on his own gets the same money as an employee.

My mechanic is Irish - I know few polish people who could repair and do service on my car cheaper - but this mechanic was reccomended to me and I know that he is honest ond he knows what he is doing so - should I as Polish person give money to Polish mechanic ????

somebody wrote that we took your jobs - I'm pretty sure that if u would be good with networking stuff - I wouldn't work on your position now

same story with painters, window cleaners , electricians and builders - If u have good cv and references it is not possible that u can loose your job.
other thing about complaining people is fact that usually they never worked before and are taking SW benefits......

hellfireie

heres a few reasons the poles are cheaper

1. they get rent allowance of the irish state which the poles pnly pay 10% of the rent. thats a fact

2. if they work for 2 or more years and are let go from there jobs they can get medical card for themselfs and theres kids . so free trips to the doctors and hospitals at our expience plus they are working under the radar . i know many of them with this , so dont give me any crap saying irish are at this too.

3. what ever come back you might have from an irish tradesman you sure to god dont have any comeback from someone just passing through this great country of ours .

wise up here guys when the **** hits the fan in ireland they will have there irish paid for houses back home and we'll be the one paying for it in the long run . we're a small country 4 million people and the powers that be let this over priced damp little country get this way


they work cheaper because they can afford to work cheaper!! us irish are taxed to our balls , im sure you all can agree with me there !!
just think twice about it is all im say

AdMMM

That's one of the most uninformed and false posts I've seen here in a long time. While it's far too early in the morning for me to go chase you up on your "facts", I'm sure someone else will be only too glad to clarify the situation for you.

Roen

Good God, I heard they smoke in bed too!

KingLoser

Dey Tuk Arr Jaaaaaaabss!