Steorn .. is it still around ?

2Scoops

One of Steorn's competitors recently called it quits. So many free-energy devices, so few patents... tragic.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/04/archer-quinn-calls-it-quits-you-may-have-been-able-to-prevent/

Belfast

2Scoops wrote: »

One of Steorn's competitors recently called it quits. So many free-energy devices, so few patents... tragic.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/04/archer-quinn-calls-it-quits-you-may-have-been-able-to-prevent/

Chances are none of them are going to succeed in the present climate

2Scoops

Belfast wrote: »

Chances are none of them are going to succeed in the present climate

I agree 100%.

Capt'n Midnight

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/09/industry_week.php
http://solveclimate.com/blog/20071219/1-watt-itunes-solar-energy-has-arrived

solar panels are now down to a dollar or two per watt so any "free energy" system needs to be very cheap to compete.

The first cordless drills running on capacitors are now available, charging time 45 seconds. Capacitors don't have the same limited charge/discharge cycles that batteries have. http://www.supercapacitors.org/
Fuel cells are another way to store electricity with more charge / discharge cycles than standard rechargeables which could push the tco down.

zod

whats this ??

http://freeenergytruth.blogspot.com/2008/12/steorn-talks-at-dit-main-points-for.html

Free energy technology development company Steorn today delivered a presentation and information on things to come regarding their technology - Orbo. The main bullet points at the talk were:

• This is the start of Orbo's commercialization process with a launch in 2009
• More highly credible independent validations agreeing with Steorn's findings will be published
• 300 engineers/companies to be involved in replicating the technology for themselves
• Specific designs / configurations / blueprints will be available to be built by engineers
• Steorn talks to take place in many tens of universities around the world over 6-9 month period
• Working designs have been built by Steorn
• Jurors now number 21 from the original 22

The public talk was hosted in room 134 of Dublin Institute of Technology and was attended by 30 or so people. Steorn CEO ( Sean McCarthy ) spoke to a very receptive audience about free energy topics, CoE (Conservation Of Energy) and more importantly discussed aspects of the upcoming Orbo technology.

Professor_Fink

Well, that blog is predisposed to believing Steorn, I think (check out the title). The videos from a talk they gave in UCD are here: http://blog.jfitzsimons.org/?p=118

I'm glad to say, they didn't get such an easy time.

John_C

zod wrote: »

Steorn talks to take place in many tens of universities around the world over 6-9 month period

There was a talk in UCD about 2 years ago and it was hilarious. The first question from the floor started: "I'm going to take as my opening assumption that this is all a pile of bollox.....".

InvisibleBadger

They seem to be still going. Last night they were featured in a Prime-time segment on innovation in Ireland.

Morbert

InvisibleBadger wrote: »

They seem to be still going. Last night they were featured in a Prime-time segment on innovation in Ireland.

I saw that....
"The key to Ireland's economic recovery is innovative companies like Steorn..."

We're screwed.

zod

InvisibleBadger wrote: »

They seem to be still going. Last night they were featured in a Prime-time segment on innovation in Ireland.

http://freeenergytracker.blogspot.com/2009/01/prime-time-steorn.html

CuLT

The boards.ie offices used to be just across from these guys.

...interesting group of people (I tried not to make eye contact).

lostexpectation

yeah i saw that, i couldn't believe it, they justification they gave was that the had made spin off products from the r+d, but as afaik i know the only other projects they worked on happened before they started down the road of perpetual motion and they haven't produced anything for years since.

Svenolsen

tak wrote: »

What a soft ride for Seánie boy there.
First question striking me is why he'd advertise in The Economist for independent scientists to check out his discovery.
I'd a said that New Scientist or Scientific American would be quicker and cheaper.

The ultimate Science magazine is "Nature":

http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090122/full/news.2009.50.html

If you REALLY think you have made such an earth shattering discovery as a "Perpetual Motion Machine" you do not place an ad in the Economist.

You submit your evidence to Nature magazine.

Poor guys were a bit deluded.

I'd go easy on them though.

Even the great mathematician Ada Lovelace,co-inventor of the computer,thought she had discovered a system for predicting
which horses would win the Derby:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace

Even the great can fall into error.

.

zod

oh .. whats this ?

http://www.steorn.com/

rgunning

Good God. Sounds like "we couldn't get the physicist to believe it, lets try with the engineers".

zod wrote: »

oh .. whats this ?

http://www.steorn.com/

Ice_Box

I for one welcome the return of the Orbo.

nyarlothothep

this is kind of turning into a chinese democracy affair ie really annoying.

Professor_Fink

How is this nonsense still going on? They seem to have gone off physicists awefully quickly.

CreepingDeath

Ice_Box wrote: »

Shaun Menzies, one of the Irish people who walked to the south pole last week, is one of the founders of Steorn.

I know this is over a year late, but that guy worked for us as a Java programming contractor for us. And he was useless.
A cocky English fecker who was addicted to the Silent Hunter 3 PC game.
We had no time for him at all, and his contract was not renewed.

nyarlothothep

that game rocks, he must have been cool

MarkTheChap

I've heard that is.

Belfast

It still not going anywhere.

Even if it works as they claim (I have no reason to believe one way or the other if it does).

It looks too much like a perpetual motion machine.

Unless the can explain where the energy is coming from and publish it is a peer reviewed journal and get the explanation accepted by the scientific community it will go no where.

Unless they can explain where the energy is coming from they will be called snake oil salesmen.

Joseph Newman http://www.josephnewman.com/ has been trying to push this idea since 1984 and is getting nowhere.

Unlike Steron Joseph Newman has a theory on where the energy is coming from.
He explain his theory in this video. His explaination start at 36minute and 20 second in the the video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3484490731703421398&hl=en

His theory is not peer reviewed or accepted by the scientific community.

and so is going no where.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Newman_(inventor)
"Newman's theories are in direct conflict with classical electrodynamics and have not been published in respected textbooks or peer reviewed journals."


if you are interested in this sort of thing there is lots of it in the link below., just do not expect to find it be used it the real world anytime soon.

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/

zod

Steorns 300 :

http://www.nolanchart.com/article6349.html

Mucco

Irish 'energy for nothing' gizmo fails jury vetting

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0624/1224249416758.html

Professor_Fink

Mucco wrote: »

Irish 'energy for nothing' gizmo fails jury vetting

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0624/1224249416758.html

Oh, what a surprise. I'm sure I didn't see that coming :-P

kdawwg

Anyone know where we can find details of the jury's findings??? Although Orbos been disproved it'd still be interesting to find where this magic energy was ACTUALLY coming from.

thebman

This is the only thing I could find out about the jury:
http://stjury.ning.com/forum/topics/where-are-the-other-jury?id=2720216%3ATopic%3A468&page=1#comments

Seems they never actually got a device after 2 and half years so called it quits.

Mucco

I wonder where they got their money from:

According to its 2006 accounts, which were provided by the company, Steorn's two directors, CEO Seán McCarthy and Michael Daly, shared over €350,000 in remuneration in 2006. Wages and salaries for 13 staff, including the directors, totalled a further €988,000.
Source: http://www.tribune.ie

At least they didn't kill anyone:
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/comments/papparticle2.html

zod

update

http://www.nolanchart.com/article6746.html

thebman

In fairness, its been years and there is still no decent info about this. Everyone has to assume its a scam until they actually make a worthwhile statement about it.

I was skeptical at first but gave them the benefits since they are Irish and have worked with colleges in Ireland in the past and held competitions etc.. and didn't have a bad past record. As time goes on, I'm getting more and more skeptical and I really would like to see something that either proves or disproves this shortly.

It certainly wasn't a marketing exercise as people said when it first came out.