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  • 20-06-2007 12:33am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭


    Okay this country needs sorting out.If I was to run in the next general election this is what I would offer.

    1.More prisons,no bail,longer sentences,and no shortening of sentences for good behaviour.The prisons would be finances by the money I would save by canceling all dole payments to forgein citizens/assylum seekers.They will be allowed to work and fenf=d for themselves from day one

    2.No more homless.No Irish man or woman would be homless,not one assylum seeker would be given a bed until every Irish man or woman was offered one.

    4.Assylum seekers/forgeiners will be deported on their first criminal offence without the right to appeal.

    5.Minimum of 20 years in jail for possesion of class A drugs.10 years class B 10 and class C 5 years.Death sentence for those caught in possion of class a with intent to supply.

    6.Mandatory death sentence for padophiles and those caught in the possession of child pornography.This would inculde all preists previously convicted.

    7.No marraige rights for homosexuals.

    8.Cigs banned.

    9.More cycle lanes.More buses.Increase funding of public transport.

    10.Anti social behaviour:2 years in prison.

    11.No abortion.

    12.Vanalism of any type=2 years in prison.

    13.Murder=death sentence with no right to appeal.

    14.More taxation on 6 figuer salaries.lee taxation on salaries below 30,000.

    15.More funding for education.(Trinity,NUIG and UCC would all be top 20 in the wotl by 2015)

    16.Increase minimum wage to 8 e/hr

    17.Racism=5 years in prison

    18.Free health care for ALL,similar to NHS

    19.Rape=death sentence

    20.No registration fee for university.

    21.Increase funding into sport,aim of 2 gold medals for london olympics.

    22.No tax on fruit and veg.

    23.No tax on forgein companies as long as they employ more than 1000 citizens.

    24.No longer will the average man turn on the 6 one after along days work and see pictures of polticians swanning around in mercedes,living the life of a playboy,mocking you with his grin at some swanky fund raiser.All politicans will be paided a respectible wage,but not extortionate.They will drive cars they have paided for themselves out of their own wage packets.The gravey train thats is Irish politics would run out of steam if I was to be elected.

    25.More bank holidays,Ireland would have the highest number of bank holidays in the eu if I was to be elected.

    26.The end of pointless figuer head positions.No morre presidents,as money is alocated to public transport and education the end of of these pointless positions would free up money.

    27.Gaurding of our heritage,I would stop shrinkage of galetacts by any means possible and stop highways desroying out beautiful country side.


    (all death sentence would be carried out with 1 hour of sentencing by public hanging out side the court house)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Binomate


    k.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Thank heavens you are not really running in the next General Election. I'd run you out of town with a burning pitchfork.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    boreds wrote:
    Thank heavens you are not really running in the next G. election.

    Just so he's crucified in 5 years time: He can apply to run in every single constituency and send one election letter free of change to every person registered in the country, and it won't cost him one cent.

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/government-in-ireland/elections-and-referenda/national-elections/nomination_for_membership_of_dail_eireann


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭oneeyedsnake


    boreds wrote:
    Thank heavens you are not really running in the next General Election. I'd run you out of town with a burning pitchfork.

    Why?My policies are great imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    You make no mention of cancelling dole payments to the feckless, pyjama or tracKsuit (with socks tucked in like a goalkeeper :confused: ) wasters I see in my locality every day.

    What's your policy here OP?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭oneeyedsnake


    Myth wrote:
    Just so he's crucified in 5 years time: He can apply to run in every single constituency and send one election letter free of change to every person registered in the country, and it won't cost him one cent.

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/government-in-ireland/elections-and-referenda/national-elections/nomination_for_membership_of_dail_eireann

    Any respectible Irish citizen would have nothing to fear under my stern but fair rule.In fact I think that the average man would gain alot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Binomate


    15.More funding for education.
    The irony is killing me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭oneeyedsnake


    micmclo wrote:
    You make no mention of cancelling dole payments to the feckless, pyjama or tracKsuit (with socks tucked in like a goalkeeper :confused: ) wasters I see in my locality every day.

    What's your policy here OP?

    Right,I'm glad you asked.My policy here would have to take into account the availabilty of low skilled jobs available during the particular period.So every 3 months research would be conducted into the availabilty of such jobs.If there was genuine availabilty of such jobs then dole payments would be sdjusted to such a level that these people would litterally face starvation if they didn't seek employment.Pretty fair no?Of course if the someone was incapacitated or tied to the home with 10 kids then they would recieve a slight increse in dole payments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Thanks for answering my question.
    Personally, I would have voted for trying to convince Poland to swop 200,000 of our worthless skangers for 200,000 of their hard working citizens but I'm not sure they would agree to it.

    Having reviewed your policies, I believe you are willing to take the hard decisions this country needs.

    You have my vote!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭oneeyedsnake


    micmclo wrote:
    Thanks for answering my question.
    Personally, I would have voted for trying to convince Poland to swop 200,000 of our worthless skangers for 200,000 of their hard working citizens but I'm not sure they would agree to it.

    Having reviewed your policies, I believe you are willing to take the hard decisions this country needs.

    You have my vote!

    Thank you!I'll say it now Ireland is a great country,however there are a small minority of murders,rapists,drug dealers,petty criminals,paedophiles,ect... that are ruining it for everyone.
    I know that not everyone agrees with the death sentence but for some people it is the only option.The legal system would be adjusted to place more control in the hand of the judge,more sentences will be handed out as a result, but you know what?I think its worth it.
    Ireland is sadly heading the way of the UK,in 10 years society will be in free fall,its up to people like you to take a stand for what you know is right even if you will be ridiculed by those afraid of change,those who have settled into this flawed lifestyle like a pig in squalor.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭oneeyedsnake


    Is there any political party that would agree with all my policies or would I have to go as an independent?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭Cool_CM



    7.No marraige rights for homosexuals.

    8.20 cigs = 20 euro.

    11.No abortion.
    A bit harsh, i'll be doing my best to ensure this guy gets to the dail in the next election
    http://www.johnbracken.ie/


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭sidneykidney


    I'm with you all the way,you got my vote. Up untill item 8 that ones a bit harsh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭oneeyedsnake


    Binomate wrote:
    The irony is killing me.

    Sorry?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭oneeyedsnake


    Cool_CM wrote:
    A bit harsh, i'll be doing my best to ensure this guy gets to the dail in the next election
    http://www.johnbracken.ie/

    Okay I take that on board, but however if I was to changed my policies before even being elected then what do you think would happen once I walked into office and some fat cat started waving money in my face? No I won't budge, I am harsh but fair, no compromise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭oneeyedsnake


    I'm with you all the way,you got my vote. Up untill item 8 that ones a bit harsh.

    You know its for the best tho,cancer sticks and all that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭sidneykidney


    Maybe,but dont they rake in a load of taxes thus helping the economy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭oneeyedsnake


    Maybe,but dont they rake in a load of taxes thus helping the economy.

    Yes they do,however if I was the one making the calls (ie Bertie) I wouldn't be giving a sizable portion of the population lung cancer,asthma ect just to have a few more pence in the piggie bank.My policies are moulded around the goal of making Ireland a safer place of the average hard working man,a safer place for him to bring up his children,a better place for young educated people to settle down and have a family.There is no hidden agenda.Cigs are just the tip of the iceberg :no longer would the goverment be looking to make money from its people it would be looking to make money for its poeple.Thats the way I see things.


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭sidneykidney


    Ok,ok i am giving up.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    17.Racism=5 years in prison

    This one is dumb ass hell. What exactly constitutes as racism in the first place? Are you honestly going to lock up people for 5 years simply for having an opinion?

    And on that note, what is your policy on the jew? :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭McSandwich


    1.More prisons,no bail,longer sentences,and no shortening of sentences for good behaviour.The prisons would be finances by the money I would save by canceling all dole payments to forgein citizens/assylum seekers.They will be allowed to work and fenf=d for themselves from day one

    We need to ensure that dangerous criminals are locked up kept off the streets. Currently, many violent criminals get away on bail because there is a shortage of space in prisons. It might help if non payers of fines and those who are not a danger to society received an appropriate punishment.

    The vast majority of our immigrants/ migrants are here to work - why else would they come here? Asylum seekers are not allowed to work and under International law we have a duty to care for them. Remember too that many Irish citizens have benefited from social welfare abroad.

    2.No more homless.No Irish man or woman would be homless,not one assylum seeker would be given a bed until every Irish man or woman was offered one.

    Do you think that the Irish homeless in London should be offered beds or would they be classed as asylum seekers/ foreigners?

    4.Assylum seekers/forgeiners will be deported on their first criminal offence without the right to appeal.

    I agree with this to some extent. I would expect the same if I was found guilty of a crime abroad. The US do this already, but I heard plenty of moans the last time an Irish person was deported for something relatively minor..
    5.Minimum of 20 years in jail for possesion of class A drugs.10 years class B 10 and class C 5 years.Death sentence for those caught in possion of class a with intent to supply.

    Similar policies have failed in Singapore and Thailand. Also, it would mean that I could have you locked up for 20 years simply by planting some drug on you and calling the cops :D

    6.Mandatory death sentence for padophiles and those caught in the possession of child pornography.This would inculde all preists previously convicted.

    Again, I send you some porn in the post or plant it on your PC and next you know it's the green mile for you...

    7.No marraige rights for homosexuals.

    We don't currently, but why not?
    8.20 cigs = 20 euro.

    Poor families will starve as their parents spend the food money on smokes. Nicotine addiction is worse than heroin in this regard.
    9.More cycle lanes.More buses.Increase funding of public transport.

    Why bother, everyone's going to jail...
    10.Anti social behaviour:2 years in prison.

    So you make a bit of noise on the way home from the pub, the neighbours complain, you spend 2 years in jail. Is this appropriate or fair? Look at the ridiculous ASBO situation in Britain.
    11.No abortion.

    A constitutional matter as we know, and the people have already decided (sort of). Do you propose to overrule this decision?
    12.Vanalism of any type=2 years in prison.

    See antisocial behaviour.

    13.Murder=death sentence with no right to appeal.

    The death sentence doesn't work in the US or anywhere else, why should it here? Why no right to appeal? again that's unconstitutional and the people are unlikely to vote for change.
    14.More taxation on 6 figuer salaries.lee taxation on salaries below 30,000.

    Fair enough, but don't go overboard or you'll discourage new business investment resulting in less jobs and less tax to pay for jails.
    15.More funding for education.

    Makes sense
    16.Increase minimum wage to 8 e/hr

    Good idea in principle. Problem is that it's likely to have a ripple effect pushing up cost of living and inflation. Hopefully your better eduction system will lead to less people on min wage.
    17.Racism=5 years in prison

    Given your attitude towards foreigners, you'll be keeping a cell yourself ;) Are you also proposing to introduce a force of thought police to enforce this, big brother style?
    18.Free health care for ALL,similar to NHS

    Set your sights higher than the NHS for **** sake..
    19.Rape=death sentence

    A serious crime which warrants serious punishment. Unfortunately it can be difficult to prove rape and given that you've removed right to appeal, that could be dangerous and make it too easy to falsely send an innocent to their death.
    20.No registration fee for university.

    You're a student then? Abolishing third level fees hasn't benefited those who needed it most. Surely you can do better than that?
    21.Increase funding into sport,aim of 2 gold medals for london olympics.

    We might have a chance if we could find something better than whiskey to hide steroids.
    (all death sentence would be carried out with 1 hour of sentencing by public hanging out side the court house)

    What's your rationale for this? See point 6, etc.

    Would the public, including kids, be forced to watch? Front seats for the foreigners?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭oneeyedsnake


    This one is dumb ass hell. What exactly constitutes as racism in the first place? Are you honestly going to lock up people for 5 years simply for having an opinion?

    And on that note, what is your policy on the jew? :D

    Sorry,I should have made that clearer.Of course I can't lock peole up for having an opinion,however if this person was to act on these warped ideas then they would fell the full force of the law.

    The jew?I assume you mean the jewish people?Jewish,Catholic,Prostestant,Muslim ect people will all be treated equally with no prefrence given to any faith of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    I'm sure you have wonderfull daydreams about all this, do us a favour and keep your dreams to yourself in future


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    The jew?I assume you mean the jewish people?Jewish,Catholic,Prostestant,Muslim ect people will all be treated equally with no prefrence given to any faith of course.

    Pfft! No final solution, no vote from me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Feral Mutant


    2.No more homless.
    As opposed to the current government's pro-homeless attitude? Also when you say no more homeless, do you have some plan to help people get their own homes? Normally I'd assume that's what someone meant but with your fondness for prison and the death penalty, I'd worry you plan something similar to Tom "taking care of" the rabbits*.

    *"taking care of" in more of an Al Pacino way than a Julie Andrews way for those of you who don't recognise that


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Sorry?
    The persistent bad spelling and uneducated policies 4, 7, 11 ...
    Mostly the spelling I think.

    Good night all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭maxi-twist


    If you were in government, we'd be in viscious debt in about 5 seconds. Most of your ideas are absolutely ridicuous aswell. I reckon that everyone here on boards would have had a spell in jail during your hypothetical "rule" of Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭oneeyedsnake


    McSandwich wrote:
    We need to ensure that dangerous criminals are locked up kept off the streets. Currently, many violent criminals get away on bail because there is a shortage of space in prisons. It might help if non payers of fines and those who are not a danger to society received an appropriate punishment.

    The vast majority of our immigrant/ migrant workers work. Asylum seekers are not allowed to work and under International law we have a duty to care for them. Remember too that many Irish citizens have benefited from social welfare abroad.




    Do you think that the Irish homeless in London should be offered beds or would they be classed as asylum seekers/ foreigners?




    I agree with this to some extent. I would expect the same if I was found guilty of a crime abroad. The US do this already, but I heard plenty of moans the last time an Irish person was deported for something relatively minor..



    Similar policies have failed in Singapore and Thailand. Also, it would mean that I could have you locked up for 20 years simply by planting some drug on you and calling the cops :D




    Again, I send you some porn in the post or plant it on your PC and next you know it's the green mile for you...




    We don't currently, but why not?



    Poor families will starve as their parents spend the food money on smokes. Nicotine addiction is worse than heroin in this regard.



    Why bother, everyone's going to jail...



    So you make a bit of noise on the way home from the pub, the neighbours complain, you spend 2 years in jail. Is this appropriate or fair? Look at the ridiculous ASBO situation in Britain.



    A constitutional matter as we know, and the people have already decided (sort of). Do you propose to overrule this decision?



    See antisocial behaviour.




    The death sentence doesn't work in the US or anywhere else, why should it here? Why no right to appeal? again that's unconstitutional and the people are unlikely to vote for change.



    Fair enough, but don't go overboard or you'll discourage new business investment resulting in less jobs and less tax to pay for jails.



    Makes sense



    Good idea in principle. Problem is that it's likely to have a ripple effect pushing up cost of living and inflation. Hopefully your better eduction system will lead to less people on min wage.



    Given your attitude towards foreigners, you'll be keeping a cell yourself ;) Are you also proposing to introduce a force of thought police to enforce this, big brother style?



    Set your sights higher than the NHS for **** sake..



    A serious crime which warrants serious punishment. Unfortunately it can be difficult to prove rape and given that you've removed right to appeal, that could be dangerous and make it too easy to falsely send an innocent to their death.



    You're a student then? Abolishing third level fees hasn't benefited those who needed it most. Surely you can do better than that?



    We might have a chance if we could find something better than whiskey to hide steroids.



    What's your rationale for this? See point 6, etc.

    Would the public, including kids, be forced to watch? Front seats for the foreigners?

    Some excellent points raised here and unlike today’s politicians I am going to go through every single point/question you have brought up and constructively comment on it/answer it.

    Okay first of all asylum seekers will be given the right to work on arrival with an emergency visa or some other documentation. Of course they will be given some initial aid to help them get their feet on the ground, but within a reasonable time they will be expected to be able to pay their own rent, food, bills ect. Hopefully this almost immediate integration into society will result in a smaller proportion slipping into deviant behavior.

    The Irish homeless overseas would be offered a free passage home to start a new fresh life in a free and prosperous Ireland. Other governments policies are exactly that: their own policies, for the record though yes I think that all governments, especially Governments such as the UK and USA, should aim to remove all homeless from their streets especially seeing how much they invest in military technology act...

    4. Yes, this policy will not change I am afraid.

    5. Yes you could try that but you would have to be pretty sure you'd be able to get past the extensive forensic testing and background checks that would be conducted prior to any sentencing. Also may I clarify that the users of such substances will receive the prescribed sentencing; however during these sentences the user will undergo extensive rehabilitation in a drug free environment. Once they are deemed recovered they will be release with hair testing every 2 months ensure they remain clean.

    6. Again it is not that easy, systems will be in place that will be fool-proof enough to ensure that only the guilty are punished.

    7. No marriage for homosexuals as marriage is a union between a man and a woman to provide a stable environment to bring up a healthy, well adjusted child. Same sex marriage doses not provide this enviorment. No adoption will be allowed in same sex couples ether for the same reason. Nor will homosexuals be allowed to donate blood or organs.

    8. Nicotine is needed more addictive than heroin making it all the more important that it should be banned. In fact it would be banned and nicotine replacement therapy would be free via the health services.

    9. Yes we should bother, why should the average hard working man/woman sit in a car for 2/3 hours a day because of flawed basic infrastructure? This is time he should be spending at home with his family, improving his home, helping with the community. People will only end up in jail if the have done something to deserve it, the average person need not fear.

    10. No sentencing will be proportionate with the offence, if you were to be a rowdy young rapscallion once or twice you’re not going to get put in jail, I don't want to neuter the population! Its when you start to make life a misery for your neighbors/fellow citizens that this law will come down on you hard.

    11. I am not trying to be a dictator, if that is what the people want then that is what they get> I will make no secret of which box I will be ticking on the ballot paper however.

    12. I am sick and tired of seeing smashed bus shelters and defaced walls. A few harsh sentences could help curve this dire situation. Hopefully the increase in education funding would help curb this behavior also.

    16. The new education system is indeed one of the pillars that I would be building the New Ireland around. By fixing these basic building blocks in society then everything else will fall into place allot easier.

    17.My earlier policies are not racist.They are designed to allow foreigners to quickly immerse themselves in our country and build them selves a new prosperous life, while cutting away the dead weight quickly and effectively(i.e. the criminals)

    18. The Irish heath service could learn a lot from the NHS in both terms of positives and negatives; we of course would be trying to learn from their failures in order to improve our service. No more VHI/BUPA though, all heath care would be free.

    19. Once proven upon the point of reasonable doubt the rapist will be dead within the hour, again forensics and so on will play a pivotal role.

    20. Yes I am a student. The new education funding will see more students emerging from the more deprived areas.

    21. This can be achieved through talent identification programmes such as world class start and potential schemes run in the UK through sport England.

    I would show the public that people convicted of heinous crimes are not tolerated; no one would be forced to watch.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    7. No marriage for homosexuals as marriage is a union between a man and a woman to provide a stable environment to bring up a healthy, well adjusted child. Same sex marriage doses not provide this enviorment. No adoption will be allowed in same sex couples ether for the same reason. Nor will homosexuals be allowed to donate blood or organs.

    :eek:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 812 ✭✭✭neGev


    This thread is made of fail. I barely had the mental fortitude to read your entire post, OP.
    Educate yourself, then take your head out of the clouds.

    Please take care lest you projectile vomit onto your keyboard again.


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