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Glamour Photography

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    #62
    rymus
    Registered Users Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    yes.. but apart from that, I need something to hide the various birthmarks and superfluous nipples


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    #63
    Thirdfox
    Registered Users Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    rymus wrote: »
    A Brazillion? Err.. about a million million?

    Brazilian wax job...

    *Link removed*

    (site is NSFW and in German but gets the point across through pictures).

    And why would I know what a brazilian wax job is? :o


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    #64
    rymus
    Registered Users Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    ahh I knew what ya meant :p

    it was a re-creation of a poorly executed george bush jr. joke.


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    #65
    challengemaster
    Registered Users Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    I'll chip in for that, rymus.. least I can do seeing as I wont be taking the 20D from you ;)


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    #66
    Chunky Monkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Chunky Monkey


    Extra nipples are sexy :D

    A brazilian costs too much and I don't just mean in terms of money *shudder* Plus it also brings up a paedo argument now and then...


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    #67
    Thirdfox
    Registered Users Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    Ouch...I don't want to know :eek:

    Hmm it seems we are straying dangerously off topic - what with all this talk of hairless genitalia :D


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    #68
    rymus
    Registered Users Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    yes.. I'll be off to my bed before I get myself into any more potential trouble.


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    #69
    Borderfox
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    In my defence its about gaining more experience whether that be shooting sport macro or whatever it is. Personally I dont know why women dont get the same urge to shoot nekkid guys, probably part of the the men are from Mars and Women from Venus thing... Its not an answer but there you are :)
    elven wrote: »
    Ok, I've held off long enough... :rolleyes:

    Why don't women seem to get the same urge to shoot nekkid blokes? Does this go on the same principal as me shooting flowers, as in: "pretty thing, must make pictures of it", or is it just a ruse to get girls to strip off for you? Is anyone trying to say something with these, or take them beyond eye candy? Is there something new to be done with them, apart from the now also cliché human-in-landscape thing?

    I could be the biggest hypocrite in the world, given that I doubt I'm saying anything with macros of amaryllis petals, but i could hold it in no longer... Anyone? Any explanations? Or is it just as it appears at face value, and no different to the photographer than shooting a building, a bird (no puns please), a landscape, or long exposure traffic trails?

    /trying desperately not to sound like a rant


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    #70
    Fajitas!
    Registered Users Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Back on topic, please.

    From personal experience, there's very few photographers (I'd nearly go as far as saying no good Irish photographers - prove me wrong) that can make glamour look good. Any of them that can, are usually at the top of the game. (What was that website, think it's closed now, but it was something like an Irish 'model' directory? It was hilarious looking through it. Some of the photos in it looked like they spent hours trying to take the piss... Then you realised they weren't...)

    Fashion, I have to say, is a different business to glamour. You're showing something off to a completly different clientelle. (If you think a fashion mag has a few tits in it means it is glamour, or visa versa, you're either reading the wrong mags, or reading them wrong)

    I'm too tired for the full talk.


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    #71
    Chunky Monkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Chunky Monkey


    Some nice photos of Kiera Knightly in the January edition of Elle. I've never seen her face look that good in a photo before.


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    #72
    rymus
    Registered Users Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    /me flies off to google


    Wait... what the hell am I doing? I must be more sleep deprived than I thought.


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    #73
    Calina
    Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    Glamour photography and fashion photography are selling two different products basically. Glamour photography by and large is selling a male fantasy and fashion photography is usually selling some clothing or cosmetic product. You could argue that it's selling a fantasy as well; I just don't know whose fantasy it's selling. Not mine anyway.

    Regards how you would approach it; if it's an indoor shoot, lighting is going to be your bugbear, but the studio guys will have more advice for you on that.


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    #74
    mikeanywhere
    Registered Users Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭mikeanywhere


    rymus wrote: »
    yes.. but apart from that, I need something to hide the various birthmarks and superfluous nipples

    What about the 3rd nipple??? :p


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    #75
    rymus
    Registered Users Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    it's not the third one I'm worried about.. the 4th, 5th, 6th and especially the 7th ones really worry me


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    #76
    Thirdfox
    Registered Users Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    More cow-like than man...


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    #77
    loloray
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭loloray


    Shame on the photographers who posted the unprofessional comments posted here. To those people, I hope those of you who plan on working with a model find your comments here, so that they get an insight into your professionalism.

    To the OP: 'Glamour' in photography today is no longer what was considered to be 'glamourous' back in the 1940s (e.g. Audrey Hepburn). Today, Glamour would be considered the FHM/Zoo-style photographs, i.e. a model wearing sexy underwear, in a sexy pose, with a 'sexy' expression (e.g. pouting, lustful expression).

    I would consider the two photographs of the naked models taken in Randalstown to be more artistic-nude than Glamour. The first one of the girl in the underwear would be more Glamour.

    It is not uncommon to find a model who will work to a level of nudity, implied nudity, but who is not interested in working in Glamour.

    I would suggest you approach the shoot with a very professional attitude. Even if you are working TFP/TFCD, it is still work for both of you, and the same attitude should be used if you were working in an office. I would not make any crass comments unless the model indicates that's what she would tolerate.

    I would also recommend working with a model who has experience working in Glamour before. This way, you will learn from her, and she will give you tips. It is better to pay the model if you have no experience (in my opinion), rather than getting an inexperienced model on a TFCD basis. Additionally, I would make sure she is over 18 and get a good model-release that she will sign.

    To Fajitas: I largely agree with you. I agree that it is difficult to find 'good' glamour in the Irish scene here, but there are certainly some - if you are interested, PM me and I can send you links. The website you mentioned is no longer in use but there is another one which has replaced it. It is better, imo. You will still find glamour photographs there.


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    #78
    Thirdfox
    Registered Users Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    No shame :D - I don't think the thread was turning into a very serious discussion of glamour photography anyway. I did certainly give my views on the subject.

    I sometimes do work with models but as I said I would find shooting nudes strange and wouldn't be in such a position anyway. When I'm on a "job" I am quite professional about it.

    But good luck with your modelling thing and you seem to have given some good practical advice.

    Welcome to boards by the way.


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    #79
    Hugh_C
    Registered Users Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hugh_C


    City-Exile wrote: »
    Interesting, Fionn.
    I wasn't going for glam, when I took that shot.
    This was the type of thing I set out to capture.

    32EB6CCC43FA4ED0AFFF167E7D2D2A99.jpg

    Poor girl looks frozen, y'all need to keep the room a bit warmer - say 25 degrees and a nice cup of tea. And quite often with pale complexions, a modest dose of spray-tanning doesn't go amiss ...


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    #80
    elven
    Registered Users Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭elven


    Can't we embrace the paleness instead of spraying it away? I've seen some beautiful stuff done with pale skin and dark haired portraits, that makes the most of the translucence of the complexion.

    Milk bottles ftw!!!


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    #81
    Paulw
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 13,381 Mod ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    I have to admit, I prefer pale skin to fake tan.

    On that shoot, Lynette wasn't really that cold. Peadar had her stand outside naked, just to get that cold effect. :D

    Nah, seriously, the studio wasn't that cold. It actually went from very hot to very cold quite quickly. But, at all times we made sure that the girls didn't get cold, took breaks, had tea/coffee, changed outfits, and most of all - enjoyed the day.


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    #82
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,168 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    elven wrote: »
    Can't we embrace the paleness instead of spraying it away? I've seen some beautiful stuff done with pale skin and dark haired portraits, that makes the most of the translucence of the complexion.

    Milk bottles ftw!!!

    I think pale can work very well, as can light tan.
    But its the middle ground that is poor. When pale skin is not highlighted enough to show it is clearly intended


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    #83
    loloray
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭loloray


    Thirdfox wrote: »
    No shame :D - I don't think the thread was turning into a very serious discussion of glamour photography anyway. I did certainly give my views on the subject.

    I sometimes do work with models but as I said I would find shooting nudes strange and wouldn't be in such a position anyway. When I'm on a "job" I am quite professional about it.

    But good luck with your modelling thing and you seem to have given some good practical advice.

    Welcome to boards by the way.
    Thx.

    I just think that there are a lot of male Irish photographers who buy a fancy digital camera, who use this as a way to 'point and shoot' at hot models in sexy underwear, while making crass and cheap remarks. They give other serious photographers a bad reputation, and I think that photographers (who are serious) should be wary about that when they are posting on public forums.


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    #84
    Fajitas!
    Registered Users Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Welcome to the forum indeed loloray.

    I'd be interested to see some of the better photographers around alright. I really haven't been impressed by what I've seen so far, but am certainly open to correction!

    :)


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    #85
    Thirdfox
    Registered Users Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    loloray wrote: »
    Thx.

    I just think that there are a lot of male Irish photographers who buy a fancy digital camera, who use this as a way to 'point and shoot' at hot models in sexy underwear, while making crass and cheap remarks. They give other serious photographers a bad reputation, and I think that photographers (who are serious) should be wary about that when they are posting on public forums.

    My digital camera certainly isn't fancy (in fact it may be the un-fancyist current production camera right now ;)) but I would have assumed that the professionals would be...professional when doing a job? Crass and cheap remarks certainly do not sound like anything I'd hear from a photographer when out on a job but then I haven't done any glamour photography before.

    Sure, we're all a bunch of softies once you get to know us (especially Oriel* :))

    *small in-joke


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    #86
    rymus
    Registered Users Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    Fajitas! wrote: »
    I'd be interested to see some of the better photographers around alright.

    Now what exactly are you implying? :p Better photographers in this specific field I hope :)


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    #87
    melekalikimaka
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    Thirdfox wrote: »

    *small in-joke


    <sniffle> i miss Shrimp...now thats old school:D


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    #88
    Melvin76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭Melvin76


    couple of jobs under my belt now. just popped in to thank all posters.

    cheers


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    #89
    whyulittle
    Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭whyulittle


    melekalikimaka wrote: »
    <sniffle> i miss Shrimp...now thats old school:D

    What happened to him?


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    #90
    Fionn
    Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭Fionn


    had to re-read this to get an idea what it was all about :)

    on an other note we should probably do a "where are they now" feature at some stage eh?

    :)


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    #91
    [Deleted User]
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    Fun thread to read..

    Just going to jump in here, feel free to ignore..

    TBH, the usual Zoo/NUTS/Standard Soft Porn pics don't really do it for me. Could be from going to a boarding school where there was always a ready supply of said magazines but I have seem some old-school (normally B&W) pics of people like Sophia Lauren and Audrey Hepburn etc which are absolutely stunning. The pics by Borderfox and City-Exile are much more interesting then a wannabe Jordon getting her tits out on the beach or whatever.

    Its a pity really as I have seen some stunning girls in glamour shoots but these type of pictures seem to homogenise the girls and make them all look dull..

    Just my .02c - I will gladly 'vet' any glamour pics that you guys are taking in the near future though!!


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