Youtuber posting before 7+ dead in Finnish school shooting

wil

http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKHEL00597220071107
A youtuber posted massacre warning hours before shooting spree.
Taking "Broadcast yourself" a bit far?
"Jokela High School Massacre - 11/7/2007"
The vid seems to have been removed and others locked but the 91 vids listed from him speak loads. I presume the list will be removed also.

Most recent is that at least 7 dead.

I think someone predicted that after whatshisname (best forgotten) the next waste of space would probably post videos next for more self glorification.

Outer Bongolia

Surprised it took so long. Creepy but that's the way the world is going. Everyone has a voice nowadays, even those that shouldn't

Ciaran500

Its spelt "before"...

lostexpectation

well the use to post there manifestoes to newspapers today its bit more instant but no worse

Karoma

Ciaran500 wrote: »

Its spelt "before"...

Title edited.

wil

Karoma wrote: »

Title edited.

ciaran500 wrote:

Its spelt "before"....

The "b4" was intentional and I felt it was perfectly relevent to the subject in light of the age of the perpetrator, the context of a modern phenomena style school killing and the use of youtube to announce his intentions.

So far 7 children and a woman dead (5 boys, 2 girls and a teacher) and he himself is critically injured in hospital after shooting himself.
Why didnt he just do that bit first:rolleyes:
My sympathy to the victims.

Oh the angst, oh the world doesnt understand, oh the b0!lix,:rolleyes: its just another maladjusted creep looking for attention.

Had a quick browse through youtube, still has links, and there's loads of similar stuff to what he was posting. In fact although his account has been suspended and his videos blocked
"This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."
I wouldnt be surprised if he had other accounts, there's one that stands out, I wont mention it immediately as I dont want to start false rumours etc but it also has recently posted similar references, mostly very disturbing. Either that or some very likeminded individuals who need further investigation.:eek::mad:

Wertz

Anyone watching this material is giving the guy what he wants IMO, so I'm not going to bother.

Dave!

"The gunman, who had walked through Jokela High School firing into classroom after classroom with a .22-caliber handgun, is in hospital after wounding himself in the head."

Hah. I hope he's brought to justice now.

JohnnyStones

Wertz wrote: »

Anyone watching this material is giving the guy what he wants IMO, so I'm not going to bother.

+1
yeah what a w*nker.
Why don't these people just kill them selfs before killing innocent people.

Stercus Accidit

DaveMcG wrote: »

"The gunman, who had walked through Jokela High School firing into classroom after classroom with a .22-caliber handgun, is in hospital after wounding himself in the head."

Hah. I hope he's brought to justice now.

Finally one of these sh1tes will live long enough to get everything thats coming to them.

Experience the aftermath and the guilt.

is_that_so

Unfortunately he is now dead.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7082795.stm

Antamojo

The world should hold a global gasing for all these freaks
I'm glad he's not dead though so he can now be raped in jail


EDIT: Damn he's dead!

Jesus Wept

Ban youtube. :mad:

Dave!

JohnnyStones wrote: »

+1
yeah what a w*nker.
Why don't these people just kill them selfs before killing innocent people.

Makes it more difficult to kill people when you're dead.........

Anywho, news sites reporting that he died in hospital. Boo-urns.

JohnnyStones

DaveMcG wrote: »

Makes it more difficult to kill people when you're dead.........

Anywho, news sites reporting that he died in hospital. Boo-urns.

Yeah that's what i meant:)

WindSock

The-Rigger wrote: »

Ban youtube. :mad:

Yeah! If youtube didn't exist, this wouldn't have happened. It's definatley youtubes fault. People don't realise how dangerous the internet actually is.

doonothing

Ciaran500 wrote: »

Its spelt "before"...

It's spelt "it's"....

Mossy Monk

It's great when people correcting the spelling of others get it wrong themselves.

coolhandc

boreds wrote: »

Yeah! If youtube didn't exist, this wouldn't have happened. It's definatley youtubes fault. People don't realise how dangerous the internet actually is.

dont be ridiculous.i cant see how banning youtube prevents maniacs going through with such atrocities.it has happened for years over in the states.next your going to say lets ban all computer consoles.hell lets ban the internet altogether.

Dave!

methinks the sarcasm went right over your head........

thebman

Don't worry, someone will be stupid enough to actually blame Youtube for this. Some old granny and then some poor PR person for Google will have to explain (probably a thousand times over) that Youtube is not the only video site, that the users account was suspended soon after and that him posting on the Internet has nothing to do with shooting up a school.

Dave!

But... it's all those DOOM video games that you kids play on your commodore 64s! And your satanic music! It inevitably leads to underage sex and school shootings!

coolhandc

DaveMcG wrote: »

methinks the sarcasm went right over your head........

oh right!lol

wil

Wertz wrote: »

Anyone watching this material is giving the guy what he wants IMO, so I'm not going to bother.

Well in many ways I agree with you, but wouldnt stop me watching footage of 9/11 just because I know BinLiner feels he is owed royalties. I appreciate the difference between the news reports and self made videos, these are usually extremely boring only worth watching just to confirm how little these people have to say, and to ridicule their attempts to say it.
Their only way to "acheive" any kind of anything is by extremes of senseless violence.
I am more interested in what makes them tHick.

seamus

Just another pissed off teenager who thinks he's better than anyone else. It's a phase people, you get over it.

Smellyirishman

DaveMcG wrote: »

But... it's all those DOOM video games that you kids play on your commodore 64s! And your satanic music! It inevitably leads to underage sex and school shootings!

You're sarsactic, but when I was reading about this yesterday on BBC news (and wondering why I had not seen it on boards) they had a line something along the lines of "His video posted on youtube, with heavy-metal music playing, showed him doing blah blah blah..." are we still not over that?

beans

It's spelled "spelled" ffs

biko

seamus wrote: »

Just another pissed off teenager who thinks he's better than anyone else. It's a phase people, you get over it.

Unfortunately this teenagers' phase cost the lives of 8 other people.

tech77

beans wrote: »

It's spelled "spelled" ffs

Spelt is acceptable as either the past tense or the past participle of spell (as doonothing used it in the passive voice):

1) Past tense: He spelt the word. Spelled is also fine here as well.

2) Past participle (as used by doonothing in the passive voice): It's spelt "spelt".

See here

So doonothing you can have the last word..

beans

I should have spelled 'spelled' as 'spelt', as in "It's spelt 'spelled' ffs"

That would have shown him

Mossy Monk

Has Marilyn Manson been blamed yet? Always happens within 36 hours of the event.

tech77

beans wrote: »

I should have spelled 'spelled' as 'spelt', as in "It's spelt 'spelled' ffs"

That would have shown him

I won't tell doonothing..

wil

Ms Manson hasnt made an official denial yet so obviously he is directly to blame.:rolleyes:
Actually some youtubers are busy throwing stones at each other.
A bit of background from that interwebby thing, well youtube postings (not from news or anywhere else as I havent read any news on this yet other than that first link)

My take so far
This git seems to have been a Columbine/serial killer obsessive who trolled racist/fascist/atheist type youtube sites with his own brand of ProHitlr/ProStalin/Antinazi/antihumans mixed up sh1t. He wasnt much of a debater (4 letter restricted) and seems to have been badly troll baited. He had a couple of supporters including one Danish? 'girl'? (an requieted loveobject) a "spokesperson" for their own brand of crap.

One particular youtuber posted a video 4 months ago replying to stuff he had sent him, a sort of videoflaming and it attracted plenty of attention in that circle.
(He and the girl are now attracting much of the stone throwing)

"you are so stupid it borders on adorable" probably didnt go down well with him.
to quote some of the comments on the video by others

4 months ago
N* sounds like a four year old who has just discovered the word lard. His "arguments" were sad and amusing at the same time
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Maybe he will kill himself once he realizes he was a load that should of been swallowed
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J********* (9 hours ago)
N* has just been the shooter at a school shooting in Finland, Tuusula.
How intelligent do you guys think he is now?
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s*********d (8 hours ago)
You guys just inspired a school shooting!!!
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C**********s (8 hours ago)
looks like this N* guy got butthurt for losing an argument over the internet and decided to go on a real-life killing spree.. kind of makes sense. it's the next logical step after writing in all caps.
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1******d (7 hours ago)
N* has gone on killing spree in his Highschool.
1 woman is dead, and 4 are hurt.
the Finnish SWAT team is right now in the school, trying to take him down.
All those idiots who somehow see N* as a "intelligent", I am sorry to tell you.. But he is a idiot.

I am a little surprised at the amount of neonazi, serial killer adoration, racist type stuff on there but I dont think in any way that Youtube or any of these people is to blame for the actions of a madman. Reckon some will probably get a call from Interpol though.
Now Do no evil unless it's financially lucrative.

I dont blame Marilyn, we will probably find out he just didnt have big enough fonts.

Terry

http://retecool.com/uploads/mirrordir/Sturmgeist89.htm

The site he set up after his youtube account was suspended.
Takes a while to load. Probably due to traffic.

There's a rant on it, but the video links don't work.

WindSock

Did anyone see the clip? Was it in Finnish?

Dave!

Terry wrote: »

http://retecool.com/uploads/mirrordir/Sturmgeist89.htm

The site he set up after his youtube account was suspended.
Takes a while to load. Probably due to traffic.

There's a rant on it, but the video links don't work.

A comment on there,

"you'll never read this...but I'd pat you on the back if I could friend"

Hope the police get to that chap!