Mean Streak

kowloon

So i was in the pub the other night and someone i know was approached by a fella who she told sharply where to go, same girl was talking to a pair of fellas and completely blanked one, even when he was introduced to her by his mate who she was talking to.

So the point of debate, why are single women often so cut-throat and bitchy to fellas they dont fancy?
Any woman i know in a relationship is sound with the let down or will just chat away to a stranger, but a large proportion of single girls out on the pull have a mean streak a mile wide.
Any fella i know would be flattered if someone approached them, even if she was hideous, but the rejection wouldnt be so intently nasty.

alan4cult

Good name for a film.

leninbenjamin

kowloon wrote: »

So the point of debate, why are single women often so cut-throat and bitchy to fellas they dont fancy?

sounds like inbreeding to me.

Archeron

I ate my sister and then procreated with her.
That was good.

bronte

I blather away to whoever I meet...I suppose some girls can be a bit distant alright.

JohnnyStones

Slag's, bitches?

no manners?
that's the only reason i think of, maybe your man was a real fugly:eek:

kowloon

The thing is, shes otherwise a sound girl, so the "just a bitch" explanation falls down.
Its making me wonder about some of the wimmins ive met.

KIVES

Where piping hot scones offered as an enticement to chat idly? - that ice breaker has worked for me on several occasions - kind of creates a subtle sense of merriment...they don't know whether to reject you out of hand or try a little to see if your some kind of itinerant baker

leninbenjamin

kowloon wrote: »

The thing is, shes otherwise a sound girl, so the "just a bitch" explanation falls down.

or... while she may come across as a sound girl in reality she is a just a bitch at heart and your slant on the whole thing is arseways?

i still think it's inbreeding at the root cause of this. you know like dog breeds that have been inbred too much become highly strung, snap a lot and in general make to many high pitched noises? same principle here...

eroo

She is just a bitch when it comes to men!
Is she good looking?Nothing worse than a girl who knows how good looking she is...should be classified as a weapon of mass put downs..

An Citeog

Oh no, not this thread again!

OP, you don't wanna know what you've let yourself in for!

Edit: Just in case you're wondering what I'm talking about, clicky.

Archeron

KIVES wrote: »

Where piping hot scones offered as an enticement to chat idly?

That is one of the oddest things I've ever read.

KIVES

Archeron wrote: »

That is one of the oddest things I've ever read.

Odd yet depressingly true - you just can't make stuff like that up - some stiff cailins actually mellowed on being offered an requited treat

JohnnyStones

KIVES wrote: »

Odd yet depressingly true - you just can't make stuff like that up - some stiff cailins actually mellowed on being offered an requited treat

SCONES??

What's up with you and scones?:)

muffin's now a muffin would keep her interested

Scone

kowloon

An Citeog wrote: »

Oh no, not this thread again!

OP, you don't wanna know what you've let yourself in for!

Edit: Just in case you're wondering what I'm talking about, clicky.

Fook me, thats not how i meant it!
I'm just talking about SOME (one in particular) single womens behavior in a pub/club environment.
Its just strange seeing someone i KNOW to be sound engaging in this behavior, and being selective in its application, i've never seen her like that out of that environment.

Archeron

kowloon wrote: »

Fook me, thats not how i meant it!
I'm just talking about SOME (one in particular) single womens behavior in a pub/club environment.
Its just strange seeing someone i KNOW to be sound engaging in this behavior, and being selective in its application, i've never seen her like that out of that environment.

There are 5.5 billion of us and each of us has a story. Its a shame we cant all scribe our experience and use it to make others think......

Irish women have undeservedly high opinions of themselves.

emeraldstar

JohnnyStones wrote: »

SCONES??

What's up with you and scones?:)

muffin's now a muffin would keep her interested

Scone

Scones rock

alan4cult

emeraldstar wrote: »

Scones rock

Depends how long you cook them for or is it bake?

kowloon

Archeron wrote: »

There are 5.5 billion of us and each of us has a story. Its a shame we cant all scribe our experience and use it to make others think......

Elaborate....

Black Swan

kowloon wrote: »

So the point of debate, why are single women often so cut-throat and bitchy to fellas they dont fancy?

The pub and club scene sometimes breeds these attitudes for attractive girls, whereas in other places the same single girl might be more polite when approached? For example, some lads will not take a polite "no" for an answer, and keep pressuring a girl when she is not interested. After several waves of lads, some of which are the pressure type, the girl gets defensive and pops off at the next one that comes along (who might be a nice lad).

I've found that pubs (or Stateside bars) and clubs that cater to the younger set often have reputations as pickup joints, or what has been euphamistically called "meat markets." Although there are exceptions, you generally don't go to such places if you are looking to discover someone for a meaningful, long lasting relationship.

KIVES

emeraldstar wrote: »

Scones rock

Scones are like 'The Clash' of the Bakery scene...thank god somebody has an interest in preserving the cult status of these fiendishly refreshing culinary creations....WHITE SCONE IN HAMMERSMITH BAKERY

Rhyme

alan4cult wrote: »

Depends how long you cook them for or is it bake?

Bake.

Also, delicious.

JohnnyStones

KIVES wrote: »

Scones are like 'The Clash' of the Bakery scene...thank god somebody has an interest in preserving the cult status of these fiendishly refreshing culinary creations....WHITE SCONE IN HAMMERSMITH BAKERY

:D:D

Rock (cakes) ON

baztard

Too much hollyoaks and coronation st and tv in general I think. Some girls think because they see it on tv, thats how they should react in a real life situation. Others are just spoilt bitches. The same applies for an awful lot of lads.

connundrum

kowloon wrote: »

So the point of debate, why are single women often so cut-throat and bitchy to fellas they dont fancy?

Mainly because single women are cut throat bitches.

Laslo

kowloon wrote: »

So the point of debate, why are single women often so cut-throat and bitchy to fellas they dont fancy?

If your friend is nice to guys she fancies but doesn't have the grace to be nice to guys she doesn't fancy then she's not a nice person. It's that simple really. You can't be selective about the people you're nice to - you should at least be polite to people unless they give you a reason not to be. Not just because you think they can/can't offer you something. Sorry, your friend's a beeeeatch.

arybvtcw0eolkf

kowloon wrote: »

So i was in the pub the other night and someone i know was approached by a fella who she told sharply where to go, same girl was talking to a pair of fellas and completely blanked one, even when he was introduced to her by his mate who she was talking to.

So the point of debate, why are single women often so cut-throat and bitchy to fellas they dont fancy?
Any woman i know in a relationship is sound with the let down or will just chat away to a stranger, but a large proportion of single girls out on the pull have a mean streak a mile wide.
Any fella i know would be flattered if someone approached them, even if she was hideous, but the rejection wouldnt be so intently nasty.

Because a lot of Irish woman are just stuck up ol' cvnts. And East European women, while maybe hot are worse.

Best off sticking with townies and wenches from Darndale (and the likes). Far better in the sack, down to earth and nearly always a swallower!.

star-pants

connundrum wrote: »

Mainly because single women are cut throat bitches.

I take offense to that!! I'm a single female and I'm not a bitch. I'm always polite unless the guy just doesn't take a hint and even then I try and be nice.
I do agree that there are single women out there who are total cows just because they think they can.
Heck I was out with a friend of mine once (who's a lovely girl) and some guy was trying to talk to her and she totally blanked him... I actually apologised to him and said 'i'm sorry I don't think she's interested, she didn't mean to be rude'

But in general I like to think I'm nice to guys. Sure even if you're not interested - what's the harm in a chat.

Laslo

star-pants wrote: »

I do agree that there are single women out there who are total cows just because they think they can.

Unfortunately they give the good ones a bad rep. There are so many of them now, particularly in Dublin, that a lot of the time Dublin women are just all tarred with the same brush. It's not fair but that's life.

star-pants wrote: »

Heck I was out with a friend of mine once (who's a lovely girl) and some guy was trying to talk to her and she totally blanked him... I actually apologised to him and said 'i'm sorry I don't think she's interested, she didn't mean to be rude'

But she did mean to be rude. She was rude. Why did you apologise on her behalf?

connundrum

star-pants wrote: »

I take offense to that!! I'm a single female and I'm not a bitch. I'm always polite unless the guy just doesn't take a hint and even then I try and be nice.
I do agree that there are single women out there who are total cows just because they think they can.
Heck I was out with a friend of mine once (who's a lovely girl) and some guy was trying to talk to her and she totally blanked him... I actually apologised to him and said 'i'm sorry I don't think she's interested, she didn't mean to be rude'

But in general I like to think I'm nice to guys. Sure even if you're not interested - what's the harm in a chat.

I obviously was referring to other single women. No one should take offense from my comment as it was admittedly a harsh generalisation.

No more Mojitos from Connundrum

star-pants

Laslo wrote: »

Unfortunately they give the good ones a bad rep. There are so many of them now, particularly in Dublin, that a lot of the time Dublin women are just all tarred with the same brush. It's not fair but that's life.



But she did mean to be rude. She was rude. Why did you apologise on her behalf?

I agree - there are a lot of mean women.. I don't understand it to be honest. Unless the guy is being a complete tool there's no need for rudeness.

I was just embarrassed I guess - the guy didn't need to be blanked like that, he was only trying to talk to her. I felt bad for him and felt the need to apologise for it.

star-pants

connundrum wrote: »

I obviously was referring to other single women. No one should take offense from my comment as it was admittedly a harsh generalisation.

No more Mojitos from Connundrum

Nah I was half-joking pet -- I get where you are coming from though. And I didn't take much offense lol - I like to think I'm one of the nice ones!

stratospheres

emeraldstar wrote: »

Scones rock

No, you're thinking of rock buns!

Yes unfortunately there are a lot of stuck-up Irish girls!

Lands Leaving

Was just in denmark and the girls are far more open to conversation, no matter how good lookin they are, but thats a bit annoying in the long run, since you end up spending ages talking to a girl with a boyfriend. At least here you get an instant yes or no. If she talks to you it generally means she fancies you, and if she doesn't, her loss, move on to someone else

Sam Vimes

alan4cult wrote: »

Good name for a film.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0182310/

someone agrees with you

Lands Leaving

Oh and I'm trying that scones idea.:D

Laslo

Lands Leaving wrote: »

Was just in denmark and the girls are far more open to conversation, no matter how good lookin they are, but thats a bit annoying in the long run, since you end up spending ages talking to a girl with a boyfriend. At least here you get an instant yes or no. If she talks to you it generally means she fancies you, and if she doesn't, her loss, move on to someone else

You're a 'glass is half full' man, aren't you?

Kowloon are you from HK?

Why are most men in the irish single scene only interested in using you for their own sexual gratification, and are completely incapable of feigning the slightest interest in you.

A woman in a ltr is going to immediately file a fella chatting to her into the friend zone. Unless she is trying to use his attention for an ego-boost.
Personally when someone is clearly trying to pull you and your not interested, I think it is mean to string them along for your own entertanment.

A few times, I have been so utterly disgusted at being pawed that the very next person who comes within two feet of me is going to get flattened.And rather than launch into a tirade of abuse I have gritted my teeth and blanked them.

Jesus Wept

Mairt wrote: »

Because a lot of Irish woman are just stuck up ol' cvnts. And East European women, while maybe hot are worse.

Best off sticking with townies and wenches from Darndale (and the likes). Far better in the sack, down to earth and nearly always a swallower!.

Sage advice.

I wish to subscribe to your newsletter Mairt.

Laslo

Moonbaby wrote: »

Why are most men in the irish single scene only interested in using you for their own sexual gratification, and are completely incapable of feigning the slightest interest in you.

Maybe you're attracting the wrong men? Why not decide who you like and then go and chat them up? It's not really enough to complain about being chatted up by sleazebags and then not make any effort chatting up decent guys.

I think this is the whole issue with the dating game. 95% of the guys I know who are confident enough to take their chances chatting up a woman also happen to be the type of fellows you describe above. They're also the type of fellows who don't mind getting rejected or being made a fool of. They just move on to the next potential conquest.

On the other hand, most of the decent and perhaps more sensitive guys tend not to chat women up for fear of rejection.

It's a catch 22, particularly as men are expected to do the chatting up. I suggest an annual 'women chat up men night'!

simu

Unfortunately, you have to be mean to some men to get them to understand you're not interested. They ruin it for all the normal men.

Lands Leaving

Laslo wrote: »

It's a catch 22, particularly as men are expected to do the chatting up. I suggest an annual 'women chat up men night'!

Interesting idea, it'd be nice not to be the one making a fool of himself for once, let the women have a taste!:D

andrew

KIVES wrote: »

Where piping hot scones offered as an enticement to chat idly? - that ice breaker has worked for me on several occasions - kind of creates a subtle sense of merriment...they don't know whether to reject you out of hand or try a little to see if your some kind of itinerant baker

JohnnyStones wrote: »

SCONES??

What's up with you and scones?:)

muffin's now a muffin would keep her interested

Scone

every single thread i've looked at today! WHAT THE HELL!?

warm scones + strawberry jam Mmmm

Laslo

Maybe something subliminal is telling me this but I'd really love a scone.

Faith

From my point of view:

Some men can be really persistant, even when you've made it clear you're not interested. If you engage them, they think they're in with a chance and will NOT leave you alone. This can feel threatening to a woman and can be scary. Most women will have plenty of experience with these kinds of men, and will have learnt by now that the easier way to get them to píss off is just to ignore them completely. In a pub or club situation, many men can't tell the difference between innocent chatting and sexual attraction. Just because we talk to you, doesn't mean we want to sleep with you. Thus, to avoid the man in question having expectations of sex, we're forced to ignore them completely.

As for foreign women being more friendly and receptive, sorry guys, but it's just because you, being Irish, are a novelty to them. If they spend any lenght of time in Ireland, that's guaranteed to wear off and they'll behave like any other Irish woman.

Driver 8

The men who assume that any woman who speaks to them is interested in them in terms of either sex or a relationship mean a lot of Irish men get tarred with the same brush, and are treated as such by a lot of Irish women.

The women who blank Irish men or are consistently rude mean that a lot of Irish women get tarred with the same brush.

It's a cyclical thing

Laslo

Faith wrote: »

From my point of view:

Some men can be really persistant, even when you've made it clear you're not interested. If you engage them, they think they're in with a chance and will NOT leave you alone. This can feel threatening to a woman and can be scary. Most women will have plenty of experience with these kinds of men, and will have learnt by now that the easier way to get them to píss off is just to ignore them completely. In a pub or club situation, many men can't tell the difference between innocent chatting and sexual attraction. Just because we talk to you, doesn't mean we want to sleep with you. Thus, to avoid the man in question having expectations of sex, we're forced to ignore them completely.

As for foreign women being more friendly and receptive, sorry guys, but it's just because you, being Irish, are a novelty to them. If they spend any lenght of time in Ireland, that's guaranteed to wear off and they'll behave like any other Irish woman.

Are you suggesting that Irish women are only aggressive and nasty towards men when then men are being pushy?

John Mason

Mairt wrote: »

Because a lot of Irish woman are just stuck up ol' cvnts. And East European women, while maybe hot are worse.

Best off sticking with townies and wenches from Darndale (and the likes). Far better in the sack, down to earth and nearly always a swallower!.

MAIRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::eek:

but seriously OP tell your mate to chat me up some night when he is out, i havent been chatted up in years (i must be one of the fruggle ones):(:(:(

Black Swan

In So Cal the girls will occasionally ask the lads out, but I've not seen that happen much in bars or clubs out here. Happens elsewhere, like in javahouses or classrooms.

Wertz

Okay ladies so why do Irish women think that just because a bloke is talking to them in a pub/club that it's a come-on? Have you all just got overly high opinions of yourselves?


OP: the reason your friend and others like her are being like that is simple....life's too short, they're after spending all that time and money getting their hair and clothes right, then even more money to get out into a club and getting boozed up....the next 3 hours is their's, they're not going home alone....why should they waste even a second of that precious time in a conversation with someone who they don't fancy, sending out the wrong impression and possibly letting the big catch get away?
It's a selfish sort of desperation...