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counting calories

  • 18-02-2008 1:39pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 633 ✭✭✭


    Are Kcals the same as calories? Walnut pieces have 703 kcal/905 kj. How many calories is that?

    Per 100g they have protein 15.2/carbs 13.7 of which 2.6 sugars/fat 65.2 of which 6.1 saturates/fibre 6.7

    I am on a high protein diet and want to spreasd them on museli and/or use them as a snack but have to watch weight. Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭unreggd


    I always thought abt this too, but yeah, im sure they're the same as Calories


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 633 ✭✭✭IncredibleHulk


    I don't know if this is accurate or not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    kcal = calorie

    1000 calories = 1 Calorie, or the energy needed to increase the temperature of 1g of water by 1 °C

    For dietary purposes though, calories & kcal are interchangeable terms, and ignore the kJ part ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    There's a small calorie and a big calorie usually called a kCal. When people talk about calories expended or eaten it's always kcal.

    1 kCal = 1000 small calories.

    Calorie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 633 ✭✭✭IncredibleHulk


    g'em wrote: »
    kcal = calorie

    1000 calories = 1 Calorie, or the energy needed to increase the temperature of 1g of water by 1 °C

    For dietary purposes though, calories & kcal are interchangeable terms, and ignore the kJ part ;)
    Thanks g'em. It is a lot of calories for a bag of nuts isn't it? Suppose one could sprinkle a little on museli every day?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    g'em wrote: »

    1000 calories = 1 Calorie, or the energy needed to increase the temperature of 1g of water by 1 °C

    1 kcal = energy required to heat 1 Kg of water by 1 degree.

    1 (small) calorie = energy required to heat 1g of water by 1 degree


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Thanks g'em. It is a lot of calories for a bag of nuts isn't it? Suppose one could sprinkle a little on museli every day?
    Nuts are extremely calorie dense and a serving is usually only 6-8 nuts if they're big (e.g. brazil nuts) or 10-12 if they're medium sized (almonds, walnut halves) or 15-20 for small nuts (peanuts).
    Slow coach wrote: »
    1 kcal = energy required to heat 1 Kg of water by 1 degree.

    1 (small) calorie = energy required to heat 1g of water by 1 degree
    yeah yeah whatevs maths nerd :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Slow coach wrote: »
    1 kcal = energy required to heat 1 Kg of water by 1 degree.

    1 (small) calorie = energy required to heat 1g of water by 1 degree
    That is a good thing to point out. Calories are not calculated using humans to gauge them. Substances are considered fuels and are burned and the temperature rise of the water is measured. So if chicken is 100kcal per 100g, and oats are 300kcal per 100g, this means that in a lab if you burnt the same weight of chicken and oats, then the oats should heat the water to 3 times more of a temp rise. i.e. 15C water might get to 20C using chicken(difference of 5C or 5K for the real nerds), so you would expect a rise of 15K for the oats.

    Petrol and alcohol have high calorific values, i.e. are good fuels when burned, this does not necessarily mean a human body will get full usage out of the fuels. I imagine you will get fatter drinking 500kcal of sugar water, than 500kcal worth of petrol!

    And studies have shown alcohol does not have the impact on fat gain that its calories would suggest. And I have plenty of my own anecdotal evidence that says this is very true.

    Some US products only show kJ so a conversion factor might be needed.

    I have seen some sites talking about drinking cold water to use up calories. 1kg of water is about 1 litre. If you drank a litre then your body would have to warm it up to body temp, around 37C, so in theory it needs 37kcal to do this. So in theory for every 100litres of ice cold water you drink you would burn 3700kcal which is around 1lb of fat loss. When you are cold you shiver, this makes your body keep warm, and uses up calories to do so. Likewise obese people have more mass to keep at 37C so have a higher basal metabolism partly because of this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    An insight into rubadub's life...

    factoring_the_time.png





    The forum just wouldn't be the same without you y'know :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    g'em wrote: »
    The forum just wouldn't be the same without you y'know :D

    I still think we should set him some sort of mcguyer challenge where we give him some random bits and bobs and see what sort of fitness equipment he can make out of them


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    jsb wrote: »
    I still think we should set him some sort of mcguyer challenge where we give him some random bits and bobs and see what sort of fitness equipment he can make out of them

    I like it. rubadub, your challenge, should you wish to accept it, is to fashion a multigym from two old tyres, a 5m length of manila rope and four used biscuit tins.

    You have three hours to complete the task and no small children or kittens may be harmed in the process. Blaming the government for lack of funding and global warming for shoddy outdoor working conditions will be tolerated but not encouraged. Bonus points for inventive and most original expletives will be awarded on merit.

    Time starts....























    NOW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    g'em wrote: »
    I like it. rubadub, your challenge, should you wish to accept it, is to fashion a multigym from two old tyres, a 5m length of manila rope and four used biscuit tins.



    Time starts....


    NOW.

    That's no use g'em - that Tony Quinn guy has already beaten him to it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Scottty2Hottty


    Surely he has to be the ultimate Krypton Factor contestant.. All he needs is a dodgy haircut and a Shellsuit tracksuit (maybe he has them already) and there'd be no contest!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    WHIP IT! wrote: »
    That's no use g'em - that Tony Quinn guy has already beaten him to it!

    Dammit, you're right. That evil genius only used one tyre too, and it had holes in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    g'em wrote: »
    An insight into rubadub's life...
    :D Sad thing is I do find myself calculating calories during the day, looking at peoples lunches etc, I spot many mistakes on food products, have planned on emailing them, might get a freebie. Calorie/kJ/energy calculation is part of my job so I have got disturbingly quick at it.
    jsb wrote: »
    I still think we should set him some sort of mcguyer challenge where we give him some random bits and bobs and see what sort of fitness equipment he can make out of them
    g'em wrote: »
    I like it. rubadub, your challenge, should you wish to accept it, is to fashion a multigym from two old tyres, a 5m length of manila rope and four used biscuit tins.
    LOL. As long as they are afternoon tea tins I should be fine, the new plastic jacobs one fail at 155lb, just don't make em to last anymore.

    I am but a mere student. This guy is the master.

    assist1.jpg
    Kitchen roll ab-slings!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    In fairness, Rubadub should be cut some slack here people, we all probably do it during the day...

    Around the start of December I started properly working out in the gym and seeing actual results - rather than pissarsing around (to give it the technical term!) and seeing occasional modest results...

    Anyway, I now really like working out (as opposed to it just being a means to an end - ie, to get fitter for playing football and look better in me Jeyes Fluid!) and actually find myself looking at ways during the day in which I could do a work out if presented with just the 'equipment' in the room I', in...

    On hols recently, I could do L-Sits on the sunbeds beside the pool... dips on a two bits of railing that met at 90degrees and recently in mass (daughter's communion year, we have to go - damn catholics! :) ) instead of thinking about little baby jesus, all I could think was "Hmmm, I bet I could hang my new Elite Rings off them girders. Be perfect!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 307 ✭✭nikki 122


    Why is everyone obsessed with calories and exercise , I don't count calories and I only exercise once a week and I've been 8 stone for the past few years , my opinion is you can eat whatever you want and exercise a bit to keep fit, I can't be the only person that thinks that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    WHIP IT! wrote: »
    dips on a two bits of railing that met at 90degrees
    I had a go on some railings the other day too, good and sturdy. There are a few buildings and structures around if you just look out for things. I wouldnt mind having a go at some ropeclimbing, looks like fun.

    You see lads in playgrounds in youtube all the time, but I would not do it since a sweaty man hanging around a playground would look too dodgy!

    Point is you do not need to fork out a load of money on equipment, so there is no excuse about not being able to afford a gym membership.

    Why is everyone obsessed with calories and exercise , I don't count calories and I only exercise once a week and I've been 8 stone for the past few years , my opinion is you can eat whatever you want and exercise a bit to keep fit, I can't be the only person that thinks that!
    Well you obviously are not cheating yourself. Many are, and have no idea of their calorie intake. I am often telling people they must calculate, and weigh food- even if just for a week. It opens your eyes to calorific values of foods. Many might be wrongly presuming some foods are high/low in calories, some might be eating a food they do not really enjoy under the false presumption it is low in calories, and vice versa some might not eat food that is fine since they think it is high in calories.

    I had mates who thought you would get fat on guinness but not on coors light. A lad scoffing 3 WW meals in one sitting, another devouring go-ahead buiscuits. One poster knew a woman who thought the more lean cuisines she ate the thinner she would get. Ignorance is rife.

    I don't have to count them anymore, it is just a habit. I don't go hungry and eat & drink pretty much what and when I want. Once you have got to the weight you want then you no longer need to be on a deficit so it is easier. You are 8 stone now, if you were 10 you would need to be on a deficit to lose it, and then might have to worry about calorie intake.

    I still get shocked myself sometimes, check out the comments about lard and coconut oil (~90% saturated fat) here
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055238028


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 307 ✭✭nikki 122


    Well you obviously are not cheating yourself. Many are, and have no idea of their calorie intake. I am often telling people they must calculate, and weigh food- even if just for a week. It opens your eyes to calorific values of foods. Many might be wrongly presuming some foods are high/low in calories, some might be eating a food they do not really enjoy under the false presumption it is low in calories, and vice versa some might not eat food that is fine since they think it is high in calories.

    I had mates who thought you would get fat on guinness but not on coors light. A lad scoffing 3 WW meals in one sitting, another devouring go-ahead buiscuits. One poster knew a woman who thought the more lean cuisines she ate the thinner she would get. Ignorance is rife.

    I don't have to count them anymore, it is just a habit. I don't go hungry and eat & drink pretty much what and when I want. Once you have got to the weight you want then you no longer need to be on a deficit so it is easier. You are 8 stone now, if you were 10 you would need to be on a deficit to lose it, and then might have to worry about calorie intake.[/quote]

    You make a good point' I just think that everyone should enjoy eating when they are young, because when you get older the weights piles on. Thats all I was trying to say.


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