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Ideal policitcal policy
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19-06-2007 11:33pm#1
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micmclo wrote:You make no mention of cancelling dole payments to the feckless, pyjama or tracKsuit (with socks tucked in like a goalkeeper
) wasters I see in my locality every day.
What's your policy here OP?
Right,I'm glad you asked.My policy here would have to take into account the availabilty of low skilled jobs available during the particular period.So every 3 months research would be conducted into the availabilty of such jobs.If there was genuine availabilty of such jobs then dole payments would be sdjusted to such a level that these people would litterally face starvation if they didn't seek employment.Pretty fair no?Of course if the someone was incapacitated or tied to the home with 10 kids then they would recieve a slight increse in dole payments.0 -
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oneeyedsnake wrote:17.Racism=5 years in prison
This one is dumb ass hell. What exactly constitutes as racism in the first place? Are you honestly going to lock up people for 5 years simply for having an opinion?
And on that note, what is your policy on the jew?
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1.More prisons,no bail,longer sentences,and no shortening of sentences for good behaviour.The prisons would be finances by the money I would save by canceling all dole payments to forgein citizens/assylum seekers.They will be allowed to work and fenf=d for themselves from day one
We need to ensure that dangerous criminals are locked up kept off the streets. Currently, many violent criminals get away on bail because there is a shortage of space in prisons. It might help if non payers of fines and those who are not a danger to society received an appropriate punishment.
The vast majority of our immigrants/ migrants are here to work - why else would they come here? Asylum seekers are not allowed to work and under International law we have a duty to care for them. Remember too that many Irish citizens have benefited from social welfare abroad.2.No more homless.No Irish man or woman would be homless,not one assylum seeker would be given a bed until every Irish man or woman was offered one.
Do you think that the Irish homeless in London should be offered beds or would they be classed as asylum seekers/ foreigners?4.Assylum seekers/forgeiners will be deported on their first criminal offence without the right to appeal.
I agree with this to some extent. I would expect the same if I was found guilty of a crime abroad. The US do this already, but I heard plenty of moans the last time an Irish person was deported for something relatively minor..5.Minimum of 20 years in jail for possesion of class A drugs.10 years class B 10 and class C 5 years.Death sentence for those caught in possion of class a with intent to supply.
Similar policies have failed in Singapore and Thailand. Also, it would mean that I could have you locked up for 20 years simply by planting some drug on you and calling the cops6.Mandatory death sentence for padophiles and those caught in the possession of child pornography.This would inculde all preists previously convicted.
Again, I send you some porn in the post or plant it on your PC and next you know it's the green mile for you...7.No marraige rights for homosexuals.
We don't currently, but why not?8.20 cigs = 20 euro.
Poor families will starve as their parents spend the food money on smokes. Nicotine addiction is worse than heroin in this regard.9.More cycle lanes.More buses.Increase funding of public transport.
Why bother, everyone's going to jail...10.Anti social behaviour:2 years in prison.
So you make a bit of noise on the way home from the pub, the neighbours complain, you spend 2 years in jail. Is this appropriate or fair? Look at the ridiculous ASBO situation in Britain.11.No abortion.
A constitutional matter as we know, and the people have already decided (sort of). Do you propose to overrule this decision?12.Vanalism of any type=2 years in prison.
See antisocial behaviour.13.Murder=death sentence with no right to appeal.
The death sentence doesn't work in the US or anywhere else, why should it here? Why no right to appeal? again that's unconstitutional and the people are unlikely to vote for change.14.More taxation on 6 figuer salaries.lee taxation on salaries below 30,000.
Fair enough, but don't go overboard or you'll discourage new business investment resulting in less jobs and less tax to pay for jails.15.More funding for education.
Makes sense16.Increase minimum wage to 8 e/hr
Good idea in principle. Problem is that it's likely to have a ripple effect pushing up cost of living and inflation. Hopefully your better eduction system will lead to less people on min wage.17.Racism=5 years in prison
Given your attitude towards foreigners, you'll be keeping a cell yourself
Are you also proposing to introduce a force of thought police to enforce this, big brother style?18.Free health care for ALL,similar to NHS
Set your sights higher than the NHS for **** sake..19.Rape=death sentence
A serious crime which warrants serious punishment. Unfortunately it can be difficult to prove rape and given that you've removed right to appeal, that could be dangerous and make it too easy to falsely send an innocent to their death.20.No registration fee for university.
You're a student then? Abolishing third level fees hasn't benefited those who needed it most. Surely you can do better than that?21.Increase funding into sport,aim of 2 gold medals for london olympics.
We might have a chance if we could find something better than whiskey to hide steroids.(all death sentence would be carried out with 1 hour of sentencing by public hanging out side the court house)
What's your rationale for this? See point 6, etc.
Would the public, including kids, be forced to watch? Front seats for the foreigners?0 -
Karl Hungus wrote:This one is dumb ass hell. What exactly constitutes as racism in the first place? Are you honestly going to lock up people for 5 years simply for having an opinion?
And on that note, what is your policy on the jew?
Sorry,I should have made that clearer.Of course I can't lock peole up for having an opinion,however if this person was to act on these warped ideas then they would fell the full force of the law.
The jew?I assume you mean the jewish people?Jewish,Catholic,Prostestant,Muslim ect people will all be treated equally with no prefrence given to any faith of course.0 -
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McSandwich wrote:We need to ensure that dangerous criminals are locked up kept off the streets. Currently, many violent criminals get away on bail because there is a shortage of space in prisons. It might help if non payers of fines and those who are not a danger to society received an appropriate punishment.
The vast majority of our immigrant/ migrant workers work. Asylum seekers are not allowed to work and under International law we have a duty to care for them. Remember too that many Irish citizens have benefited from social welfare abroad.
Do you think that the Irish homeless in London should be offered beds or would they be classed as asylum seekers/ foreigners?
I agree with this to some extent. I would expect the same if I was found guilty of a crime abroad. The US do this already, but I heard plenty of moans the last time an Irish person was deported for something relatively minor..
Similar policies have failed in Singapore and Thailand. Also, it would mean that I could have you locked up for 20 years simply by planting some drug on you and calling the cops
Again, I send you some porn in the post or plant it on your PC and next you know it's the green mile for you...
We don't currently, but why not?
Poor families will starve as their parents spend the food money on smokes. Nicotine addiction is worse than heroin in this regard.
Why bother, everyone's going to jail...
So you make a bit of noise on the way home from the pub, the neighbours complain, you spend 2 years in jail. Is this appropriate or fair? Look at the ridiculous ASBO situation in Britain.
A constitutional matter as we know, and the people have already decided (sort of). Do you propose to overrule this decision?
See antisocial behaviour.
The death sentence doesn't work in the US or anywhere else, why should it here? Why no right to appeal? again that's unconstitutional and the people are unlikely to vote for change.
Fair enough, but don't go overboard or you'll discourage new business investment resulting in less jobs and less tax to pay for jails.
Makes sense
Good idea in principle. Problem is that it's likely to have a ripple effect pushing up cost of living and inflation. Hopefully your better eduction system will lead to less people on min wage.
Given your attitude towards foreigners, you'll be keeping a cell yourself Are you also proposing to introduce a force of thought police to enforce this, big brother style?
Set your sights higher than the NHS for **** sake..
A serious crime which warrants serious punishment. Unfortunately it can be difficult to prove rape and given that you've removed right to appeal, that could be dangerous and make it too easy to falsely send an innocent to their death.
You're a student then? Abolishing third level fees hasn't benefited those who needed it most. Surely you can do better than that?
We might have a chance if we could find something better than whiskey to hide steroids.
What's your rationale for this? See point 6, etc.
Would the public, including kids, be forced to watch? Front seats for the foreigners?
Some excellent points raised here and unlike today’s politicians I am going to go through every single point/question you have brought up and constructively comment on it/answer it.
Okay first of all asylum seekers will be given the right to work on arrival with an emergency visa or some other documentation. Of course they will be given some initial aid to help them get their feet on the ground, but within a reasonable time they will be expected to be able to pay their own rent, food, bills ect. Hopefully this almost immediate integration into society will result in a smaller proportion slipping into deviant behavior.
The Irish homeless overseas would be offered a free passage home to start a new fresh life in a free and prosperous Ireland. Other governments policies are exactly that: their own policies, for the record though yes I think that all governments, especially Governments such as the UK and USA, should aim to remove all homeless from their streets especially seeing how much they invest in military technology act...
4. Yes, this policy will not change I am afraid.
5. Yes you could try that but you would have to be pretty sure you'd be able to get past the extensive forensic testing and background checks that would be conducted prior to any sentencing. Also may I clarify that the users of such substances will receive the prescribed sentencing; however during these sentences the user will undergo extensive rehabilitation in a drug free environment. Once they are deemed recovered they will be release with hair testing every 2 months ensure they remain clean.
6. Again it is not that easy, systems will be in place that will be fool-proof enough to ensure that only the guilty are punished.
7. No marriage for homosexuals as marriage is a union between a man and a woman to provide a stable environment to bring up a healthy, well adjusted child. Same sex marriage doses not provide this enviorment. No adoption will be allowed in same sex couples ether for the same reason. Nor will homosexuals be allowed to donate blood or organs.
8. Nicotine is needed more addictive than heroin making it all the more important that it should be banned. In fact it would be banned and nicotine replacement therapy would be free via the health services.
9. Yes we should bother, why should the average hard working man/woman sit in a car for 2/3 hours a day because of flawed basic infrastructure? This is time he should be spending at home with his family, improving his home, helping with the community. People will only end up in jail if the have done something to deserve it, the average person need not fear.
10. No sentencing will be proportionate with the offence, if you were to be a rowdy young rapscallion once or twice you’re not going to get put in jail, I don't want to neuter the population! Its when you start to make life a misery for your neighbors/fellow citizens that this law will come down on you hard.
11. I am not trying to be a dictator, if that is what the people want then that is what they get> I will make no secret of which box I will be ticking on the ballot paper however.
12. I am sick and tired of seeing smashed bus shelters and defaced walls. A few harsh sentences could help curve this dire situation. Hopefully the increase in education funding would help curb this behavior also.
16. The new education system is indeed one of the pillars that I would be building the New Ireland around. By fixing these basic building blocks in society then everything else will fall into place allot easier.
17.My earlier policies are not racist.They are designed to allow foreigners to quickly immerse themselves in our country and build them selves a new prosperous life, while cutting away the dead weight quickly and effectively(i.e. the criminals)
18. The Irish heath service could learn a lot from the NHS in both terms of positives and negatives; we of course would be trying to learn from their failures in order to improve our service. No more VHI/BUPA though, all heath care would be free.
19. Once proven upon the point of reasonable doubt the rapist will be dead within the hour, again forensics and so on will play a pivotal role.
20. Yes I am a student. The new education funding will see more students emerging from the more deprived areas.
21. This can be achieved through talent identification programmes such as world class start and potential schemes run in the UK through sport England.
I would show the public that people convicted of heinous crimes are not tolerated; no one would be forced to watch.0 -
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oneeyedsnake wrote:
15.More funding for education.(Trinity,NUIG and UCC would all be top 20 in the wotl by 2015)
Would you promise to get yourself educated? Before you took office and made a fool of yourself and the country?
Execution for bad spelling and grammar, FTW. 0 -
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You can catch the "ghey" now from receiving a transplanted kidneyoneeyedsnake wrote:Nor will homosexuals be allowed to donate blood or organs. "Aaggghhh!! take it out doctor, I'd rather die a slow painful death!"
A tad contradictory here. Anyhow if I was the victim of a crime perpetrated by a foreign person I'd like to know they'd get the same punishment as if some Irish scumbag did it - not that they'd get a free trip home where they mighn't even serve a jail sentenceoneeyedsnake wrote:4.Assylum seekers/forgeiners will be deported on their first criminal offence without the right to appeal.
17.Racism=5 years in prison0 -
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Give the kid a break, is his name Brendan Campbell, or is it Mr Campbell.
As far as I am concerned, 20 Euro for a packet of fags would be brilliant. The social welfare system could be abolished, with cheap flights to Latvia, many entrepreneurs could fill their suitcases with fags. Who needs the dole, Moore Street and Henry Street could be thriving with the cries of "Cigarettes and Tobacco", and the undercover gardai will be undercover tax collectors again. Twatology of the highest order. We've got the smoking ban, thats enough, now get stuffed. Its good enough for now, until another bright spark anti-smoking fascist comes up with another smart arsed idea to boost the inflation rate even more. Oh.....remember, once they've dealt with tobacco, theres booze. After booze, pornography. After pornography, cars. After cars, red meat. After red meat, whats there to live for. Its stealth fascism, and we should be very very careful of Government legislating against peoples way of life, however hideous some of those habits may appear. When we are all vegetarian, cycling, christian scientologists, then the world will be such a perfect place.
Free Healthcare. Theres no such thing. Theres subsidised healthcare, and you really do not want the healthcare model, where you have the population popping prescription drugs that they perceive to need, but do not need. The only people who thrive on that are the medical companies, and all that at taxpayers expense. Forget that one.
Homosexuals not donating blood or organs. Thats already in place as medical policy. Whether we like it or not, 30% of the gay population of San Francisco carry the virus, 15% of the London gay population, 28% of the Thai gay population, and Dublin has a relatively low base by worldwide standards of between 6% and 10%. But then, any new blood borne disease in the future can appear from any group, black, white, straight or gay. Gay people do not have the monopoly in that regard.
No marriage rights for homosexuals. Marriage is a very misleading term, and you misunderstand exactly what gay people want. Gay people don't want marriage, we want civil partnership. Adam and Steve will not be outside the Pro Cathedral dressed in black and white. They will be at the registry office, so don't worry your sad conservative little head about that one pet. As for adoption, kids are cruel little brats in primary and secondary school, and lets be honest, any adopted child with gay parents could well be bullied by their peers. Hopefully, that stigma will change over time, but it will take a generation, just as the stigma of unmarried mothers, thankfully, no longer exists. Does that make me homophobic. No, its stating a harsh reality. But a child needs more than just parents, they need the support of an extended family. Adam and Steve's children will be fine, because there will be loving aunts, uncles , cousins and grandparents to lend love and support. I know more than a few 'stealth' gay adoption cases. You don't need a statute book to make a loving family. Its just another nice bit of icing on the cake.
Drugs possession.
I'd come down like a tonne of bricks on some drugs. Cocaine, Heroin, Crystal Meth, possession of >/=15 grams = minimum 5 years. Some allowance and leeway towards legalising cannibis. However, lets be realistic, these sentencing policies impact on the poorest in society, and we'd do well to address the cause, rather than the symptom. Drugs will never be eradicated, they have to be accomodated and regulated where possible. I'm no liberal on this, and I've seen plenty of drug consumption in my time. MOST people who take drugs are in control.
Vandalism and unsocial behaviour.
I don't know where to start on that one. It drives me nuts. I'll control myself, and hope anyone else does the same. I'd also hope that parents thank a Garda when their little angel is found misbehaving rather than giving their little darling the benefit of the doubt. Life is unfair, and the sooner kids realise that even when they may be innocent, the sooner they realise the reality of life, and the sooner they grow up into Adults. Harsh, unfortunate, but true. Education will not solve that. Fear of breaking laws will.
The justice system.
If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear......that seems to be a popular line amongst these amateur student dictators.
Where did I hear that one.
Oh yes, they were pulling my fingernails out in the Lyubyanka comrade. I was having coffee with Laventy Beria. That was sometime in 1950. You know how I found that one. Well....L Ron Hubbard told me in a dream, and it cost me a lot of money. And if you believe that, you'll believe anything
No society is perfect. We just, as individuals, have to do the best we can to make it as pleasant as possible for ourselves, and each other. I know you are young, but if there was free healthcare, the Health service have yet to develop a surgical technique for removing shoulder chips. When they do, drop me a line. I could do with a couple removed myself. But at least I admit that.0 -
Jimoslimos wrote:You can catch the "ghey" now from receiving a transplanted kidney "Aaggghhh!! take it out doctor, I'd rather die a slow painful death!"
A tad contradictory here. Anyhow if I was the victim of a crime perpetrated by a foreign person I'd like to know they'd get the same punishment as if some Irish scumbag did it - not that they'd get a free trip home where they mighn't even serve a jail sentence
No of course you can't catch the "ghey" from organ transplants; you can catch AIDS and other nasties though.
Why should we spend our money on imprisoning a foreign criminal. If he/she is deported they will never bother us again, sorted.0 -
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