PSNI Recruitment (Archived)

--thepirate--

hi PSNI/folks

just wondering if theres any gym facilities in the training centre and if there are any in any of the station?Should there not be more fitness and endurance tests based towards been excepted?I just think its a joke when I personally look at a GARDA officer and know the only thing he/she is likely to chase is a big mac meal.Fair enough you probably cant discriminate against someone because of weight but have them pushing paper or some other side of the service.I just think especially with the PSNI ye really do try to find the people with the right mindset for the role but I think it highly wrong in this day and age to over look fitness.Sorry if ive gone on abit but im just going on personal experience.Ive friends who joined the garda and put on a stone or two in the first few months.

cheers psni/folks

Wanalaugh

Hi Guys
Is there anyone who has recently passed their medical or anyone as a matter of fact, that has been given a date to start in August?

Wanalaugh

uncleneilly

Steven123 wrote: »

Hi, First post on here. I sat my IST on the 24th of April. Just wondering if I pass will my date for the AC come with the test results or will there be yet more waiting?

Thanks

your letter of pass normally contains the date for the ac and a bit of info regarding what to expect on the day

goodcopbadcop

Still havent heard back about medical, thought It would be sorted soon but looks like it might take a bit

Wanalaugh

Thanks for the response. Goodcop, did you ever get your merit number?
Just to confirm a query guys(hopefully this dosent offend the gals out there lol).
Is the rule simply 50/50 either RC or non RC. Ive heard a whimper that sex is also taken into account? So someone who is female could get a position before a guy with a higher score.
I knew i should have worn that dress to the assesment day lol

wanalaugh

PapaYankeeGirl

Wanalaugh wrote: »

Thanks for the response. Goodcop, did you ever get your merit number?
Just to confirm a query guys(hopefully this dosent offend the gals out there lol).
Is the rule simply 50/50 either RC or non RC. Ive heard a whimper that sex is also taken into account? So someone who is female could get a position before a guy with a higher score.
I knew i should have worn that dress to the assesment day lol

wanalaugh

I heard that about sex being taken in to account too. A long serving officer told me that! So it must be true! Maybe PSNI will tell us!?!:)

goodcopbadcop

Yeah I got it ages ago and was pretty far down the list!

I dont know if the male/ female thing is right or not, but I would imagine intakes are balanced as best as possible so its not all men and one woman or vice versa.

--thepirate--

hi all,

ive just been doing abit of browsing about the PSNI.Reading about some of the recent shootings and attacks on officers.Is it safe at all been a PSNI officer??????

Shield

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

I heard... A long serving officer told me that! So it must be true!

This is how rumours start.

There is immense transparency in the recruitment process. If someone in there is offering a place to a female with a merit pool score of 221, over a male with a merit pool score of 220 (figures for example only!), can you imagine the potential lawsuit that could follow if this was discovered?

The "long serving officer" would not have any proof of this anyway. Perhaps it happened in his day, but certainly not these days. There are just too many people involved in the process to favour one sex over another. It's all about 50/50 and your merit pool score.

PapaYankeeGirl

psni wrote: »

This is how rumours start.

There is immense transparency in the recruitment process. If someone in there is offering a place to a female with a merit pool score of 221, over a male with a merit pool score of 220 (figures for example only!), can you imagine the potential lawsuit that could follow if this was discovered?

The "long serving officer" would not have any proof of this anyway. Perhaps it happened in his day, but certainly not these days. There are just too many people involved in the process to favour one sex over another. It's all about 50/50 and your merit pool score.

Ok you know best, I was only going by what I was told. Sorry:(

Wanalaugh

lol do you see what ive started.
Maybe i should rethink joining, if i get in im supposed to help create peace and resolve possible conflicts .... not start em lol
At least we get the answer one way or another chaps and this answer puts my mind at rest....well at least until i can think of another stupid question.
Goodcop depends on your merit. Id say if your below 440 your in with a good chance below 220 is better etc etc.

So good news for the sex thing and no need for me to iron the dress. My wife wouldnt be too happy anyhows....she needs it lol

goodcopbadcop

Well Im quite a bit off 440 mate. Thought it was game over long time ago but im still in there. Must be due to background. Guy off here was recruited in March was merit number 750 something, roman catholic background. so anything is possible, or so i hope.

Shield

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

Ok you know best, I was only going by what I was told. Sorry:(

There's nothing to be sorry about! I don't "know best" at all. Have a talk to the "long serving officer" and I can guarantee you he will tell you he heard it from a mate, or he knows someone who knows someone...

If he can give a specific example of the direct discrimination you claim he told you of, have him contact me directly here on boards and I'll be the first to blow the whistle.

PapaYankeeGirl

psni wrote: »

There's nothing to be sorry about! I don't "know best" at all. Have a talk to the "long serving officer" and I can guarantee you he will tell you he heard it from a mate, or he knows someone who knows someone...

If he can give a specific example of the direct discrimination you claim he told you of, have him contact me directly here on boards and I'll be the first to blow the whistle.

No discrimination! He seems to be under the impression that for example if 400 get selected that there is 50:50 non RC/RC and within that 50:50 female/male. Never mind, I dont want to start a row. All us 'hopefuls' can do is keep our fingers crossed . Thanks for your help, just forget I said anything.

MrAnderson

--thepirate-- wrote: »

hi all,

ive just been doing abit of browsing about the PSNI.Reading about some of the recent shootings and attacks on officers.Is it safe at all been a PSNI officer??????

I can't speak for everyone, but it doesn't put me off applying at all. Surely being a police officer in NI or anywhere else has its risks?

I hope the officer involved in the latest incident makes a speedy recovery

goodcopbadcop

I think officers in Northern Ireland are more likely to find bombs under their car than in any other part of the U.K. Its sad but its true. Which is why people who choose to go into policing deserve a huge amount of respect and praise for their efforts.

MrAnderson

Hear hear

edzzy

I suppose we all saw news today, makes you think, Why is vetting taking 1 year + in some cases and yet someone under criminal investigation gets well into training?

I guess the consequences for us will now be longer more detailed exacting vetting....etc etc.....

I think this just got harder..........:(

PapaYankeeGirl

edzzy wrote: »

I suppose we all saw news today, makes you think, Why is vetting taking 1 year + in some cases and yet someone under criminal investigation gets well into training?

I guess the consequences for us will now be longer more detailed exacting vetting....etc etc.....

I think this just got harder..........:(

I know what you are saying, but if the crime hadnt been brought to light at the time the student officer was recruited there was no way that consensia or the PSNI could have known. Just one of those things. Makes you think (as you said):)

carlty888

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

I know what you are saying, but if the crime hadnt been brought to light at the time the student officer was recruited there was no way that consensia or the PSNI could have known. Just one of those things. Makes you think (as you said):)

Totally agree with you. Vetting can only search you history/background. Not something that only comes to light after you've been accepted for training.

Can I have his space at Garnerville???? :D:D

PapaYankeeGirl

carlty888 wrote: »

Totally agree with you. Vetting can only search you history/background. Not something that only comes to light after you've been accepted for training.

Can I have his space at Garnerville???? :D:D

No I WANT it!!!!:D:D

carlty888

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

No I WANT it!!!!:D:D

No way woman. I'll fight you for it! :mad:

If only it worked that way. We'll just have to stay with the campaign 14 circus.

PapaYankeeGirl

carlty888 wrote: »

No way woman. I'll fight you for it! :mad:

If only it worked that way. We'll just have to stay with the campaign 14 circus.

Looks like it!

JVB

Hi guys, just to alleviate some concerns over your background and merit rating. If the PSNI require 440 candidates. That's 220 RC and 220 ANY OTHER. Whether you agree or not, that's the policy. Now, out of the pool of successful candidates post AC, recruitment select the top 220 from each criteria. So it is possible that in the first 440 of merit order only 100 are from a RC background. Therefore recruitment have to move further down the list to select RC personnel to meet the quota of 220. That is how a person with a merit rating in 700's has been already selected.

Of course all the figures I have mentioned are examples are not necessarily true in each or any campaign. I will also not enter any political debate over the rules that govern recruitment for the PSNI, so please do not berate me for 'rubbing you up the wrong way.' If you don't like the process or feel it is unfair there are other forces. This is the one I want to join and accept the idiosyncrasies that surround it.

Hope you C14's get your IST results soon and we can have some pat on the backs

JVB

goodcopbadcop

Agree with you here, its the only way to take in equal numbers. The majority of applicants are still non roman catholic and therefore they have to go further down the list to get roman catholics.

Not that it makes alot of difference, anyone on the list has met the standards and therefore is just as able and willing as anyone else for the job. So well done to anyone who has passed.

edzzy

What i was alluding to in my comments re: vetting process was the fact that this officer had apaprently been sacked for gross miscondiuct from his previous employer.

Would this not surely show up during vetting checks? Either checks are not as strict as we imagine or only a % are getiing checked completely.

My vetting for another government job took a year, but they could nealry tell me the colour of socks i had in 1988(white......dont laugh we all wore them....bros etc)

goodcopbadcop

I think he left the job, and it only came to light what he had done after he was already in Garnerville, at which point he was suspended on full police trainee pay until now.

Wanalaugh

Hit the 50 50 stuff on the head and the attitude guys. See it from those who have been affected by it. This forum is supposed to be here to help each other. If it annoys you that someone says its not fair to be discriminated, then dont comment. Otherwise help if you can. No response to this comment is expected. Its hard to see some people on here working as a team in the police. Let it be....

JVB

Wanalaugh wrote: »

Hit the 50 50 stuff on the head and the attitude guys. See it from those who have been affected by it. This forum is supposed to be here to help each other. If it annoys you that someone says its not fair to be discriminated, then dont comment. Otherwise help if you can. No response to this comment is expected. Its hard to see some people on here working as a team in the police. Let it be....

Explain?

MrAnderson

Wanalaugh wrote: »

Thanks for the response. Goodcop, did you ever get your merit number?
Just to confirm a query guys(hopefully this dosent offend the gals out there lol).
Is the rule simply 50/50 either RC or non RC. Ive heard a whimper that sex is also taken into account? So someone who is female could get a position before a guy with a higher score.
I knew i should have worn that dress to the assesment day lol

wanalaugh

I'll second that, I'm a bit confused because you brought it up originally??