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N18 - Limerick Tunnel & South Ring Road Phase II

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    #122
    ilovegermany
    Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭ilovegermany


    Thanks a million!

    What is the rationale behind closing access to the Childers Road?


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    #123
    Zoney
    Registered Users Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Zoney


    Afaik it was due to local objections raised about traffic through the area. Way back at the consultation phase.

    So the junction was designed with the citybound access omitted due to planning - not money or practicality.


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    #124
    pajoguy
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    Zoney wrote: »
    Afaik it was due to local objections raised about traffic through the area. Way back at the consultation phase.

    So the junction was designed with the citybound access omitted due to planning - not money or practicality.

    Madness, madness, madness........ :mad::mad::mad::mad:

    I would imagine the existing two lanes M20 west will be reduced to one lane to M7 west(towards Dock Road) slip road with other half heading M20 west to adare.

    Anybody any recent aerial pics of this project. Thought DR would have site updated more frequently. Photos there are since Jan 2008!


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    #125
    smashingred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24 ✭smashingred


    Does anyone have any up to date photos on this scheme.
    The photographs on the website date from 2008 & I have my doubts that the ''live webcam'' is in fact life @ all!!
    Thanks!!:)


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    #126
    Tech3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭Tech3


    smashingred wrote: »
    Does anyone have any up to date photos on this scheme.
    The photographs on the website date from 2008 & I have my doubts that the ''live webcam'' is in fact life @ all!!
    Thanks!!:)

    Go back a few pages


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    #127
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,290 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Moved to Infrastructure.


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    #128
    clon
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭clon


    from yesterdays Limerick Leader, look like they are only starting to cop on that the inbound lane to the city from the Rosbrien interchange is going to be cut off.Look like a little too late to do anything now about it.

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Concern-at-plan-to-cut.5652905.jp


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    #129
    pajoguy
    Registered Users Posts: 788 ✭✭✭pajoguy


    clon wrote: »
    from yesterdays Limerick Leader, look like they are only starting to cop on that the inbound lane to the city from the Rosbrien interchange is going to be cut off.Look like a little too late to do anything now about it.

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Concern-at-plan-to-cut.5652905.jp

    Its very amateurish approach for the Maldron Hotel not to have their research done but bloody hell the dooradoyle road will be chaotic as will the dock road. Some of us have known about this for a long time but the general public will go through the roof when it ccomes into place especially if its done before the link over to the dock road is opened!

    It might be lie the Ballysimon interchange where they will tackle the interchange in a few years after completion.


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    #130
    Tech3
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    The section between Rossbrien and Dock rd interchanges now have the concrete barrier constructed. CBM was being layed down when I passed yesterday, I probably should have got out and took a video but was too lazy!


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    #131
    Zoney
    Registered Users Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Zoney


    Cantilever up on the N7 SRR phase 2 for eastbound approaching the M20 junction (Rosbrien) - just before the L1144 Greenfields Road overbridge. No signs on it yet though (wonder what colour it will be - the mainline will be N7 there (becoming M7 directly after that off-slip), but the off-slip will serve both Carew Park Link (presumably to be downgraded from N20 given that the M20 northbound will have no access to it) and the M20 southbound.

    The finishing touches seem to have been put to the R526 St. Nessan's Road overbridge, with installation of a braking/anti-skid layer and road markings on the ramp at the Dooradoyle r/bout. Traffic is using the final lanes on the bridge now (1x bus, 2x general, 1x hatching/bicycle). The N7 mainline under there has the central barrier installed.


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    #132
    Tech3
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    The rate at which this scheme is going now is incredible. I've read an article saying the tunnel is complete only a few final fittings to be done to it. And the mainline is well ... changed alot from June:

    Here is the latest from the Ballykeefe overbridge:

    Looking east
    DSC02589.jpg

    Looking west(dock rd interchange)
    DSC02588.jpg


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    #133
    BluntGuy
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    Pity this fantastic scheme won't be M.

    Is there anything actually stopping them from doing this (apart from local whinging)? There isn't to my knowledge, but perhaps someone with more knowledge of the area would care to enlighten me on any potential issues that would arise.

    Also, cheers for the snaps Tech2! :)


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    #134
    Tech3
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    BluntGuy wrote: »
    Pity this fantastic scheme won't be M.

    Is there anything actually stopping them from doing this (apart from local whinging)? There isn't to my knowledge, but perhaps someone with more knowledge of the area would care to enlighten me on any potential issues that would arise.

    Also, cheers for the snaps Tech2! :)

    I don't know why it isn't going to be M either. Its being built HQDC so I see no reason why it shouldn't. Same goes for the N25 Waterford bypass


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    #135
    sonyair
    Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭sonyair


    I don't know why it isn't going to be M either


    Maybe they want to keep the land along side for development in years to come


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    #136
    mysterious
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    I keep saying this and I'm pulling my hair out. There is no HQDC in this country that has ever been affected by infill development. If it's motorway standard the developments will only join up at the existing interchanges. There will be little effect regardless if it's motorway.

    There is a river, a lake, a causeway and a railine for most of it's lenght. If it becomes motorway it still won't be affected by development. If it stays as HQDC it still wont be an issue, so why does this section lose it's status.


    Bwcause I really don't understand why it doesn't get it's motorway status. It ends onto a motorway. I don't see the logic in one half of the Limerick bypass motorway and the other HQDC.

    Development is already on most of the land that is flat or close to the actual bypass. Becuase its in the city limits developments and that won't affect the route evev idf it goes ahead as motorway. There is no problem reclassifing it.

    I am interested to know why it didn't get the blue status. By god it has to be something about greed and stupidity.

    On top of that.
    I really don't get the delusion with people assuming that if it's made motorway all of a sudden there is no built up areas allowed on either side of the landbanks. Land is on the city limits it can be built right up to the motorway but not on it. I think thats what Irish people are afraid of. Some developer will build a shopping centre on the motorway........... I am sure of it. This is why many people wanted the Athlone bypass motorway. They feared some developer would build a casino on it..... like literally ON THE MAINLINE CARRIEWAY
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    Motorway doexist in cities throughout the "WORLD WE LIVE IN" i've never hear this idiotic claims about this frenzy talk exempting developements adjacent to the motorway. The M50 in Dublin is a motorway and guess what about 500,000 people live on its entire fringe.


    They should make this motorway as it's lead's to a motorway and ends up on the N18 DC. It is also a toll road so I don't see what the problem is.


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    #137
    L1011
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    mysterious wrote: »
    I keep saying this and I'm pulling my hair out. There is no HQDC in this country that has ever been affected by infill development. If it's motorway standard the developments will only join up at the existing interchanges. There will be little effect regardless if it's motorway.

    There is, its the Cork South Ring Road. Its extremely hard to throw a junction on to a motorway, but its not hard to get permission to chuck one up on a DC.


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    #138
    Zoney
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    It needs to be motorway - it's up to scratch, there is no way pedestrians etc. should be on it and it would safely allow a 120 km/h limit (merely changing the limit without motorway status would make it even more unsafe due to the lack of restrictions on who can use it, plus the lax attitude to hard shoulders for non-motorway).


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    #139
    Chris_533976
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭Chris_533976


    I know the roundabouts (all connected by DC) in Galway dont really count, but there is so much bloody private access on them that its ridiculous. That cant be made motorway for obvious reasons.


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    #140
    mysterious
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    MYOB wrote: »
    There is, its the Cork South Ring Road. Its extremely hard to throw a junction on to a motorway, but its not hard to get permission to chuck one up on a DC.

    Thats balony, They wouldn't get permission.

    God people think the powers of be are above the law even if the laws don't make sense. They built interchanges on many motorways

    Nenagh bypass.
    Maynooth M4

    There are planning on the Nass bypass
    Also another interchange will be built on the M7 if the outer ring road goes ahead. So yet again MYOB you fail to see the reality here. The Motorway vs HQDC is just another stupid fad argument.


    If the road is up to spec and is a motorway it should be.
    If the road is not up to the spec of a motorway then it shouldn't be.

    This is not the issue here with the Limerick soutern Ring road. There is no issue. The road is a motorway. The only reason it's not been made motorway is because of some nut cracker in authority just saying no to reclassifcation. There is no law to say that they can't build another interchange onto the motorway.


    There is something's that don't need to be explained by law. It's common sense. There is no developer going to build a interchange on the Limerick bypass. There are many interchanges provided. There would be no logic in any developer wanting to build one where there is plenty of access to the motorway. Can you name a developer that would want to build one? Seriously? Like lets look at this with an open mind here and stop falling into the BS arena with the laws. The laws is not the problem. There is no problem. It's like the Athlone bypass again, people panicking that developers are going to build an interchange on it. They never did. And this is the fact of the matter.

    The only problem with the Limerick bypass is there is no proper access from the M20 to the city NB. That is it. This is not a specification or minor development issue.


    This is an issue with appeals from mad people who don't want it to be motorway. Anyway the planning won't see any lee way to let any developer build another interchange on this bypass. If they do, they obviously shouldn't be working in planning.


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    #141
    mysterious
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    Chris_533976 wrote: »
    I know the roundabouts (all connected by DC) in Galway dont really count, but there is so much bloody private access on them that its ridiculous. That cant be made motorway for obvious reasons.

    Chris, that is because that is not a HQDC. It's a standard DC that was built in phrases over 10 years. Most of the bypass is made up of different roads joining to make the bypass of Galway.

    This really does not count.


    Not every road has to be a motorway.


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    #142
    Amtmann
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    Back on topic lads. And a word to the wise: If I read anything along the lines of "I want my blue road :rolleyes:" on this forum, the person who wrote it is a gonner.


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    #143
    Sponge Bob
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    Furet wrote: »
    If I read anything along the lines of "I want my blue road :rolleyes:" on this forum, the person who wrote it is a gonner.

    Just a thought really rather than an ask.

    Will Tractors be let into the tunnel or not ???


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    #144
    The Word Is Bor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭The Word Is Bor


    I don't want my green road


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    #145
    Tech3
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    I dont know if this was mentioned before but a cantilever has been put up approaching the dock rd interchange heading westbound. It is hard to see it from my second picture taken on the previous page.


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    #146
    L1011
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    mysterious wrote: »
    Thats balony, They wouldn't get permission.

    Mahon Point did. Hence my example of the Cork SRR.
    mysterious wrote: »
    God people think the powers of be are above the law even if the laws don't make sense. They built interchanges on many motorways

    Nenagh bypass.
    Maynooth M4

    The M4 interchange was built by Kildare County Council to serve a new inter-town link road, not by private developers or for private developers. It was co-funded by an *existing* private entity who wanted improved access.


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    #147
    Chris_533976
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    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Just a thought really rather than an ask.

    Will Tractors be let into the tunnel or not ???

    Probably not, similar to the Lee Tunnel.

    Similar to the Lee tunnel however, they will probably use it anyway and it will be unenforced.


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    #148
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Mysterious, welcome back. Its been a while.

    Furet, rule this forum like a king!

    On topic, is it just me or does this tunnel take an insane amount of time to build!


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    #149
    clon
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭clon


    http://www.limericktunnel.com/Downloads/Autumn2009.pdf

    new autumn newsletter for the limerick tunnel.Shows some photo's inside tunnel itself.


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    #150
    bacon&cabbage
    Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭bacon&cabbage


    clon wrote: »
    http://www.limericktunnel.com/Downloads/Autumn2009.pdf

    new autumn newsletter for the limerick tunnel.Shows some photo's inside tunnel itself.

    At lot of work going on at B01 Rosbrien interchange, looks like some part of this bridge will be open very shortly to facilitate on going works at this interchange.

    According to the newsletter it will be November.

    Considering how slow N to L is going, any bit of new road (however small) is welcome :)


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    #151
    Nath
    Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭Nath


    Anyone have an estimate for when this scheme will open, the NRA website states Q4 2010 but I presume it will finish ahead of schedule?


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