Please im desperate !!!

justbringit89

Ok guys i am seriousley depressed and want 2 lose weight , im 18 and 15 stone !.
But i am very fussy with foods(please dont ask) , i dont want everyone going u shoud be eating this and that . so basicly m going to write out aload of foods and hoping someone who knows what they r talking about will help me!!


Breakfast:
Toast ,
Cornflakes,
cherrios
tea,
orange juice,
low fat butter ,
low fat milk

Dinner
Boiled Rice with curry sauce
Fryed chips
Big AL's Chicken strips on a george foreman
Big AL's Chicken fillets on a george foreman

Other
cream crackers
apples and oranges
grapes
apple juice
orange juice


off the top of my head tats a list of food ! i no im really bad eater . but i dont mind my diet being repeatitive!!!


EDIT: I do 20 minutes of exercise on a pedal treadmill ting!!!
Thanks for help
Alan

Esse85

Where's the exercise???

justbringit89

sorry forgot

LegacyUser

Ok, so where is the excercise?

That's not excercise. 20 mins on a thingy? You need to be doing at least half an hour 4 times a week of moderate intensity cardiovascular activity such as running/cross trainer/cycling etc.

Ditch the toast for brown bread.

Ditch the cereals for porridge with a spoonful of honey in it.

Ditch all the **** you eat for dinner for proper, non processed lean meats. Go to the butchers and get chicken fillets without the skin, don't be eating that Big Als crap.

You have to stop eating chips. There no good for anyone. You basically need to read the stickies at the top of the page, that food ain't going to do anything for anyone. I'm in what I would consider pretty good shape and I would not even get away with eating that diet every day, it would **** me up in a month...

Are you in a gym or are you going to be joining one?

Esse85

Judging by that diet and your lack of exercise, you cant afford to be fussy over the foods you choose to eat.

justbringit89

Sorry its call a cross trainer , yes im joining a gym from monday and going there 3/4 times a week and when im not there i will use my cross-trainer.


Ok i can do porridge bu leave out the honey ( is the honey important).

Ok would the skinless chicken be done on a george foreman??? what about putting a small amount of Aromat on it??

yeah i will cut out the chips !!

how does chicken soup fit into the diet.


Thanks for the help , i really need a shove in the right direction!!!

Eascha

I would agree that exercise is probably the main thing that's missing. Even walking an hour a day would help. But really you should try to build up cardio exercise which will burn fat. Cardio exercise would be like running, cycling, swimming, playing football, squash etc etc. Avoid weights, they probably wont help that much to reduce body fat.

but make sure to build it up at a steady rate, 3 laps of a soccer pitch this week every day, 4 laps next week every day etc etc

And just to show how effective cardio can be, my bro lost a full stone in 3 days when he cycled the wicklow way!

justbringit89

Eascha wrote:

I would agree that exercise is probably the main thing that's missing. Even walking an hour a day would help. But really you should try to build up cardio exercise which will burn fat. Cardio exercise would be like running, cycling, swimming, playing football, squash etc etc. Avoid weights, they probably wont help that much to reduce body fat.

but make sure to build it up at a steady rate, 3 laps of a soccer pitch this week every day, 4 laps next week every day etc etc

And just to show how effective cardio can be, my bro lost a full stone in 3 days when he cycled the wicklow way!

ok can you tell me a plan considering i have access to a crosstrainer and a treadmill in the gym and also can go for a walk on the road ????

BossArky

Buy a lot of big tins of tuna (not the small ones). Eat these when you are hungry and they will keep you stuffed. You may want to experiment with having cans of tuna in brine, or tuna in sunflower oil (my favorite).

With the tuna, drink loads of water ... e.g. half a litre per hour. Buy a 500 ml bottle and carry it around, refilling when empty.

This tuna and water will get you some rapid weight loss if sustained for a week or two.

Tuna (i.e. the protein) will help sustain what muscle you have, but is devoid of carbs... so great for loosing fat. Try it and see.

Good luck.

loodles

I used to be a really fussy eater, still not great but here are the improvements I made:

Chips - if you really fancy them make homemade wedges in the oven.
Chicken -buy lean chicken fillets cook them on the george, put some spices on them to taste. Make chicken stirfrys instead of the curry, loads of different low fat sauces available or use spices and soy.
Rice -try switch to brown or basmati -keeps you full for longer.
Bread -I used to eat loads of white bread toasted now I eat Mccambridges and it fills you up for longer.
I am by no means an expert but I had a diet very similar a few years back and by these changes I lost over a stone.
Good luck!

Typhoon

Good man Alan

Best of Luck with the diet...dont have many tips only stay in there and keep it up...drink plenty of water...dont be weighing yourself every day...cos even a pint of water will add a pound to your weight so you wont notice it on the scales.

if you stick with it you'l see results very fast...like the lads say..try doin something to get your heart pumping...thats what starts burning fat.

Best of luck with it mate.

LegacyUser

Eascha wrote:

Avoid weights, they probably wont help that much to reduce body fat.

but make sure to build it up at a steady rate, 3 laps of a soccer pitch this week every day, 4 laps next week every day etc etc

And just to show how effective cardio can be, my bro lost a full stone in 3 days when he cycled the wicklow way!

I am at 10% bodyfat and have been floating between 10-12% all year mainly because of high intensity weight training, shorter breaks, more ball busting work. I go to the gym dry and leave soaking wet. I break my balls 5 times a week.

I always feel you should incorporate weight training with cardio but do the cardio at the end of your weights so you don't exhaust yourself before you start.

It is possibly to lose a stone this way but it is not ideal, it's better to do it gradually as opposed to a quick fix solution plus your brother could have just lost water retention as opposed to fat mass, get your diet right and then excercise and you will be flying...

Esse85

justbringit89 wrote:

Ok would the skinless chicken be done on a george foreman??? what about putting a small amount of Aromat on it??

This would be a perfect choice, you can put mixed herbs on it or garlic, whatever spices you fancy.

You don't have to have honey with the porridge, but it might be a little plain if you don't.

Consider protein shakes if your gonna be doing weight 3/4 nights a week.

Eat plenty of egg whites too, easiest thing is to boiled them, then peel the shell off and remove the yolk.

Swap white bread for brown, have water with your meals. Sip on a bottle when working out.

Eascha

justbringit89 wrote:

ok can you tell me a plan considering i have access to a crosstrainer and a treadmill in the gym and also can go for a walk on the road ????

If you going to the gym, they will give you a plan and usually theyre not bad at giving plans. its hard to generalise considering ive never done any exercise with you, and i dont know how you react to different levels of exercise. But half an hours walk with your ipod will definately help no matter what else you do.

and cheesedude, your right, gradually building up exercise is always far better then a quick on slaught. My bro does loads of exercise usually but was recently injuryed hence why he had a little extra weight that he could lose

ali.c

hey alan, How fussy with foods? So ifs its veg for example invest in a blender and make your own sauces or whatever. Parents use it to fool kids into eating their veg all the time.
also if your a fussy eater, i would recommend learning how to cook and how to cook well. That way you can control the levels of flavours etc in your meal.

AlphaMale 3OO

If you like soup, Tesco and Superquinn do a really good range of low fat, nice tasting vegetable/chicken soup. You can add chicken to it if you want. If you want curry it is possible to mix a small amoount of REDUCED fat coconut milk with curry powder. Eat lots of fish if you like it. Grill it or shallow fry it in olive oil. Huge salads with olive oil/vinegar dressing. You dont have to have honey with the porridge, nutritionally its actually better if you dont. If you need a chocolate fix, try protein bars (Labrada have by far the best ratio of taste to nutritional value, metrx and maximuscle are also ok) but dont gorge on these. their excellent in moderation. If you like cottage cheese, eat plenty of that. Mixed with one can of tuna its a killer protein meal and with sunflower oil almost tastes like a substitute for tuna/mayonaise. Throw a few steaks on the george if you want but make sure their lean. if you cant stomach boiled egg whites, omelletes with 1 yoke and 4-7 whites are good. If you like rashers, that new turkey bacon is a nice low fat substitute though it is processed. Eat as much green veg as you want. Eat sweet potatoes instead of white. Nearly all of your vices have an alternative but of course your willpower is the biggest factor. Dont take sh1t off people who are ignorantly curious of you new eating habits or tease you with chocolate cake. They are fat carbohydrate guzzling assholes and their soft doughy features will pale in comparison to your lean look which you could attain in under 3 months. Work hard.

Money Shot

forbesii wrote:

They are fat carbohydrate guzzling assholes and their soft doughy features will pale in comparison to your lean look which you could attain in under 3 months. Work hard.

Carbohydrates aren't evil - they are incredibly important, and without them you'd be on the atkins diet.

AlphaMale 3OO

i never said they were but if you want the soft look, feel free to guzzle them down all day. its important to get a decent amount in at breakfast but loads of fruit and veg will be more than adequate for the remainder of the day.

Money Shot

forbesii wrote:

i never said they were but if you want the soft look, feel free to guzzle them down all day. its important to get a decent amount in at breakfast but loads of fruit and veg will be more than adequate for the remainder of the day.

I wouldn't say that I exactly have the soft look. You just seemed to be demonising carbs, and I was just making the point that they are as important as fats and protein in any diet.

HammerHeadGym

forbesii wrote:

...its important to get a decent amount [of carbohydrates] in at breakfast but loads of fruit and veg will be more than adequate for the remainder of the day.

Em, you do know that fruit and veg are entirely carbohydrates don't you?

Look, carbs aren't evil if they are coming from a good source, such as fibrous fruit and veg.

AlphaMale 3OO

HammerHeadGym wrote:

Em, you do know that fruit and veg are entirely carbohydrates don't you?

Look, carbs aren't evil if they are coming from a good source, such as fibrous fruit and veg.

Of course I know that. Thats exactly what my point is. Take your carbs from those sources. I'm only going off my own experience and what worked for me and LOW carb, not NO carb has been my way to a strong physique. Couple that with low to moderate fat intake and high protein and I think you have the building blocks of the best all round diet in comparison to others fad diets. This IS NOT the Atkins diet.

slicus ricus

forbesii wrote:

i never said they were but if you want the soft look, feel free to guzzle them down all day. its important to get a decent amount in at breakfast but loads of fruit and veg will be more than adequate for the remainder of the day.

There are 2 things fundamentally wrong with the above comment. Firstly, you need a meal high in complex carbs about an hour to an hour and a half before you train. The main reason is that complex carbs give you energy and you need energy to train. Secondly, simple carbs after a weights session are an essential as well as protein.

AlphaMale 3OO

Why is it wrong? Despite the fact I cant lift much in the morning, this is when I do most of my training. I have two bowls of oats, creatine and a 7 egg white omellete an hour beforehand and a nutrigrain bar and two sccops of whey afterwards. I never said to not do these things. I said to limit your carb intake. it dosn't need to be massively high. that is a fact.

slicus ricus

forbesii wrote:

Why is it wrong? Despite the fact I cant lift much in the morning, this is when I do most of my training. I have two bowls of oats, creatine and a 7 egg white omellete an hour beforehand and a nutrigrain bar and two sccops of whey afterwards. I never said to not do these things. I said to limit your carb intake. it dosn't need to be massively high. that is a fact.

I completely agree that your carb intake doesnt need to be massively high. In your previous posts, you never specified that you train in the morning an hour after a big meal. You also never pointed out the importance of carbs before training when talking about carb, and advised people not to eat much carbs other than in the morning time. Not everyone trains in the morning, so i was just pointing out the need to eat a complex carb and protein meal before training, as well as simple carbs post training.

AlphaMale 3OO

my apologies.

justbringit89

does the weight watchers diet work??? i was calculating if i ate chips(or chicken) and a cream crackers which i could survive on i would be under the 20 points allowed ??? how does this work cause my cousin lost 2 1/2 using this diet.

also is there any diets which are easy like the 2 packets of soup thing a day??

Kinetic^

What height are you?

AlphaMale 3OO

justbringit89 wrote:

does the weight watchers diet work??? i was calculating if i ate chips(or chicken) and a cream crackers which i could survive on i would be under the 20 points allowed ??? how does this work cause my cousin lost 2 1/2 using this diet.

also is there any diets which are easy like the 2 packets of soup thing a day??

You've just ignored all the things that were posted by numerous people! drop the chips and cream crackers! Theres no place for these in a clean healthy diet! And as for packet soup, its cardboard, empty and uterly useless calories.
Forget weight watchers points, if you really want to look good, follow the advice people here are giving you. Did you say you wanted to lose weight or gain muscle mass? this will determine your eating habits but the fundamental rule of clean eating applies in both cases. Have chips once a week as a cheat meal if you love them so much.

ali.c

Are you male/female btw? Anyhow there is loads of info in this thread. Weight watchers can be good but its important that you look at the quality aswell as the quanity of your calories. WW only does the latter. At 18 your at still very young and you dont want to start of a pattern of yo-yo dieting. If you do it right the first time it will be sustainable. Seriously slow and steady is the way to go.
On the 2 packets of soup thing, well you might think you could survive on it but in reality its not sustainable. There is no quick easy way to get fit and healthy.
If you are living at home and find it difficult to go with healthier options then you have some choices to make. The first thing i did when i started eating well was to boot my bf out of the kitchen and start cooking us dinner. (surprisingly he didnt mind too much lol). you have to take responsiblity for your eating so if other people are cooking your food and its not doing you any favours then you need to take control of your food preparation.

LegacyUser

justbringit89 wrote:

does the weight watchers diet work??? i was calculating if i ate chips(or chicken) and a cream crackers which i could survive on i would be under the 20 points allowed ??? how does this work cause my cousin lost 2 1/2 using this diet.

also is there any diets which are easy like the 2 packets of soup thing a day??

I suggest you quit now if this is going to be your attitude.

You need to listen to the people here and the advice they gave and understand that there are good cards and bad carbs. Chips are disastrous carbs.

You need to eat clean, unprocessed foods that are good for you if you want to drop your tubby look.

justbringit89

Yes i am a MALE ...well i want a quick fix soloution to lose about 1 stone chicand a half in the next 3 weeks!! so i could manage having 3 chicken soups a day !! would i lose the weight . after the event in 3 weeks i will seriously start a proper new diet !!.
so 3 packets of soups and plenty of water is going to be my diet.

But i dont understand , someone who lost loads of weight on the weight watchers diet told me that he could he what he wanted and stayed inside the point range

ali.c

okay yes you would lose weight if you only had 3 packets of chicken soup for 3 weeks. Technically though its the equivalent of starving yourself. You will lose as much if not more muscle as fat. That will make it harder to get to and maintain a healthy weight. Not being bad, but are you seriously prepared to put your health at risk for the sake of an arbriary number on the scales.

With regard to weight watchers, it does work. However it works better if you chose good foods. Your body needs cals to survive. However it also needs a certain amount of good fats, protein and carbs to keep you healthy. Eating rubbish on weight wathers will drop weight it just wont improve your health.

ali.c

justbringit89 wrote:

so i could manage having 3 chicken soups a day !! would i lose the weight.

I wouldnt be so sure about that tbh. Why if hte event is in 3weeks time are you only trying to drop the weight now?

justsomebloke

I don't want to sound harsh but truthfully OP what the **** are you posting on the forum for if you have no intention of actually paying attention to anything anyone says.

If you really want to lose a stone and a half in 3 weeks go get cosmetic surgery.

mack1

justbringit89 wrote:

Yes i am a MALE ...well i want a quick fix soloution to lose about 1 stone chicand a half in the next 3 weeks!! so i could manage having 3 chicken soups a day !! would i lose the weight . after the event in 3 weeks i will seriously start a proper new diet !!.
so 3 packets of soups and plenty of water is going to be my diet.

But i dont understand , someone who lost loads of weight on the weight watchers diet told me that he could he what he wanted and stayed inside the point range

Man, you're really askin' for it now!

LegacyUser

justbringit89 wrote:

Yes i am a MALE ...well i want a quick fix soloution to lose about 1 stone chicand a half in the next 3 weeks!! so i could manage having 3 chicken soups a day !! would i lose the weight . after the event in 3 weeks i will seriously start a proper new diet !!.
so 3 packets of soups and plenty of water is going to be my diet.

But i dont understand , someone who lost loads of weight on the weight watchers diet told me that he could he what he wanted and stayed inside the point range

Oy Tubby, go do what you wanna do. I don't give a ****.

justbringit89

Ok now i realise the soup thing was stupid . With the weight watchers i mite try it . I won be filling myself with junk food but it wont be really healthy either . Maybe having skinless chicken for dinner , for snacks apples are only 1/2 a point and lots of water in between . For breakfast maybe porridge. I know there is not alot of variety but. Not a veg eater TBH . sorry bout being a jackass bout the soup thing . Am thankful for the responses !!

AlphaMale 3OO

I hereby give up.

Esse85

There's no quick fix, your attitude stinks, you've been given advice but your choosing to ignore it.

I ve washed my hands.

Cadrach

This is probably a troll to begin with, but regardless... you need your green vegetables. Even if you don't like them you must take your medicine. They can be made easier to eat - if you don't like broccoli then try chopping it into small chunks and stir-frying it with chicken and carrots and stuff and you can take a small piece of broccoli with each bite of chicken. If you try eating properly for a week and you will find that a lot of food you wouldn't eat in the past goes down much easier.

far2gud

Dont think its a troll, although he probably look like one with that diet and no exercise!!

mack1

Cadrach wrote:

This is probably a troll to begin with, but regardless... you need your green vegetables. Even if you don't like them you must take your medicine. They can be made easier to eat - if you don't like broccoli then try chopping it into small chunks and stir-frying it with chicken and carrots and stuff and you can take a small piece of broccoli with each bite of chicken. If you try eating properly for a week and you will find that a lot of food you wouldn't eat in the past goes down much easier.

QFT

Fussy eating is a 5 yr old's excuse - nobody says you have to like everything (for example, humans have no business eating tomatoes - they're horrid things the deadly nightshade!) but you cant dislike every vegetable. Grow up!

Sleepy

OP, you're 18, not 8. Quit the childish 'BUT I DON'T LIKE THAT!' nonsense about your diet. Sure, there are things we all don't like but there's no way that the list of stuff you you 'like' can't be smaller than the list of stuff you can't stand the taste of.

Money Shot

justbringit89 wrote:

well i want a quick fix soloution to lose about 1 stone and a half in the next 3 weeks!!

Just curious - why do you have to loose a stone and a half in three weeks ? What happens if you don't ?

I don't think there is any reason why someone would NEED to loose so much weight in such a short period of time - even for your big wedding day. You'd be better off loosing a half a stone in your three weeks and try to loose the rest over the next few months.

I don't want to repeat what a lot of the others have been saying, but seriously you will be doing yourself no favors in the long run. You can't survive on three packets of soup - if you did - you would have to go back to eating normally at some point - correct ? What happens then ? Well, i'll tell you, your body will be delighted and will start storing in case another famine comes - essentially slowing down your metabolism, and you could damage your immune system too. It's madness, and lots of people here are telling you that - and some are telling you from experience.

justbringit89

I have a Wedding and even i stone gone would be great !!!! No forget the soup thing . It could be possible to lose weight on the weight watchers ?? which exercise maybe 4 hours week

Sleepy

With your attitude towards food, honestly the only way you'll lose anything major before that wedding would be through liposuction which I'm not recommending in any way shape or form.

Eating a properly balanced diet as suggested in the stickies about nutrition and *busting* your gut in the gym on a TBT weight program combined with cardio would make a noticeable difference in that time but you're not gonna get anything without *HARD* work.

slicus ricus

I have no interest in offering you advise until you change your attitude. Your nutrition is an element lifestyle and thats the way it should be looked at. Clearly from your nutrition and lack of exercise, you lead an unhealthy lifestyle. If you want to lose the weight healthily (without doing damage to yourself), you have to change your lifestyle. Here's a newsflash that you should really get into your head: There is no such thing as a quick fix in terms of healthy nutrition.

If you want a quick fix, go find a cosmetic surgery forum - if you want advise from me and anyone else on this forum, change your attitude.

justbringit89

ok guys sorry bout all the grief , i am changing my attitude but i need help as to know what to eat !!.


Having thought about this i think porridge would be a good breakfast !


Dinner - Skinless chicken from butchers not Processed stuff , maybe some spices to giv it abit more taste .

for snacks having brown bread with Connacht Gold Low fat butter (is that butter ok)

Also Having Plenty of fruit , oranges , apples , grapes !!!

Also what would be peoples advice on the Weight watchers Dinners Eg The Chicken Curry Ones, Are these good or would you recommend staying away from them.??

Now is this a better approach(not perfect) to losing weight???

~Leanne~

Jesus leave the guy alone will ye's! He is not the only fussy eater who has had a snoop through these pages to get some advice!

Some people take the whole healthy eating thing a bit too extreme!

slicus ricus

justbringit89 wrote:

Now is this a better approach(not perfect) to losing weight???

It's a better approach alright, but you have to accept that if you're gonna change your diet, its a lifestyle change and it is for good - not just for losing a stone for this wedding. Otherwise you're wasting your time.

justbringit89 wrote:

Also what would be peoples advice on the Weight watchers Dinners Eg The Chicken Curry Ones, Are these good or would you recommend staying away from them.??

I wouldn't recommend them at all. Stay away from anything processed. Rather than having that, grill a skinless chicken fillet, cook a load of vegetables and make you're own sauce (a vegetable stock will suffice and will go nicely with your fresh vegetables). Its far healthier than something weight watchers have put into a packet.

The rest of what you mentioned is good. Just make sure you stay away from chips, currys, and other crap foods. Once you stop eating them, you body will stop craving them.

justbringit89

Cheers Good Advice i would of thought the WW dinners would be good and healthy , good to know now that their not so i can stay away from them