What a c*nt of a child

Cool_CM

Just found this of breakingnews:
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhojgbgbkfcw/
People like this deserve to be kicked repeatedly in the head and then told that because some idiot went on the rampage and made sh*t of the operating theaters that they can't be treated.
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Caoimhín

I would get all Schutzstaffel on his ass. Bail conditions? I would drag him into the strreet and shoot him in the head.

swingking

out-of-school and unemployed

Why is this allowed continue?

Sherifu

caoibhin wrote: »

I would get all Schutzstaffel on his ass. Bail conditions? I would drag him into the strreet and shoot him in the head.

Lol :pac:


There is still a problem finding places for these kids. Next year he'll be old enough for prison. \o/

Maximilian

Rabble Rabble. The kid could have mental health problems for all you know. Never mind, lets burn him anyway. The mother too. Rabble Rabble.

astrofool

I always think the Red Dwarf justice zone was the best. Set something on fire, and you go on fire, if you steal something, something of yours goes missing.

I wonder if anyone died as a result of his thievery?

Dragan

Maximilian wrote: »

Rabble Rabble. The kid could have mental health problems for all you know. Never mind, lets burn him anyway. The mother too. Rabble Rabble.

If the kid has the kind of mental health problems that involve him ransacking OR and possibly delaying vital surgeries then i don't think he should be allowed on the streets anyway.

skyhighflyer

Maximilian wrote: »

Rabble Rabble. The kid could have mental health problems for all you know. Never mind, lets burn him anyway. The mother too. Rabble Rabble.

Or he might have been possessed by demons, suffering from automatism, chased by wild dogs or pretty much anything else that isn't specifically mentioned in the article. :rolleyes:

What is mentioned in the article is that he was pissed out of his head. That might possibly be the reason. Mother seems like a decent skin though; looks as if she needs to be protected from him just as much as anyone else.

r3nu4l

Dragan wrote: »

If the kid has the kind of mental health problems that involve him ransacking OR and possibly delaying vital surgeries then i don't think he should be allowed on the streets anyway.

No, you're right, he shouldn't be but our Goverrnment should be dealing with him adequately and making sure he's getting whatever treatment/medication he needs. If he has to be confined to a mental health facility for that time then so be it. If he has mental health problems then jail is not the place for him.

Caoimhín

Maximilian wrote: »

Rabble Rabble. The kid could have mental health problems for all you know. Never mind, lets burn him anyway. The mother too. Rabble Rabble.

Exactly, all the more reasons to drag him into the street and shoot him in the head. Stops these vermin breeding.

Cool_CM

Maximilian wrote: »

Rabble Rabble. The kid could have mental health problems for all you know. Never mind, lets burn him anyway. The mother too. Rabble Rabble.

I don't have much in depth legal knowledge, but I'm going to assume from the forum you moderate that you do.
If he did have mental health issues, under 18 and somebody whose mother has freely admitted she can't cope with then shouldn't the court have not given bail and had him put into temporary care.
The above may be all speculation, but facts remain facts, somebody who puts 4 operating theaters out of use should not be allowed to walk the streets regardless.

Degsy

Pity the little prick didnt take some of the "potentially lethal" drugs he had stolen.Shoot the little prick in the head,he's nothing but evil.

Caoimhín

Degsy wrote: »

Pity the little prick didnt take some of the "potentially lethal" drugs he had stolen.Shoot the little prick in the head,he's nothing but evil.

I like your thinking. Can we extend this to the scumbags in Limerick?
If the bleeding hearts would just give us one week and a few thousand rounds we could sort this.

jason&arthur

i have a new hero

m83

meh.. this barely seems thread worthy to me let alone shocking. then again, i am a cnut.

Stark

It's nothing to do with mental health issues, it's because we didn't give him enough growing up. Let's shoot him anyway though, then we can be the bad guys and someone can complain that the State failed us growing up. It's win win \o/

Degsy

caoibhin wrote: »

I like your thinking. Can we extend this to the scumbags in Limerick?
If the bleeding hearts would just give us one week and a few thousand rounds we could sort this.

There's no point trying to rehabilitate these bastards,there's nothing that can be done with them.All that happens is they spend thier lives drifting between prison and care and commiting crimes when they're out,they're costing the taxpayer a fortune too.Social workers and bleeding heart liberals should wake up and smell the Stonehouse,some people just arent fit to live.

AckwelFoley

i'd leave him with Michael Jackson for the night... or 2 nights if hes a real tough nut

Maximilian

In retrospect, perhaps he was in a race against time to clear his name of a crime he didn't commit.

I just the love the Burn the Witch replies these kinds of threads get, they crack me up. Don't get me wrong I despise knackers but so many of the Daily Mail Reader viewpoints you read around here are ultimately just dumb. It is AH I suppose. Next thread that comes around I might just join the rabble.

Sangre

You're only realising now that AH is the tabloid section of boards.ie?

fúcking immigrant knacker, dole taking, job stealing, caravan living niggas!

lennox1

Why is it that it always seems to be the mother accompanying the offspring to court? Where are the men:rolleyes: who have impregnated these women with such troublemaking wasters?

Agamemnon

snyper wrote: »

i'd leave him with Michael Jackson for the night... or 2 nights if hes a real tough nut

The scumbag in question is 17, Sicko Jacko wouldn't be interested.

tbh

the thing with a person like this - and I'm not defending his actions - is that really he's our collective child. Lets say that this kid was born a bad 'un - he could have been straightened out. No-one, and particularly not a child - is bad beyond redemption - in my eyes anyway. If school didn't suit him, he could have learned a trade, or joined the army or something, to give him a bit of focus and, basically, something to lose by going on drugs, or on the rob or whatever.

I know that the VAST majority of people from his background turn out fine, so his upbringing isn't an excuse, but you have to admit, it's probably a reason.

His mother might be a scummer, or she could just be from the same kind of chaotic backgound herself, and just not have the skills to turn him off the path he was on. I think we all know at least one willful child who has their parents in submission, we all know it happens. Maybe the scale of potential badness that he was exposed to is greater than it would be for a middle-class kid, so that's why the fall is further.

Either way.

If someone had intervened earlier in this kids life, maybe he wouldn't have wasted it. He's pretty much painted himself into a corner for the rest of his life, and possibly it all stemmed from one or two bad choices he made when he was 15 or something, and who hasn't done that?

Again, I'm not defending what he did, or painting him as a victim. It just seems to me that in this country, it's easier to punish (and badly, at that), than it is to rehabilitate. I'm a bit ashamed at that.

Dudess

Maximilian wrote: »

I just the love the Burn the Witch replies these kinds of threads get, they crack me up. Don't get me wrong I despise knackers but so many of the Daily Mail Reader viewpoints you read around here are ultimately just dumb. It is AH I suppose. Next thread that comes around I might just join the rabble.

+1. The thank you function seems to be disabled on After Hours - probably in order to avoid the inevitable oneupmanship and gloating.

I despise scumbags too, yet if I say "no, violence isn't the answer" I'm a "bleeding heart" or the really insulting ones "PC" and "a liberal". By the way I know I'm a liberal - that doesn't insult me. It reminds me of a John Barnes interview I saw in which he said "Why do people call me a 'black bastard'? I'm more than well aware of the fact that I'm black. You're not insulting me if you call me black..."
What I'm not is a bleeding heart - a liberal can be moderate. Not all liberals are bleeding hearts. Learn to differentiate...
Anyway, on topic, the guy in this story is an absolute little bastard. Is he responsible for what he did? Of course he is. Is his crap life growing up an excuse? No it isn't. Look at all his peers who don't turn out like that. Should he be punished with state-sponsored violence? Absolutely not.

Caoimhín

Dudess wrote: »

+1.

Should he be punished with state-sponsored violence? Absolutely not.

Is there ever a time for state-sponsored violence, and presumably you mean against its own citizens? If so then at what point does society draw the line in the sand? The point is that the only thing these low life's understand IS violence.

why the hell was he in the children's court?

17+ = district?

Karl Hungus

caoibhin wrote: »

The point is that the only thing these low life's understand IS violence.

I would disagree with this. I believe public humiliation would be an effective deterent to crime. Being locked up is seemingly honourific, but make someone look like a complete eejit infront of their friends, they'd lose a lot of respect.

Caoimhín

Karl Hungus wrote: »

I would disagree with this. I believe public humiliation would be an effective deterent to crime. Being locked up is seemingly honourific, but make someone look like a complete eejit infront of their friends, they'd lose a lot of respect.

Fairnuff.
Bullit is cheaper though. Maybe we could round them up and send them to a camp somewhere. For a shower....

Melion

lennox1 wrote: »

Why is it that it always seems to be the mother accompanying the offspring to court? Where are the men:rolleyes: who have impregnated these women with such troublemaking wasters?

Id imagine they werent around after the one night of drunken passion. And children arent born wasters, blame the upbringing and the parent(s). She said that "he comes and goes whenever he pleases" "He cant be controlled", he's 17 FFS. Slap the little shít and make sure he doesnt leave the house, its not hard.

Stark

At 17 he's old enough to slap her back.

Grid.

Karl Hungus wrote: »

I would disagree with this. I believe public humiliation would be an effective deterent to crime. Being locked up is seemingly honourific, but make someone look like a complete eejit infront of their friends, they'd lose a lot of respect.

I see nothing wrong with that!;)

AARRRGH

skyhighflyer wrote: »

Mother seems like a decent skin though; looks as if she needs to be protected from him just as much as anyone else.

I disagree. For your child to grow up to be a total scumbag, you have to have been a pretty ****ty parent.

Yes, he's responsible for his actions, but no doubt he had a ****ed up childhood.

Karl Hungus

dublindude wrote: »

I disagree. For your child to grow up to be a total scumbag, you have to have been a pretty ****ty parent.

Don't agree with that tbh, a child can have a perfectly good upbringing, but fall in with a bad crowd at school for example. Seen it happen myself with a few people I used to know when I was a youngin'.

Pub07

Agamemnon wrote: »

The scumbag in question is 17, Sicko Jacko wouldn't be interested.

He would if you put a school uniform on him.

Mimikyu

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Cool_CM

Solitaryman666 wrote: »

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They already have, it's called Cobh.

Cianos

What people don't seem to realise is that people like this 17 year old do not hold the same frame of thinking that they do. You might be sitting in your semi-d with your own set of tendered principles along with your Nazi-esque attitude towards those who aren't like you, but there are others who have led a life that is vastly different to yours.

You cannot judge other people based on the life that you have lead. The 'normal' life you may have experienced is worlds apart from what someone who has had the misfortune of a violent/uncaring/poverty-stricken/isolated/prejudiced upbringing.

Of course some people can go through a horrible childhood and still come out the other end as upstanding citizens. But for a lot of people, they may not have the strength to hold themselves up against it. And thus they fall in with repeating the same things they know best, and taking their anger out on other people.

So when you are saying they should all be taken to an island and shot or whatever Nazi type mumblings you're going on with, remember that you're not talking about people who have lead a similar life to you. Just try and imagine the violence and dis functionality these children have to deal with daily and you may understand their position more clearly.

Red Hand

Karl Hungus wrote: »

I would disagree with this. I believe public humiliation would be an effective deterent to crime. Being locked up is seemingly honourific, but make someone look like a complete eejit infront of their friends, they'd lose a lot of respect.

Bring back the stocks.

Cool_CM

Cianos wrote: »

What people don't seem to realise is that people like this 17 year old do not hold the same frame of thinking that they do.

Which is exactly the problem, ie. the absence of a basic sense of right and wrong.

Cianos wrote: »

You cannot judge other people based on the life that you have lead. The 'normal' life you may have experienced is worlds apart from what someone who has had the misfortune of a violent/uncaring/poverty-stricken/isolated/prejudiced upbringing.

I'm not judging him based on the life I have lead, I'm judging him on his blatant disregard for both the law and other people in general.

Cianos wrote: »

Of course some people can go through a horrible childhood and still come out the other end as upstanding citizens. But for a lot of people, they may not have the strength to hold themselves up against it. And thus they fall in with repeating the same things they know best, and taking their anger out on other people.

Try explaining that to the "other people" they take out their anger on. They are a danger to society and should be rehabilitated, not necessarily in prison where they are going to mix with more of the same and come out worse. For example this child who

had pleaded guilty to trespassing, burglary, criminal damage and Public Order Act charges committed over the last two years.

should have clearly been put into care ages ago, especially seeing as his mother has freely admitted she has no control over him.

Cianos wrote: »

So when you are saying they should all be taken to an island and shot or whatever Nazi type mumblings you're going on with, remember that you're not talking about people who have lead a similar life to you. Just try and imagine the violence and dis functionality these children have to deal with daily and you may understand their position more clearly.

No, instead they should be put into the situation where they too need to avail of the facilities that they have taken away from others but they can't because somebody broke in and vandalised them and see how they like it.

Cianos

Cool_CM wrote: »

Which is exactly the problem, ie. the absence of a basic sense of right and wrong.

And why dyou think he lacks that sense of right and wrong?

I'm not judging him based on the life I have lead, I'm judging him on his blatant disregard for both the law and other people in general.

You're missing my point. The fact that his life has been very different to a 'normal' upbringing means that his regard for the law and other people is going to be twisted. If a child is beaten daily, what use is it to tell him that it is wrong to hit people? What sense will that make to him after years of daily violence? You and I know that you shouldn't hit people, but what we know and what he knows are very different.

Try explaining that to the "other people" they take out their anger on. They are a danger to society and should be rehabilitated, not necessarily in prison where they are going to mix with more of the same and come out worse.

I agree. Of course they are a danger to society and other people, and efforts should be made towards their rehabilitation, but more importantly I think efforts should be made towards minimising the frequency of cases like these. Prevention being better than cure.

No, instead they should be put into the situation where they too need to avail of the facilities that they have taken away from others but they can't because somebody broke in and vandalised them and see how they like it.

Right, so on one hand you're saying that the child should have been taken in and rehabilitated, and then you say that because of one night of drug-induced recklessness he should be beaten to a point where he has to be hospitalised so as he can be shown first hand how hospitals are a good thing?

And I suppose you'd volunteer for doling out the lashes of the whip yourself to a 17 year old fcked up child?

Look through this thread. Soo many of those stories are in a way close to what the guy in OP did...dyou also think the people in those stories should be beaten to a point of hospitalisation because of a night of drunken stupidity?

Mahatma coat

should have been dragged in to the hospital by the scruff of the neck and made clean it all up when they caught him.


Then shot in the head.

Wreck

The court was told that when arrested the teenager had no memory of what he had done due to being heavily intoxicated.

caoibhin wrote: »

Woke up in a police cell in Istanbul with 20 Turks laughing at me saying I was crazy. Dont know what I did, cops just laughed at me and let me go..

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055269016

caoibhin wrote: »

Exactly, all the more reasons to drag him into the street and shoot him in the head. Stops these vermin breeding.

If only the Turks had the same attitude I wouldn't have had to read your ill-informed, reactionary and hypocritical opinions.

tbh

lol, played.

Sherifu

Nicely done Wreck.

kev_s88

astrofool wrote: »

I always think the Red Dwarf justice zone was the best. Set something on fire, and you go on fire, if you steal something, something of yours goes missing.

I wonder if anyone died as a result of his thievery?

im pretty sure everyone was alrite.i had only jsut started working in the Mater when it happened.made me want to rethink my position in there

Mr. Presentable

r3nu4l wrote: »

No, you're right, he shouldn't be but our Goverrnment should be dealing with him adequately and making sure he's getting whatever treatment/medication he needs. If he has to be confined to a mental health facility for that time then so be it. If he has mental health problems then jail is not the place for him.

Funny how every scumbag, thief and junkie in "sick" and should be pitied and coddled. People have to start being responsible for their actions. Society is not to blame for everything - in fact, most of these people make no contribution to society, as a life choice, and regard handouts as their heritage.

Oh, I am poor and uneducated. Oh, my Da was an alco, oh poor me, I have to live in an area of high unemployment. Here's the news: I will happily help you if you make an effort yourself, but if you are a scrounging leech then f**k off.

If that youth is old enough to get the dole he's old enough to do time. Prison won't help him, but at least he'll be unable to hurt innocent hardworking people while he's there.

Dudess

Cool_CM wrote: »

They already have, it's called Cobh.

LOL Brilliant! Considering I've heard scumbags from Youghal complain about how scummy Cobh is, your point is clearly correct!

Handsome Bob

caoibhin wrote: »

I like your thinking. Can we extend this to the scumbags in Limerick?
If the bleeding hearts would just give us one week and a few thousand rounds we could sort this.

Charming. Social cleansing eh?

As far as I'm concerned there are 2 problems in terms of violence/ crime in our society;

• Not enough fear is beheld by the criminals in being punished by our legal system and
• People like you who seem to think the only solution to this problem is by obliteration and sterilisation. I'll be a 'bleeding heart' anyday of the week over harbouring nazi-like ideals.

tbh

don't worry, caoibhin has been exposed as a complete and utter hypocrite (see above). Treat his/her posts with the respect they deserve

Handsome Bob

tbh wrote: »

don't worry, caoibhin has been exposed as a complete and utter hypocrite (see above). Treat his/her posts with the respect they deserve

Damn, kudos to Wreck for keeping a sharp eye out for discrepancies through different threads!:eek::D

Dudess

Yeah, posting "I tell ya what I'd do: I'd <insert various hideous punishments here> before dousing him in petrol and releasing a pack of starving rottweilers on his ass" and similar type comments is just profoundly boring, predictable and unconstructive.
It also makes me worry a bit the way people are able to dream up such horrible tortures.