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Are you an alcoholic

  • 24-05-2007 11:15pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭


    If you have answered YES to any one of the questions, there is a definite warning that you may be alcoholic.

    If you have answered YES to any two, the chances are that you are an alcoholic.

    If you have answered YES to three or more, you are definitely an alcoholic.

    1. Is drinking making your home life unhappy?
    2. Does your drinking make you careless of your family’s welfare?
    3. Do you drink because you are shy with other people?
    4. Is drinking affecting your reputation?
    5. Do you drink to escape from worries or trouble?
    6. Do you drink alone?
    7. Have you lost time from work due to drinking?
    8. Has your ambition decreased since drinking?
    9. Has your efficiency decreased since drinking?
    10. Is drinking jeopardising your job or business?
    11. Have you ever felt remorse after drinking?
    12. Are you in financial difficulties as a result of drinking?
    13. Do you turn to or seek an inferior environment when drinking?
    14. Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily?
    15. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?
    16. Do you want a drink the next morning?
    17. Do you drink to build up your self-confidence?
    18. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking?
    19. Has your doctor ever treated you for drinking?
    20. Have you ever been in hospital or prison because of drinking?

    I dont have much time for AA, I think its a manipulative and damn right weird organisation; it takes religion to creepy new levels for me.

    Now am I right in thinking that this test would make anyone out to be an alcoholic. Yes some of the questions are worrying, but some are pretty much a given?

    Or am I in denial?


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 653 ✭✭✭little miss


    I think they should scale the questions, so that if you answer yes to some - you need to be careful and more responsible - and then if you say yes to the the more extreme ones, that you definitely should seek help. Otherwise, yes, everyone I know would be alcoholics according to this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    I'm 19, and I drink a hell of a lot less than most people I know. I'd maybe go out once or twice a month, yet according to that I'm definitely an alcoholic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    thats utter horsesh*t , jaysus they may as well ask u "when u drink do u get drunk"?

    1. Is drinking making your home life unhappy? no im peachy

    2. Does your drinking make you careless of your family’s welfare? who ?

    3. Do you drink because you are shy with other people? tee hee

    4. Is drinking affecting your reputation? why whay they say about me?!

    5. Do you drink to escape from worries or trouble? dam right im free wiiiiiii

    6. Do you drink alone? is that illegal ? huh who said that, the wind!

    7. Have you lost time from work due to drinking? dam right boring ass party\

    8. Has your ambition decreased since drinking? yes my ambition was to go to the toilet but i just p*ssed myself

    9. Has your efficiency decreased since drinking? no thids hasnty not denn exffected

    10. Is drinking jeopardising your job or business? no not according to joejoe my magickal lepper friend

    11. Have you ever felt remorse after drinking? no i havent, cept for last night

    12. Are you in financial difficulties as a result of drinking?spare change?

    13. Do you turn to or seek an inferior environment when drinking? like the ditch?

    14. Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily? Miller Time!

    15. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping? no unless i drink myself to sleep!

    16. Do you want a drink the next morning? start the day with a sparkle!

    17. Do you drink to build up your self-confidence? dutch courage!

    18. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking? who are u ? and whay am i answering these questions?>?

    19. Has your doctor ever treated you for drinking? no,maybe i cant remember

    20. Have you ever been in hospital or prison because of drinking?
    see answer above


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,211 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Yeah same old shíte. If you binge drink (more than 4 pints? They'll probably say it's more than 2 these days), or if you have ever drank too much on a night out then you're an alcoholic.

    If you answered yes to a couple of the questions than maybe you should cut down (been in hospital or prison for drinking), but it doesn't make you an alcoholic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    magick wrote:
    thats utter horsesh*t , jaysus they may as well ask u "when u drink do u get drunk"?

    1. Is drinking making your home life unhappy? no im peachy

    2. Does your drinking make you careless of your family’s welfare? who ?

    3. Do you drink because you are shy with other people? tee hee

    4. Is drinking affecting your reputation? why whay they say about me?!

    5. Do you drink to escape from worries or trouble? dam right im free wiiiiiii

    6. Do you drink alone? is that illegal ? huh who said that, the wind!

    7. Have you lost time from work due to drinking? dam right boring ass party\

    8. Has your ambition decreased since drinking? yes my ambition was to go to the toilet but i just p*ssed myself

    9. Has your efficiency decreased since drinking? no thids hasnty not denn exffected

    10. Is drinking jeopardising your job or business? no not according to joejoe my magickal lepper friend

    11. Have you ever felt remorse after drinking? no i havent, cept for last night

    12. Are you in financial difficulties as a result of drinking?spare change?

    13. Do you turn to or seek an inferior environment when drinking? like the ditch?

    14. Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily? Miller Time!

    15. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping? no unless i drink myself to sleep!

    16. Do you want a drink the next morning? start the day with a sparkle!

    17. Do you drink to build up your self-confidence? dutch courage!

    18. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking? who are u ? and whay am i answering these questions?>?

    19. Has your doctor ever treated you for drinking? no,maybe i cant remember

    20. Have you ever been in hospital or prison because of drinking?
    see answer above

    Well the first step is admitting it :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    1. Is drinking making your home life unhappy? Kind of
    2. Does your drinking make you careless of your family’s welfare? Yes
    3. Do you drink because you are shy with other people? Yes
    4. Is drinking affecting your reputation? It's boosting it.
    5. Do you drink to escape from worries or trouble? Yes
    6. Do you drink alone? Yes
    7. Have you lost time from work due to drinking? Yes
    8. Has your ambition decreased since drinking? Yes
    9. Has your efficiency decreased since drinking? Yes
    10. Is drinking jeopardising your job or business? Yes
    11. Have you ever felt remorse after drinking? Yes
    12. Are you in financial difficulties as a result of drinking? Yes
    13. Do you turn to or seek an inferior environment when drinking? Yes
    14. Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily? Yes
    15. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping? I pass out.
    16. Do you want a drink the next morning?Yes
    17. Do you drink to build up your self-confidence? Yes
    18. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking? Yes
    19. Has your doctor ever treated you for drinking? Yes.
    20. Have you ever been in hospital or prison because of drinking? Yes, arrested 20 minutes into the new millenium.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    scojones wrote:
    1. Is drinking making your home life unhappy? Kind of
    2. Does your drinking make you careless of your family’s welfare? Yes
    3. Do you drink because you are shy with other people? Yes
    4. Is drinking affecting your reputation? It's boosting it.
    5. Do you drink to escape from worries or trouble? Yes
    6. Do you drink alone? Yes
    7. Have you lost time from work due to drinking? Yes
    8. Has your ambition decreased since drinking? Yes
    9. Has your efficiency decreased since drinking? Yes
    10. Is drinking jeopardising your job or business? Yes
    11. Have you ever felt remorse after drinking? Yes
    12. Are you in financial difficulties as a result of drinking? Yes
    13. Do you turn to or seek an inferior environment when drinking? Yes
    14. Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily? Yes
    15. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping? I pass out.
    16. Do you want a drink the next morning?Yes
    17. Do you drink to build up your self-confidence? Yes
    18. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking? Yes
    19. Has your doctor ever treated you for drinking? Yes.
    20. Have you ever been in hospital or prison because of drinking? Yes, arrested 20 minutes into the new millenium.

    Congrats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭tensecyclist


    Do I need to consult my doctor then?:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    I answered no to all of those questions (I don't drink :p ), so I passed. But if everyone I knew took this this test, they'd all be alcoholics. Granted, some of them really are alcoholics, but most of them just enjoy having a drink.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Artmustang


    I answered no to all of those questions (I don't drink :p ), so I passed. But if everyone I knew took this this test, they'd all be alcoholics. Granted, some of them really are alcoholics, but most of them just enjoy having a drink.

    The room is still large and you'll be welcomed just incase you've a change of mind.;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭R0ot


    Originally Posted by http://www.alcoholicsanonymous.ie/page5.html
    If you have answered YES to any one of the questions, there is a definite warning that you may be alcoholic.

    If you have answered YES to any two, the chances are that you are an alcoholic.

    If you have answered YES to three or more, you are definitely an alcoholic.

    1. Is gaming making your home life unhappy?
    2. Does your gaming make you careless of your family’s welfare?
    3. Do you play games because you are shy with other people?
    4. Is gaming affecting your reputation?
    5. Do you play games to escape from worries or trouble?
    6. Do you play games alone?
    7. Have you lost time from work due to gaming?
    8. Has your ambition decreased since gaming?
    9. Has your efficiency decreased since gaming?
    10. Is gaming jeopardising your job or business?
    11. Have you ever felt remorse after gaming?
    12. Are you in financial difficulties as a result of gaming?
    13. Do you turn to or seek an inferior environment when gaming?
    14. Do you crave a game at a definite time daily?
    15. Does gaming cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?
    16. Do you want a game the next morning?
    17. Do you play games to build up your self-confidence?
    18. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of gaming?
    19. Has your doctor ever treated you for gaming?
    20. Have you ever been in hospital or prison because of gaming?

    :rolleyes: :D

    Theres my version


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 317 ✭✭mobileblog


    I dont have much time for AA, I think its a manipulative and damn right weird organisation; it takes religion to creepy new levels for me.

    Now am I right in thinking that this test would make anyone out to be an alcoholic. Yes some of the questions are worrying, but some are pretty much a given?

    Or am I in denial?
    I had to tilt my head to read the italics because I’m drunk.
    Have I a drink problem? maybe. But I keep my problems to myself for the weekend.
    We all have problems it’s apart of life, classifying alcoholics by a yes/no questioner is a joke.

    Yes it does appear that the answer to everything is about going out to clubs and unwinding with a cold glass of whatever. But when the reality kicks in on Saturday/Sunday Mornings, the majority of people realise that their body can’t cope/function with drink in their system and they don’t add anything to the fire. And relax on the Sunday.

    Ireland is still stereotypical of the drunk person, but I do believe its slowly changing, I’m not sure if it’s the more business inclined minds or the wealth of Ireland thats changing this.

    Actually money is power, people can get drunk on power, power leads to destruction. I guessed were f**ked.

    But i'm just drunk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭singingstranger


    Remember that it says you may be an alcoholic if you say 'yes'. There should be numerical qualifiers there too though - for example, have you suffered a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking on five or more occasions? and such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Hmm. I is confused. I only answered yes to two of those (do you drink alone? yes, nothing beats sitting in the sun on a friday evening with a cold beer and a newspaper) and do you drink to increase confidence? (thats not WHY i drink, but it does help sometimes). Other than that it was all no's, and I thought I WAS an alcoholic.

    All my dreams are shattered. Damn you AA for making me realise I dont have a drink problem.

    >runs off crying<


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭frizzefreckles


    I answered yes to three so yes i am :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭digitally-yours


    For me 27 years old male. Married and living a happy life


    1. Is drinking making your home life unhappy? NO
    2. Does your drinking make you careless of your family’s welfare?NO
    3. Do you drink because you are shy with other people?NO
    4. Is drinking affecting your reputation?NO
    5. Do you drink to escape from worries or trouble?NO
    6. Do you drink alone?NO
    7. Have you lost time from work due to drinking?NO
    8. Has your ambition decreased since drinking?NO
    9. Has your efficiency decreased since drinking?NO
    10. Is drinking jeopardising your job or business?NO
    11. Have you ever felt remorse after drinking?NO
    12. Are you in financial difficulties as a result of drinking?NO
    13. Do you turn to or seek an inferior environment when drinking?NO
    14. Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily?NO
    15. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?NO
    16. Do you want a drink the next morning?NO
    17. Do you drink to build up your self-confidence?NO
    18. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking?Never. Just wondering if this happened to anyone how one will rerember that you have lost memory :D never happened to me
    19. Has your doctor ever treated you for drinking?NO
    20. Have you ever been in hospital or prison because of drinking?NO

    In last 5 months i had drink about 5 or 6 times

    Currently i have 23 cans of Miller in Fridge which i purchased 2 weeks ago as guests were comming which never came so the cans are still there.Only my wife had one i think.
    I agree anyone saying yes to all the above must be a real Legend


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 630 ✭✭✭ruprect


    Remember that it says you may be an alcoholic if you say 'yes'.
    It says may but also says
    If you have answered YES to three or more, you are definitely an alcoholic
    My mother who has probably a glass of wine per month and 2 or 3 at christmas is definitely an alcoholic, according to that.
    12. Are you in financial difficulties as a result of drinking?
    Obviously this is not taking into account the price of drink in Ireland.
    There should be numerical qualifiers there too though - for example, have you suffered a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking on five or more occasions? and such.
    Even that doesnt take things into account. Alcoholism in my book is addiction to alcohol. I guy might have only drank on new years eve 5 times in his teens and blacked out, might not have touched a drop since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Remember that it says you may be an alcoholic if you say 'yes'. There should be numerical qualifiers there too though - for example, have you suffered a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking on five or more occasions? and such.
    If you say yes to one, if you say yes to three or more you are definitely an alco, supposedly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    3. Do you drink because you are shy with other people?
    17. Do you drink to build up your self-confidence?
    And the difference is.....?:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Has your ambition decreased since drinking?

    What the hell kind of question is that? Since drinking when? I had my first drink at 16 and back then my only ambition was to get drunk and possibly get me paws on that philomena that lived down the road...so technically my ambitions have increased greatly since drinking..muppets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    18. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking?Never. Just wondering if this happened to anyone how one will rerember that you have lost memory :D never happened to me

    There are two types of memory loss, fragmented and en bloc.

    Fragmented is the common one, where you dont realise that memories are missing (cos you can piece together the night pretty well). You may remember the missing fragments when prompted.

    I think everyone has experienced fragmented memory loss at some stage of their drinking.


    En bloc is rarer where an entire time period is missing. Whats weird is that you can be perfectly aware and active during the period you cant remember ie yo have not passed out.

    Whats rarer still and has happened to me is an en bloc blackout where the period doesnt end in sleep. Ie normally you cant remember the last 2 hours before you passed out etc. I had an experience where one moment I was sitting down chatting and the very next instant (no haziness inbetween) I was in a bathroom in some apartment apparently just after taking a wizz (and I got in in the bowl too).

    It was immediately obvious I had a severe memory gap. As you can imagine this was very very disconcerting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    If you have answered YES to any one of the questions, there is a definite warning that you may be alcoholic.

    If you have answered YES to any two, the chances are that you are an alcoholic.

    If you have answered YES to three or more, you are definitely an alcoholic.

    1. Is drinking making your home life unhappy? no
    2. Does your drinking make you careless of your family’s welfare? no
    3. Do you drink because you are shy with other people? no
    4. Is drinking affecting your reputation? no
    5. Do you drink to escape from worries or trouble? nope
    6. Do you drink alone? sometimes
    7. Have you lost time from work due to drinking? yeah
    8. Has your ambition decreased since drinking? what the hell kinda question is that
    9. Has your efficiency decreased since drinking? no, i'm still a lazy git
    10. Is drinking jeopardising your job or business? nope
    11. Have you ever felt remorse after drinking? no
    12. Are you in financial difficulties as a result of drinking? yeah well this one time I ran out of money for drink and I only had enough for the nitelink home :(
    13. Do you turn to or seek an inferior environment when drinking? unfortuntely, i drink in Fibbers :rolleyes:
    14. Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily? yeah
    15. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping? No! the opposite effect
    16. Do you want a drink the next morning?no
    17. Do you drink to build up your self-confidence?nope
    18. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking?not that i know of
    19. Has your doctor ever treated you for drinking?nope
    20. Have you ever been in hospital or prison because of drinking?no

    :D
    En bloc is rarer where an entire time period is missing. Whats weird is that you can be perfectly aware and active during the period you cant remember ie yo have not passed out.

    That happened to me before, I missed a whole day and I was completely sober. It was very strange and very confusing. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Jimoslimos wrote:
    And the difference is.....?:confused:
    that's a question most people would answer yes to. since they're asking the same question twice, all they need is one more "yes" question and they can class you as an alco.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    well, i am an absolute raving alco so............anyone know where the nearest AA place is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Kell


    1. Is drinking making your home life unhappy? no
    2. Does your drinking make you careless of your family’s welfare? no
    3. Do you drink because you are shy with other people? no
    4. Is drinking affecting your reputation? no
    5. Do you drink to escape from worries or trouble? no
    6. Do you drink alone? A can or three watching a DVD or a scotch at the end of an evening
    7. Have you lost time from work due to drinking? no
    8. Has your ambition decreased since drinking? no
    9. Has your efficiency decreased since drinking? no
    10. Is drinking jeopardising your job or business? no
    11. Have you ever felt remorse after drinking? no
    12. Are you in financial difficulties as a result of drinking? no
    13. Do you turn to or seek an inferior environment when drinking? no
    14. Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily? no
    15. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping? no
    16. Do you want a drink the next morning? no
    17. Do you drink to build up your self-confidence? no
    18. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking? Yes.
    19. Has your doctor ever treated you for drinking? no
    20. Have you ever been in hospital or prison because of drinking? no. Does being detained overnight count??

    Its all bollíx designed, as some have said, to catch you unawares and get you thinking your an alcho. I have been on the píss for the last sixteen years, would reasonably often consume a bottle of vodka/scotch etc with mates, but no of which affect my ability to do anything the next day. Maybe I am a machine?

    K-


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭Maccattack


    I'm not an alcholic but the bloke I drink with every day is.:D


    In all seriosity though.

    I can say that:
    6. Do you drink alone?
    15. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?

    are me alright. Guess I must be.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    irishbird wrote:
    well, i am an absolute raving alco so............anyone know where the nearest AA place is?


    My house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    1. Is drinking making your home life unhappy? Nope
    2. Does your drinking make you careless of your family’s welfare? After the ninth or tenth pint they can make their own goddam dinner
    3. Do you drink because you are shy with other people? Nope
    4. Is drinking affecting your reputation? Yup - The more I drink - the more my drinking buddies think I am legendary!
    5. Do you drink to escape from worries or trouble? Yup
    6. Do you drink alone? Yup (Just me, a pint & The Irish Times after work - heaven)
    7. Have you lost time from work due to drinking? Do 3 hour lunchbreaks count?
    8. Has your ambition decreased since drinking? Nope
    9. Has your efficiency decreased since drinking? Nope
    10. Is drinking jeopardising your job or business? Nope
    11. Have you ever felt remorse after drinking? Yup - Who hasn't at some stage or another?
    12. Are you in financial difficulties as a result of drinking? Nope, I avoid drinking in overpriced Dublin city center bars with stupid fûcking names to justify sky-high prices
    13. Do you turn to or seek an inferior environment when drinking? I drink in an "inferior environment" to start with
    14. Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily? Nope - any ol' time will do
    15. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty in sleeping? Nope
    16. Do you want a drink the next morning? Only coffee
    17. Do you drink to build up your self-confidence? Nope
    18. Have you ever had a complete loss of memory as a result of drinking? 1987 to 1999 :D
    19. Has your doctor ever treated you for drinking? Nope
    20. Have you ever been in hospital or prison because of drinking? Nope


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    Said YES to 8. All the past tense questions are what piss me off. Surely that just means i may at one point have been an alcoholic or at risk of being.
    Oh, yeh and i think i've suffered every form of drink induced memory loss known to man.
    Still missing 4 hours from a couple of weeks ago. I was cycling home from town, blinked and it was 6:45, i was happily walking down the street bout 3 miles from last point. Haven't seen my bike since.
    Maybe i do have a problem...:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    DavyD_83 wrote:
    Maybe i do have a problem...:confused:

    Sore feet? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭louisecm


    I think there are a couple of things to consider here. First of all, I think this test is a bit skewed for the Irish because we have unhealthy drinking patterns anyway, and not always an addiction. Also, if you are someone who actively seeks out a test like this then the chances are you are someone who is concerned about your drinking anyway, which is indicative of a problem. Thirdly, the worst thing that could happen as a result of this test is that someone might think, I have a problem, go to a meeting and then be better able to assess themselves. I don't think tests like this were ever intended to be true diagnostic tools, just indicators. I think people should be careful before they write off an entire organisation based on something like this - unless you know alcoholism first hand, and have experience of AA you probably won't understand its workings - and don't need to. But for anybody out there who genuinely thinks they have a problem, you should check AA out before you make any decisions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    Hill Billy wrote:
    Sore feet? :D
    Yep.:( Spent another 2 hours drivin round lookin for the bike when i finally sobered up the next day, spent that one in beed. Problem is it could be pretty much anywhere on the southside of Dublin. Kinda given up at this stage. Maybe some day i'll spot it:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭So Glad


    According to this I am an alcoholic, although I am not such a thing. I do drink often, I enjoy going out to pubs with various friends, purely for the social part, the drinking just happens. I know of AA a lot due to my mother being in it for about 11 years and although it did stop her drinking it gave her a whole load of problems, all her friends were in AA and most people in AA are depressing, arrogant, problematic people so I'm not sure if it brought much good into her life to be honest.

    If anyone does have a drinking problem, if can be treated by you and you alone, it's your problem, you created it, you can fix it. Just, stop, drinking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    DavyD_83 wrote:
    Said YES to 8. All the past tense questions are what piss me off. Surely that just means i may at one point have been an alcoholic or at risk of being.
    Oh, yeh and i think i've suffered every form of drink induced memory loss known to man.
    Still missing 4 hours from a couple of weeks ago. I was cycling home from town, blinked and it was 6:45, i was happily walking down the street bout 3 miles from last point. Haven't seen my bike since.
    Maybe i do have a problem...:confused:

    Alien abduction is your problem ... did you have trouble walking straight afterwards or tenderness in your nether regions ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    professore wrote:
    did you have trouble walking straight afterwards or tenderness in your nether regions ?


    That doesn't necessarily mean "alien" abduction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭louisecm


    So Glad wrote:
    According to this I am an alcoholic, although I am not such a thing. I do drink often, I enjoy going out to pubs with various friends, purely for the social part, the drinking just happens. I know of AA a lot due to my mother being in it for about 11 years and although it did stop her drinking it gave her a whole load of problems, all her friends were in AA and most people in AA are depressing, arrogant, problematic people so I'm not sure if it brought much good into her life to be honest.

    If anyone does have a drinking problem, if can be treated by you and you alone, it's your problem, you created it, you can fix it. Just, stop, drinking.

    I respect that that is your experience, but it is not representative of everyone's experience. Unfortunately, "just, stopping, drinking" is not as easy as it sounds if you are an addict.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,532 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    How about substituting boards.ie for "drinking" in the questionnaire? Hick-up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭barrett1965


    I don't think that there is such a person as an alcoholic. Alcohol abuse is a form of 'acting out' It stems from an underlying personality disorder with the individual. Treat the individual and your remove the problem. Certainly, a person may have a drinking problem, but it is not the 'main' concern. It is only a physical manifisation. Substitute the word alcohol with anything else that's negatively affecting ones life and you get the exact same result.

    I prefer the term 'probelm drinker' instead. It's a much more acurate and less offensive description.

    My opinion is strictly non-professional, but I am a former problem drinker and so I feel I have some knowledge on the subject to comment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭angelbaby


    k now im in doubt to whether im an alcoholic or not!!!:confused:

    that is such a badly thought out questionnaire!!!i answered yes to 6 but im definately not an alcoholic!!!!im sure alot of people have drank so much on a night out that they cant remember it...but how the hell does that make you an alco?!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    I don't think that there is such a person as an alcoholic. Alcohol abuse is a form of 'acting out' It stems from an underlying personality disorder with the individual. Treat the individual and your remove the problem. Certainly, a person may have a drinking problem, but it is not the 'main' concern. It is only a physical manifisation. Substitute the word alcohol with anything else that's negatively affecting ones life and you get the exact same result.

    I prefer the term 'probelm drinker' instead. It's a much more acurate and less offensive description.

    My opinion is strictly non-professional, but I am a former problem drinker and so I feel I have some knowledge on the subject to comment.
    I disagree. I dont think the existence of problem drinkers as you define them excludes the existence of alcoholics.

    Remember there are two types of attiction, physical and emotional.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭kittenkiller


    Ay Ay Kraptain, I'm DEFINATELY an alcoholic!
    Cart me off right now!
    Just let me grab my bottle of vodka first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭barrett1965


    I want to clarify that if an individual feels they might have a drinking problem, then don't ignore it and hope it will go away. In my case it got worse at a very alarming rate, so much so that I was caught on the hop with the ammount of alcohol I ingested. If you think you have a drink problem, then you probably do. I would never be flipant about the negative aspect of alcohol abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭dame


    No, I'm not.

    I wish people would stop talking about the amount of alcohol they consume though. It's boring. Either you drink or you don't, who cares how much. If you think you might have a problem go and talk to an expert (medical person not expert drinker) and quit telling anyone with the misfortune to be near you how much you drank last night/at the weekend/whenever.

    Oh, and people with stale beer breath on the Luas in the mornings....please don't stand over me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Am I an alcoholic?

    If I'm in America, then yes, I am.

    If I'm in Ireland, no, I'm having a drink, what's your problem?

    Am I an alcoholic?

    Actually, yes, I probably am, but not in a way that harms my work, money, family, lifestyle, sleep. No, then, I'm not.

    Look, I like a drink, and often really, really want one. I often have many drinks, but I am a successful business owner, have a healthy and happy family, wake up sober every morning, don't abuse anyone. By some puritan's definitions I am an alcoholic and a danger to myself and others, but how do AA (or more particularly, the ad agency that drew up the questionaire) get to judge me. They don't know me.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Finally a test that I can pass. :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,532 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    6. Do you drink alone?
    Does this mean that you cannot have one small glass of wine (alone) with a meal cause it tastes good without becoming halfway qualified by this questionnaire as alcoholic? Get real!:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    dame wrote:
    I wish people would stop talking about the amount of alcohol they consume though. It's boring.
    The Americans love it though. The test is an AA recruitment tool, tbh. Whenever I read about the evils of drinking, I give up reading. My grandmother is over eighty and still doesn't need glasses. Drinks right out of the bottle. Or as Oscar Wilde said, work is the curse of the drinking classes. However since its 8am, my favourite has to be tequila; its not just for breakfast anymore! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    There are two types of memory loss, fragmented and en bloc.

    Fragmented is the common one, where you dont realise that memories are missing (cos you can piece together the night pretty well). You may remember the missing fragments when prompted.

    I think everyone has experienced fragmented memory loss at some stage of their drinking.

    I don't drink the majority of the time when I'm out and this still happens to me regularly. Often there's just too much going on on a night out to remember everything that happens, everyone remembers different aspects to the night out because the individual events may have more or less significance for each individual (that's my take on it anyway).

    Since Christmas I've had about 8 or 10 drinks, normally only one on each occasion for whatever reason. That doesn't say I can't occasionally drink others under the table, but frankly, that's a bit boring, and if that's the best thing you can claim about a night out, then maybe you didn't have as much fun as you think you did. However, according to that survey, because I fell and broke my foot when I was 17 (wet stairs, not used to high heels and tipsy = bad combination), because I got stupidly drunk at a cousin's 21st when I was 18 and as a result felt really, really guilty about making such a fool of myself because of alcohol at a family event that night... well, I'm a raging alco. I should really watch that.


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