Tipping

Requiem4adream

Wanna hear some boardsies policy on tipping?

I always tip regardless of service given - reason being most waiters/waitresses/delivery boys get paid sh1t and generally do a good job.

Couple arguments in the last week with the girlfriend though - for example out at the cinema (No Country for Old Men - quality!!), grabbed a pizza hut before the film, after we were seated he served 2 tables who arrived after us first, then took forever getting all our stuff to us, didnt get time to finish everything had to leave a soldier on the field (1/4 of a bbq deluxe, gutted), came to €43 gave him €50, keep the change.

her contention was the food was sh1t, service was bad and i still tipped and that i should reserve tips for good service.

hopalong85

She was right tbh. I tip but not if the service is bad. In this case it was bad dude.

P.S. No country for old men is quality. Agreed.

cazzy

I will always tip in restaurant but the tip might not be good if the service was bad. I never know about glorified takesaways such as pizza hut or eddie rockets. (~usually tip in pizza hut alright) do other people tip in these places ?
Never no if i shud tip in hairdressers though and then if i decide i will it is always so arkward.

Zaph

Well my opinion is that service that bad doesn't deserve a tip, and even if you felt you had to leave something, €7 on a €43 bill is far too much.

Tragedy

I tend to tip about 10% in restaurants if the service is good, €1-€2 for a round in a pub and if its a nice taxi-man, around a fiver.

Crazy Christ

I tend to tip around 500 Euros as I am obscenely rich. I hate having too many notes in my pocket. Can't be bothered with the damn stuff.

Nah not really. Usually tip taxi drivers

bucks73

Yep....I would never tip for service I wasnt happy with or where a service charge was included. If service is shoite and food is crap, as in your case, theres no way they are getting a tip.

Chunky Monkey

I always tip pizza delivery guys cos it seems like a such s*** job to depend on, especially in my area. With regards poor service in restaurants I sometimes wonder is it that the waiter/ess has a chip on their shoulder or that their boss is a total prick who has sucked the soul out of them.

Ruu_Old

First time I tipped was a pizza delivery person on my first trip to the US, pizza was around $8, I gave him a $20 and told him to keep the change. I think it made his day.
Worst one I left was 1 cent from a ignorant cnut of waiter who acted like he couldn't be arsed.

FunkZ

Tip if they're sound and good workers...

Black Swan

I feel that I am getting a bit tippsy after yet another tipping thread.

phasers

I tip for good service, they deserve their crappy wages if they give poor service
same goes for taxi drivers

my hairdresser is brilliant though,I've been going there for years and aways leave at least a fiver

pid()

I always tip because I hate carrying change around.

Mossy Monk

I tip no one. Minimum wage is good enough for everyone.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Requiem4adream wrote: »

her contention was the food was sh1t, service was bad and i still tipped and that i should reserve tips for good service.

IMO your GF was correct.

And with experience you'll learn, women are ALWAYS right.

Tipping in general...

If I'm a regular in a certain place I'll generally be a generous tipper as I know it ensure's better service in future, ie I'll tip upwards of 15%.

If its a first visit the service would have to be first class & friendly to get a tip.

I don't feel obliged to tip taxi driver's, however most are sound and I'll generally around up a fare.

Of course I won't tip bus driver's etc, you can't. But I will always thank them when I'm getting off the bus.

Delivery guys I tip, I've done the job and it can be sh*t.

mikemac

Poor Service: Complain straight way, don't tip and then rant on boards
Average Service: No tip, be polite and possibly use their business again.
Good Service: Tip but no more than 10%.

My rant: Why does the waiter get a tip for carrying plates and Ivan who is in the bowels of the kitchen busting his ass scrubbing pots and pans get nothing?
He deserves it far more.

Last guy I tipped managed to deliver a takeaway order in 8 minutes. Now that's fast and he deserved the tip.

Tip a taximan? If he's in a 10 year old battered Toyota Corolla I figure why tip when he won't provide a modern car for his fares.
And if he uses a modern 07/08 reg car I figure he is doing well so again no tip.

Collie D

micmclo wrote: »

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My rant: Why does the waiter get a tip for carrying plates and Ivan who is in the bowels of the kitchen busting his ass scrubbing pots and pans get nothing?
He deserves it far more.

Depends on the restaurant. Some places split tips with kitchen staff. In others, kitchen staff are paid more. Waiting staff will be offered a lower wage on the understanding that they can improve this with tipping.

Never tip a taxi driver, I don't see a point. Would never tip in a bar, once again, no point. Would possibly tip in a restaurant if and only if I feel they deserve it.

Minimum wage in this country and in America are 2 completely different things.

Exactly Boneyarse.

We are fleeced in this country as it is....if a hairdresser or waitress can't live on their wages, that is theirs and their bosses problem not mine.

galwayrush

I tip when service is good, i tip well when service is very good
Bad service, no Tip.

Saruman

What country do you think you live in? this is not the US. you do not tip for bad service, it only promotes it.
I would only tip in a restaurant where the service was excellent. If im kept waiting for 20 mins for the cheque.. or worse.. get sick of waiting am forced to get up and go pay myself, ot if the service is just rubbish.. then no tip.

I do not think waiters etc get paid sh!t bu the way. They are probably better paid than someone working in Dunnes or Tesco.. do you tip them for ringing up your grocery bill?

Stop being a pussy and only tip when its deserved.

I have only tipped a barber once i believe, it was this year on new years eve in Athlone. He was a foreign barber, Im not sure where from and he was a perfectionist. He moved the scissors like a bloody Ninja and did the best job i have ever had from a barber.

I sometimes, not always tip the chinese delivery guy. He is a local here. It depends on the price of the food. If its €17 or so i will give him a €20 and leave it at that.

Plan_D

I tend to leave 10% unless it is bad to Very bad.

I tend to have discussions with my better half when the service chagre is included. As far as I know that is a tip. So I say only leave a couple of euro for the Waiter etc. She thinks tip as normal

Saruman

Plan_D wrote: »

I tend to leave 10% unless it is bad to Very bad.

I tend to have discussions with my better half when the service chagre is included. As far as I know that is a tip. So I say only leave a couple of euro for the Waiter etc. She thinks tip as normal

A service charge is a tip, you do not tip on top of that. That is why a lot of menu's will say service charge not included or something like that.

If you add money on to the service charge then it has to be outstanding service.

In france, tipping is the norm but its usually in the form of a service charge. You are not expected to give any more, unless things have changed.

kizzyr

Requiem4adream wrote: »

Wanna hear some boardsies policy on tipping?

I always tip regardless of service given - reason being most waiters/waitresses/delivery boys get paid sh1t and generally do a good job.

Couple arguments in the last week with the girlfriend though - for example out at the cinema (No Country for Old Men - quality!!), grabbed a pizza hut before the film, after we were seated he served 2 tables who arrived after us first, then took forever getting all our stuff to us, didnt get time to finish everything had to leave a soldier on the field (1/4 of a bbq deluxe, gutted), came to €43 gave him €50, keep the change.

her contention was the food was sh1t, service was bad and i still tipped and that i should reserve tips for good service.

Your girlfriend was 100% right. I stopped going to Pizza Hut because I got so fed up with the bad service, bad food and in general bad attitude from the staff and I've always found their restaurants to be filthy, food all over the floor and the toilets are disgusting. There is no excuse for that.
I only tip if I'm happy with the food and service. Never ever ever tip taxi drivers, it costs an absolute fortune to get into a taxi and for the most part the drivers irritate the hell out of me.

Toto Wolfcastle

I worked in a restaurant and was on less than minimum wage. The boss used to divide the tips between whoever was working on a particular night. He'd let the tips build up, then divide them, and we'd all get our money wrapped in paper with the date on it. It was like a savings account without interest! I worked the busiest nights of the week so I got loads, but those who worked on quiet nights, especially during the summer, got very little. This is fair enough because the busy nights were crazy whereas the quiet nights were spent chatting and then the staff were sent home early.

I really depended on those tips, and the job was fairly crap, so I tend to tip quite well when the service is good. I usually tip a little more than 10%. I always give the tip to the person who served me. Even if the tips are divided then at least he/she knows I appreciated the service. If the service/food is bad, then I wont tip.

I tip delivery men too, but once I had no change and the poor man looked distraught!

As for taxis, I do tip but I never know how much. The journey I take the most costs around 7 euro, so I usually give 8, but once I gave ten because I was delirious after a 4 hour bus journey!

Saruman

This thread could turn into a rant about Pizza hut service I always find the same. The last time (have not gone to one since because of this) It was in the dundrum centre. I probably even ranted about it on boards

We were shown to our table and were there for over 30 mins watching our waiter take the order of people who came in after us. I said to my wife, if it happens again we are leaving.. sure enough the next group that came in got their order taken before us. So we left in disgust.

Janey.... how can you get LESS than minimum wage?

Toto Wolfcastle

Saruman wrote: »

Janey.... how can you get LESS than minimum wage?

I could be wrong but I think there are certain conditions before you are entitled to minimum wage, for instance age. I was 18 in my first year so:

From Citizens Information:

First year from date of first employment aged over 18 €6.92

However, after that I was definitely getting paid less than I was entitled to. But I was young and believed the boss when he gave me his excuses!

Also, it was a cash-in-hand kind of thing. :eek:

Saruman

No tax then? Or did he charge you tax on top of it?? Anyway way off topic but you could have (had you known better) taken him to court.

watna

If I get bad service, I purposely don't leave a tip. Good service I definitely do but never as much as %10. People are right, minimujm wage is not as bad here as places like the states. If everyone tipped this way then service would become better because people would make good money from tips.

Once, I went for dinner to an Italian restaurant with my girls. The meal was so bad and the service even worse that my friend refused to pay the service charge, and there was nothing they could really say about it when we explained all the things that went wrong with our meal (waiting for 40 minutes to take our order, my friends lasagne coming out still frozen etc). They should have given us free drinks or something but of course didn't. More people should do refuse to pay service charges if meals are bad. Then service will improve.

I've waitressed before, when I was 16. I used to get abot £10 pounds a day in tips (twas back in the day) and I really appreciated the exra cash. So I always do tip if the service was good. Saying that, I've never had such good service in Dublin that I've felt compelled to leave a generous tip. I have in other countries though.

ztoical

what do people think of places like o'briens having a tip jar at the till? I use to work retail [well known book store] and all the staff got pissed off seeing this tip jar, it was a tiny o'briens [in a shopping center] so they only had to walk a few feet to get everything, we had to do much more running around to get books/magazines/newspapers etc for people but you've never see a tip jar at the till of our shop.


with anything that has service like a cafe, taxi, hairdresser I tip but then I lived in new york for years so it was kinda kicked into me [thou still only if it was good service]

Gang of Gin

Tip a taximan? If he's in a 10 year old battered Toyota Corolla I figure why tip when he won't provide a modern car for his fares.
And if he uses a modern 07/08 reg car I figure he is doing well so again no tip.[/quote]


I like your thinking.

thefinalstage

Gang of Gin wrote: »

Tip a taximan? If he's in a 10 year old battered Toyota Corolla I figure why tip when he won't provide a modern car for his fares.
And if he uses a modern 07/08 reg car I figure he is doing well so again no tip.

Pfft! Obviously you aren't self employed.

Cokehead Mother

I tip the hot pizza guy more than generously and I always let people keep the change unless it's a crazy amount.

Collie D

Regarding the minimum wage...there used to be ways employers could get around it..not sure if this is still the case.

They can say it is part of a training scheme
Employee is under 18


I know Pizza Hut did use the first case and potential employess were told tips would make up the shortfall

dsmythy

I never tip anyone bar taxi drivers for getting me home safely. You get paid to do your job. Save all that tip money for people who really need it badly.

Cokehead Mother

dsmythy wrote: »

Save all that tip money for people who really need it badly.

Like pizza delivery guys with perfect bone structure and pretty eyes and the most adorable smile and you could just hug them all day.

mikemac

thelastangryman wrote: »

Pfft! Obviously you aren't self employed.

You're quoting Gang of Gin in Post 32 and that was my post from Post 16

Someone is stealing the (usually rubbish) posts that I write. Someone is gonna pay :mad:

Collie D

Cokehead Mother wrote: »

Like pizza delivery guys with perfect bone structure and pretty eyes and the most adorable smile and you could just hug them all day.

I stopped delivering pizzas a while ago Was only a temporary gig for extra cash

IRLConor

I tip delivery men (€2 or rounded up) and restaurant staff (5-15% depending on service). It's very rare that I leave less than 10% in a restaurant, simply because their wages are so useless. I tip lounge boys but not barmen for the same reason.

I almost never explicitly tip taxi drivers. If they are silent (or REALLY interesting) and take the most direct route and I'm in a good mood I'll round it up. The only times I've tipped is when they find very clever shortcuts which avoid nasty traffic and save me time or money in the process.

kizzyr

dsmythy wrote: »

I never tip anyone bar taxi drivers for getting me home safely. You get paid to do your job. Save all that tip money for people who really need it badly.

You're paying the taxi driver handsomely to get you home safely which is after all his job so why on earth would you tip him? Of all the people I'm never going to tip taxi drivers are top of the list.

dsmythy

kizzyr wrote: »

You're paying the taxi driver handsomely to get you home safely which is after all his job so why on earth would you tip him? Of all the people I'm never going to tip taxi drivers are top of the list.

I find there is a difference between getting your food on time and getting home safe and sound. Obviously I wouldn't tip them if they are blatantly trying to rip me off. Outside of taxi men though i wouldn't tip.

jdivision

Tip 12.5 per cent in restaurants for standard service, won't tip for bad service. Round up taxi fares sometimes depending on my mood. Tipped guys who delivered my sofa e20, same for guys who delivered my wardrobes.

MrVostro

Since almost all taxi drivers ive met own the car then i fell tipping them is exactly the same as if they give me a few quid off the fare.

So when one gives me a few quid off i'll tip him.

arybvtcw0eolkf

kizzyr wrote: »

You're paying the taxi driver handsomely to get you home safely which is after all his job so why on earth would you tip him? Of all the people I'm never going to tip taxi drivers are top of the list.

Why?.

arybvtcw0eolkf

MrVostro wrote: »

Since almost all taxi drivers ive met own the car then i fell tipping them is exactly the same as if they give me a few quid off the fare.

So when one gives me a few quid off i'll tip him.

Good point, but what about when one rounds the fare down?...

Seriously, I check the metered fare all the time. And I'd say in over 90% of case's the fare is rounded down, ie the meter reads €9:40 and the driver asks for €9-

In that case I'll always give the €euro tip.

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Mairt wrote: »

Good point, but what about when one rounds the fare down?...

Yeah, he's a nice guy, but I have not seen him around in ages.

The rest of them get paid well enough.

kizzyr

Mairt wrote: »

Why?.

The vast majority of taxi drivers I've come across have been horrible thats why and I've had a few bad experiences. I also think the fare is steep enough without adding a tip into the equation.

kizzyr

dsmythy wrote: »

I find there is a difference between getting your food on time and getting home safe and sound. Obviously I wouldn't tip them if they are blatantly trying to rip me off. Outside of taxi men though i wouldn't tip.

Of course there is a difference between bad service in a restaurant and getting home unscathed. My point is that when you hire a taxi driver it is an unspoken part of the agreement that he/she will get you home safely so you are already paying them to do that in the fare so why pay them extra?

deemy

Why do people keep mentioning that waiter/ess get such a poor wage. They are on at least minimum wage like a lot of people ie those who work in a factory, dunnes or tescos or where ever and as someone said would you tip the cashier for scanning your shopping. I refuse to tip if the service is bad even if the food is excellent as 99% of the time the kitchen staff slave for hours and dont see any of the tips. There is no excuse for bad service. If you don't like the job change it and if you still don't like it you shouldn't be working in the industry. It is called the hospitality industry afterall.
I always tip taxi driver as we nearly always get the same guy. He always finds time to collect us whatever time of night even if we havn't booked so I guess due to the fact tip well he remembers that.
The hairdressers is an iffy one though. I usually spend 20 mins in there and cost is usually around €50. nice wage for 20mins so sometimes i do tip sometimes i don't

kizzyr

deemy wrote: »

Why do people keep mentioning that waiter/ess get such a poor wage. They are on at least minimum wage like a lot of people ie those who work in a factory, dunnes or tescos or where ever and as someone said would you tip the cashier for scanning your shopping. I refuse to tip if the service is bad even if the food is excellent as 99% of the time the kitchen staff slave for hours and dont see any of the tips. There is no excuse for bad service. If you don't like the job change it and if you still don't like it you shouldn't be working in the industry. It is called the hospitality industry afterall.
I always tip taxi driver as we nearly always get the same guy. He always finds time to collect us whatever time of night even if we havn't booked so I guess due to the fact tip well he remembers that.
The hairdressers is an iffy one though. I usually spend 20 mins in there and cost is usually around €50. nice wage for 20mins so sometimes i do tip sometimes i don't

More often than not the kitchen staff are paid more than the floor staff so the tip issue evens itself out.

deemy

kizzyr wrote: »

More often than not the kitchen staff are paid more than the floor staff so the tip issue evens itself out.[/
Yes I agree that the wage would even out as usually the chef could be at work for twice the time the waiter/ess and unless they are are relief chef they get a set salary rather than by the hour so if the chef does a few hours extra more often than not they don't get paid for it. I do think the kitchen staff should get a share of the tips especially the poor guy on wash up who probably gets the rawest deal and are usually the hardest worker as things get fired from dining room and from us in kitchen and more often than not never complain.