Kilkenny Nazi wants to Jails Gays

jocmilt

Senator David Norris read this into Seanad records. It is a circulation of the Irish National Socialist Party by Michael McGrath of Kilkenny. He now styles himself Archdruid. I give lot of material and reference for any people who may be interested. He is a very unsavoury character.



“National Socialist Party: Smash AIDS Blitzkrieg”:
In Ireland, AIDS is being spread amongst all normal people by the Gay AIDS spreaders and the Junkies. The Government is afraid to tell you the truth. Thousands in Ireland are infected — hundreds of AIDS deaths have been covered up and the number dying will double every six months. Thanks to Queers, Junkies and Negroes visiting here, all of you are now at risk from the AIDS Black Death, right down to the pregnant women ... and a baby can be born with AIDS!!! Horrific. AIDS is as deadly as nuclear radiation. Help us in the National Socialist Party to break the conspiracy of silence among the knee-jerk liberals in Government. Join us. Act Now. Only we will tell you the truth. Only we will save you and your family from this Scourge of God.
Our “Smash AIDS Blitzkrieg” proposes:


1. Enforce the Law — ten years for homosexuals;
2. Enforce stringent AIDS-testing on all immigrants;
3. Intern all junkies, pushers etc., as Enemies of the People;
4. Daily testing of the Blood Bank for the AIDS virus;
5. Suspect Discos, Gay Bars, clubs, etc., to be burned down;
6. Execution of deliberate AIDS spreaders.



We were (and are) the first to commence a smash AIDS blitz. We will shortly issue a Guide on AIDS — the Real truth, not politicians' lies! We will tell you how to protect yourself, family, friends. For this, the National Socialist Party requires volunteers, funds, help!



Contact immediately — most urgent — SAE to:


Michael J. McGrath,
Chief Lieutenant,
National Socialist Party,
18 Dominic Street,
KilkennyCity.


This is the link. Senator Norris' contribution is about half way down the page.
http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/S/0121/S.0121.198811300008.html


There is much more on the subject including newspaper articles at http://guydecervens.bravehost.com/

Boston

He's got some solid points there. I mean we do like our Aids, and sure he say only to lock up the Gays, so Bisexuals should be fine and sure didn't the george burn down only afew months back.

superboy

Hey, didn't somebody have a song about this guy - think it went like this "What a scummy man, just give him half a chance......"

snappieT

Right...
Glad I didn't vote socialist today...

Dudess

Wo, snappieT! Don't let Joe Higgins hear you!!! This freak isn't a member of the Socialist Party, but the Irish National Socialist Party - not even a legitimate political party. It doesn't even have a website.

Here is a definition of National Socialism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

NOT to be confused with socialism!

snappieT

*slaps head*
I misread that!

Doesn't matter anyway, no socialist candidate in Dublin North Central.

Dudess

Very confusing indeed.

National Socialist Workers Party

Couldn't be further from the two!

johnnygroup

19 years ago!

Dudess

Oh yeah, I see that now! 1988! Well, he clearly made much headway in the past two decades!
Actually, I remember seeing an article about some Nazi guy in the Irish Examiner (Cork Examiner at the time) around then and being really frightened, as I was only a kid and just learning who the Nazis were. My dad reassured me I had nothing to worry about - I believe he was right.

uberwolf

he hasn't got it all wrong. Hasn't no.3 only recently passed through into McDowell law in a manner?

BuffyBot

5. Suspect Discos, Gay Bars, clubs, etc., to be burned down;

ROFL. I love this. Not just closed..but BURNED. CLEANSING FIREEEEEEEE!

Mawg

The possibility that freaks like this could have influence over people scares me. It really does.

Stark

Dudess wrote:

Oh yeah, I see that now! 1988! Well, he clearly made much headway in the past two decades!

Ah. I was wondering about the "Enforce the law" bit.

If the rate of deaths from HIV was doubling every 6 months, shouldn't everyone in Ireland be dead by now?

Dudess

Mawg wrote:

The possibility that freaks like this could have influence over people scares me. It really does.

Well it's 19 years ago and he doesn't seem to have influenced many people in this country which, let's face it, isn't the worst but it's not exactly a bastian of tolerance either.

Stark

Stark wrote:

If the rate of deaths from HIV was doubling every 6 months, shouldn't everyone in Ireland be dead by now?

But we all died in a plane crash last year sometime ...
Sawyer is our leader.


(as for the 19 yr old scribe,theres probably people who still think that way-Robert mugabe is one, amongst other loonies)

Dudess

Fred Phelps would be so gay for this dude!

Marksie

archdruid?
Not exactly fundamentalist christian right is he?

Hmm somebody call mossad they will have a van round in no time.

Is he still knocking around?

Hmm_Messiah

What a strange thing to post - not exactly topical is it ?

The person mentioned is a figure of ridicule in my home town. There would be presumptions not only of alcoholism but also mental illness etc.

As I recall growing up the opinion of class mates, rumours etc were in fact that he was gay.

Really stupid to give the man any attention - leave that to the maybe 11 people who have ever supported him .



Being a pagan I was always more disappointed/ annoyed that he took on this mantle of druidism and the media including RTE acknowledged it !

Dudess

Hmm_Messiah wrote:

but also mental illness

Apparently so. Bipolar disorder I think. Wouldn't be one bit surprised if he was gay, or if Fred Phelps was.

iBoards

Dudess wrote:

Bipolar disorder I think..

I once felt a little bi polar, and guess what ? he liked it



Seriously though in 2007 - this is quite sad in all honesty.

Boston

iBoards wrote:

I once felt a little bi polar, and guess what ? he liked it

Wow, you're just hilarious, I can see we're going to be the best of friends.

Nevyn

Marksie wrote:

archdruid?
Not exactly fundamentalist christian right is he?

Hmm somebody call mossad they will have a van round in no time.

Is he still knocking around?

Yes he is.
Indymedia is one of his stomping grounds and he has been trying to reclaim Tara and is one of the splinter groups up there misbehaving and casting slurs on people to the extent of saying that certain people had recently murdered someone for ritual purposes.

http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/apgnhw1.htm

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/76419

Sunday Mirror December 24 2006
I asked cops to guard me at Solstice after threats from a rival druid

Ireland’s druids needed Garda protection during their winter solstice celebrations after a series of death threats against their leader from a rival. Archdruid Con Connor led a small band of followers outside Newgrange to mark one of the highpoints in the Druid calendar flanked by a Garda squad car. Rival druid leader Michael McGrath, who calls himself the archdruid of Tara has told his supporters to shoot rival Con Connor “on sight”.
Druid Connor took the threats so seriously he called for Garda protection for the ceremony on Friday to mark the shortest day. A Garda spokesman said: “we were there to make sure nobody disturbed the ceremony”,
Dark Moon Grove Archdruid Connor said: “I have exposed him as a fascist and now he is threatening to have me killed. This madman should be in care but instead he is running around issuing death threats. Mr McGrath needs to enter into medical healing and by that I mean heavy sedatives. He is not a real druid. He has just made up some organisation and he only has a couple of followers”.
Right-wing McGrath who once described Hitler as a “genius”, admitted using websites to call for Connors execution. Last week McGrath used a nazi website (Details of nazi site hidden by indymedia moderator in line with our 'No Platform' policy) to call on his followers to murder Connor and one of his druids.
He said, “between these couple of commie queers, I could commit murder. These are the only two scum that I am interested in. Everybody but everybody knows I hate queers. Shoot him on site if you see him”.
The self-styled archdruid of Tara was previously convicted for putting up hate-filled notices about a Garda officer in Kilkenny.
McGrath stood for election in 1985 calling for “all non-white doctors” to be kicked out of Kilkenny. He also called for all gay men to be automatically jailed for ten years to stop the spread of AIDS.
McGrath also tried to organise a new racist party on a fascist website after the murder of Kilkenny postman Alan Cunniffe.
Last night Mr Connor said, “I have never met Michael McGrath face to face . I have never even spoken to him over the phone. I have no intention or wish to meet the man. Pagans are people who connect with the earth and the goddess. But McGrath claims he is a Catholic druid, which is a bit like saying you are a pagan Jew. It doesn’t make sense. McGrath is a fascist who was humiliated when he stood for election so he decided to present himself as a druid”.
Last night Mr McGrath claimed he “regretted” some of the language he had used on the internet. He said “Connor is a vicious little English pagan and I do wish he was dead. But some of the language I used about gay people was excessive. It was just done in the heat of the moment”.
McGrath denied he had ever stood for election for the National Socialist Irish Workers Party. He claimed: “there was another Michael McGrath who operated out of this same address in Kilkenny. But he was a totally different person. I heard he died over ten years ago in England. I have said I admired the German economic miracles of the years 1933 to 1938. National Socialist economies were the best, with full employment and the German worker earning the best wages and conditions. I still hold to the belief that Hitler was a genius up until 1938 when he went insane and in his totalitarian madness launched the Holocaust

To say that Micheal McGrath is deranged is quite frankly an understatement.

Oh and Mark he is a christian druid, I know I know the oxymoron.

Irish Wolf

Thaedydal wrote:

Yes he is.
Indymedia is one of his stomping grounds and he has been trying to reclaim Tara and is one of the splinter groups up there misbehaving and casting slurs on people to the extent of saying that certain people had recently murdered someone for ritual purposes.

http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/apgnhw1.htm

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/76419



To say that Micheal McGrath is deranged is quite frankly an understatement.

Oh and Mark he is a christian druid, I know I know the oxymoron.

lol... a cathoholic druid... more moron than oxy tbh...

Marksie

Thaedydal wrote:

To say that Micheal McGrath is deranged is quite frankly an understatement.

Oh and Mark he is a christian druid, I know I know the oxymoron.

By all thats holy, unholy or somewhere in between. Someone to stay far far away from

joseph dawton

McGrath is still actively bashing gays and anyone who he doesn't like, especially druids who do not recognise him as 'archdruid of Ireland'.
He features a lot on stormfront.org which is a white-supremacist site where he has posted his vitriol over the last year or so.

I hear through the grapevine that there is a new website going up soon as an exposé of all his lies and mischief to date so that inexperienced and guilible pagans will be able to find out the whole story quickly and easily.

jocmilt

Michael McGrath is still active as a neo Nazi. If you check the link to 'guydecervens' site you will see he was recently trying to form a group using the Ku Klux Klan website Stormfront.

Yes the Socialist part is the complete opposite of the Irish National Socialist Party to which McGrath belonged. The other leading member was Terry Dempster from Cork. RTE did a documentary on him and his nazi-uniformed crew training in a park outside Cork park. The Sunday World also did an article on him where he posed in his uniform in front of German Nazi flags.

Stark

Stormfront is still active as well but who cares.

Talliesin

Hmm_Messiah wrote:

There would be presumptions not only of alcoholism but also mental illness etc.

The fact that he's never sober sort of gives that impression.

Irish Wolf wrote:

lol... a cathoholic druid... more moron than oxy tbh...

Actually, he did once call himself a Pagan. After one particular episode when he got even more roundly told to go **** himself by an even larger cross-section of the Pagan community than normal he changed that one.

A good while ago some of the more hands-on anti-fascists decided to do something about him. Then they decided he was of more danger to himself than anyone else, so they didn't.

jocmilt

Here's more on the Homophobe McGrath

http://guydecervens.googlepages.com/

David Norris gives a good descripting of how the Hischfeld Centre was burned when he was there. He also points out that one of the main points in McGraths manifesto is to "burn all gay establishments".

Michael McGrath is very dangerous. People should be warned about him and not just think that he is a crazy old twit that will go away.

Twinkle-star15

I just laughed when I read this! I mean...*shakes head*. Kind of hard to believe some people still think Hitler had the right idea...

karen3212

If he burned a centre, why isn't he in jail or receiving treatment for his disorder.

I am a firm believer in free speech and non-violence, all we should do is continue to tell people why all human beings need to have equal rights, as people are here.

But I am wondering why if he is advocating violence he hasn't been arrested?

jocmilt

Senator Norris didn't say Michael McGrath was directly involved in the arson attack and attempted murder at the Hirschfeld Centre. In fact, nobody was ever apprehended or questioned for that attack. The point Sentaor Norris was making is that one of the aims of Michael McGrath and his Neo-Nazi chums, as stated in thier 'Blitzkreig Manifesto' is the burning of Gay Centres.

Free Speech is indeed a valuable gift but Mr McGrath is definitely not non-violent. He openly espouses 'Execution' which sounds just a tad violent to me. It is indeed interesting that despiite the fact he has 6 convictions for public order offences the Garda never sought a conviction for incitement to hatred or some allied offence. Would this be because the Garda were founded by Eoin O'Duffy who was also a Neo-Nazi and supporter of Hitler? They haven't gone away you know!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueshirts

aidan24326

You would hope that very few people will take this loon seriously, or want to act on what he proposes in his 'manifesto'.

Victor

jocmilt wrote:

It is indeed interesting that despiite the fact he has 6 convictions for public order offences the Garda never sought a conviction for incitement to hatred or some allied offence.

I suspect the problem lies with the Oireachtas, not the Garda. There has only been one prosecution for incitement to hatred and theat was overturned.

jocmilt wrote:

Would this be because the Garda were founded by Eoin O'Duffy

I would think it was the State / Oireachtas founded the Garda, not O'Duffy.

who was also a Neo-Nazi

How could a 1930s figure be a Neo-Nazi?

and supporter of Hitler?

Not much evidence of that particular point. He appeared to be very much more the anti-communist pro-Catholic type of fascist, not a Nazi as such.

They haven't gone away you know! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueshirts

I think they have gone away.

jocmilt

You are absoloutely correct in pointing out my error in referring to Eoin O'Duffy, the founder of An Garda Siochana as a "neo nazi". He was in fact simply a Fascist. He was not a member of the German Nazi party but was part of the European Fascist movement. It is true he was an ultra Catholic and anti communist but none the less he was a Fascist. But drawing historical disctictions between neo-nazis and fascists is more of an acedemic exercise than a real issue. Was it fascists or neo-nazis who set fire to the Hirschfeld Centre? Would it matter if you were burned to death by them?

But thanks Victor, I accept your correction.

Unfortunately the Neo-Nazis have not gone away. McGrath still writes on Stormfront as 'DruidEire' and racially abuses immigrants, gay people, travellers and others who oppose him. His efforts to form another group 'The League of Irish Patriots' has not led to anything as they are few in number but he is still doing his best. I have only today received new material which I must check before publishing. It appears to show a leading British Druid responding to him and discussing plans to "take care of the Queers". I have contacted the British Druid to see if he will deny the comments of make further comment but as yet I have not had a reply. If he does not respond in a reasonable time period it will be published here with a note that the person whose name is on the letter did not deny it was written by him.

ixoy

jocmilt wrote:

If he does not respond in a reasonable time period it will be published here with a note that the person whose name is on the letter did not deny it was written by him.

Please do not publish anything here that could possibly be litigious. I've a responsibility to protect boards, as an entity, from material that may have legal repercussions and I don't want to have to excise powers of moderating to excise content or posters to protect that interest.

johnplayerblue

iBoards wrote:

I once felt a little bi polar, and guess what ? he liked it



Seriously though in 2007 - this is quite sad in all honesty.

short ones are always the best

Dudess

jocmilt wrote:

Terry Dempster from Cork

Oh yeah, that's the guy I read about in the Cork Examiner back in the late 80s. I remember they totally ripped the piss out of him in the article.

jocmilt

Here is one of his recent postings. I wonder if there are any traveller groups in the Kilkenny area that might like to correct him on this? Is this incitement to hatred? Can the Government or Police do anything?


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.druid/browse_thread/thread/5d02d6302cfa36d7/b9d5a4be57574e36?lnk=st&q=&rnum=37#b9d5a4be57574e36

<abridged>


"NO, KNACKERS ARE NOT HOMO SAPIENS, YOU ARE NOT DEALING WITH HUMANS
WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH KNACKERS. THEY ARE THE ONE
THING, A SORT OF HYBRID, THAT IRELAND WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR LAUNCHING ON
THE WORLD AND WHICH WE DEEPLY REGRET AS THE WORLD IS NOT ABLE TO
HANDLE THEM. THEY ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF THE DAOR, THE SLAVES UNDER
THE DRUIDS. THEY ARE THEREFORE, AS DAOR DESCENDANTS, SUBHUMAN - BUT
THEY ARE THE CLEVEREST ON EARTH.
AVOID THEM LIKE THE PLAGUE, DO NOT TRADE BUY OR SELL ANYTHING, HAVE
NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM, FOR THEY WILL GRADUALLY GET TO KNOW YOU,
WHERE YOU LIVE, WHAT YOU DO, EVERY LAST DETAIL ABOUT YOU, AS CONNORS
TRIES TO DO WITH ME, THEN THEY WILL TAKE OVER YOUR HOUSE, YOUR LIFE ,
UNTIL FINALLY, YOU WILL ACTUALLY BECOME ONE OF THEM AND SETTLE DOWN
TO SHARE THEIR SLAVERY WITH THEM.
FROM THE MOMENT YOU MAKE THE SLIGHTEST AGREEMENT WITH A KNACKER , YOUR
LIFE, AS YOU KNOW IT, IS OVER.
FOR THEY ARE BORN AND TRAINED TO THIS AND TO NO OTHER THING.
THEY ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF THE DAOR, SLAVES TO THE DRUIDS, AND NOW
YOU STILL ONLY HAVE A FAINT IDEA OF WHAT A KNACKER IS.


BE BRAVE BE PURE, BE VIGILANT


Michael McGrath
Archdruid of Ireland

Stark

jocmilt wrote:

Here is one of his recent postings. I wonder if there are any traveller groups in the Kilkenny area that might like to correct him on this? Is this incitement to hatred? Can the Government or Police do anything?

An awful lot to get worked up over one petty nutjob. This thread alone is more attention than the guy is worth in my opinion.

jocmilt wrote:

Is this incitement to hatred?

I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if the intent is enough or not. But I doubt even the most prejudiced of persons is going to start believing that travellers are a hybrid of homo sapiens and "druid species" on account of his capslock rant.

Hypatia

jocmilt wrote:

Senator David Norris read this into Seanad records. It is a circulation of the Irish National Socialist Party by Michael McGrath of Kilkenny. He now styles himself Archdruid. I give lot of material and reference for any people who may be interested. He is a very unsavoury character.



“National Socialist Party: Smash AIDS Blitzkrieg”:
In Ireland, AIDS is being spread amongst all normal people by the Gay AIDS spreaders and the Junkies. The Government is afraid to tell you the truth. Thousands in Ireland are infected — hundreds of AIDS deaths have been covered up and the number dying will double every six months. Thanks to Queers, Junkies and Negroes visiting here, all of you are now at risk from the AIDS Black Death, right down to the pregnant women ... and a baby can be born with AIDS!!! Horrific. AIDS is as deadly as nuclear radiation. Help us in the National Socialist Party to break the conspiracy of silence among the knee-jerk liberals in Government. Join us. Act Now. Only we will tell you the truth. Only we will save you and your family from this Scourge of God.
Our “Smash AIDS Blitzkrieg” proposes:


1. Enforce the Law — ten years for homosexuals;
2. Enforce stringent AIDS-testing on all immigrants;
3. Intern all junkies, pushers etc., as Enemies of the People;
4. Daily testing of the Blood Bank for the AIDS virus;
5. Suspect Discos, Gay Bars, clubs, etc., to be burned down;
6. Execution of deliberate AIDS spreaders.



We were (and are) the first to commence a smash AIDS blitz. We will shortly issue a Guide on AIDS — the Real truth, not politicians' lies! We will tell you how to protect yourself, family, friends. For this, the National Socialist Party requires volunteers, funds, help!



Contact immediately — most urgent — SAE to:


Michael J. McGrath,
Chief Lieutenant,
National Socialist Party,
18 Dominic Street,
KilkennyCity.


This is the link. Senator Norris' contribution is about half way down the page.
http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/S/0121/S.0121.198811300008.html


There is much more on the subject including newspaper articles at http://guydecervens.bravehost.com/

Maybe this guy should be put inside instead:)

I have read Mein Kampf and a few of the other rants that teh Nazi's came out with. If this guy did, he would know that he is classed as Undermensch. Could go into a whole speel, but at the end of the day, upon conquest of all of Europe, the Irish would be in a gas chamber.

On a serious point. I do agree with medical tests particulay on those from outside the Euroepan Union as quick a few of them need medical treatment. Then theycan get sorted out in hospital and come in.

I would like to see all immigrant being given vaccinations up to the same standards as the rest of us. That would quickly remove the disease among immigrants argument.

As for him being against gays. Hitler put about 15000 in gas chambers. Doe she suppott gassing the, if so he should say publicaly, I am sure someone could find him a nice gas bottle to breathe from.

Gays doesn't spread AIDS/HIV. Ignorance, stupidity and bigotry spreads AIDS/HIV. Educate the people to a decent standard not just the brushing over that presently occurs in catholic schools from perverts such as chritian brothers and nuns, who are for the most part gay themselves. They should remove the hypocrisy from Irish society.

As for that idiot being a druid. He should look at the hisotry of Druidism. A lot were homosexual. Haemophrodites [intersex in todays language] were at the top of the druid pile. This guuys stupidity appears to know no boundaries, then again Hitler didn't have a clue about German history, either.

UU

Dudess wrote:

Fred Phelps would be so gay for this dude!

Actually speaking of Fred Phelps apparantly Ireland is now on his hate list. According to his new website - www.godhatesireland.com - where some Phelps person is jumping on the Ireland flag and he says we as a fag country with fag government and fag Catholic Church. I am getting the impression he really likes us!!! Maybe I will invite him over for Paddys Day. Could be fun!

CrazyTalk

That site is astounding

JupiterKid

This extremely homophobic "druid" guy sounds like a complete nut job - just like dear ol' Fred Phelps. Best to ignore these crackpot hate mongers and not give them the oxygen of publicity which they crave.:rolleyes:

The_Minister

I thought that you guys might like to know that this guy has raised his head again. He wrote a long letter in a local paper, talking about druids respecting nature, and becoming the new Greens. He may be becoming politically active again.

Nevyn

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055138978

www.fakedruid.org

the flananator

jocmilt wrote:

Senator David Norris read this into Seanad records. It is a circulation of the Irish National Socialist Party by Michael McGrath of Kilkenny. He now styles himself Archdruid. I give lot of material and reference for any people who may be interested. He is a very unsavoury character.



“National Socialist Party: Smash AIDS Blitzkrieg”:
In Ireland, AIDS is being spread amongst all normal people by the Gay AIDS spreaders and the Junkies. The Government is afraid to tell you the truth. Thousands in Ireland are infected — hundreds of AIDS deaths have been covered up and the number dying will double every six months. Thanks to Queers, Junkies and Negroes visiting here, all of you are now at risk from the AIDS Black Death, right down to the pregnant women ... and a baby can be born with AIDS!!! Horrific. AIDS is as deadly as nuclear radiation. Help us in the National Socialist Party to break the conspiracy of silence among the knee-jerk liberals in Government. Join us. Act Now. Only we will tell you the truth. Only we will save you and your family from this Scourge of God.
Our “Smash AIDS Blitzkrieg” proposes:


1. Enforce the Law — ten years for homosexuals;
2. Enforce stringent AIDS-testing on all immigrants;
3. Intern all junkies, pushers etc., as Enemies of the People;
4. Daily testing of the Blood Bank for the AIDS virus;
5. Suspect Discos, Gay Bars, clubs, etc., to be burned down;
6. Execution of deliberate AIDS spreaders.



We were (and are) the first to commence a smash AIDS blitz. We will shortly issue a Guide on AIDS — the Real truth, not politicians' lies! We will tell you how to protect yourself, family, friends. For this, the National Socialist Party requires volunteers, funds, help!



Contact immediately — most urgent — SAE to:


Michael J. McGrath,
Chief Lieutenant,
National Socialist Party,
18 Dominic Street,
KilkennyCity.


This is the link. Senator Norris' contribution is about half way down the page.
http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/S/0121/S.0121.198811300008.html


There is much more on the subject including newspaper articles at http://guydecervens.bravehost.com/

An unsavory character perhaps, but a legend all the same.

Annasopra

He has announced he is running in Dublin Bay South By Election

Also had this to say in 2014 re Marriage Equality

https://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/12/10/anything-good-in-the-kilkenny-journal/

beertons

14 years. He might have changed his tune since.

Annasopra

beertons wrote: »

14 years. He might have changed his tune since.

Well only 7 since marriage referendum so not quite

https://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/12/10/anything-good-in-the-kilkenny-journal/

L1011

beertons wrote: »

14 years. He might have changed his tune since.

Unlikely. Got worse realistically