Joining the regular British Army?

Pathfinder

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Pathfinder

Mechanised infantry.....which the Irish Guards curent role is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11M4zV_j3z8

Pathfinder

Infantry air assault......current Royal Irish Regiment role.

Royal Irish soldiers also have the chance to pass P company.

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Pathfinder

Light role infantry, units such as the London Irish Rifles.

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Pathfinder

Infantry combat careers
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skipthispart

Hi i know this may be a little off topic but does anyone know if the soldiers (infantry) 1.5 mile run has to be completed in 10mins too or do they give you more time? Cheers

DILLIGAF

i was told it's 10:30 but i've heard of guys passing it in 11:15. im not 100% tbh

skipthispart

Alright...we'll see what other people say. Another off-topic question, do you decide what regiment you go into after training or when? i was thinking of the Princess of Waless Royal Regiment. Anyone have any info on them?

iwishicould

with regards to your 1.5mile run question if you're not doing it in under 9mins30 then you're not trying hard enough. it took me three months of solid running from being unfit to getting it from 11mins down to 8mins46.

the PWRR are a popular reg. across the water i was chatting to another irish lad and he was looking to join them, quite a few of the other english lads there were joining the PWRR. dunno why.

not sure when you decide your reg, for officers it's during training you decide.

skipthispart wrote: »

Alright...we'll see what other people say. Another off-topic question, do you decide what regiment you go into after training or when? i was thinking of the Princess of Waless Royal Regiment. Anyone have any info on them?

skipthispart

Alright thanks man. By the way I did only start running a month ago so hopefully in a few more months I should be doing 9s. Thanks again

Pathfinder

skipthispart wrote: »

Alright...we'll see what other people say. Another off-topic question, do you decide what regiment you go into after training or when? i was thinking of the Princess of Waless Royal Regiment. Anyone have any info on them?

I think they won the most medals in Iraq, mainly recruit from SE England and the channel islands a well as NI

1st Battalion: Armoured Infantry

2nd Battalion: Light Role Infantry

3rd Battalion: Territorial Army.






Regiments and battalions

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DILLIGAF

Was that road running or on a treadmill? 6 minute mile is kind of a standard but if your not going for para's or commando's then don't kill yourself trying to get to 9:30, they'll get you to that with all the training that you'll do in phase 1.

Regarding the regiment choice, it literally hasn't been mentioned to me yet if I know what regiment I want. It doesn't bother me at all so long as I get to put my skills from phase 2 into practice and give the regiment a helping hand in my chosen trade.

Anyway, I wouldn't bother asking too many questions here, unless you want an irish opinion. I find <snip> All refferal links snipped - Hagar <snip> to the best website around for information about recruiting to trades to regiments and their activities. A great community and generally comprising of soldiers and recruiters alike. I put up a thread asking for some basic info a few months ago and I got 3 PM's with numbers and names of people to get onto. Best of luck with it

skipthispart

Pathfinder wrote: »

I think they won the most medals in Iraq, mainly recruit from SE England and the channel islands a well as NI

1st Battalion: Armoured Infantry

2nd Battalion: Light Role Infantry

3rd Battalion: Territorial Army.






Regiments and battalions

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But its still possible to join the regiment from Ireland right? Thanks

Pathfinder

skipthispart wrote: »

But its still possible to join the regiment from Ireland right? Thanks

yes.

DILLIGAF

Pathfinder, I'm thinking about putting radar operator at the top of my job preferences. I was going to put Artillery Command Systems on top, but apparently you get trained in ACS during radar training as it is so I may as well go down this route in order to maximize my qualifications.

Any advice?

Pathfinder

DILLIGAF wrote: »

Pathfinder, I'm thinking about putting radar operator at the top of my job preferences. I was going to put Artillery Command Systems on top, but apparently you get trained in ACS during radar training as it is so I may as well go down this route in order to maximize my qualifications.

Any advice?

As far as I am aware that comes under Gunner trades and you dont have to make a choice until after about 8 weeks of training, in terms of wanting to be a Radar op or RA CS gunner,MRLS, UAV pilot etc.

I dont know much about gunner trades ask the careers office.

dc69

if you Irish and you join the army and the worst should happen,do they still cover the coffin in a union jack?

DILLIGAF

I'd say so. If your a patriot or think you are then this would bother you and thus you wouldn't find yourself even filling in an application to join the BA, never mind get buried by them. I'm no patriot.

dc69

DILLIGAF wrote: »

I'd say so. If your a patriot or think you are then this would bother you and thus you wouldn't find yourself even filling in an application to join the BA, never mind get buried by them. I'm no patriot.

Cant understand that,I respect people who join the british army but I put my country before my career and it would be a hugely moral disrespect to be brought home in a coffin bearing a symbol that served to oppress the Irish people for hundreds of years.If they are going to except Irish applicants then you should be considered irish and buried in a tri colour,it would be the least they could do for you after you gave your life to serve a country that you werent a citizen of.

Maybe others dont feel as patriotic.

DILLIGAF

let's not start a debate on patriotism. I can't say that the tri color has been used in only pure circumstances in the troubles up north. Every nation has blood on it's hands no matter what way you look at it. Human nature is a funny thing. And your right, not everyone is as patriotic. This country hasn't done an awful lot lately that we can be proud of, I won't hide behind my birth cert, carve your own path don't let your country do that for you, otherwise you'll start to sound like a yank.

Dub13

I could be wrong but I taught I read somewhere (maybe the Irish lad who was killed in Iraq a couple of years ago) that you can get your regiment flag over your coffin.

iwishicould

Lance Corporal Ian Malone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Keith_Malone

An honour guard of the Irish Guards in their full dress uniform was provided, though the coffin was not draped in the Union flag.

It would be most likely up to the family whether or not the coffin is draped in a flag.

OS119

dc69 wrote: »

Cant understand that,I respect people who join the british army but I put my country before my career and it would be a hugely moral disrespect to be brought home in a coffin bearing a symbol that served to oppress the Irish people for hundreds of years.If they are going to except Irish applicants then you should be considered irish and buried in a tri colour,it would be the least they could do for you after you gave your life to serve a country that you werent a citizen of.

Maybe others dont feel as patriotic.

if one did have a particularly strong vew over the 'oppression' issue, and further that you veiwed that 'oppression' as a live issue rather than a dead one, i image that you wouldn't join the BA in the first place - so semantics over which flag you were buried under would be an irrelevence.

perhaps there is another way of looking at it: a young man from the Republic of Ireland joins the BA, he moves to the UK, is trained and paid by the UK and entrusted by it to protect its most vital interests, fights for the UK, pays taxes to the UK (and not the RoI) and is then killed in some dust-hole ending in 'stan' while doing what he volunteered, trained and was paid to do.

exactly what right has the RoI to then claim him as their own?

he made a deliberate decision not to serve the RoI (in either a narrow, military, manner, or a wider, citizen, manner), but to serve (and be part of by living there, voting, paying taxes etc...) the UK. the insult would be to bury him in the Tricolour, it would not be a value judgement (Union Flag = good, Tricolour = bad), rather that it would piss on the decisions that the young man had made.

i have no idea what would happen if the family requested that a Tricolour be used instead - assuming they wanted a full military funeral, (i'm fairly sure that regional flags are ok - Munster, Leinster etc...) but if they didn't want a UF then it wouldn't be used. a point to note is that if the soldier was being buried in the RoI then its unlikely that a full British military funeral could occur in the first place - the RoI has 'interesting' sensibilties to such things as foreign soldiers in full uniform carrying rifles and then firing them...

Hagar

OS119 wrote: »

the RoI has 'interesting' sensibilties to such things as foreign soldiers in full uniform carrying rifles and then firing AT them...

I can't imagine why?*



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Kenmare

iwishicould wrote: »

Lance Corporal Ian Malone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Keith_Malone



It would be most likely up to the family whether or not the coffin is draped in a flag.

Shot in the head................

ouch, how embarrasing. But hey at least it was quick ^_^:(

Dub13

Kenmare wrote: »

Shot in the head................

ouch, how embarrasing. But hey at least it was quick ^_^:(

I am not sure why been shot in the head is more embarrassing than been shot anywhere else.

DILLIGAF

Dub13 wrote: »

I am not sure why been shot in the head is more embarrassing than been shot anywhere else.

least of all by a sniper, who's primary role it is to execute in one shot anyway. he was doing his job and obviously did it right, nothing embarrassing about that imo....

blade796

1st battalion Royal Anglians riot training demo.


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backonceagain

For anyone interested I should be going on the 20th of august.Ended up going with tank crewman for my role. Queens Royal Hussars,Winston Churchills old regiment,which I pretty interested in anyway considering his role in WW2. Anyway I used to be DILLIGAF,but got banned for mouthing off,after investigation mods decided to let me keep this account anyway,so yeah,no need to report me! anyway good luck to anyone else considering joining 'Fear Naught'

iwishicould

backonceagain wrote: »

For anyone interested I should be going on the 20th of august.Ended up going with tank crewman for my role. Queens Royal Hussars,Winston Churchills old regiment,which I pretty interested in anyway considering his role in WW2. Anyway I used to be DILLIGAF,but got banned for mouthing off,after investigation mods decided to let me keep this account anyway,so yeah,no need to report me! anyway good luck to anyone else considering joining 'Fear Naught'

well done! I'll be doing my Army Officer Selection Board that week. If all goes well I'll be off to Sandhurst in Jan '09.

So you're going as a soldier? Do you have to do Phase 1 and Phase 2 training in like catterick or someplace like that?