[PR] Eflow.ie - information on M50 tolling regime

aheno

Deleted User wrote: »

But 2.50 is 25% higher than 2.00 :rolleyes:

Yeah? So?

2.50 is 25% more than 2.00
2.00 is 20% less than 2.50

they are totally different things.
you really want to get this straight in your head before the next time your boss starts talking about a salary raise.

..and for the cheap seats, 25% less than 2.50 is 1.875

aheno

aheno wrote: »

Yeah? So?

2.50 is 25% more than 2.00
2.00 is 20% less than 2.50

they are totally different things.
you really want to get this straight in your head before the next time your boss starts talking about a salary raise.

..and for the cheap seats, 25% less than 2.50 is 1.875

A bit pedantic, so you are...

What I was intending to refer to was the fact that the advert is incorrect as you have pointed out, that the 25% relates to an increase of 50c over €2 rather than a decrease of 50c from €2.50.

The advert should state that the camera option is 25% more than the prepay to be correct.

Smart arse answers will not win you any friends here :mad:

hilaryb

i have read these posts with interest. personally i hate the idea of gettign a tag. i dont want any more bills and i dont use the m50 that often. So being the pain in the arse that i am i did my research.

YOU DONT NEED TO GET A TAG.

you can pay as you go on the WEB, on the phone or you can pay cash in loads of shops. The shops are the ones with the Payzone sign where you top up the mobile.

Thats the one for me. sickened to be ripped off the extra few cent, but i have no intention of getting a tag. NO WAY.

aheno

Deleted User wrote: »

A bit pedantic, so you are...

What I was intending to refer to was the fact that the advert is incorrect as you have pointed out, that the 25% relates to an increase of 50c over €2 rather than a decrease of 50c from €2.50.

The advert should state that the camera option is 25% more than the prepay to be correct.

Smart arse answers will not win you any friends here :mad:

Apologies if you thought my answer was smart arsed, but i dont take kindly to people contradicting what i have said and "rolling their eyes" implying that i have got it wrong. Not very well elaborated answers probably wont win me any friends either.

I dont think its pedantic to point out that they have got it wrong. If you see a sign on a shop window proclaiming 25% off, but when you go in they say "its really only 20%, we just said 25% to get you in the door", i dont think you would be too happy.
If someone is putting themselves forward to take your money for what some would see as a day to day utility, i think its only right to expect that they get all of their business in order and not be casual or slack about the details. In any other walk of life customers would walk.

aheno

aheno wrote: »

Apologies if you thought my answer was smart arsed, but i dont take kindly to people contradicting what i have said and "rolling their eyes" implying that i have got it wrong. Not very well elaborated answers probably wont win me any friends either.

I was rolling eyes at the website not your comments, it (my reply) was not as well written as it should have been.

mobpd

Deleted User wrote: »

The advert should state that the camera option is 25% more than the prepay to be correct.

I agree with you that they have the wrong wording on the website - I have posted a complaint to the advertising standards .....

Capt'n Midnight

I had thought the gov't had bought out the bridge ??

we the tax payer pay 100's of million for the bridge
and we pay for the tolling system 113 m or so
and we pay for the tolls

and still we have to pay private companies a sizable chunk of the toll :mad:

Let's not forget that NRA had a sliding scale of the toll and at current traffic volumes the gov't wad getting the lions share of each extra car


This is just a stealth tax. What was the point in buying out NRA if you are just going to have another private company taking up to 25% of the toll ( more if you pay late ).

L1011

NTR I presume you mean there Capt'n?

AlekSmart

I`m with Hilaryb on this one .....for occasional users simply stick with Cash over the counter and let this gang of borderline criminals simply wait for their extortionate Fee.

This entire stunt simply HAS to be one of the greatest stitch-ups of the poor unrepresented/misrepresented public ever attempted in Ireland and makes me wonder if we were a bit hasty in rebelling against the house of Windsor !

This stunt is being portrayed as some form of munificent favour which the NRA and the Government is engaging in to lighten the burden on the ordinary motorist,whilst in fact it is little more than a VERY nice little financial arrangement to GREATLY benefit a collection of new revenue collecting agencies,each of which will walk away with considerable profits to be invested in other juristictions.

There are enough outstanding and unanswered questions about the entire M50/WestLink to merit a Tribunal of its own.

Very few appear to make the point that this entire sorry mess is due to what amounts to Professional Negligence on the part of a variety of Professions from Planners,to Engineers of various hue`s.

We are told that the traffic flow increase caught all of these people out...convienently forgetting that the basic function of a Planners is to PLAN and that includes delving deep into trends and hidden indicators which the NRA/NTR in concert with the Lawlor/Burke/Redmond wing surely did NOT do.

Of course its always possible that this "Evil Alliance" actually did get it right....from THEIR perspective and that can surely be verified by the remarkably healthy state of National Toll Roads finances. :mad:

bazzer

If NTR think they can screw me out of even more money, they can kiss my ass. I'm never using that damn bridge again. :mad:

bazzer

bazzer wrote: »

If NTR think they can screw me out of even more money, they can kiss my ass. I'm never using that damn bridge again. :mad:

Plan "B" ?

I won't have any realistic alternative.

Capt'n Midnight

MYOB wrote:

NTR I presume you mean there Capt'n?

yeah

daymobrew

Deleted User wrote: »

The advert should state that the camera option is 25% more than the prepay to be correct.

I've reported this to the NRA. They knew about it and have it on a (big) list of complaints they have for the web developer. Of course it shouldn't have been made public looking as bad as it does.

faceman

maybe im stupid here, but does this render my Eazypass useless? Do i have to rent/buy a new tag?

L1011

No, it'll still work.

whosedaddy?

So for existing Eazypass, eTrip, etc tag holders nothing will change...

Also noticed that the eFlow pricing has no motorbikes... does that mean motorbikes are free from now on?

I guess the license plate reading will be done from the front - where there is none at a bike, so they might as well ignore bikes as a source of revenue.

wildsaffy

As far as I know at the moment there are no plans to charge motorbikes for using the M50 barrier free ....

faceman

wildsaffy wrote: »

As far as I know at the moment there are no plans to charge motorbikes for using the M50 barrier free ....

YAY!!!

2 toll bridges down for bikers now!

joseph brand

Why don't we just pay tolls on ALL the roads in Ireland.

Also, door charge at the hospitals, eh, any takers??

Pump up the price of food and petrol even more, and maybe laugh at us a bit more??

Sure, what can we do. Do a bit of complainin here and there, and then just get on with it, while these cronies fill their ever expanding pockets.
With their fat bellies and dirty grins.

Shame on the NTR. Fred Barry can lick my hairy brains. I'll give him 3 euro for that. :mad:

Victor

bazzer wrote: »

If NTR think they can screw me out of even more money, they can kiss my ass. I'm never using that damn bridge again. :mad:

NTR have been paid off, they won't be getting any more money.

AlekSmart

Ah Vic,a bhfic.....I`m not so sure we`ve heard the last of NTR....;)

In the rarified atmosphere of Admintrative Ireland NTR have done a spectacularly good job and along the way have become one of the most successful commercial enterprises in the State.

There are many legitimate opinions about how NTR were....hmmmm,lets say..."facilitated" along the way but that`s all in the past now and having got the loot from the West Link job it`s time to move on.

The facts speak for themselves and NTR have availed themselves of a hugely beneficial buy-out deal which is largely unprecedented in Europe if not the Universe itself and for that the company deserve every congratulation and first refusal on any further such schemes which may be in the offing.....:)

spockety

Victor wrote: »

NTR have been paid off, they won't be getting any more money.

Don't NTR own Eazypass? If so they will carry on getting plenty of money..

Mayo Exile

If there is going to be a monthly charge for the €2 tag option, the best option for occasional users of the M50 is probably the €2.50 register credit card etc option, or will there be a charge on that as well?

Victor

spockety wrote: »

Don't NTR own Eazypass? If so they will carry on getting plenty of money..

There are about 5 operators in the market. You can easily avoid NTR.

mobpd

On the eflow.ie website they still not posted up details of their own e-tag arrangements. Am interested to see what the "service / admin" fee will be with them for the priviledge of having a tag
the website says details will be posted up in May - 5 days and counting...

dinkydee

Ok so I would love some facts. Who are the 5 providers to operate the tag system and are there any comparisons on prices yet. I see parkmagic are one and are charging €30 for a tag to buy outright and then you can top up from €10 at various shops. What are the other options please?

chamar

Is there still going to be a facility to pay by cash on the day and not have to worry about bills afterwards?

Are they making more lanes as well?

L1011

chamar wrote: »

Is there still going to be a facility to pay by cash on the day and not have to worry about bills afterwards?

Are they making more lanes as well?

There'll be 4 traffic lanes each way across the bridge, no gates, so no need for 'more lanes'.

You can pay in cash in a number of shops and retailers but its going to be €3 to do so. There'll be no facilities to pay on-site.

L1011

dinkydee wrote: »

Ok so I would love some facts. Who are the 5 providers to operate the tag system and are there any comparisons on prices yet. I see parkmagic are one and are charging €30 for a tag to buy outright and then you can top up from €10 at various shops. What are the other options please?

Tags are mostly issued by the toll road operators:

East Link - NTR - EazyPass
M50- eFlow - eFlow
M1 - Northlink - MiniTag
M4 - Eurolink - Eirtag
M8 - DirectRoute - Passdirect

And by some others:

Dublin Port Tunnel - issue eTrip tags
eTrip themselves
ParkMagic tags appear to be eTrip tags (same housing) but this could just be due to being generic transponders

All tags work everywhere.

Carawaystick

the port tunnel is the M50 also.