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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    JCJCJC wrote: »
    Did anyone else get an email from peter maxwell in the law soc today about setting up an account, this is the msg:
    We are currently in the process of creating a Law Society Website Account for you but in order to complete this process we will need to delete the account that you registered with us previously. We will then create your account with your official ID number. I am writing to seek your permission to remove your old account from our website so that we may re-register you with your official Law Society account. With this account you will be able to login and get news/updates and exam results etc. Please confirm with me as soon as possible that this is ok.

    I don't know if it's legit or a phisher.

    jc

    When did you get that. I got no such email from them? I dont even know if they have my address.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭JCJCJC


    Hogzy wrote: »
    When did you get that. I got no such email from them? I dont even know if they have my address.

    today at 4.02 pm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    JCJCJC wrote: »
    today at 4.02 pm

    If the email wasnt from an @lawsociety account then i would ignore it.
    Its a bit strange to be honest. Maybe a call to the law society after the exams to confirm just in case they have had information stolen.

    Although online results have been a LONG time coming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭UberStressed


    CFOLEY85 wrote: »
    Would Q1 not have been Duty of care and omissions?? thats what i said, therefore no need to talk about causation, standard of care, etc as no duty existed at all.

    RE: Q3; along with VL, would it not be psy damage too: Our lecturer told us we are not psychiatrists and therefore how can we judge what is psy dam in such instances and according to Cuddy, witnessing your child in an acident.. you're owed a duty of care... plus the Q said state the possible responsiblity in these eventS!! therefore Im hoping we get marks for noticing this...

    Thats what Im hoping anyway. But hopefully every argument we put forward will get us enough marks to pass. Fingers crossed!!

    Some one mentioned about EU examiner marks easy, really???? God I hope so!!!

    Thats is the approach I took in Q3 aswell, liability for Nervous shock provided she can provide recognisable pysch illness and other criteria under Kelly v. Hennessy test... I also done Passing Off and Res Ipsa Loquitur, straight forward I think... Q8 Rylands and Nuisance, although I messed up here with the Act of God, put it as part of Rylands not a defence, ops! Also done the trespass question last, had 15 mins and completely blanked on all case law, hopefully done enough on the others to pass :/

    Next please!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Dylan123


    From my understanding of the paper:
    The key areas:
    Question 1 Passing off
    Question 2 General negligence - Duty of care, focus on causation - remoteness..
    Question 3 Nervous shock, vicarious liability - tint of general negligence
    Question 4 Res Ipsa loquitur
    Question 5 Trespass to the person - battery
    Question 6 Defective product - tint general negligence
    Question 7 Damages
    Question 8 Nuisance - Rylands v fletcher

    I went for q1, q2, q5, q6, q8.
    I didnt go for q3 - did vicarious liability come into it.. seems odd to have nervous shock and vicarious liability thrown in with a tiny hint of gen negligence?? i avoided that one anway!

    Q2 and q3 prob the most tricky??
    .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭frustratedTC


    What did u all say about Q6?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭trixabelle86


    What a CRAP paper. I'm sitting in the IBIS still in utter shock at the entire thing!! Have to do company tomorrow and get my head round revising for that in a few minutes but worst exam paper I've seen so far! :( fingers crossed the next 3 will go handy to get my 3/4 done :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭UberStressed


    JCJCJC wrote: »
    Did anyone else get an email from peter maxwell in the law soc today about setting up an account, this is the msg:
    We are currently in the process of creating a Law Society Website Account for you but in order to complete this process we will need to delete the account that you registered with us previously. We will then create your account with your official ID number. I am writing to seek your permission to remove your old account from our website so that we may re-register you with your official Law Society account. With this account you will be able to login and get news/updates and exam results etc. Please confirm with me as soon as possible that this is ok.

    I don't know if it's legit or a phisher.

    jc

    I also got this email... I emailed the law society before so presume that is how they have my address, but why they think I have an account is beyond me.. might try calling them tomorrow?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭frustratedTC


    Trixabelle I feel the exact same, tort was meant to be the 1 that i knew inside out, just absolutely panicked. The venu is awful, soo noisy and cramped I thought there was people having a meeting next door to me, very annoying!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭trixabelle86


    Trixabelle I feel the exact same, tort was meant to be the 1 that i knew inside out, just absolutely panicked. The venu is awful, soo noisy and cramped I thought there was people having a meeting next door to me, very annoying!

    yeah me too. ah well. leave it in the past now i guess... yeah it was very noisy alright and the door kept squeaking!!! and there was people laughing outside for somereason. probably left early and were laughing at the state of the paper. felt like joining them!;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Dylan123


    In fairness why did you not complain to the invigilator. Concentration is very important and there job is not just as people think to prevent cheating... its about managing the exam... Where i was seated it was fine... def mention it to them... as anyone talking can go outside instead of disturbing you... after all the work you put in.... dont let that happen again...all it takes is a quick word..im sure they will be more than happy to accommodate after all thats what they are paid to do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 itsmol


    I didnt get one either and I have an account with them already coz I got reports n stuff....

    Re: Common seal, it comes up in question regarding incorporation, its defined in sec 114 (1) b of 1963 CA every co. "shall have its name engraven in legible characters on its seal" . Its attached to all company documents, it basically signifies the doc is the act and deed of the company, whereas when a doc is merely signed by a Director then it is deemed to be an act carried out on behalf of the co. by its agents which is subject to appropriate restrictions and limitations under the ordinary law of agency.
    Model reg 115 is also adopted by co's and talks about countersigning the seal.If the sealing provisions are observed, the corporate officers have teh requisite authority to act; if not then an outsider may be able to enforce the contract where he satisfies the Rule in Turquands or comes within Reg 6(Companies) Regulations 1973.

    That what Ive in my notes anyway. Hope this helps!:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭sin0city


    Yeah, I just twigged it when I was near the end and added a few paragraphs on at the end - felt like I was throwing in the kitchen sink!

    I found the venue to be fine, first time doing them so I have no real comparison.
    Eliste wrote: »
    I did every last problem question! Did the same as you in adding in neg misstatement to the products one, and actually felt while I was writing it that that was mores what the question was. Felt like a lot of them required you to talk about multiple things!


    Same here. It looked like PL, smelt like PL and barked like PL but I decided it was a cat :) i.e. negligent misstatement. I based my q on that. Hopefully it's not a case that if you didn't focus on PL you failed the question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 Smonkey


    I got the email from Peter Maxwell aswell but presumed it was in relation to the account you have to set up when ordering past papers/reports. Online results would be a god-send after what happened in December with the weather!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭trixabelle86


    Dylan123 wrote: »
    In fairness why did you not complain to the invigilator. Concentration is very important and there job is not just as people think to prevent cheating... its about managing the exam... Where i was seated it was fine... def mention it to them... as anyone talking can go outside instead of disturbing you... after all the work you put in.... dont let that happen again...all it takes is a quick word..im sure they will be more than happy to accommodate after all thats what they are paid to do

    yeah they went outside a few times to see where the noise was coming from but it didn't seem to stop. wish i invisted in a pair of earplugs. might stick some tissue in my ears tomorrow :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭trixabelle86


    what topics are people really covering for Company tomorrow? My morale is a bit down and i'm finding it hard to get focused!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Dylan123


    Can anyone advise how to simplify estates in land and reg and un reg land... two as far as i am concerned... nasty areas.... inclined to leave them and move on... then i look at the grid and ......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Dylan123


    Can anyone advise how to simplify estates in land and reg and un reg land... two of the most complex or indistinguishable areas in property law.... inclined to leave them and move on... then i look at the grid and ......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    JCJCJC wrote: »
    today at 4.02 pm

    Yeah got the exact same e-mail, thought nothing of it until I saw your post, now I'm wondering??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭Amre17


    what topics are people really covering for Company tomorrow? My morale is a bit down and i'm finding it hard to get focused!

    Honestly...

    s.25 contract
    Separate Legal Personality
    Ultra Vires
    Corporate Authority
    Transfer and Transmission of shares
    Borrowing
    Receivership
    Realisation of Corpoate Assets
    Reckless and Fraudulent Trading
    Reg 80
    Subject of Directors Duties

    Time has just ran out on me and this is all ill manage for tomorrow.. praying the paper will suit!

    Im sure this will make you feel better..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭JCJCJC


    yeah they went outside a few times to see where the noise was coming from but it didn't seem to stop. wish i invisted in a pair of earplugs. might stick some tissue in my ears tomorrow :rolleyes:

    The bloke who did the CGD refresher on Equity recommended ear plugs for all law exams - he reckons they help increase concentration by eliminating distractions, and he wasn't joking. I've been trying them for study for the past week or two and he might be right, they do help to isolate you from the surroundings. Going by the remarks here after day 1 in the Red Cow, I'll be using them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭JCJCJC


    godeas16 wrote: »
    Yeah got the exact same e-mail, thought nothing of it until I saw your post, now I'm wondering??

    I now think it's probably legit since a few people here have got it. I think we were asked for email addresses when we registered for exams? On-line results would be a good step forward, particularly if people are out of the country or post is delayed etc as we've seen. However, UL had an on-line system and it used to crash hopelessly on results day when I was a student there. You would have to check at 5 am to have a chance of getting on to the system. The law soc won't have anything like the same number of people trying to log on simultaneously so it might have a better chance of working.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭Orla FitzP


    Amre17 wrote: »
    Honestly...

    s.25 contract
    Separate Legal Personality
    Ultra Vires
    Corporate Authority
    Transfer and Transmission of shares
    Borrowing
    Receivership
    Realisation of Corpoate Assets
    Reckless and Fraudulent Trading
    Reg 80
    Subject of Directors Duties

    ..
    ur like my twin!!!!!! great minds think alike??? or fools seldom differ!!! abso bricking it about company tomoro!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 nr46


    AnnAh1986 wrote: »
    Thats exactly what I am covering and the people that I know are. My constitutional interpretation is even a little scant.

    In Family & Ed only covered parental decision making autonomy - child medical issues - and left the rest as it never comes up.


    Ya im doing the same re family.

    Getting quite confused on the whole non justicibility bit- I know what it is i just dont see how it comes up in questions, is it a side issue or has it appeared by itself?

    Totally starting to freak out now and after tort today finding it very hard to concentrate!! :(

    Also, what are people covering for the Oireachtas/ President, just powers or are you covering art26 procedure too?

    Roll on friday (afternoon!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭trixabelle86


    Amre17 wrote: »
    Honestly...

    s.25 contract
    Separate Legal Personality
    Ultra Vires
    Corporate Authority
    Transfer and Transmission of shares
    Borrowing
    Receivership
    Realisation of Corpoate Assets
    Reckless and Fraudulent Trading
    Reg 80
    Subject of Directors Duties

    Time has just ran out on me and this is all ill manage for tomorrow.. praying the paper will suit!

    Im sure this will make you feel better..


    I'm not the best for retaining information so i'm seriously cramming tonight. Good luck on having that much in your head! i'm just trying to get cases in and very grateful I've that giant block of a book to give me a hand :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭Amre17


    Orla FitzP wrote: »
    ur like my twin!!!!!! great minds think alike??? or fools seldom differ!!! abso bricking it about company tomoro!!!!

    Yay!! Now that theres two of us praying for the same paper we might get it!? :P

    Hope youre happy tomorrow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭wez99950


    Doing a bit of late night study so doing something a bit light - maxims. I don't seem to have a lot of examples of the maxims in action so was wondering is anybody can think off hand of cases where the following maxims are present:

    - He who seeks equity must do equity
    - he who comes with equity must come with clean hands
    - delay defeats equity
    - equity is equality

    i think i'm a bit braindead at this time of night! i have cases for them and they won't stick in my head - so tryna look for interesting cases that might be easier to remember!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭chopser


    Did the Equity course with Griffith last year but just wondering Re new Charity act.

    Can anyone help me with the details of new Charities Act 2009. Has it been fully implemented and also in an exam is the old case law still what will be used to explain poverty, education , religion and community?

    Essentially can I answer exam questions in the same way as before( pre the Charities act).

    Cheers for any help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭-aboutagirl-


    chopser wrote: »
    Did the Equity course with Griffith last year but just wondering Re new Charity act.

    Can anyone help me with the details of new Charities Act 2009. Has it been fully implemented and also in an exam is the old case law still what will be used to explain poverty, education , religion and community?

    Essentially can I answer exam questions in the same way as before( pre the Charities act).

    Cheers for any help.


    The Charities Act 09 was to be implemented in stages & very few of the provisions are actually in force. In particular, section 3 of the Act which contains the new public benefit test and the new heads under 'other purposes beneficial to the community' has not yet been commenced.

    So if it came up I think I'd answer with reference to the old caselaw but would emphasise the changes that would be effected by the Act when it is commenced. I have a friend who did the course in Independent Colleges this year who said they were teaching it there as though CA 09 is in force, which is a bit weird :confused:

    Most of what you need to know is in Section 3 of the Act, if you look it up online you'll see the changes are mainly to do with the public benefit requirement.

    Hope that helps in someway and if anyone else has any other info please share...its been confusing me too but I hope I've got it correct!

    I reckon the limbo state of charities law in general is a possible reason why it hasn't come up a lot recently. Examiner may be avoiding it until the Act is fully in force.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭chopser


    The Charities Act 09 was to be implemented in stages & very few of the provisions are actually in force. In particular, section 3 of the Act which contains the new public benefit test and the new heads under 'other purposes beneficial to the community' has not yet been commenced.

    So if it came up I think I'd answer with reference to the old caselaw but would emphasise the changes that would be effected by the Act when it is commenced. I have a friend who did the course in Independent Colleges this year who said they were teaching it there as though CA 09 is in force, which is a bit weird :confused:

    Most of what you need to know is in Section 3 of the Act, if you look it up online you'll see the changes are mainly to do with the public benefit requirement.

    Hope that helps in someway and if anyone else has any other info please share...its been confusing me too but I hope I've got it correct!

    I reckon the limbo state of charities law in general is a possible reason why it hasn't come up a lot recently. Examiner may be avoiding it until the Act is fully in force.

    Thanks that helps a lot, I've also felt the Examiner might stay away due to uncertainty. Maybe might mean a push to Cypres Q or Purpose Trust Q, ??


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