Riots and Rebellions

Archeron

Lead us OP. Show us the light and tell us where and when, and I'm sure we will turn out en masse to express our outrage. In fact, I'm lighting a flaming torch as I type and I'm doing a crash course in effigy making in the local community school over the weekend.

Vive la bleedin' revolution.

Boston

I'm with you comrade.

ambro25

Am FR, will teach civic disobedience for modest consultant fees, just pm me :cool:

Feelgood

Archeron wrote: »

Lead us OP. Show us the light and tell us where and when, and I'm sure we will turn out en masse to express our outrage. In fact, I'm lighting a flaming torch as I type and I'm doing a crash course in effigy making in the local community school over the weekend.

Vive la bleedin' revolution.

Well firstly we need a name...something thats gonna install fear in em.....
How about the Irish Rebellionist Army or IRA for short?.

Robbo

ambro25 wrote: »

Am FR, will teach civic disobedience for modest consultant fees, just pm me :cool:

Within a 35 hour working week, naturally?

The Hill Billy

Feelgood wrote: »

Whos with me??.....molotov cocktails at the Dail??? are we on??:mad:

Feelgood wrote:

05 BMW 320 Sport....nice bus...car cost €19k....immaculate...add €10500 VRT and you get a certificate to say you've just got rid by the Irish government...

Yaw roysh! I can just picture an unruly mob of '05 BMW 320 Sport'-driving rioters turning up with their faces masked by cashmere scarves, baying for Brian Cowan's blood while kicking down the gates of the Dáil with their Italian loafers.

Feelgood

Hill Billy wrote: »

Yaw roysh! I can just picture an unruly mob of '05 BMW 320 Sport'-driving rioters turning up with their faces masked by cashmere scarves, baying for Brian Cowan's blood while kicking down the gates of the Dáil with their Italian loafers.

Theres an awful lot of BMW driver bashing going on in this thread...WTF?. Its only a car for fu*ks sake, its not a bleedin lifestyle choice. In fact you will find my car cost less than a VW Passat....or even a Kia Sorento....so does that make there drivers tossers too?....

ambro25

Robbo wrote: »

Within a 35 hour working week, naturally?

Ah nope, sorry to disappoint - I be a private sector consultant, a 35 hours working week being (in real life™) the preserve of civil servants

So, so long as ye pays, I teach (some of us are hard - nosed Kapitalists too, y'know!). Naturally, a bonus is payable to me on successful completion of the course, which completion is assessed on the basis of a bona fide full-blown governmental overthrow

Of course, the course is modular and some modules are entirely optional, to be chosen at the time of registration, such as guillotining and public transport sabotaging (rebate available on this module, not much to be done so not much to teach ).

The Hill Billy

Feelgood wrote: »

Theres an awful lot of BMW driver bashing going on in this thread...WTF?. Its only a car for fu*ks sake, its not a bleedin lifestyle choice. In fact you will find my car cost less than a VW Passat....or even a Kia Sorento....so does that make there drivers tossers too?....

Theres an awful lot of whingeing going on in this thread...WTF?. Its only AH for fu*ks sake, its not a bleedin Personal Issue. In fact you will find my post is just the sort of sarcastic crap that you expect to find in After Hours....or even in Beer Guts & Receding Harilines....so does that make there posters tossers too?....

Sonnenblumen

Feelgood wrote: »

Theres an awful lot of BMW driver bashing going on in this thread...WTF?. Its only a car for fu*ks sake, its not a bleedin lifestyle choice. In fact you will find my car cost less than a VW Passat....or even a Kia Sorento....so does that make there drivers tossers too?....

Remember the difference between Hedgehogs and BMWs? Well with the hedgehogs, the pricks are on the outside, with BMWs they're..........well you can guess?

SimpleSam06

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

Remember the difference between Hedgehogs and BMWs? Well with the hedgehogs, the pricks are on the outside, with BMWs they're..........well you can guess?

Smaller?

boneless

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Ah but we do a lovely pint of Guinness.

But for how much longer? Diagio would pull out of Ireland tomorrow if they thought their shareholders wanted them to...

DonJose

SimpleSam06 wrote: »

And yet you're buying a beemer and boasting of your prowess with the ladies... compensating for something smaller?

Thats not fair, I'm sure if feelgood slapped his langer on the keyboard it would go all the way from A to Z

Terry

Couldn't be bothered.
I can't afford a €20,000 car.

OP, pay someone to riot for you.

Neamhshuntasach

I just watched No Volverán, a documentary about Venezuela and it's amazing to see how the people get out and protest and do something. Us Irish moan and complain about everything but never put our words into action.

And we like to think history describes us as revolutionary and rebellious. Ha we're far from it. James Connolly and Jim Larkin couldn't even get huge support in comparison of our population back in 1913.

Ireland needs a socialist revolution and kick the minority ruling class out on its hole. Ireland for the people!

The Hill Billy

DonJose wrote: »

Thats not fair, I'm sure if feelgood slapped his langer on the keyboard it would go all the way from A to Z

Classic!

Feelgood

DonJose wrote: »

Thats not fair, I'm sure if feelgood slapped his langer on the keyboard it would go all the way from A to Z

Yep your right dude, if I got a piano keyboard and did that it probably would....

Though piano keys only run from A to G so its not really great for measuring to be honest....

Mr.Micro

The VRT was put in place to sting anybody who could afford a new car sometime ago as there were limited ways for the Revenue to get even more money ,the favourites being petrol ,cigs and alcohol.Unfortunately this sly and unfair, discriminatory double tax has stuck in there in bad and good times.Since the coffers are empty ,I cant see it being removed .So much for the EU where cars are a lot cheaper than rip off Ireland where everything is dearer it appears than in our EU partners countries

Sonnenblumen

boneless wrote: »

But for how much longer? Diagio would pull out of Ireland tomorrow if they thought their shareholders wanted them to...

Diageo are pulling out of Dublin and relocating to Balbriggan. Imagine how that'll taste?::eek:

Feelgood

Mr.Micro wrote: »

The VRT was put in place to sting anybody who could afford a new car sometime ago as there were limited ways for the Revenue to get even more money ,the favourites being petrol ,cigs and alcohol.Unfortunately this sly and unfair, discriminatory double tax has stuck in there in bad and good times.Since the coffers are empty ,I cant see it being removed .So much for the EU where cars are a lot cheaper than rip off Ireland where everything is dearer it appears than in our EU partners countries

I'm fairly young to be honest and am not that wise in the ways of politics, though I can seem to understand why there are no everyday normal people in the government. I mean they have to know about certain things that are pissing us all off??. If I had 50000 people coming to me and saying yeah I hate this country and I hate this and that, working in government I'd probably go out of my way to try and change things to make people happier?. How come that doesn't happen though?.

I'm not begruding like the rest of the mofo's on this thread, with regards to VRT if it disappeared then everyone would have the chance to be driving nice cars. Maybe we would all driver beemers and have top notch houses, loads of fancy holidays etc. All the government have to do is cut taxes here and there and give us an extra few quid to play with, but they wont why?. As stated I think its because we are not pushing them enough, we talk yada yada yada but it does absolutely nothing.

We put these fu*kers into power and they do nothing for us. I've thought of a
very simple solution....look at the popularity of boards.ie...loads of people expression their point of views and taking the time to respond to questions.

How about a website where the government posts a scenario, for example..

Dear Sir / Madam,
The price of a pint is going up 20 cents. Do you agree?. If you agree we
can open 2 new schools a year and maybe a hospital.

Please tick Y for Yes and N for No....

Everyone logs on ticks Y/N and hey presto, the people are running the country and not the government..all from the comfort of there own home. Obviously the above scenario in real life would be slightly more complex.

I just cant understand how the decision process is so complex on certain aspects of Irish government. Like us they are all bloody talk too.....

Pigman II

Feelgood wrote: »

Whos with me??.....molotov cocktails at the Dail??? are we on??:mad:

Yes, I can't believe your insurance was so high either.

Mr.Micro

The trouble is Feelgood that politicians dont answer truthfully face to face not to mention listen ,once they are elected .I do not think that they would respond to a questionnaire even a short one .They do not generally care what the voters think only when its election time and then its just to get elected.

The Hill Billy

Feelgood wrote:

I'm not begruding like the rest of the mofo's on this thread...

Chill out FFS. This is AH - most of the posters are just taking the mickey for the sake of it. It is nothing personal.

Feelgood wrote:

...with regards to VRT if it disappeared then everyone would have the chance to be driving nice cars. Maybe we would all driver beemers and have top notch houses, loads of fancy holidays etc. All the government have to do is cut taxes here and there and give us an extra few quid to play with, but they wont why?

Short answer - because it would push up inflation. But this would be better discussed in the Economics forum.

Feelgood wrote:

We put these fu*kers into power

Not me. I voted for the other lot. I'm just living with with the results of everybody else's shoddy voting.

Feelgood wrote:

How about a website where the government posts a scenario, for example..

Dear Sir / Madam,
The price of a pint is going up 20 cents. Do you agree?. If you agree we
can open 2 new schools a year and maybe a hospital.

Please tick Y for Yes and N for No....

Everyone logs on ticks Y/N and hey presto, the people are running the country and not the government..all from the comfort of there own home. Obviously the above scenario in real life would be slightly more complex.

E-voting. Don't go there!

Feelgood wrote:

I just cant understand how the decision process is so complex on certain aspects of Irish government. Like us they are all bloody talk too.....

Too true. Just look at the French. Now those boys & girls know how to strike & have a good ol' fashioned riot.

The Hill Billy

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

Diageo are pulling out of Dublin and relocating to Balbriggan. Imagine how that'll taste?::eek:

Not being from Balbriggan - I wouldn't know.
Care to tell us?

Feelgood

Mr.Micro wrote: »

The trouble is Feelgood that politicians dont answer truthfully face to face not to mention listen ,once they are elected .I do not think that they would respond to a questionnaire even a short one .They do not generally care what the voters think only when its election time and then its just to get elected.

Yes but the point is that it is us that puts them there in that position, the reason they get there is because of us and their job should be to serve 'us'
the best that they can do and its not being done. I bet you there are a couple of hundred people on boards.ie alone that could run this country better (present self excluded).

You may or may not know that we have a very bad spiraling drugs problem in this country, teenagers popping pills as young as 13 and 14 now, my theory is that they have f**kall else to do, they can afford cars or insurance or even to run a car so basically between the age of 13 -say 19 they are dormant in a town, all week, every week.. Take my own town for instance, no cinema, no youthclub, not much sports amenities, in fact there is nothing to do for young people, but there are 20+ pubs and about 20+ drug dealers that they have access to every night of the week.

Does no one else find it slightly f**ked up that out younger generation can get Class A narcotics and alcohol quicker than they can get a house, car or even a game of tennis for that matter???. Then people are saying "oh the youth of today are out of control", could you blame them they have nothing bloody else to do?.

Sinfonia

Feelgood wrote: »

Does no one else find it slightly f**ked up that out younger generation can get Class A narcotics and alcohol quicker than they can get a house, car or even a game of tennis for that matter???. Then people are saying "oh the youth of today are out of control", could you blame them they have nothing bloody else to do?.

What? Are you saying houses should cost less than drugs?

As for other things to do, it's not that hard to get 10 people together in a field with a football. Establish all the youth sport centres you want, if people want drugs, they'll get drugs. Boredom is not the only reason people take drugs.

Why should we riot? Because the price of tax for your car displeased you?
You have this idea of rioting, where's it going to get you? What are your demands? You seem to have neither a coherent plan nor any knowledge of what it takes to run a country.
What happens after you throw molotov cocktails at the Dáil? You don't even know what you want.
Learn something about what you're trying to say before you label the entire nation as "just too bloody lazy to do anything about it". Some people might not agree with your politics. Environmentalists surely wouldn't appreciate you driving around in a 3 series BMW.

Feelgood wrote:

I'm not begruding like the rest of the mofo's on this thread

My arse

Lands Leaving

Every country in the world has some sort of ridiculous taxes, etc. We have it better than most of the world to be fair, and yeah theres tons of things that need to be better, but progress is a slow process. Cheer up. at least you have a car. I'm in debt just from replacing my stolen bike.

Bloody doom-monger