Pulse recording college

Hoover

Hi has anyone taken a course at pulse recording college, the course i'm interested is a full time advanced diploma over 2 years in music tech and sound engineering see here http://pulserecording.com/college/c1.asp as you can see it quite expensive, just wondering how this course compares to the music tech courses available at bray or ballyfermot higher education centres or with fas, and what might the job prospects be after completion of either course.:)

jtsuited

Hoover wrote: »

and what might the job prospects be after completion of either course.:)

realistically speaking, there are none.

PaulBrewer

Jobs are few and far between, in the music recording side, certainly.

Most Freelance engineers I know, even the well known ones, would at best make a living wage, not much more.

I worked as an Engineer for 21 years ...... though for every busy time there were lots of lean ones!

As I wander around middle age I appreciate the regular cheque of my current gig!

In many ways being an Engineer/Producer/Musician defies conventional 'logic'............... but who wants to be conventional!!?;)

Seziertisch

I think what sets them apart is that they offer official Protools qualifications, which the other places don't. Whether this makes a huge difference to your subsequent employability, I can't say. I would imagine it counts for something though, seeing as how Protools is pretty much the industry standard.

henessjon

yes i checked out pulse

the course is expensive if you consider your chances of getting employment from it are close to zero,

if you are young and absolutely dedicated to music(sound production) do it and hound RTE for a job till you get one.

what i need is a part time course close to free and at times suitable for me like 10-11pm at night I know it aint gonna happen

Seziertisch

Just out of curiousity, how many of the pro's here (either part time or full time) have Protool operator qualifications? How has this affected your employability? This seems to be the main difference between Pulse and other places.

studiorat

Seziertisch wrote: »

Just out of curiousity, how many of the pro's here (either part time or full time) have Protool operator qualifications? How has this affected your employability? This seems to be the main difference between Pulse and other places.

I don't have any qualifications. Hasn't affected my employability at all, I'm still as unemployable as ever.

Helix

was offered a place in pulse, but turned it down for stc coz the focus was far more on what i wanted there

PaulBrewer

studiorat wrote: »

I don't have any qualifications. Hasn't affected my employability at all, I'm still as unemployable as ever.

Ditto!

Sunn

henessjon wrote: »

yes i checked out pulse

the course is expensive if you consider your chances of getting employment from it are close to zero,

if you are young and absolutely dedicated to music(sound production) do it and hound RTE for a job till you get one.

what i need is a part time course close to free and at times suitable for me like 10-11pm at night I know it aint gonna happen

you won't get a job directly with RTE anymore. Best best is to try the production companies (where are all located in dublin)

Seziertisch

My question regarding the qualifications was more aimed at people relatively new to the game. Let's face it, when some of you started Protools didn't exist, nor were you competing with people with formal training seeing as there wasn't really an industry built up around training sound engineers like there is today. I don't mean that it was any easier or that there weren't other considerations, just different times.

I know that these sort of courses are only worth what you get out of them, and even then on their own they aren't going to be enough to give you your break, but nonetheless I can imagine that applying for a job in a studio with Protools, having done the Digidesign qualifications would put you at an advantage over other candidates. What say ye?

frobisher

Seziertisch wrote: »

I can imagine that applying for a job in a studio with Protools, having done the Digidesign qualifications would put you at an advantage over other candidates. What say ye?

I understand the logic behind your question. But the studio game doesn't really work like that. If you had two people going for the same job and they were both equally well positioned and one had the qualifications then maybe. But only maybe. Being a PT operator and being and engineer are 2 different things. I know in the states that people are hired for these different roles. here in Ireland obviously there are far fewer produtions that can afford one of each but it is an important distinction. That said, if getting the PT qualification increases your knowledge then that has to be a good thing, right? So why not?

If I was starting out again and really wanted to make a career in recording I'd do every good course I could afford (for knowledge, not qualifications), have a small but decent set up that I could grow over time (possibly portable then you don't have to worry about rent) and work for every band I could for free while doing those courses, learn to tune drums, devour every bit of technical knowledge as possible, offer my services to every studio in town in a polite, non-pushy but professional manner and get to know as many people as possible in the business. If you do that for 18 months you'll start to get what you want. If on top of that you want to be a producer, not just engineer, I'd dive into theory lessons and become as good a programmer as possible and be proficient on at least one insrument. Easy, eh?

PaulBrewer

Seziertisch wrote: »

My question regarding the qualifications was more aimed at people relatively new to the game. Let's face it, when some of you started Protools didn't exist, nor were you competing with people with formal training seeing as there wasn't really an industry built up around training sound engineers like there is today. I don't mean that it was any easier or that there weren't other considerations, just different times.

I know that these sort of courses are only worth what you get out of them, and even then on their own they aren't going to be enough to give you your break, but nonetheless I can imagine that applying for a job in a studio with Protools, having done the Digidesign qualifications would put you at an advantage over other candidates. What say ye?

Theoretically yes - practically maybe not.

When it comes down to it PT is easy enough to make go. Having a qualification in it is more a marketing thing more than anything. It ain't no biggie, nor is it an indication how quick you are on it - speed is vital.

There ain't no Course on the things that makes you employable i.e. musicality, imagination, enthusiasm, inter-personal skills, professionalism, experience , personal hygiene (?)

They're your goals , not a City and Guilds Cert or whatever, per se.
As Niall in Salt implied, a course isn't even getting you in the door, it's merely leaving the door ajar.

It's up to you how hard you push it.

Gel

Hi,
Just spotted this and want to add my two cents.

1. As far as getting work in sound engineering is concerned. It is not true to say that there are no jobs! Most people seem to associate the job with either working in a music recording studio or with bands. In fact most of the jobs are not strictly in these areas. Sound engineering doesn't have to be about music although it is the one we all want! Sound engineering is everywhere, TV, Radio, Multimedia, Games, Audio post, PA hire, Games, and loads of other places. Even retail..ask Paul Brewer! Getting into one of these areas can open the door to other areas and eventually you might reach the promised land!

2.What does it take to get there? Basically you need tunnel vision! ..there can be no alternative! and of course talent!

3. The guys who say you're wasting your time are often the ones who just weren't really willing to stick at it or just hadn't got the natural aptitude! That's not a critisism of them, it's just that although you might love music and think you'd make a great sound engineer doesn't mean you will. It's a very different thing to being a musician and most guys who do sound engineering courses are musicians or at least very much into music.

4. Do you need a cert(S) Yes! Why? because of the fact that they exist!
A degree in some subject doesn't always get you the job you want but it does prove that you had the go-ahead to put your head down and study. That means you're willing to work and dedicate yourself to something and that's what an employer wants more than anything. So if you couldn't be bothered to get a qualification in sound engineering and the other guy did, then the only reason to employ you is if the other guy sounds like an obnoxious over-confident f***! And believe me there's plenty of them out there!

6. Would you be better off just buying some gear. Maybe but in my experience, I've heard students say it time and time again " I been doing this wrong all along! I never really understood it until now!"

5. As you can may gather I teach this stuff and of course I'm a bit biased but I genuinely believe in what I'm doing! I like so many others wanted a career in music which then became sound and because I wanted it so much I got it with lots of hard work and study I might add!
As for your chosen course, well I obviously can't comment but there are some good and less expensive alternatives!

PaulBrewer

Interesting!

1. As far as getting work in sound engineering is concerned. It is not true to say that there are no jobs! Most people seem to associate the job with either working in a music recording studio or with bands. In fact most of the jobs are not strictly in these areas. Sound engineering doesn't have to be about music although it is the one we all want! Sound engineering is everywhere, TV, Radio, Multimedia, Games, Audio post, PA hire, Games, and loads of other places. Even retail..ask Paul Brewer! Getting into one of these areas can open the door to other areas and eventually you might reach the promised land!

Fair point , as you say there are many other, equally important and fulfilling Audio jobs - though obviously Music is the Holy Grail for most buckos I know...... and you will agree I'm sure, that the likelihood of long term employment is very slim in Music Recording?

I enjoyed my year of Retail in Music Maker a lot - I got a much better understanding of how that side works - it was also my first introduction to manufacturers directly.
As a way to pay for your education working in a Music Shop is brilliant - Dublin needs more committed retail staff especially to add value to your purchase in this Internet competitive time. Some music shops are great some are not - it's all down to staff.

2.What does it take to get there? Basically you need tunnel vision! ..there can be no alternative! and of course talent!

....and personal hygiene!

3. The guys who say you're wasting your time are often the ones who just weren't really willing to stick at it or just hadn't got the natural aptitude! That's not a critisism of them, it's just that although you might love music and think you'd make a great sound engineer doesn't mean you will. It's a very different thing to being a musician and most guys who do sound engineering courses are musicians or at least very much into music.

Agreed - the reality of the job is often far from the expectation. In fact an awful lot of musicians have no idea what an engineer does, even though they work with them every day!

4. Do you need a cert(S) Yes! Why? because of the fact that they exist!
So if you couldn't be bothered to get a qualification in sound engineering and the other guy did, then the only reason to employ you is if the other guy sounds like an obnoxious over-confident f***! And believe me there's plenty of them out there!

I remain to be convinced on this one at the moment, but I think it should be the case someday! I'm not referring to Pulse at all as I barely know anyone there, but my experience is that a lot of teachers I've come across don't know their Arse from their EQ - this is a sweeping generalization I know , but it is my experience.
Also from dealing with Recording Students in da Maker, it's them who often are obnoxious over-confident f***..... oh, and often wrong!

5. As you can may gather I teach this stuff and of course I'm a bit biased but I genuinely believe in what I'm doing! I like so many others wanted a career in music which then became sound and because I wanted it so much I got it with lots of hard work and study I might add!
As for your chosen course, well I obviously can't comment but there are some good and less expensive alternatives

I'll preface my this comment with - Pulse has a good rep, is there a long time and has good facilities, so this in no ways refers to them.

The danger with Audio Education as it stands, in my opinion, is that a lot of the time it's not good enough - either teacher wise or facility wise. Certainly a lot of the guys I've met wouldn't last 4 Bars of a song in the 'Real World' (again in my opinion) and seem spectacularly unequipped to teach a very complex subject with many, many strands.

In an ideal world students would have access to professional gear in professionally designed rooms. The importance of this is to establish what is 'Right' ... in a BBC sort of way, if you get my drift.
Once you're aware of how 'right' sounds then that is a constant in your head and is always your goal, even if it's not achievable in every situation.

A product of some sub standard courses (in my opinion, you know the drill!)
is that a new , lower quality replacement 'right' is taught.
This spills into the 'Real World' in two ways I see - One is that the students (and their parents) think they're ready for employment and are spectacularly disappointed when they find they're not.
The other is that, by sheer persistence, they end up making very average, dull records in below par facilities, but as everyone else is at it it's become the new 'normal' - hence it's rare that one hears a great sounding rock record here.... and will continue to be so until attitudes change.


To conclude - find out why a 'free' course is free. Does it have the teachers and facilities to give you, as a student, what you need to compete in a VERY competitive area ? - if so Brilliant!
If not, can you buy a course that might be a proper pain in the Bass End to pay for ... but will give you what you need? Then maybe that few grand doesn't sound expensive at all.

studiorat

The City and Guilds level 2 sound course requires 480 hours of contact time. 12 units at 40hrs each. That's why it's so expensive in the private colleges I suppose...
On top of that there are 12 assingments that are supposed to take 15 hours each. IMO some of the tasks take much longer and some less.

Bray, Ballyfermot, Coolock etc. are paid for by the VEC, the only thing the student pays for is the registration and the cost of sitting the City and Guilds exams.

The only thing that the course gives in relation to employability is it proves that the prospective employee is likely to stick around for a while if they do actually land a job.

Nothing worse for a studio to spend 6 to 9 months training somebody in and them quit after that. You'd be amazed at the amount of people who when they get a job in a studio find out they don't actually like the long hours and bad pay and would rather be working "on their own music".

PaulBrewer

You'd be amazed at the amount of people who when they get a job in a studio find out they don't actually like the long hours and bad pay and would rather be working "on their own music".

Here! I'm one of them!!

dav nagle

I would do a course if I had the money but then again my dream is to run my own studio and have guys and gals working for me, so I invested in my own setup and some private education and I am starting very small. Personally I do not want to be worried every day of my short existence if my boss is in good form or not. Thats not to say I would turn down a studio job offer but their would have to be a trust and a connection their for it to work in the first place.

I like working for myself and learning from my mistakes (i.e) not pawning my mistakes on the boss. I am the boss through thick and thin, better or worse. If I mess up its simply my fault. I like the steep learning curve I am on. However I have loads of friend who work in RTE and 4 out of 5 had to be qualified to get their well paid good jobs. They are earning tons more than I am for now..

Education is very important but so is experience. When I got work experience in Vicar St all the engineers said that college taught them fu%k all. They all said they didn't touch a desk . To me that is a rip off and them too I am sure.

If you want a well paid job and regular income a college education is highly advised, but if you are a rebel without a cause, a pipe dreamer, whatever you want to call yourself, get some good gear and get out there and make good contacts and slowly you will start to generate work. When you are so busy that you need to upgrade to a larger spec then do that too. Thats what I am doing and after 4 years and nothing but insecure feelings of doubt I am coming up with new business ideas, learning my trade and getting the odd phone call from new clients. . Hopefully this time next year (if my gamble was right) I will be making more money, ten fold.

coccla

For what it is worth I am in first year of the Sound Training Centre http://www.soundtraining.com This is €2000 cheaper than Pulse, they offer Protools 101, and a City and Guilds diploma. All this in one year. It is intense and fast moving but if you want to get in the industry; this helps you to bring you up too speed on the work load and pressure you will be put under. I know a lecture in pulse, and I have talked to many graduates of both schools, I chose STC because the STC graduates seemed more focused. Now I can tell you I didn't waste my time or money. The lectures are really friendly and approachable any time you want (within reason). If you are interested in studio work; they teach ethics and how to deal with clients, both preproduction and post-production. You will also have numerous chances to get work experience after the half way point of the year and if you get into 2nd year (top 20 students), you will have great opportunities to get a foot on the professional scene; with work in one of Ireland's best studios Grousse Lodge.
Good Luck with what ever you decide
I recommend STC but don't take my word for it, try to talk to some students or graduates in each course.
Any other course doesn't seem to give you the same array of opportunities, and lets face facts this industry requires experience.

studiorat

That's Grouse Lodge I believe;)

coccla

Thank you, for that. It is a good thing I'm not doing a english or journalisim course, I'd have no chance!!

studiorat

coccla wrote: »

Thank you, for that. It is a good thing I'm not doing a english or journalisim course, I'd have no chance!!

More about attention to detail I would have thought. Mind you it is Temple Lane...

NewNo2

Im going to do the same course in Pulse, and I decided to put in my input

Why are alot of people seemingly putting down the course in pulse? Its directly linked wiith windmill lane recording studios (cuz they own it), so you get experience in a world class recording studio.

I recorded twice in Temple Lane, w/ 2nd year trainees... never, again. They really hadnt a clue. Thats not to say all their students are like that, not at all, but, ive just had enough of their bad ones to ever go back. That , and theyre very very bad at responding to queiris and emails and the like.

Ye, jobs in the music industry may be few, its a small industry over here... but eh, hello? What ****in jobs arent few and far between at this point? Thats the reason im going to pulse, to get a proper QUALIFICATION (which does matter!!) in what I want to do, and im prepared to do any kind of sound engineering work in tv, radio, advertising an etc etc, watever i can get until I can get a job in a studio (or start my own). If Ive gotta move abroad, then I will, and I think thats a very important thing prospective sound enginering students have to think about.

NOTHINGS GOING TO FALL INTO YOUR LAP, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, as my mother says.

Finally, pulse is run by professional engineers. They arent teachers or lecturers, they are all now working sound engineers. The guy who heads the audio courses own like 7 recording studios I heard, and he directly employs past pulse students when he can / wants. And in the 2nd, they send a number of students to england for 2 weeks, last year, out of 15 students, 9 were offered full time employment. (Nine people, nine jobs)

And yes its an expensive course, but the equipment they have in all their studios, im sure the ppl here saying "qualifications mean nothing, etc etc" youve probably only read about the equipment theyve got there.

Oh, and very lastly, someone here said something about speed? In pulse they time you to see how long its takes you to input a signal to a channel nd route it here nd there, nd mix this and that and what not. (Remember, im going to be a student so, I dnt know the techy jargon yet) :P

NewNo2

coccla wrote: »

For what it is worth I am in first year of the Sound Training Centre http://www.soundtraining.com This is €2000 cheaper than Pulse, they offer Protools 101, and a City and Guilds diploma. All this in one year. It is intense and fast moving but if you want to get in the industry; .

Pulse offers City & Guilds Cert 1, Diploma 2, Fetac 5 (worthless) and Protools 101 & 110 in year 1. By the end of the 2nd year youre a fully trained Pro tools operator with Pro tools 210, 220M & 220P, and city & guilds diploma level 3. (to name but a few)

Also, just related to what I posted above. In pulse you also do sound for tv, film nd game aswell, in the diploma course. So, you do get that experience and knowledge and that will make you more employable, because you wont just be strictly "music engineer"... youll have a few brances you can , well, branch out to.

DamagedTrax

NewNo2 wrote: »

Why are alot of people seemingly putting down the course in pulse? Its directly linked wiith windmill lane recording studios (cuz they own it), so you get experience in a world class recording studio.

erm.. the thread you're replying to is over 2 years old.. windmill was only a glint in pulse's eye at that stage

NewNo2

Oh dear me... I didnt even realise. :P

Ok, so I keep my argument but, tone it down to about a 3

studiorat

Ask the instructors in Pulse what qualifications they have. :pac:

DamagedTrax

studiorat wrote: »

Ask the instructors in Pulse what qualifications they have. :pac:

their qualifications are lined up all over the walls in the building so if he's going then he doesnt need to ask. he can see for himself.

thegrove54

Was talking to someone who did this course said that there was alot of internal polotics. For the price their charging id expect more studio time than lecture time i mean you can rote learn off the entire manual on this stuff and then get to a mixing desk and just think wait what does this button do. Best to learn on the Shi ttest piece of equipment you can find and make that sound amazing that way when you get to using the good equipment you can make the good stuff sound even better.

studiorat

DamagedTrax wrote: »

their qualifications are lined up all over the walls in the building so if he's going then he doesnt need to ask. he can see for himself.

WFT? They have qualifications? Jaysus. I remember them when they were a 16 track in a basment on Harrington street.

I don't think them having or not having qualifications would make any difference to their current success tbh.

DamagedTrax

studiorat wrote: »

I don't think them having or not having qualifications would make any difference to their current success tbh.

i dont know either way. i was just pointing out that they have walls of qualifications on display for anyone to see.

DamagedTrax

thegrove54 wrote: »

Was talking to someone who did this course said that there was alot of internal polotics. For the price their charging id expect more studio time than lecture time i mean you can rote learn off the entire manual on this stuff and then get to a mixing desk and just think wait what does this button do. Best to learn on the Shi ttest piece of equipment you can find and make that sound amazing that way when you get to using the good equipment you can make the good stuff sound even better.

whoever you spoke to was talkin out their arse.

im a student there and can tell you now that we have a lot more hands on time than lecture time.

heres a run down of my typical week

monday - live sound (hands on a midas desk down in radio city)
tuesday - recording in the engine room (hands on amek rembrandt aswell as lots of outboard)
wednesday - post production in area 51 (hands on with a digi desk)
thursday - lectures all day
friday - mixing in studio 2 windmill lane (hands on with ssl 4000 g+ aswell as lots of outboard)

thats not exact but its a rough idea and as you can see unless we started going in at weekends we couldnt get any more hands on time.

we also have sessions in windmill 1 where we get to assist with major artists.

personally ive had 2 weeks with one of irelands biggest selling bands, aswell as 1 week with a top uk producer who has worked with many of my fave bands and who had his own room at olympic in london.

dumbledee

No-one seems to have mentioned about the degree course they offer...
I was thinking of doing this but was wondering if it was worth the money, it works out at nearly 9 grand a year, three year course, so 27 grand?!?!

Its alot of money to spend, is it worth it really??

PaulBrewer

dumbledee wrote: »

No-one seems to have mentioned about the degree course they offer...
I was thinking of doing this but was wondering if it was worth the money, it works out at nearly 9 grand a year, three year course, so 27 grand?!?!

Its alot of money to spend, is it worth it really??

I guess there's two ways of looking at it.

1. Perhaps a more populist view is that 'Ya could buy a whole heap of gear with 27 grand' .
I as an Equipment Supplier would be pleased with that !

2. From my observing the Pulse 'thing' in Windmill is that money buys you more than just a piece of paper.
Windmill is a very cool set up with some top level clients.
It seems to me you'll definitely get an education there - but , perhaps more importantly, you'll get experience with pros. The stuff that really counts.

Even with the amount of time I've been in the biz I take every opportunity to meet with and quiz the top guys when I can
(Cenzo Townshend in Metroplolis Studio London last week! http://cenzotownshend.com/) .

I still find I learn more in an hour chatting to them than I do in 20 on my own.

I should point out Pulse isn't a customer of mine.

DamagedTrax

also the gear arguement doesnt really apply to the degree course as its performance based with very little actual engineering involved (as opposed to the diploma which is an engineering course thru & thru).

it seems to me to be geared towards those that want to be producers/arrangers/composers in the trueist sense of the words. although im not 100% aware of the course work so if anyone else knows for sure then please correct me.

PaulBrewer

Niall - Dahlia wrote: »

How many days would 27k buy you in Windmill where you could experiment and learn hands on to your hearts content!

.

True !

But it's what you learn from guys who do it everyday that fast tracks learning.

My understanding was that a significant part of the course was sitting in on 'big' sessions as an assistant.

DamagedTrax

PaulBrewer wrote: »

My understanding was that a significant part of the course was sitting in on 'big' sessions as an assistant.

true of the diploma course. i was lucky enough to sit in with steven street for a week but im unaware of any degree students doing this. i dont think its applicable on that course.

PaulBrewer

DamagedTrax wrote: »

true of the diploma course. i was lucky enough to sit in with steven street for a week but im unaware of any degree students doing this. i dont think its applicable on that course.

I believe it's only Degree guys who are in Windmill. I'm open to correction on that though.

Either way, I thought they were a very helpful enthusiastic bunch when I was down there.

Perhaps there's a Boards Member on that course ?

DamagedTrax

nope, us diploma folk are in windmill all the time too. studio 1 for "real world" sessions and studio 2 on the SSL G+ for project mixing etc.

PaulBrewer

DamagedTrax wrote: »

nope, us diploma folk are in windmill all the time too. studio 1 for "real world" sessions and studio 2 on the SSL G+ for project mixing etc.

Cool

dumbledee

What I want to pursue is a career as a songwriter/producer, try and get songs I write cut by artists or placed in tv/film, im not really into working on other peoples albums, i just want to work from home at my little home studio...

Do you think this degree course would be a waste of time for me personally as it seems to be more geared towards working with other bands and live gigs etc..

has anyone done the protools 101, 110 courses at pulse? are they any use?

DamagedTrax

dumbledee wrote: »

Do you think this degree course would be a waste of time for me personally as it seems to be more geared towards working with other bands and live gigs etc..

has anyone done the protools 101, 110 courses at pulse? are they any use?

i think you're confused. the degree course is what you're looking for. the diploma is for the engineering end.

the protools courses are the protools courses. they follow the set curriculam from digidesign books. they shouldnt be any differant no matter where you go.

OK so from what I am reading the degree course is for working with bands, live gigs etc. and the diploma is for... what exactly? People seem to be saying different things. Also those of you who said you are doing the diploma is that the full-time or part-time? What would be the major differences between each?

studiorat

Deleted User wrote: »

OK so from what I am reading the degree course is for working with bands, live gigs etc. and the diploma is for... what exactly? People seem to be saying different things. Also those of you who said you are doing the diploma is that the full-time or part-time? What would be the major differences between each?

Both are for what ever you want them to be for I'd imagine, people do these courses for many reasons.

It only takes a certain amount of time to teach someone enough to run a little session, you can go as deep into the understanding of the process as you want but either course should give you enough to get started quite early on. The rest is just time and experience, stuff you learn on the job as it were.

I was talking to a guy yesterday who did a one year course in one of the VEC schools and he's running his own little studio and doing sound for bands around the place and doing pretty well by all accounts.

A degree will certainly help if you are looking at say the games industry or further education after that, if you want to do sound for bands I'd suggest just starting to look for bands to work with... I don't really think any bands will care if you have a degree or a diploma or whatever as long as you can do the job.

DamagedTrax

Deleted User wrote: »

OK so from what I am reading the degree course is for working with bands, live gigs etc. and the diploma is for... what exactly? People seem to be saying different things. Also those of you who said you are doing the diploma is that the full-time or part-time? What would be the major differences between each?

no offence intended but go back and re-read the thread

you seem a little mixed up.

im a student in pulse and ive already said twice which course is which.

LeBash

Hoover wrote: »

Hi has anyone taken a course at pulse recording college, the course i'm interested is a full time advanced diploma over 2 years in music tech and sound engineering see here http://pulserecording.com/college/c1.asp as you can see it quite expensive, just wondering how this course compares to the music tech courses available at bray or ballyfermot higher education centres or with fas, and what might the job prospects be after completion of either course.:)

Im just finished in bray and one of the lads teaching is out of Ballyfermot, 2 others out of Pulse.

The lads from Pulse were saying the gear was amazing, but it was a look and dont touch thing going on.

The gear in bray is basic, but you get to use the equipment. We even got plenty of time on the equipment alone at lunch time and after we finished. As for jobs, if you find one, your lucky. It is easier to start out small yourself.

DamagedTrax

LeBash wrote: »

The lads from Pulse were saying the gear was amazing, but it was a look and dont touch thing going on.

more BS.

we use gear hands on every day of the week.

who are these people and what planet do they live on?

noodle650

Would recommend pulse anytime. Tony knows exactly what hes on about, (would eb int he top 30in europe for knowledge on Protools).

heading there in september, cant wait.

there is BUCKET loads of work there for those willing to do it.

TelePaul

noodle650 wrote: »

there is BUCKET loads of work there for those willing to do it.

Interesting, this is the first time I've heard that said here. Care to elaborate?

noodle650

well im booked up with gigs until august 3rd but more is sure to come after that. Thats involving Céilís, Festivals, venue engineering, local festival gigs and gigs for various bands my friends have going. All payed of course and callbacks are almost guaranteed.

noodle650

To be honest its Recording studios that are seeing huge dips in work flow unfortunatly.

which is a pity really, as we have quite a few good ones here.