Freshers Week????

Yazamalainia

hey,

Could someone maybe tell me what happens during freshers week besides all of the academic based stuff, i can't find it anywhere!!

thanks (woo trinity)

dan719

Societies compete for your membership and everyone gets roaring drunk.

After that everyone gets roaring drunk again.

And again.

And again.

You get the idea.

Yazamalainia

well i'd expect nothing less!!
but i mean any specific events, or are we all gona drink out of a trough on front of the campanile?? although either sounds tempting...

ion c

as dan said its all about drinking and giving your money to societies! there are generally events run every night, in the evening things like gigs, comedy etc and at night you've got big parties by both ents and the big socs like the hist, phil and dubes (not the shoes! although might as well be! haha! ). You'll get a weekplanner in your intropack to trinity with all the events in it.
Hope this helps! make sure you join the paintball soc! they are a great bunch of guys!

Thirdfox

when is it actually? (returning senior freshman back from a year off books)...

dan719

ion c wrote:

as dan said its all about drinking and giving your money to societies! there are generally events run every night, in the evening things like gigs, comedy etc and at night you've got big parties by both ents and the big socs like the hist, phil and dubes (not the shoes! although might as well be! haha! ). You'll get a weekplanner in your intropack to trinity with all the events in it.
Hope this helps! make sure you join the paintball soc! they are a great bunch of guys!

I do love that the Dublin university business and economic society call themselves the dubes- they really do ask for abuse sometimes. I do however like the shoes though!:D

sd123

Thirdfox wrote:

when is it actually? (returning senior freshman back from a year off books)...

ye, can someone tell me when it starts plz :cool:

Kurtosis

October 1st

the flananator

Where does evryone drink? The student bar?

Nehpets

This drinking sounds good!

sd123

Nehpets wrote:

This drinking sounds good!

seconded.... twice

Nehpets

I'll third it aswell

paperclip

Did you get the Fresher's Week pack yet?

Just curious- what's the front cover of the Publications Pamphlet like?

the flananator

Just to reitterate...Where does everyone drink? On campus?

xeduCat

There are 15,000 students here (including postgrad, part-time etc). We do not all drink in the same place. In fact, there is just one bar inside the campus*, the Pavilion ("Pav") which is small (the indoors) and popular with some people, but by no means is the central gathering place for students (except on warm days when people drink outdoors, but still you're talking about a subset). Trinity is very different in that regard to other campuses (both urban and rural) where the only bar is the on-campus bar and others are 30 mins walk away.

Do be assured, though, that if alcohol is your medicine, it is prescribed in hundreds of city centre bars within five minutes walk.


* there is another establishment, the Lincoln Inn which is on Trinity land but operated by a tenant, with access from the street only. As it's only just re-opening, it's hard to tell whether it will be quite studenty - I doubt it and they are not marketing it as such that I can see.

Ron DMC

xeduCat wrote:

* there is another establishment, the Lincoln Inn which is on Trinity land but operated by a tenant, with access from the street only. As it's only just re-opening, it's hard to tell whether it will be quite studenty - I doubt it and they are not marketing it as such that I can see.

Certainly not very studenty at all.
It's all plush and fancy and stuff, and the prices aren't even anywhere close to being reasonable. Pricewise think more along the lines of Café en Seine than Buttery.

xeduCat

Well yes. Just look at the owners: http://www.thomasreadgroup.com/

In their defence they just entered into the rental agreement with Trinity under normal business conditions, there wasn't any stipulation about price or market or anything - in this case TCD is just the landlord collecting the rent and it's up to the TRG to make their money the way they want to. (FWIW I wouldn't have done it this way but it was agreed even at tender stage to do it as a straightforward commercial arrangement).

Nehpets

Does the Pav have student friendly prices?

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI

Yep

I was never one for the super cheap beer, but they have some super ridiculous deal on cans of Bavaria, don't know what it is.

ApeXaviour

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI wrote:

but they have some super ridiculous deal on cans of Bavaria, don't know what it is.

4 for €8 last time I checked. Hardly a super deal, but good enough considering it's 500mls of half decent (as decent as any international brand lager gets tbh) beer purchased in a licensed drinking establishment.

M450

Dont you worry... bavaria will become your primary choice in drink soon enough... give it a week or 2 and you'll be ditchin the millers and heinekens for it!! I live on it!

Has any1 sampled the new mega packs? 8 for €9... deadly deal! I jus spotted it last week

Borneo Fnctn

M450 wrote:

Has any1 sampled the new mega packs? 8 for €9... deadly deal! I jus spotted it last week

YES! It tastes... the same as always.

Nehpets

Do we get free stuff at freshers' week?

Bucketloads of it. With the possibility of free booze.

Nehpets

Deadly.

M450

Remember last freshers week they clamped down on drinking on campus with the societies... dont know what the rule actually was... but it was a pile of piss altogether!!

scengi

M450 wrote:

Remember last freshers week they clamped down on drinking on campus with the societies... dont know what the rule actually was... but it was a pile of piss altogether!!

Alcohol cannot be available to students(from societies) before 6pm any day. also kegs are banned completely. possibility of a bar in the marquee that will be set up in fellows square during freshers week though....

shay_562

also kegs are banned completely

Really? Was that in place last year, or is it new this year? 'Cause if the former, it's not enforced too strictly (gave out beers from a keg at least three nights during FW last year), and if the latter, where did you hear about it?

Chardee MacDennis

why are kegs banned? is there a specific reasoning behind this?

i know you cant have kegs in some places round college due to damaging floors while moving them.

Pugwash

double post oopsy

Pugwash

Regarding kegs: it's in the college alcohol policy, which, strictly speaking is pretty much a guideline for the lack of attempt at enforcement that's used.

It basically says no kegs on what one could only presume is the basis that a college reception with a keg could be seen as a "kegger" a la american teen films.

bit ridiculous considering the fact that any society large enough to get kegs would hardly let someone do a kegstand or whatever if there's a room of 100 or more people at a reception.

And if the JD thinks that it would or even could happen, she and the rest of the panel who compiled the policy, are completely out of touch.

policy's on the web somewhere.

also, no one, be they club/soc,etc can have a reception before 6 anytime during the year. I'm not sure if that is in the policy itself but afaik, if you seek permission for one pre six you'll get shot down.

THE1NE

Its that ****ing junior dean bitch..ruins all the fun..
And while i'm at it so what if one stupid med student climbs up on the poll outside the pav!!
Whoever let them out of the library should be shot!!!!

Agent Smith

Last year, "freshments" were only allowed from 6pm,

i remember TFM and SFSOC doing a countdown from 5:59pm

Boston

So fresher week starts on the 1st of october? Is this for certain?

wowy

THE1NE wrote:

Its that ****ing junior dean bitch..ruins all the fun..
And while i'm at it so what if one stupid med student climbs up on the poll outside the pav!!
Whoever let them out of the library should be shot!!!!

There's a major difference between having fun and recklessly endangering others. You obviously didn't see what happened, otherwise you wouldn't have made that ridiculous statement. When the pole broke, it came down and cracked a woman (who was just trying to enjoy Pav Friday with her friends, like the rest of us) on the head, resulting in bleeding and an ambulance coming to take her to hospital. Now, what if she had a concussion, or was out of sorts for a week after that? This was during the exam period, and it could have messed up her year because of some idiot.

While I agree with you about the JD making a lot of stupid rules and killing a lot of the buzz, it's a 2-way street. If students can manage to have fun civilly and not mess up other people's heads, then she won't be as much of a hardass.

And Boston, yeah it's definitely kicking off on the 1st.

Crash

God I wish there was another week before freshers week - getting stressed on the organisation side of things - erk!

THE1NE

I was actually a metre or two away when it happened.
And how is the statement ridicolous??All I was saying was that its not just to punish the whole university based on one idiots actions.
Should of dealt with him as an individual and made the consiquences public so people know what happens if they act like idiots.

wowy

It's a ridiculous statement because you're essentially saying so what if one fella acts the maggot, as long as the rest of us behave ourselves, sure aren't we grand? I can imagine that the girl in question would dispute that. And anyway, with regard to that particular incident, the JD didn't introduce any controls following from it. All her decrees with regard to the Pav were introduced before that.

Your idea that the whole University shouldn't "be punished" is idealistic. That's how rules etc are introduced-when an incident happens, the rules are changed to prevent it happening again. Sure it's a shame that it impacts on us, but better that than potentially having students getting messed up in some sort of incident.

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI

wowy wrote:

It's a ridiculous statement because you're essentially saying so what if one fella acts the maggot, as long as the rest of us behave ourselves, sure aren't we grand? I can imagine that the girl in question would dispute that. And anyway, with regard to that particular incident, the JD didn't introduce any controls following from it. All her decrees with regard to the Pav were introduced before that.

Your idea that the whole University shouldn't "be punished" is idealistic. That's how rules etc are introduced-when an incident happens, the rules are changed to prevent it happening again. Sure it's a shame that it impacts on us, but better that than potentially having students getting messed up in some sort of incident.

I disagree, I think you're far overestimating the likelihood of instances such as the aforementioned. Incidents like that don't happen often, and I doubt they would have happened more often if some of the ridiculous alcohol policies were loosened. Despite everything, we are a reasonably mature, intelligent bunch. Who are capable of having fun without wrecking the gaff totally.

bright

Yazamalainia wrote:

hey,

Could someone maybe tell me what happens during freshers week besides all of the academic based stuff, i can't find it anywhere!!

yeah, there wasn't much said about it in the orientation pack was there,

I have been assured that various different societies are posting event guide booklets/magazines/leaflets today and tommorow (very last minute). Which, I was informed, costs significantly more than printing the booklets/magazines/leaflets.

I think the reason it is so hard to find info is that, from what i can gather, competing societies like to keep what they are doing for FW on the low down until just before freshers week.



EDIT: 100TH POST! and two stars yesssss!!!

shay_562

I think the reason it is so hard to find info is that, from what i can gather, competing societies like to keep what they are doing for FW on the low down until just before freshers week.

Actually, to the best of my knowledge, it's more to do with data protection and your privacy - there's some form that goes out with the initial TCD posting that lets you take your address off the register, to avoid spam from societies and clubs (and there'll be plenty of it in the next few days, trust me) if you so wish. Because societies have to wait for the deadline to allow people to send it back if they don't want to get spammed, they can't send out any info until the last minute. Still though, not sure how much earlier it's needed - most of FW is wandering from stand to stand joining the societies with the best pitch and the hottest volunteers, then chasing free beer around college.

THE1NE

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI wrote:

I disagree, I think you're far overestimating the likelihood of instances such as the aforementioned. Incidents like that don't happen often, and I doubt they would have happened more often if some of the ridiculous alcohol policies were loosened. Despite everything, we are a reasonably mature, intelligent bunch. Who are capable of having fun without wrecking the gaff totally.

Exactly.

wowy

ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI wrote:

I disagree, I think you're far overestimating the likelihood of instances such as the aforementioned. Incidents like that don't happen often, and I doubt they would have happened more often if some of the ridiculous alcohol policies were loosened. Despite everything, we are a reasonably mature, intelligent bunch. Who are capable of having fun without wrecking the gaff totally.

My main argument was just disputing THE1NEs example that what happened to that girl wasn't all that important. I completely agree that we are intelligent people-this isn't the UCDD board.

I'm not the biggest fan of the alcohol policy, but I can see where it's coming from. It was originally introduced (to the best of my knowledge) back when societies were allowed serve shots, and Freshers Week was set up along the straight path, and would dish out free shots. College disapproved of having to, every year, ambulance Freshers off to get pumped stomachs. The original policy, which outlawed that sorta stuff, was imo a reasonable step. Obviously, with Ms Stokes it has snowballed. She's obviously of the opinion that the majority aren't the standard setters-she reckons that it's the lowest common denominator that set the standard and she reacts accordingly. While it's not particularly fair, college are just protecting themselves, because in this Compensation Culture that exists nowadays, they need to do everything to prevent themselves being in any sorta trouble for "irresponsibility".

shay_562

Wowy wrote:

And anyway, with regard to that particular incident, the JD didn't introduce any controls following from it. All her decrees with regard to the Pav were introduced before that

Wasn't the second flagpole removed shortly after the abortive attempt to climb the first?

wowy wrote:

While it's not particularly fair, college are just protecting themselves, because in this Compensation Culture that exists nowadays, they need to do everything to prevent themselves being in any sorta trouble for "irresponsibility".

I doubt it's a compensation issue - with a bar on campus, formerly two, and most societies having regular alcohol receptions, not to mention cobblestones, cars and bikes regularly passing through, there's no way the university isn't covered to all sweet bejesus in the event of an accident.

Tbh, from what I've seen of the JD's dealings with students, both at a macro and micro level, she seems to be (as you said) of the opinion that students are incapable of controlling themselves, and that any kind of fun or social events will inevitably lead to chaos. Which isn't the say that she isn't right (witness any event on campus serving alcohol and the odds are there'll be someone off their face, or at the very least well on their way), but her methods of enforcing it can be restrictive in an unhelpful way. I've seen her refuse permission for events on highly specious reasoning seemingly simply because she can, and I've bitched before (possibly in this thread) about the uselessness of the 6PM policy*; it seems at times that's she attempting to get a reputation as a stern disciplinarian but doesn't really understand enough about student lifestyles to do that effectively, and so lashes out randomly in the hopes of hitting something.

The result is, obviously, an incoherent alcohol policy that, instead of being easily enforceable (has anyone ever seen a society operating the "Two Drinks Only" policy properly?) or authoritive (because I have to hope, on some level, that you can appeal to students more easily if you treat them like adults rather than like infants who need a firm slap on the wrists) is ignored where possible and circumvented where not, which helps no one, least of all the JD.

*Having served alcohol at a few different college class/society events now, the big problem always seems to be people drinking too much too fast, which is the inevitable result of saying "You can have X number of drinks only, but you only have an hour window in which to drink them" and then letting people loose. People will obviously still get knackered if you serve at 2 in the afternoon, but more slowly, and less chaotically.

paperclip

Rather off topic, but can I ask what the front cover of the Publications brochure looks like?

I agree with the narrow window=more drinking thing though. The mistake they're making is assuming freshers are mature students who aren't at all excited about being away from home for the first time and getting wasted without having mamaí and dadaí watching over them. The post-6pm rule would better serve people who are past that whole thing. No offense to freshers, as I was one of the people who weren't into that sort of thing, but let's be frank, a fair amount are.

Crash

On a freshers week note: Comedy Soc and Ents will be hosting Jason Byrne in the dining hall on tuesday evening - ticketed event. should be a cracker

the flananator

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On a freshers week note: Comedy Soc and Ents will be hosting Jason Byrne in the dining hall on tuesday evening - ticketed event. should be a cracker

I'll be there

wowy

On another freshers week note: The Phil will be hosting Johnny Marr (guitarist with The Smiths and currently with Modest Mouse) in the GMB on Tuesday evening. This is not a ticketed event. Should be a cracker!





*Sorry crash, but this is a dog-eat-dog world!

Attractive Nun

wowy wrote:

On another freshers week note: The Phil will be hosting Johnny Marr (guitarist with The Smiths and currently with Modest Mouse) in the GMB on Tuesday evening. This is not a ticketed event. Should be a cracker!

:eek:

Excellent news!

THE1NE

When did I say it wasn't "important"?
Of course its not something you can let happen,The girl could of been seriously injured but it was an isolated accident its not something that happens everynight at the pav.
The guy who done it is an idiot,yeah. But its not fair to punish the whole student body based on one idiots actions (which is what we are arguing wheter or not the jd's actions happened before or after this event).
What should of happened is he should of been punished and word would of spread (as it does in college) of how he was dealt with and then people would (hopefully) took something from what happened.

Crash

wowy: our understanding from talking to people in the phil was that it was an afternoon event.

anyhow, you guys are having it in the chamber, so won't exactly be able to pack that many in.