Sully wrote: » Well the Polish are normally just as good and considerably cheaper. I can see why people pick them over Irish workers who they feel are ripping them off.
vinny63 wrote: » would you not think about hireing some local painters theres enough of them looking for work,because of all these foreigners under cutting them.look after our own thats what i say.did you try any of local painters first?.
vinny63 wrote: » as i said there under cutting irish tradesmen and they have no qualifications and taking what ever they ern and putting nothing back into the ecconemy.
Sully wrote: » So all the money they earn goes straight back to Poland?
alinton wrote: » Well they live in this country, pay Irish taxes, buy materials from local shops, buy their food here and pay their rent here. I doubt that they have 'no qualifications' (how do you know that?). Irish companies that take up contracts in foreign countries also send the profits home. So whats the difference? We're all in Europe now, like it or not. A.
vinny63 wrote: » what ever they spend in their little polish corner shops and of course the off licence .
would you not think about hireing some local painters theres enough of them looking for work,because of all these foreigners under cutting them.look after our own thats what i say.did you try any of local painters first?.
alinton wrote: » Yeah I would if any of the four I've called had bothered to call me back.
shockwave wrote: » They may have 12 foreigners on their books but I bet you they're not being paid the going rate. The reason locals are expensive is because Ireland is expensive, you cant live in this country if your working for feck all!!
Cremo wrote: » they tuk our jewbs!
shockwave wrote: » They may have 12 foreigners on their books but I bet you they're not being paid the going rate.
TheFlatulator wrote: » I am as Irish as they come, even got the freckles to prove it and you know what I will give the job to the Polish guys cos the Irish people that I have hired before and a good few that have riped me off, done the barest amount of work that they get away with.. They arrive at 10 and finish at 3 and drink tea all day and give out to you when you notice the work they have done is sloppy... The polish on the other hand show up at 7:30 work till 6 and only take 30 min of break... They are pleasant and will do the job of a master crafts man.... and you know I pay them the same as i will the Irish because in there case they deserve it.... Irish people seem to have gotten lazy in the last few year... were has our spirit gone... You know where its gone to the same place as GREED went to.... You might say they are Irish workers out there that will do it same, you what post up here were they are and I will see if they can do the same job....
Mossy Monk wrote: » That sweeping generalisation makes you no better than those who say the Polish workers are useless and hear to steal Irish jobs.
Aquos76 wrote: » They may be undercutting the locals, but that dosent seem to stop many of the builders and painters hiring them. I had local painters in recently and they have 12 foreigners on their books. This was a well established firm and they pride themselves in the quailty of their work. Also, just take a look on any building site at the moment and see how many foreigners are employed there. I thing that the locals have priced themselves out of the market more so than been under cut. The sooner that the majority of our local tradesmen realise that the Celtic tiger is gone the sooner people will consider them for jobs again. Just my opinion
vinny63 wrote: » i bet all these established building firms etc!will let go there irish workers before they leave go all the polish cheap labour.we could all work for same rates of pay as the polish.If we were prepared to share a house with three or four other familys and split the bills.
TheFlatulator wrote: » And seeing that defending someone is generalisation then I would like to see what you have to say on the matter...