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Are women habitual liars?

  • 19-11-2007 1:50am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭


    Think about it, before you even speak to a woman how much of what you see can you trust?

    -High heels - not that tall
    -Fake tan - not that dark
    -make up - not that pretty
    -push-up bra - not that amply bosomed
    -fake nails, fake eyelashes, dyed hair

    and lets not even start on the possibility of cosmetic surgery!

    How can we men trust anyone who's told about 5, if not more, lies, before they open their mouths!!! Help me out!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭Statso


    Found out the one you took home from the club wasn't the pick of the bunch when she took her clothes off did we?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Stay single and leave the lying wenches to the rest of us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    Well most women seem to be deluded into believing their supposed to look like photoshopped images in magazines so they go out and photoshop themselves.

    Its a little more expensive and painful in real life though I imagine.

    BTW, you could probably say the same for men. Men shave to appear more attractive to the opposite sex when if they didn't they'd be much hairier and they use anti-perspirant and deodorant to change the way they smell. They use hair gel to cover up that their hair looks like crap in the morning too.

    God aren't men awful!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    Statso wrote: »
    Found out the one you took home from the club wasn't the pick of the bunch when she took her clothes off did we?

    Only when I'm too drunk to notice the difference! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    I prefer my women au naturalle with little bit of makeup to enhance the good looks.

    I don't mind the fake eyelashes/nails thing, i think it brings style. High heels on a girl is classy, enhances the wiggling of the bosom :D

    What i do hate is the dyed blond hair look which has been widespread since the 80s, FFS girls it makes you alot worse looking, ye are making yersleves look ugly!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭l3LoWnA


    Think about it, before you even speak to a woman how much of what you see can you trust?

    -High heels - not that tall
    -Fake tan - not that dark
    -make up - not that pretty
    -push-up bra - not that amply bosomed
    -fake nails, fake eyelashes, dyed hair

    and lets not even start on the possibility of cosmetic surgery!

    How can we men trust anyone who's told about 5, if not more, lies, before they open their mouths!!! Help me out!

    Would you prefer we go around in trainers, wearing no bra so our boobs are likely to go in any direction, no make-up - pale and looking tired, possibly bitten nails and nasty looking mop of hair and as white as a ghost? Jesus, at least women make an effort. What the hell, she looks like sh*t but at least she's honest!?!?!

    All of the above means a woman is prepared to put an effort in, proud of her appearance, eager to please.....amongst other things. Haha, must be horrible for a guy though to meet a girl who he thinks is perfect, gorgeous tits, long legs, sun-kissed skin, beautiful well-groomed hair, nice long nails, pretty face......who's not all that good looking/tall/amply bosomed in reality, bring her home, sh*g her and wake up in the morning to a short, chubby, ugly, droopy/flat boobed minger with no nails, bags under her eyes, blotchy fake tan and unruly hair! I'd say some lads get the shock of their lives but in saying that.....how many of ye don't have that morning sh*g when the girls true looks have been discovered?! :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    methinks the lady doth protest too much

    (always wanted to use that in an argument)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,573 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    l3LoWnA wrote: »
    Would you prefer we go around in trainers, wearing no bra so our boobs are likely to go in any direction


    Highlight of the post ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    A good looking girl doesn't need all those embellishments, an ugly girl does. I get bras keeping the boobs from goin everywhere, but no need to make a b cup look like a d, its just not fair on us lads to be that disappointed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭ian_m


    Women are habitual liars and they thrive from it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    ian_m wrote: »
    Women are habitual liars and they thrive from it.

    Interesting theory... do go on...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Thought you'd be used to Oompa-Loompas out there in Blackrock, loike?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    Bloody oompa loompas! The only use I can possibly think of for them (other than chocolate factory workers obviously) is marry one and live off her daddy's money.

    Live the dream!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭l3LoWnA


    A good looking girl doesn't need all those embellishments, an ugly girl does. I get bras keeping the boobs from goin everywhere, but no need to make a b cup look like a d, its just not fair on us lads to be that disappointed!


    Ahah! But, a good looking girl can always look better with a bit of work. As can a good looking guy! Ok, there are the very few natural stunners (both male and female) like myself ;) who need to do very little but still, not many girls look good in flat shoes/without their hair done and not many guys look good without a bit of a shave etc.

    I had a friend out with me on Friday night and she has little or no boobs to fill a bra with. I ended up with ONE of her VERY well padded bra's in my hand-bag for the night as when it was time for her to go home with her (reasonably new) boyfriend she ran into the ladies and whipped off one of the bra's so he wouldn't know :D I have to admit, even as a female, I didn't know bra's came THAT padded, it must have been nearly an inch thick - MASIVE padding! :eek: That must be annoying for lads! haha - but it's great the way we can trick them all the same ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,573 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I never had a problem with pale girls, i don't know what the whole tan is about.
    Pale Irish women are perfect without the makeup methinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    l3LoWnA wrote: »
    Ahah! But, a good looking girl can always look better with a bit of work. As can a good looking guy! Ok, there are the very few natural stunners (both male and female) who need to do very little but still, not many girls look good in flat shoes/without their hair done and not many guys look good without a bit of a shave etc.



    Its a fair point about shaving and such, and the high heels (but I'm short so it makes girls my height seem taller - grrrr!!:D) and doing your hair in a style is hardly that fake, but caking yourself in make up is a different story. So many girls look totally different when they get dressed up. Thats what I'm not into
    l3LoWnA wrote: »
    I had a friend out with me n Friday night and she has little or no boobs to fill a bra with. I ended up with ONE of her VERY well padded bra's in my hand-bag for the night as when it was time for her to go home with her (reasonably new) boyfriend she ran into the ladies and whipped off one of the bra's so he wouldn't know :D I have to admit, even as a female, I didn't know bra's came THAT padded, it must have been nearly an inch thick - MASIVE padding! :eek: That must be annoying for lads! haha - but it's great the way we can trick them all the same ;)

    Did she have the padded bra on when she first met the guy???


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    this is exactly why men beat women...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,573 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Did she have the padded bra on when she first met the guy???

    "Did that girl just deflate?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck


    Mordeth wrote: »
    this is exactly why men beat women...

    This post made the topic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Lirange


    kowloon wrote: »
    I never had a problem with pale girls, i don't know what the whole tan is about.
    Pale Irish women are perfect without the makeup methinks.
    Absolutely agree.

    As long as they're brunettes or dark haired women. Pale women with Goldilocks not to the same degree. A Ginge that's a paler & clammier shade of Tilda Swinton? That would be a firm Nyet Igor.

    I'd lock mine in a light deprivation dungeon if she ever fell for the tacky tan fad. Ivory skin is more feminine/youthful looking than that scaly outer lizard sheath that falsely tinted women seem to think is a mate magnet. Mediterraneans have a more natural olive complexion that enhances their looks. Irish women don't have it and never will. So accentuate the natural girls.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭uberpixie


    just head a quote on the radio: "a man's face is his autobiography, a woman's face is her work of fiction"

    Apt for this thread methinks:D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 313 ✭✭Dalfiatach


    brim4brim wrote: »
    Men shave to appear more attractive to the opposite sex when if they didn't they'd be much hairier and they use anti-perspirant and deodorant to change the way they smell. They use hair gel to cover up that their hair looks like crap in the morning too.

    Ha! I have little facial hair and only shave every 3/4 days; I hate the chemical stench of deodorants and never use them, just soap for me; and I've never used hair gel in me life, I just comb it and get a trim every 6 weeks or so. Perhaps this makes me more honest than most. Which is more attractive to you in a man, honesty or preening self-absorbed wankery?

    And then youse wonder why you keep ending up with asshole boyfriends :rolleyes:
    kowloon wrote: »
    I never had a problem with pale girls, i don't know what the whole tan is about.
    Pale Irish women are perfect without the makeup methinks.

    +1. Irish women look stupid with fake tans. They don't seem to realise Irish skin isn't meant to tan, and it just looks wrong. Plus those girls who lie on sunbeds 3 times a week to get a "real" :rolleyes: tan have horrible scaly lizard skin by the time they're 30. Take the hint girls, Irish wimmins are not meant to have tans!

    As for bottle blondes: yes girls, it is completely obvious; yes it does look stupid; no, actually most men prefer brunettes. Just stop it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    Dalfiatach wrote: »
    As for bottle blondes: yes girls, it is completely obvious; yes it does look stupid; no, actually most men prefer brunettes. Just stop it.

    The blonde is more shagging material. As in, shag em and leave em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    brim4brim wrote: »
    BTW, you could probably say the same for men. Men shave to appear more attractive to the opposite sex when if they didn't they'd be much hairier and they use anti-perspirant and deodorant to change the way they smell. They use hair gel to cover up that their hair looks like crap in the morning too.

    God aren't men awful!
    Shaving - just makes scrubbing away the dead skin easier as I hate the feeling of dried out dead skin!
    Anti-perpirant - hate the stuff, just use deodourant as I really hate the smell of my own stale sweat, yay cold winters!
    Hair gel - don't really use this, only hair products I bother much with are shampoo and conditioner.

    I would have to agree though that women waste too much time on all these pointless lies since sooner or later you're going to cop on to each and every one and if you really cared you'll be gone then, so if it's to impress the lads then it's but a stopgap in getting & keeping a lad. As such I can only hope there's some other reason, but to be honest when they don't stick to wearing all these in their own homes as much as they do when out I doubt very much that it's for their own good that they wear them (think about girls who have to put on makeup just to go to the shops yet it could be 5pm and they got through the rest of the day at home without any makeup).
    Throw in the case that, from what I've seen, the majority of Irish women haven't a clue how to wear makeup and instead cake the stuff on like an 'It' the clown mask so they can hide behind it instead of just using it to draw attention to their best features and that fake tans tend to be easy to spot at best, oompahloompah at worst, and it really does all just seem so daft to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    Think about it, before you even speak to a woman how much of what you see can you trust?

    -High heels - not that tall
    -Fake tan - not that dark
    -make up - not that pretty
    -push-up bra - not that amply bosomed
    -fake nails, fake eyelashes, dyed hair

    and lets not even start on the possibility of cosmetic surgery!

    How can we men trust anyone who's told about 5, if not more, lies, before they open their mouths!!! Help me out!

    True, but looks is all they have.
    They're basically egg-laying machines. ( Hence the term "hen-night" when they're about to get married )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    uberpixie wrote: »
    "a man's face is his autobiography, a woman's face is her work of fiction"
    I will be using that one.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    I get bras keeping the boobs from goin everywhere, but no need to make a b cup look like a d, its just not fair on us lads to be that disappointed!
    Why do you need big knockers to keep you happy? Miss your mammy do you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Think about it, before you even speak to a woman how much of what you see can you trust?

    -High heels - not that tall
    -Fake tan - not that dark
    -make up - not that pretty
    -push-up bra - not that amply bosomed
    -fake nails, fake eyelashes, dyed hair

    and lets not even start on the possibility of cosmetic surgery!


    .

    How can we men trust anyone who's told about 5, if not more, lies, before they open their mouths!!! Help me out!

    I find all that really strange, its obvious heels are making a girl look taller as you can quite clearly see that!! As for make up, tan, fake eyelashers and nails that is fairly obvious if you look too so really its not lying at all.

    Its not lying just emphasing their good points. After all make up can't make an unattractive woman beautiful, it will really only make them look worse.

    Theres an awful lot of fellas who coming across as really bitter, are you jealous that women can use all this stuff and you can't?


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    Yes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Its also a mistake to think that women do all these things for the sake of men when the majority of the time we really do it for our own well being. I really couldn't care less if people think I look too made up or am towering over the blokes!!! I feel good and thats all that matters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    Lux23 wrote: »
    Its also a mistake to think that women do all these things for the sake of men when the majority of the time we really do it for our own well being. I really couldn't care less if people think I look too made up or am towering over the blokes!!! I feel good and thats all that matters.

    But what about it makes you feel good?


    by the way this thread is bullcrap if they didn't try to look pretty there would be a thread about ugly asss skanks dont even bother to look nice.

    and a thread like this wouldn't be complete without the obligatory hamlet pronouncement on women
    "I have heard of your paintings too, well enough; God
    has given you one face, and you make yourselves
    another: you jig, you amble, and you lisp and
    nick-name God's creatures, and make your wantonness
    your ignorance."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Rob_l wrote: »
    But what about it makes you feel good?



    I don't know. Its just something that women love to do and we have been since we discovered mirrors. All the little rituals just make me feel confident and at ease with facing the day.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    yes, because you are so insecure you don't think you're good enough as you are

    that's pretty pathetic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Lux23 wrote: »
    I don't know. Its just something that women love to do and we have been since we discovered mirrors. All the little rituals just make me feel confident and at ease with facing the day.

    Which does make it sound like you are relying upon hiding behind the mask to deal with the rest of the world, that your make-up is your water wings for the pool outside the door of your house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    Chris Rock talks about this, and concludes that men lie the most, but women tell the biggest lies:

    You know what a man's lie is like?
    A man's lie is like, ''l was at Tony's house."
    "l'm at Kenny's house.'' That's a man's lie.
    A women's lie is like, ''lt's your baby.''

    We've all heard that one.

    -''lt don't even look like me.''
    -''Oh, he's got your hat.''


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I think irish boys should start wearing high heels and fake tan and make up.

    Short, ugly, pale, acne ridden - irish boys in a nutshell*


    *yeah, I'm not a model either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    Women dress alike all over the world: they dress to be annoying to other women.
    -- Elsa Schiaparelli


    Im not going to jump on the bandwagon here and start abusing women
    we all know outwardly appearance is very important and not just in women

    Would you trust a doctor who wore a shell suit every day
    a lawyer who looked scruffy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    biko wrote: »
    I think irish boys should start wearing high heels and fake tan and make up.

    Short, ugly, pale, acne ridden - irish boys in a nutshell*


    *yeah, I'm not a model either.

    So we're ugly as sin, at least we don't lie about it with cosmetics and such, the woman knows full well that the children will probably have faces not even a mother could love, whereas when a man meets an apparently attractive who knows what her original face is and what the likelihood of little troglodyte kids being the future spawn.:p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    yeah, the thread isn't about bitching at wqomen because they're ugly.. it's about bitching at them because they're lieing about being good looking.

    totally different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    Mordeth wrote: »
    yeah, the thread isn't about bitching at wqomen because they're ugly.. it's about bitching at them because they're lieing about being good looking.

    totally different.

    they didn't lie you just didn't look good enough
    its liek the way you find a diamond ina lump of coal
    or some other such useless analogy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Rob_l wrote: »
    they didn't lie you just didn't look good enough
    its liek the way you find a diamond ina lump of coal
    or some other such useless analogy

    You have it the wrong way around, in this case it's more akin to hauling all your gold down the mountain to find out that not all that glitters is gold (horay for iron pyrite).:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Mordeth wrote: »
    yes, because you are so insecure you don't think you're good enough as you are

    that's pretty pathetic

    You could look at it like but I for one know that most men would use all these embellishments if it were socially acceptable. Thats isn't the least bit pathetic, its called humanity!!

    But your opinion simply doesn't matter to me, do you get that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Lux23 wrote: »
    You could look at it like but I for one know that most men would use all these embellishments if it were socially acceptable. Thats isn't the least bit pathetic, its called humanity!!
    Thankfully I am not most men so, and I know many others who have no problem with being rather scruffy, so I'd imagine that they wouldn't bother with such either. So don't worry ladies, there are still some real men hidden among the metrosexuals.:p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    *scratches the face he hasn't shaved in 3 months*

    yep, I wish it was socially acceptable to shave this dirty thing. I just want to be beautiful :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    Feck those lying skanks, come on guys lets all have sex with each other instead, that'll show 'm!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Mordeth wrote: »
    *scratches the face he hasn't shaved in 3 months*

    yep, I wish it was socially acceptable to shave this dirty thing. I just want to be beautiful :(

    Have you started using it to stockpile foodstuffs yet? If not I know some lads that are worse than you.

    azezil wrote: »
    Feck those lying skanks, come on guys lets all have sex with each other instead, that'll show 'm!

    You'd do anything just to see a lesbian kiss:rolleyes:... you do know there are DVDs you can buy of this kinda stuff, you don't have to resort to any rampant gay sex to see such these days?:p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    food no, but I do store some milk droplets in there and when I'm too lazy to go to the fridge I just suck on the beard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Ah yes... the minefield that is cornflakes in milk when you have a beard...;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 317 ✭✭stratospheres


    :eek:
    I don't wear fake tan
    I don't spend ages styling my hair everyday
    I hardly ever wear make up
    I hardly ever wear high heels

    OH NOES!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    l3LoWnA wrote: »
    I had a friend out with me on Friday night and she has little or no boobs to fill a bra with. I ended up with ONE of her VERY well padded bra's in my hand-bag for the night as when it was time for her to go home with her (reasonably new) boyfriend she ran into the ladies and whipped off one of the bra's so he wouldn't know :D I have to admit, even as a female, I didn't know bra's came THAT padded, it must have been nearly an inch thick - MASIVE padding! :eek: That must be annoying for lads! haha - but it's great the way we can trick them all the same ;)

    It's called a 'wonder bra' due to the fact that when a man removes one he's
    left wondering where the 'cleavage' has gone. There are plenty of women
    out there that should be done for false advertising.


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