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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭shantor


    nesf wrote: »
    Dyslexia isn't an excuse for bad spelling in formal documents though. A person with dyslexia knows they make mistakes, they should for formal stuff where there is time to do this, get someone else to check over their stuff because there will be mistakes that they can't spot in it (depends on your type of dyslexia). In informal written communication, like a quick email response to a colleague, you can't expect a dyslexics spelling to be perfect but with a formal document where there is plenty of time to do it up beforehand then it is reasonable to expect them to make the effort and do it right.

    I know a fair few intelligent people with dyslexia who take the extra steps to get around their condition (ie getting someone else to proof read or similar). It makes things more difficult for them but they don't have any choice in the matter really.

    wouldnt it be disingenuis for a dyslexic person to let on they can spell correctly in the scenario where the role required ability to spell??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    shantor wrote: »
    wouldnt it be disingenuis for a dyslexic person to let on they can spell correctly in the scenario where the role required ability to spell??

    No, it should be mentioned in the cover letter that they have dyslexia. That there are no mistakes in the cover letter or the CV just shows the person takes things seriously and works around their condition when able. A person who says they have dyslexia and has a CV full of mistakes is a person who doesn't do anything to get around their issue or tackle the problems it causes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    shantor wrote: »
    are they applying for clerical jobs?

    do they disclose that they are dyslexic on the the CV?

    ... I would be pretty annoyed if I hired a guy into a role that required ability to spell and then found out they had the big D!!
    It's obvious that the person needs to disclose their condition to a potential employer but they should do it in a professional fashion.

    You seem to be deliberately missing the point - I and other posters couldn't care less if someone has some difficulties spelling but I do take issue with someone who expects me to put time and effort into dealing with their CV when they haven't taken the time to produce an adequate submission. If someone doesn't take the time to prove that they can produce a decent document and communicate clearly it'll count against them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭shantor


    nesf wrote: »
    No, it should be mentioned in the cover letter that they have dyslexia. That there are no mistakes in the cover letter or the CV just shows the person takes things seriously and works around their condition when able. A person who says they have dyslexia and has a CV full of mistakes is a person who doesn't do anything to get around their issue or tackle the problems it causes.

    ya but again a guy will get hired with spelling mistakes in his CV depending on the industry & where he can prove an ability to get whatever job it is, done, and quicker or better than the next guy

    so where a dyslexic is concerned, it doesnt matter if they have a spelling mistake in their CV depending on the desired occupation and if they are going for a job that requires spelling, they are wasting everyones time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭shantor


    You seem to be deliberately missing the point - I and other posters couldn't care less if someone has some difficulties spelling but I do take issue with someone who expects me to put time and effort into dealing with their CV when they haven't taken the time to produce an adequate submission. If someone doesn't take the time to prove that they can produce a decent document and communicate clearly it'll count against them.

    thats funny & ironic.. the subject is way of topic from OP & you accuse me of missing the point

    cheers :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    shantor wrote: »
    ya but again a guy will get hired with spelling mistakes in his CV depending on the industry & where he can prove an ability to get whatever job it is, done, and quicker or better than the next guy

    so where a dyslexic is concerned, it doesnt matter if they have a spelling mistake in their CV depending on the desired occupation and if they are going for a job that requires spelling, they are wasting everyones time

    I disagree. A dyslexic who makes the effort to do their CV properly is a person who makes the effort to do a job right. This is an admirable trait in a person in any profession (ok, maybe not the civil service :p). My point isn't that you won't get hired if there are spelling mistakes on your CV but that it shows and is a positive thing when a person takes a bit more care and does the job right and hands up a well polished CV. It stands out even more when you work in an industry where this isn't the norm. I know people who regularly look over CV's hiring for manual positions and they always note when someone has made more of an effort to get things right. They won't hire an inexperienced guy over an experienced guy because of spelling but they do prefer to hire people who are diligent about spelling and similar because it tends (not always, just tends) to indicate a person who takes tasks more seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    shantor wrote: »
    thats funny & ironic.. the subject is way of topic from OP & you accuse me of missing the point

    Would you like me to split the posts off into a separate thread?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    nesf wrote: »
    I disagree. A dyslexic who makes the effort to do their CV properly is a person who makes the effort to do a job right. This is an admirable trait in a person in any profession (ok, maybe not the civil service :p). My point isn't that you won't get hired if there are spelling mistakes on your CV but that it shows and is a positive thing when a person takes a bit more care and does the job right and hands up a well polished CV. It stands out even more when you work in an industry where this isn't the norm. I know people who regularly look over CV's hiring for manual positions and they always note when someone has made more of an effort to get things right. They won't hire an inexperienced guy over an experienced guy because of spelling but they do prefer to hire people who are diligent about spelling and similar because it tends (not always, just tends) to indicate a person who takes tasks more seriously.

    +1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 511 ✭✭✭flash harry


    funny just saw this - was reviewing CV's for journalist role today and you would not believe them. Spelling, grammatical, punctuation, you name it the mistakes were there.

    NOW back to OP - I find that a very disheartening waste of time but believe me I will waste 10 mins tomorrow replying to all explaining why they have been unsuccessful......will these be the future posters on boards saying "my experience was perfect"???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭shantor


    nesf wrote: »
    Would you like me to split the posts off into a separate thread?

    my response there was to a different poster

    another off shoot of this arguement is a lot of jobs are awarded not on the basis of CVs so portfolios and physical examples of work count for more in such scenarios...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    shantor wrote: »
    my response there was to a different poster

    I was just being polite and offering you the option.
    shantor wrote: »
    another off shoot of this arguement is a lot of jobs are awarded not on the basis of CVs so portfolios and physical examples of work count for more in such scenarios...

    Indeed, but those jobs are the exception not the rule.


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