Tommy Tiernan gets spanked again.

connundrum

Was surprised that this wasn't posted earlier. Saw it in today's Sun iirc.

Apparently in his live show in Vicars Street he is doing a gag about kids with Downs Syndrome, which probably includes impressions.

I can't find a linkeh at the moment.

Regardless, I've seen my fair share of comedians and I would find it hard to take offense to jokes. Now I personally don't have Downs Syndrome, nor do I have anyone close to me who is affected. My opinion might change if my circumstances were different, but I'd like to think they wouldn't. Being laid back with an open mind is something I'm renound for.

I remember being at a Des Bishop gig where he was cracking jokes about Ballymun as he'd just finished his TV program in which he'd lived in Ballymun for a while. One punter took offense to his jokes, stood up and told Bishop to fook off and then walked out. I think thats being a bit sensative, but then thats me.

Thoughts?

humbert

Seems a bit retarded to me.

Karoma

Down with that sort of thing.

kona

this guy has to be the most, un-funny person ive ever seen.
he says the grass is green, and everybody thinks its the best line ever.
hes a retard tbh, just runs around shouting. loo la:D

JæKæ

He did that gag at the Elec Picnic too. He was very offensive to all kinds. But it wnet down ok, apart from a few that walked out. There was some groaning and bad reactions, but mostly laughter

Toto Wolfcastle

There's a thread kind of about it in the Radio forum. They were talking about it on Monday's Joe Duffy.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055189878

Lands Leaving

kona wrote: »

this guy has to be the most, un-funny person ive ever seen.
he says the grass is green, and everybody thinks its the best line ever.
hes a retard tbh, just runs around shouting. loo la:D

Someone else, who doesn't like tiernan. My god I thought only I had sense.

lucyburn

kona wrote: »

this guy has to be the most, un-funny person ive ever seen.
he says the grass is green, and everybody thinks its the best line ever.
hes a retard tbh, just runs around shouting. loo la:D

Ah don't say that about Tommie, he's a comedy genius and very cute.
I can't help laughing at every joke he tells.
Some people are a bit over sensitive i think.
After all its only a joke.

OPENROAD

janeybabe26 wrote: »

There's a thread kind of about it in the Radio forum. They were talking about it on Monday's Joe Duffy.

Caller from Clontarf?

Karoma

janeybabe26 wrote: »

There's a thread kind of about it in the Radio forum. They were talking about it on Monday's Joe Duffy.

Behold your future, Tommy Tiernan haters: A caller into Joe Duffy's radio show! (If you haven't already.)

Toto Wolfcastle

OPENROAD wrote: »

Caller from Clontarf?

Worse...Brendan O Carroll!

I wasn't at the gig. But from the descriptions it sounds to me like he was making fun of the way people treat people with downs syndrome, as opposed to the suffers themselves.
I have a friend with a speech impediment, and well meaning people can be so incredibly conscending. Assuming that he is mentally slow and treating him like a three year old.
Often I have seen him take advantage of these saps to get away with murder or make fools of them, and I think that is the angle Tommy was coming from.

Zapp Brannigan

I've seen the gag. He does go a bit far but it's really just a lash out at the PC brigade. I mean, Tommy does alot of work with Down Syndrome charities, he's hardly taking a pop at them. By the way we do have a Stand-Up Comedy forum... click my sig

biko

Tiernan rocks, mind I haven't seen this Downs thingy yet.
Curious, when was he spanked last time?

King John V

Of course he's 'taking a pop at them'. What else would you call him imitating the way they speak. I'm usually very open minded when it comes to comedy but this reminds me of the school bully; someone jeering and insulting the defenseless:(

Toto Wolfcastle

King John V wrote: »

Of course he's 'taking a pop at them'. What else would you call him imitating the way they speak. I'm usually very open minded when it comes to comedy but this reminds me of the school bully; someone jeering and insulting the defenseless:(

Defenseless? I'm sure there are many people with Down's Syndrome who cannot defend themselves, but there are many who can.There are also many people without Down's Syndrome who can't defend themselves, and many who can.

I don't know what Tommy said, so I can't say whether I think it was wrong or not, but to say that people with Down's Syndrome cannot defend themselves is a bit much.

I know a few people with Down's Syndrome, and they'd all be quick to defend themselves if they felt hard done by, and they would do so articulately and with intelligence.

Of course, I'm not saying that all people with Down's Syndrome can defend themselves, and I'm not saying that what Tommy said was right or wrong, but you can't just generalise like that.

Genghiz Cohen

I don't find him funny, I don't find him offencive.

Binomate

King John V wrote: »

Of course he's 'taking a pop at them'. What else would you call him imitating the way they speak. I'm usually very open minded when it comes to comedy but this reminds me of the school bully; someone jeering and insulting the defenseless:(

Have you seen the act?

WhiteWashMan

i think hes bloody funny.

the gaga bout the pub in galway that takes off when the music is at its peak.

the loine about kids being 'fanta filled ****ers' that just had me institches.
its funny coz its true...

Zapp Brannigan

janeybabe26 wrote: »

Defenseless? I'm sure there are many people with Down's Syndrome who cannot defend themselves, but there are many who can, just like there are many people without Down's Syndrome who can't defend themselves.

Ms. South Carolina answer right there!

Papergirl 1

Ah come on Tommy is bloody hilarious! One of the best stand up comedians around at the minute! And he's a hottie!!

Toto Wolfcastle

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Ms. South Carolina answer right there!

I'm not sure I agree but fixed all the same. (And yes, I am aware that it wasn't fixed in the quote box!)

King John V

I visit a care home with people with down syndrome every week.Despite varying degrees of disability they certainly wouldn't articulate sharp witty responses were I to start slagging them off. Can young infants with down syndrome defend themselves adequately against someone far more street wise? Certainly not. Its morally insensitive to all of them and their families even if some can defend themselves.

No I havn't seen the gig but read news reports and heard the Joe Duffy show a few days ago.

Karoma

biko wrote:

Curious, when was he spanked last time?

It's not the first time Tommy has taken the piss out of differently-abled people

Toto Wolfcastle

King John V wrote: »

I visit a care home with people with down syndrome every week.Despite varying degrees of disability they certainly wouldn't articulate sharp witty responses were I to start slagging them off. Can young infants with down syndrome defend themselves adequately against someone far more street wise? Certainly not. Its morally insensitive to all of them and their families even if some can defend themselves.

I am sure you are right when you say the people you meet cannot defend themselves, but you are talking about one care home vs the rest of the world.
Also, I doubt it is just infants with down syndrome who cannot defend themselves. I doubt any infant could!

Lands Leaving

Wow, he's making noises. How funny.

How is that man popular. HOW????

King John V

Well actually I can generalise beyond one care home as I'm doing first class honours in psychology and have knowledge of it in connection with applied behavioural analysis. Sarcastically refering to all children as equally defenseless is hardly very productive:p

I have nothing against Tommy Tiernan. I actually thinks he's a good comedian but he got it wrong this time.

Toto Wolfcastle

King John V wrote: »

Well actually I can generalise beyond one care home as I'm doing first class honours in psychology and have knowledge of it in connection with applied behavioural analysis. Sarcastically refering to all children as equally defenseless is hardly very productive:p

I have nothing against Tommy Tiernan. I actually thinks he's a good comedian but he got it wrong this time.

Dude you are my new best friend! I'm doing an exam in behavioral psychology next week! Tell me everything you know!

And just so you know, I wasn't being sarcastic. I was stating a fact. If it was sarcasm, I would have used this: :rolleyes:

Tommy Tiernan shouts a lot. I find that to be offensive!

King John V

we're probably doing the same exam:D ABA on Tuesday. Instead of studying for that here we are banging heads over Tommy Tiernan...sigh. For round 2 what are your views on Patt Shortt?

BrandonBlock

Whatever about it being offensive or if he's crossed a line, bla bla, etc - It is causing controversy (which he probably intended doing) and publicity (just turned on the radio tonight and there was a discussion about him on fm104) then I log on here and people are talking about him. The old saying goes "There is no such thing as bad publicity" and it very much applies here. The man is a genius, and by discussing him and his jokes here you are doing exactly what he wants you to. Well done.

biko

Karoma wrote: »

It's not the first time Tommy has taken the piss out of differently-abled people

They speak funneh Down there

stardust_dublin

BrandonBlock wrote: »

Whatever about it being offensive or if he's crossed a line, bla bla, etc - It is causing controversy (which he probably intended doing) and publicity (just turned on the radio tonight and there was a discussion about him on fm104) then I log on here and people are talking about him. The old saying goes "There is no such thing as bad publicity" and it very much applies here. The man is a genius, and by discussing him and his jokes here you are doing exactly what he wants you to. Well done.

agree with you 100%

Fighting Irish

lol @ pussyhurt people who complain about **** like this

i say if its comedy then anything goes, ireland is turning into america

Fighting Irish

oh yeah and i don't really like tommy t that much

Peteee

I was at his gig on saturday night. Found it all hilarious.

If your going to get offended at a comedy gig, then please stay at home.

Funny how nobody is going on about his chinaman expressions or wheelchair jokes or knacker jokes. Oh no, thats all hilarious and in good taste, but when he starts making jokes about kids with Downs Syndrome (With whom he works with) everyone goes ballistic. Nonsense.

Its like Chef on South Park. Make jokes about everyone elses religion, but make jokes about my (Isaac Hayes) religion, then its not funny, its offensive. Again, pure nonsense.

dfx-

Anyone who causes the wrath of the Joe Duffy show is a person who deserves the freedom of the country:cool:

PeakOutput

havnt heard he gag or read the whole thread but imo nthing is out of bounds when it comes to comedy and i mean nothing.

Nick_oliveri

Yes PeakOutput i believe you are right. How is it ever to evolve if the piss isnt taken. Some crap is funny and some isn't. We laugh at something or someone and move on, the next comedic fad if you will.

I really dont give a crap if someones jiving about paddys and spuds, as long as its in the context of good presentation and delivery.

kaimera

Peteee wrote: »

I was at his gig on saturday night. Found it all hilarious.

If your going to get offended at a comedy gig, then please stay at home.

Funny how nobody is going on about his chinaman expressions or wheelchair jokes or knacker jokes. Oh no, thats all hilarious and in good taste, but when he starts making jokes about kids with Downs Syndrome (With whom he works with) everyone goes ballistic. Nonsense.

Its like Chef on South Park. Make jokes about everyone elses religion, but make jokes about my (Isaac Hayes) religion, then its not funny, its offensive. Again, pure nonsense.

Bang on good sir.

Was there Sat night and by good did I lollersnot a few times during the show.

GTFO if yer going to be a sensitive type at a comedy gig.

BurnsCarpenter

Peteee wrote: »

I was at his gig on saturday night. Found it all hilarious.

If your going to get offended at a comedy gig, then please stay at home.

Funny how nobody is going on about his chinaman expressions or wheelchair jokes or knacker jokes. Oh no, thats all hilarious and in good taste, but when he starts making jokes about kids with Downs Syndrome (With whom he works with) everyone goes ballistic. Nonsense.

Its like Chef on South Park. Make jokes about everyone elses religion, but make jokes about my (Isaac Hayes) religion, then its not funny, its offensive. Again, pure nonsense.

I'm not sure it's much of a defence that he does charity work with Downs syndrome kids. Doesn't that just make it worse somehow? "solid gold comedy material here".

watna

Lands Leaving wrote: »

Wow, he's making noises. How funny.

How is that man popular. HOW????

I saw him on tv and thought he was hilarious. Then I went to see him in Vicar Street (about two years ago) and it was just not funny. The person I was with and I just kept looking at each other puzzled while everyone around us fell around the place laughing. It's the only comedy gig I've been to where I didn't laugh once.

*Lees*

watna wrote: »

I saw him on tv and thought he was hilarious. Then I went to see him in Vicar Street (about two years ago) and it was just not funny. The person I was with and I just kept looking at each other puzzled while everyone around us fell around the place laughing. It's the only comedy gig I've been to where I didn't laugh once.

+ 1

I also saw him about 2 years ago in the Marquee in Cork! Before that I loved him but for some reason I just didn't find him that funny that night!! They must fill the place with laughing gas or something when he's doing a show!!!
I was a bit shocked at some of the things he joked about but saying that I wasn't offended...

Peteee wrote: »

If your going to get offended at a comedy gig, then please stay at home.

Funny how nobody is going on about his chinaman expressions or wheelchair jokes or knacker jokes. Oh no, thats all hilarious and in good taste, but when he starts making jokes about kids with Downs Syndrome (With whom he works with) everyone goes ballistic. Nonsense.

Its like Chef on South Park. Make jokes about everyone elses religion, but make jokes about my (Isaac Hayes) religion, then its not funny, its offensive. Again, pure nonsense.

+ 1!!!!:cool:

beans

I would love to see a transcript of what was actually said. Does any know, could they paraphrase?

Seems like no-one can see past the subject to the actual content. Lots of people making judgement calls based on emotion rather than fact here by the sounds of things

Schlemm

kona wrote: »

this guy has to be the most, un-funny person ive ever seen.
he says the grass is green, and everybody thinks its the best line ever.
hes a retard tbh, just runs around shouting. loo la:D

+1

kaimera

beans wrote: »

I would love to see a transcript of what was actually said. Does any know, could they paraphrase?

Seems like no-one can see past the subject to the actual content. Lots of people making judgement calls based on emotion rather than fact here by the sounds of things

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54510602&postcount=8

zootroid

Peteee wrote: »

I was at his gig on saturday night. Found it all hilarious.

If your going to get offended at a comedy gig, then please stay at home.

Funny how nobody is going on about his chinaman expressions or wheelchair jokes or knacker jokes. Oh no, thats all hilarious and in good taste, but when he starts making jokes about kids with Downs Syndrome (With whom he works with) everyone goes ballistic. Nonsense.

Its like Chef on South Park. Make jokes about everyone elses religion, but make jokes about my (Isaac Hayes) religion, then its not funny, its offensive. Again, pure nonsense.

I agree with you, but the only thing I find with Tommy Tiernan is that he can be very hit and miss. I've seen him live about 3-4 times, sometimes it was very funny, other times i barely laughed.

I think he does the whole "if I shout it will make it funnier" trick far too often. Some of his material is good, funny observations about our society. But some of it is poor, coming out with something outrageous just to get a reaction. But it's comedy, so people should expect something offensive. Whether they find it funny is a different matter. And if people didn't pay any attention to what offends them it would be a nothing story, with zero publicity, and then it might force comedians to come up with good material.

TerrorFirmer

kona wrote: »

this guy has to be the most, un-funny person ive ever seen.
he says the grass is green, and everybody thinks its the best line ever.
hes a retard tbh, just runs around shouting. loo la:D

I agree completely with this.

King John V

well even if its distasteful its all a publicity stunt at the end of the day. Tommorrow it will be something else, bigger and pushing the limits more...amputee orphans in Africa or whatever:rolleyes:

*Page*

I was surprised to see him on the late late show...

therecklessone

Anyone who goes to a Tommy Tiernan gig deserves to be insulted.

ScumLord

Tommy Tiernan is a fuppen' legend! He's one of the top comics in the world and without a doubt the best Irish comic ever. Let the man say what he wants if you no likey no listen. Everyone here is always complaining about the pc brigade and when Tommy (the legend) Tiernan attacks them the first thing ye all do is run to the moral high ground and join them in they're fight.