National Student Poker Champinships 5th April 2008 - Sponsored by Devilfish Gaming

carfax

5th April 2008, Regency Airport (4 Star) Hotel – Sponsored by Devilfish Gaming - €65 (+ €7 reg) entry with a €26,000 estimated prize-pool.

Hi all,

Devilfish Gaming (DFG) are to sponsor the N.S.P.C – 2008.

Devilfish Gaming plc is floating next week on the stock market and we will be actively promoting the devilfishpoker.com site. They are really going to shake things up in terms of value, service and action that will be offered to poker players. They’ve shown a huge amount of support for student poker here so I hope we fill this event and put together a fantastic tournament. Once the site is up and running they will be offering a number of value added tournaments for NSPC players.

This tournament is limited to 400 players, so register early to avoid disappointment.

1. Tournament Organiser: Poker Ireland.
2. Sponsors: Devilfish Gaming.com .
3. Purpose: The event is commercial and the purpose of the tournament is to continue to build a platform for college poker in Ireland through this tournament and many more.
4. Date; Saturday 5th April 2008.
5. Location; Regency Airport Hotel, Swords Road, Dublin 9.(4star)
6. Start Time; 11am sharp.
7. Registration: Email stephen@pokerireland.ie and pay at any Bank of Ireland or Permanent TSB using an assigned personal registration no. (NB; You must pre-register to obtain your registration number and to get details of the account which you must lodge to).
8. Pre-requisites; All players must register and pay before 12 noon on 4th April 2008. All players must agree to allow Poker Ireland to migrate your registration details to Devilfish Gaming (when their poker site launches over the coming months). Devilfish Gaming will then send you on some promotional material about their new site.
9. Maximum number of players: 400.
10. Tournament Type: No-Limit Texas Hold’em Freeze-Out
11. Entry Fee: €65 (+€7 Reg Fee)
12. Estimated Prize-pool: €26,000 - 100% of entry fee goes to prize-pool
13. Re-Buys None
14. Top-Ups None
15. Starting stack 8,000 in chips
16. The blind structure will be as follows;
(30 minute clock);
11:00 - 11:30 - 1. 25-50
11:30 – 12:00 - 2. 50-100
12:00 – 12:30 - 3. 75-150
12:30 – 13:00 - 4. 100-200
13:00 – 13:30 - 5. 150-300
Break 15 mins -
13:45 – 14:15 - 6. (race off 25 chips) 200-400
14:15 – 14:45 - 7. 300-600
14:45 – 15:15 - 8. 400-800
15:15 – 15:45 - 9. 500-1,000
15:45 – 16:15 - 10. 800-1,500
Break 45 mins – Dinner
17:00 – 17:30 - 11. (race off 100 chips) 1,000-2,000
17:30 – 18:00 - 12. 1,500-3,000
18:00 - 18:30 - 13. 2,000-4,000
18:30 – 19:00 - 14. 3,000-6,000
19:00 – 19:30 - 15. 4,000-8,000
Break 15 mins
19:45 – 20:15 - 16. 5,000-10,000
20:15 – 20:45 - 17. 8,000-15,000
20:45 – 21:15 - 18. 10,000-20,000
21:15 – 21:45 - 19. 15,000-30,000
21:45 – 22:15 - 20. 20,000-40,000
Break 15 mins
Play to finish
21. 30,000-60,000
22. 40,000-80,000
23. 50,000-100,000
24. 80,000-150,000
17. Standard prize-pool payout structure will be used, i.e. top 10% of players paid.
18. Fully dealer dealt with the most professional standard in Irish Poker.
19. Yes, tournament rules can be found at www.pokerireland.ie and printed rules will be in the venue on 5th April.
20. Stephen Mc Lean is tournament director.
21. Accommodation: The Regency Airport Hotel will be offering preferential rates to NSPC-2008 / Poker Ireland / DFG players and we will post them here soon. The Regency has had a mega upgrade throughout and has recently acquired 4 star status.
22. Team event details to follow very shortly in this thread.

carfax

Sorry I just want to highlight that this is a cash reg tournament....No cash on the day but you can pay anytime up to 12 noon on April 4th.

Please get the word out there for us now; stephen@pokerireland.ie

Goodluck2me

can we just give you the cash?

carfax

goodluck2me wrote: »

can we just give you the cash?

Yes indeed....Devilfish are sponsoring the event so we will need every player to fill out a reg form with email address, contact phone number and home address but other than that its a cash tournament.

We will be paying all players with cheques as they cash from the tournament to avoid having any cash on the premises.

bottom feeder

good luck with this Ste.

carfax

bottom feeder wrote: »

good luck with this Ste.

Cheers Wes, should be a good laugh.....Hope we fill the event thats all.

BigCityBanker

I cant find it in the OP - how much are Devil Fish adding to the prize money? Or are they paying the reg?

cuterob

i suppose you have to have student i.d to partake? or could a 20 year old who's taking the year off and going to college next year enter?

AdMMM

DevilFish poker are just a UB skin are they not? Hardly leading the field in terms of innovation when they've been plagued with scandal after scandal in recent times. Their software is also prehistoric and looks like something you'd expect to have seen showcased on Windows 95! Forgive me if they're launching their own network though.

I cant find it in the OP - how much are Devil Fish adding to the prize money? Or are they paying the reg?

Am wondering about that myself. We're paying a registration fee and the estimated prizepool is what it would be if you get 400 players (i.e it's not guaranteed).

While DevilFish may be happy to cover your costs for the event (happy days for you), what do the students get? A "platform for college poker in Ireland through this tournament and many more." and the odd $500GTD online tournament isn't a great incentive for students. Bear in mind that it's my experience that many students are apprehensive about handing over their contact details especially when there doesn't seem to be any great incentive.

ITT-Pat

|.Murderer.| wrote: »

DevilFish poker are just a UB skin are they not? Hardly leading the field in terms of innovation when they've been plagued with scandal after scandal in recent times. Their software is also prehistoric and looks like something you'd expect to have seen showcased on Windows 95! Forgive me if they're launching their own network though.



Am wondering about that myself. We're paying a registration fee and the estimated prizepool is what it would be if you get 400 players (i.e it's not guaranteed).

While DevilFish may be happy to cover your costs for the event (happy days for you), what do the students get? A "platform for college poker in Ireland through this tournament and many more." and the odd $500GTD online tournament isn't a great incentive for students. Bear in mind that it's my experience that many students are apprehensive about handing over their contact details especially when there doesn't seem to be any great incentive.

Devilfish covering the costs for the costs for the event is happy days for everyone!! How else would this be able to happen with just a €7 reg?? There arent many other tournaments that can offer this structure for such a small price AND actually have a chance of getting a big field!

Now i know WIT are running an excellent value tournament(which i will also be attending:D), but if NSPC is gonna get 400 runners, it will need this sponsorship from Devilfish and we should be happy its there and providing us with a low buy-in, good structured, 300+ runner event and that should be incentive enough

rayfitz

ITT-Pat wrote: »

Devilfish covering the costs for the costs for the event is happy days for everyone!! How else would this be able to happen with just a €7 reg?? There arent many other tournaments that can offer this structure for such a small price AND actually have a chance of getting a big field!

Now i know WIT are running an excellent value tournament(which i will also be attending:D), but if NSPC is gonna get 400 runners, it will need this sponsorship from Devilfish and we should be happy its there and providing us with a low buy-in, good structured, 300+ runner event and that should be incentive enough

Have to take issue with this Pat,
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055215306
NO reg, FULLY dealer dealt.
Weve put extensive time & effort into this for NO financial gain.

That said, best of luck to Stephen on this event & also WIT with theirs. Will be mustering a crew from DCU for both but in 25 days the best value tourney of the year will be taking place so hope to see ye all there.

carfax

|.Murderer.| wrote: »

DevilFish poker are just a UB skin are they not? Hardly leading the field in terms of innovation when they've been plagued with scandal after scandal in recent times. Their software is also prehistoric and looks like something you'd expect to have seen showcased on Windows 95! Forgive me if they're launching their own network though.



Am wondering about that myself. We're paying a registration fee and the estimated prizepool is what it would be if you get 400 players (i.e it's not guaranteed).

While DevilFish may be happy to cover your costs for the event (happy days for you), what do the students get? A "platform for college poker in Ireland through this tournament and many more." and the odd $500GTD online tournament isn't a great incentive for students. Bear in mind that it's my experience that many students are apprehensive about handing over their contact details especially when there doesn't seem to be any great incentive.

rayfitz wrote: »

Have to take issue with this Pat,
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055215306
NO reg, FULLY dealer dealt.
Weve put extensive time & effort into this for NO financial gain.

That said, best of luck to Stephen on this event & also WIT with theirs. Will be mustering a crew from DCU for both but in 25 days the best value tourney of the year will be taking place so hope to see ye all there.

lol, way to highjack the thread lads

Devilfish, as stated in the OP are floating next week (Feb 13th to be exact).
Devilfish are currently just a skin on Ultimate Bet but with the people that have taken over the healm (Karl H and Paul Barnes to name two) they will be guiding this ship with expert precision.

Whilst others may be copying our model for the National Student Poker Champs we are a business.....Although this event will not make us any money directly we hope that players will support us in the future by signing up to Devilfish once they launch their outstanding new site and generate a bit of revenue for us.

I wish ya'll the very best of luck in what you are doing and don't worry I will be there to promote this event (if thats ok of course) but for this thread can we just concentrate on this tournament. I know we all work very hard at promoting poker and improving the standards and options available for poker players but its not a competition to see who is the best or who can do the most for free (but by the way I could organise a 200 runner event in my sleep )

Cheers,
Stephen.
stephen@pokerireland.ie

In terms of value for money, no there is no giveaway here for the players other than the fact that we get to have a fully dealer dealt, professional tournament for a €7 reg fee. We also get 40 odd players that will walk away from this tournament with money in their pockets and for a €65 entry one player will walk away with over €6,500 (once we get the 400 players :cool:).

rayfitz

Didnt intend on hijacking your thread Stephen, merely pointing out what was on offer.
We held a national student event in 2006.
Agreed that were not in competition & you're more than welcome to attend the BSM to promote the NSPC.

Can you teach me how to do a 200 runner event in my sleep? This having to be awake to do it can be mundane at times

AdMMM

Sorry, I didn't mean to needle your event. As I mentioned in the other thread, it's a big deal for us in WIT to attend this event (kind of the reason why many signed up to us in the first place) and we'll hopefully all be attending in our droves. I was just curious more than anything because you did promise great value and perhaps it was ignorant of me to assume that just because there isn't a heap of cash added or guaranteed that there's no value (students - they expect everything to be just given to them :P).

Oh and you lied about the Regency... you said it was 5* . That's the biggest travesty of them all, you led me to believe I'd be wandering around the hotel in velvet robes with Jeeves close by my side to tend to any need that may arise. Now I'll be lucky to get a glass of chilled milk .

Theresalwaysone

|.Murderer.| wrote: »

DevilFish poker are just a UB skin are they not? Hardly leading the field in terms of innovation when they've been plagued with scandal after scandal in recent times. Their software is also prehistoric and looks like something you'd expect to have seen showcased on Windows 95! Forgive me if they're launching their own network though.



Am wondering about that myself. We're paying a registration fee and the estimated prizepool is what it would be if you get 400 players (i.e it's not guaranteed).

While DevilFish may be happy to cover your costs for the event (happy days for you), what do the students get? A "platform for college poker in Ireland through this tournament and many more." and the odd $500GTD online tournament isn't a great incentive for students. Bear in mind that it's my experience that many students are apprehensive about handing over their contact details especially when there doesn't seem to be any great incentive.

I've got to agree with this. Saying that, I will more than likely be attending anyway. Stevo if ya wanna send me some flyers and stuff for UCD its a different address to last years. Ill PM it to you.

carfax

|.Murderer.| wrote: »

Sorry, I didn't mean to needle your event. As I mentioned in the other thread, it's a big deal for us in WIT to attend this event (kind of the reason why many signed up to us in the first place) and we'll hopefully all be attending in our droves. I was just curious more than anything because you did promise great value and perhaps it was ignorant of me to assume that just because there isn't a heap of cash added or guaranteed that there's no value (students - they expect everything to be just given to them :P).

Oh and you lied about the Regency... you said it was 5* . That's the biggest travesty of them all, you led me to believe I'd be wandering around the hotel in velvet robes with Jeeves close by my side to tend to any need that may arise. Now I'll be lucky to get a glass of chilled milk .

lol, cheers mate.

carfax

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Stevo if ya wanna send me some flyers and stuff for UCD its a different address to last years. Ill PM it to you.

To coin a word/phrase type thing of the great Wayne Campbell - Excellent.

hotspur

carfax wrote: »

Although this event will not make us any money directly we hope that players will support us in the future by signing up to Devilfish once they launch their outstanding new site and generate a bit of revenue for us.

You're backing a 3 legged horse with that one I think
Also funniest gambling public flotation in years!

Phil-Dublin

ste, please correct me if i am wrong but are you seriously meeting all your costs attached to running a dealer dealt tourney in a prime location for just 7 EURO ???
or is this where the sponsor comes in?

i heard that you dont sleep, so i dont see how you could offer advice on how to do tourneys in your sleep, lol

i am doing a course on sign language (LAMH) so i am wondering if i qualify as a student ?

65 scudos for 26 grand, please say yes

ditpoker

BigCityBanker wrote: »

I cant find it in the OP - how much are Devil Fish adding to the prize money? Or are they paying the reg?

"An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response."
come on noel...

ditpoker

why is it when ste advertises this and basically says €65+€7 tournament, trying to get 400+ runners which would be amazing, and put on a HUGE event that some (by no means all) try to poke holes? even if the sponsor is just hand ste €100,000,000,000 just to be affiliated with the event its still gonna be a HUGE event at approx 10% reg fee, don't pretty much all members of this forum do that most nights of the week in poker clubs?

well done ste, i'm gonna see if can rsutle up a couple of students cards for myself and lloyd, we're doing a dimploma course in sports psychology for the larf!! should be fun!! if not i'll deal/TD the side event... i've also decided there'll be a side event!

cooker3

In fairness to Stephen. It's unfair to campare this to the DCU tournament. Stephen doesn't have the luxury of the SU giving him all money for it and a tournament run by a college society shouldn't be doing it to make money. Poker Ireland is a business first so making money is the goal afterall.

Goodluck2me

cooker3 wrote: »

Poker Ireland is a business first so making money is the goal afterall.

I thought it was for the good of Irish poker?

LuckyLloyd

goodluck2me wrote: »

I thought it was for the good of Irish poker?

Oh dear.

Goodluck2me

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Oh dear.

lol
but seriously it should be a decent event and fair play to him for running it.

dagunman

I think the reason carfax is gettin needled a fair bit is because the way he goes on about these events. He acts as if he is doin Irish poker a big favour by running these events. While this is a gr8 event, and one which is priced and market v well for students, the reason he is doin it is to make a profit for himself. So I think people would get off his back if he stopped tryin to portray himself as theSVdeP of Irish poker and just got on with runnin his business and stop tryin pretend he is doin Irish poker this wonderful service out of the goodness of his heart.

Also Bigslickpoker would do well to take note of this aswel. Runnin an event every free weeekend they get their hands on and then go on about barely covering costs.

Relax lads we understand you have to make a profit.

carfax

Guys and girls can I just point out that registration is now open.....We are taking cash registrations and expect a big demand for seats here.

If you want to guarantee your seat email me now and get yourself paid up.

If you are going to have difficulty getting to a bank you can always register with your college poker society or local poker club.....Because we do such a huge service to Irish poker I'm sure that most clubs will be happy to take registrations for us.

Many thanks,
Stephen Mc Lean
www.pokerireland.ie

Intervarsity team event details to follow shortly.

Goodluck2me

carfax wrote: »

.....Because we do such a huge service to Irish poker I'm sure that most clubs will be happy to take registrations for us.
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Well you cant be accused of not having a sense of humour!
i Lol`d!

Heisenberg.

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BigCityBanker

dagunman wrote: »

I think the reason carfax is gettin needled a fair bit is because the way he goes on about these events. He acts as if he is doin Irish poker a big favour by running these events. While this is a gr8 event, and one which is priced and market v well for students, the reason he is doin it is to make a profit for himself. So I think people would get off his back if he stopped tryin to portray himself as theSVdeP of Irish poker and just got on with runnin his business and stop tryin pretend he is doin Irish poker this wonderful service out of the goodness of his heart.

Also Bigslickpoker would do well to take note of this aswel. Runnin an event every free weeekend they get their hands on and then go on about barely covering costs.

Relax lads we understand you have to make a profit.

carfax wrote: »

Because we do such a huge service to Irish poker I'm sure that most clubs will be happy to take registrations for us.

these posts appearing one after the other make me lol.

carfax

BigCityBanker wrote: »

these posts appearing one after the other make me lol.

I thought I was losing my touch but if I made you and GoodLuck2me lol then I'm happy.

carfax

Hi all,

I'm getting lots of emails from students looking to have posters and flyers sent to them....If anyone here wants some sent just send me a quick PM.

I'm also getting asked an awful lot if this tournament is for students only....All I can say is that it is, we're not going to be checking for student cards but if all the final table ends up with an average age of 64 we might find ourselves with a bit of bad publicity on our hands.

Get registering; stephen@pokerireland.ie ......We would like to have this event fully paid up at least a week in advance (and its looking very likely that that will be the case) so that we can ensure the best possible service to players.

Oh yeah; forgot to mention we're getting loads of badges done up too, so will be sending them with the flyers too.

carfax

Ok,

I've been fairly well inundated with emails today, I had forgotten how much work was involved in this stuff

Anyone that wants a badge just send me your address

Phil-Dublin

i am a bit confused here
its called the national student poker champs
so
is the criteria as follows?:
1- players must be studying something
2- players must be able to say that they are actually studying anything, even things like electrical engineering and only doing 1 day a week for a few hours or maybe an ECDL course in the evenings, 1 day a week

or could somone specify the answer please?

i am studying how to play poker, but i am not attending a normal college, i do my self educating in the jackpot casino
do i qualify?

Goodluck2me

carfax wrote: »

I'm also getting asked an awful lot if this tournament is for students only....All I can say is that it is, we're not going to be checking for student cards .

Why not call it the mini IPO then, its either one of the other, it makes a farce of the "student" event if loads of randomers are allowed to play, extra field or not, its just not right imo.
Stick with the students and let the others play the IPO.

ditpoker

goodluck2me wrote: »

Why not call it the mini IPO then, its either one of the other, it makes a farce of the "student" event if loads of randomers are allowed to play, extra field or not, its just not right imo.
Stick with the students and let the others play the IPO.

if non students show up, have a 35+5 side game or something at 6pm! anyon eknocked out can play that too... i'll TD it!! great idea jeff, well done!

carfax

goodluck2me wrote: »

Why not call it the mini IPO then, its either one of the other, it makes a farce of the "student" event if loads of randomers are allowed to play, extra field or not, its just not right imo.
Stick with the students and let the others play the IPO.

I've played in lots of student tournaments over the years and I only ever spent about two days in a college in my life. Should I have been barred from any of these tournaments, should anyone else that was playing, who knew most of the people there as mates but happened to be learning a trade at the time instead of studying third level?...Should they have been barred Joe?, should they?:D

The whole idea (as everyone knows, I think) is that the vast majority of the field will be students and the rest will be their mates....Anyone that registers has to come through me directly and and everyone knows what the spirit of the event is.

By the way Joe are you planning on playing?, if so now would be a good time to email stephen@pokerireland.ie to register and get payments details.

carfax

Also, get a student travel visa, student travel pass in any country around Australasia.....When you apply they don't ask what you study or even look for student ID, they simply check your passport and if you are under 30 you get a student ID, is this a farce too?

cooker3

carfax wrote: »

Also, get a student travel visa, student travel pass in any country around Australasia.....When you apply they don't ask what you study or even look for student ID, they simply check your passport and if you are under 30 you get a student ID, is this a farce too?

Well yes it is. You can't point to 1 flawed system and say because it exists that makes using a similar system ok

carfax

cooker3 wrote: »

Well yes it is. You can't point to 1 flawed system and say because it exists that makes using a similar system ok

Thats not my point at all, there have been a lot of negative comments already in this thread so after this I just want to concentrate on getting everyone registered....

Here goes;

Did you find anything wrong with the student championships last year?

All we did then was go around to every college society to promote the tournament. We ended up with 300 players and I would say a max of 40 were not actually in third level education but were all young professionals (the final table were all in full time education - which is more than I can say for almost any other student tournament I have ever come across).

In 2006 I ran the student championships which had been organised by Trinity College Poker Society. There were just over 200 players and at least 40-50 had suits on and were obviously not students but were mates of students or recently graduated. It was a great tournament and everyone enjoyed it, it was self dealt so thats why I wanted to improve on it last year and again this year.

If you don't like the rules then thats fine, but as far as I am concerned we are running the National Student Poker Championships....Derek and I are the people that have to make decisions in the interest of the game and our business.

We will be promoting the tournament in the exact same way this year as in previous years (through colleges, poker clubs and on forums) and in fairness there hasn't been overwhelming support from college poker socs so far so if we were relying solely on them we would be in trouble.....Although most have been brilliant with some I can tell it is going to be like pulling teeth.....

This decision is really only based on the fact that every second email I receive reads I'm in NUIG, I want to play and so do 6 of my friends, we are travelling up to Dublin together on the bus on April 4th but one of my friends has recently dropped out of college, can he/she still play?.....Do you honestly think it will be fair to refuse that person Rob?

bohsman

carfax wrote: »

All we did then was go around to every college society to promote the tournament. We ended up with 300 players and I would say a max of 40 were not actually in third level education but were all young professionals (the final table were all in full time education - which is more than I can say for almost any other student tournament I have ever come across).

True, I was in ITT at the time, I dont think theres anything wrong with pushing this towards mainly students but letting anyone else that wants to join in play.

carfax

bohsman wrote: »

True, I was in ITT at the time, I dont think theres anything wrong with pushing this towards mainly students but letting anyone else that wants to join in play.

Damn it, ok lie uncovered 8 of the 9 final table players were students, the other was Bohsman who has never studied anything before in his life because he knows everything already .

Goodluck2me

carfax wrote: »

I've played in lots of student tournaments over the years and I only ever spent about two days in a college in my life. Should I have been barred from any of these tournaments, should anyone else that was playing, who knew most of the people there as mates but happened to be learning a trade at the time instead of studying third level?...Should they have been barred Joe?, should they?:D

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YEs they should be barred it is the STUDENT championships. My point is why not just run a tournament, if you`re letting anyone in, don`t publicise it and promote it as a student event if thats not what it is.

Should I be allowed to play the women`s event in the IO, or the Seniors event as the WSOP? NO! Its not what it was intended for, dont say its one thing and let it turn out to be something else, just becuase you can make it bigger and more money from letting others in, or you are imo conning people into thinking its a student event when it clearly isnt.

By the way Joe are you planning on playing?, if so now would be a good time to email stephen@pokerireland.ie to register and get payments details.

Yes. You have my details and i`ll be paying cash.

National Student And All the Students Mates and People Who Have Just Finished College Or Never Got Around To Starting Or Didnt Want To Championships.

NSAATSMAPWHJFCONGATSODWTC

You might need a bigger trophy.

carfax

goodluck2me wrote: »

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YEs they should be barred it is the STUDENT championships. My point is why not just run a tournament, if you`re letting anyone in, don`t publicise it and promote it as a student event if thats not what it is.

Should I be allowed to play the women`s event in the IO
Yes because you are a woman , or the Seniors event as the WSOP? NO! YES!Its not what it was intended for, dont say its one thing and let it turn out to be something else, just becuase you can make it bigger and more money from letting others inThis event costs us money to run!!!, the more players we have the more of a loss we make!!!, its the perfect business model, or you are imo conning people into thinking its a student event when it clearly isnt.Yes I like to con people as you know Joe


Yes. You have my details and i`ll be paying cash.If you want to play you should send the email as stated in the OP (you need to fill out a registration form)...And yes you will be paying cash as will every other "student" player in the tournament

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carfax

goodluck2me wrote: »

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National Student And All the Students Mates and People Who Have Just Finished College Or Never Got Around To Starting Or Didnt Want To Championships.

NSAATSMAPWHJFCONGATSODWTC

You might need a bigger trophy.

You don't have to play, ya know....Its not mandatory for all student poker players to take part (if in fact you actually are a student). But at least you seem to have gotten some of your sense of humour back.

cooker3

goodluck2me wrote: »

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YEs they should be barred it is the STUDENT championships. My point is why not just run a tournament, if you`re letting anyone in, don`t publicise it and promote it as a student event if thats not what it is.

Should I be allowed to play the women`s event in the IO, or the Seniors event as the WSOP? NO! Its not what it was intended for, dont say its one thing and let it turn out to be something else, just becuase you can make it bigger and more money from letting others in, or you are imo conning people into thinking its a student event when it clearly isnt.

Basically sums my thoughts up.
I know why your doing it but your calling it something it isn't.
Call it an under 25 tournament or something seeing as that is basically your market

bohsman

No foreigners should be allowed play the Irish open, its the IRISH open, not the Irish and whoever else wants to play from whatever country open.

carfax

cooker3 wrote: »

Basically sums my thoughts up.
I know why your doing it but your calling it something it isn't.
Call it an under 25 tournament or something seeing as that is basically your market

Basically the market is students, if you think you can do a better job than me at getting as many students in one place at one time to play in a quality poker tournament please feel free to do so.

Show me one other student tournament where you actually have to be a student to play, please show me one.

I invite you to post one reply to the above comments Rob but after that I am finished and will concentrate - for the next few weeks - on getting as many student poker players registered as I possibly can....

get registering please; stephen@pokerireland.ie ....

cooker3

carfax wrote: »

Basically the market is students, if you think you can do a better job than me at getting as many students in one place at one time to play in a quality poker tournament please feel free to do so.

Show me one other student tournament where you actually have to be a student to play, please show me one.

I invite you to post one reply to the above comments Rob but after that I am finished and will concentrate - for the next few weeks - on getting as many student poker players registered as I possibly can....

get registering please; stephen@pokerireland.ie ....

No I couldn't and never said I could. I have no doubt you will get good numbers and no doubt I will be 1 of them but does nothing to address my point that I think if your calling something a student tournament then it should be for students solely

carfax

cooker3 wrote: »

No I couldn't and never said I could. I have no doubt you will get good numbers and no doubt I will be 1 of them but does nothing to address my point that I think if your calling something a student tournament then it should be for students solely

Fair enough, I do see your point of course.....Glad we've both agreed that we don't live in a perfect world....Keep the registrations coming players stephen@pokerireland.ie

Goodluck2me

carfax wrote: »

Basically the market is students, if you think you can do a better job than me at getting as many students in one place at one time to play in a quality poker tournament please feel free to do so.

Show me one other student tournament where you actually have to be a student to play, please show me one.

I invite you to post one reply to the above comments Rob but after that I am finished and will concentrate - for the next few weeks - on getting as many student poker players registered as I possibly can....

get registering please; stephen@pokerireland.ie ....

Thats like the people in communist states saying, show me where democracy works perfectly.
Just becuase there is no perfect example isnt a reflection of how things should continue to be done.
You HAVE the option to make it a student only event, but are CHOOSING to allow others in.
I think u-25 or w/e would be more appropriate.