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Kilkenny Nazi wants to Jails Gays

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  • 24-05-2007 6:45pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭


    Senator David Norris read this into Seanad records. It is a circulation of the Irish National Socialist Party by Michael McGrath of Kilkenny. He now styles himself Archdruid. I give lot of material and reference for any people who may be interested. He is a very unsavoury character.



    “National Socialist Party: Smash AIDS Blitzkrieg”:
    In Ireland, AIDS is being spread amongst all normal people by the Gay AIDS spreaders and the Junkies. The Government is afraid to tell you the truth. Thousands in Ireland are infected — hundreds of AIDS deaths have been covered up and the number dying will double every six months. Thanks to Queers, Junkies and Negroes visiting here, all of you are now at risk from the AIDS Black Death, right down to the pregnant women ... and a baby can be born with AIDS!!! Horrific. AIDS is as deadly as nuclear radiation. Help us in the National Socialist Party to break the conspiracy of silence among the knee-jerk liberals in Government. Join us. Act Now. Only we will tell you the truth. Only we will save you and your family from this Scourge of God.
    Our “Smash AIDS Blitzkrieg” proposes:


    1. Enforce the Law — ten years for homosexuals;
    2. Enforce stringent AIDS-testing on all immigrants;
    3. Intern all junkies, pushers etc., as Enemies of the People;
    4. Daily testing of the Blood Bank for the AIDS virus;
    5. Suspect Discos, Gay Bars, clubs, etc., to be burned down;
    6. Execution of deliberate AIDS spreaders.



    We were (and are) the first to commence a smash AIDS blitz. We will shortly issue a Guide on AIDS — the Real truth, not politicians' lies! We will tell you how to protect yourself, family, friends. For this, the National Socialist Party requires volunteers, funds, help!



    Contact immediately — most urgent — SAE to:


    Michael J. McGrath,
    Chief Lieutenant,
    National Socialist Party,
    18 Dominic Street,
    KilkennyCity.


    This is the link. Senator Norris' contribution is about half way down the page.
    http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/S/0121/S.0121.198811300008.html


    There is much more on the subject including newspaper articles at http://guydecervens.bravehost.com/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    He's got some solid points there. I mean we do like our Aids, and sure he say only to lock up the Gays, so Bisexuals should be fine and sure didn't the george burn down only afew months back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭superboy


    Hey, didn't somebody have a song about this guy - think it went like this "What a scummy man, just give him half a chance......"


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭snappieT


    Right...
    Glad I didn't vote socialist today...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Wo, snappieT! Don't let Joe Higgins hear you!!! This freak isn't a member of the Socialist Party, but the Irish National Socialist Party - not even a legitimate political party. It doesn't even have a website.

    Here is a definition of National Socialism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

    NOT to be confused with socialism!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭snappieT


    *slaps head*
    I misread that!

    Doesn't matter anyway, no socialist candidate in Dublin North Central.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Very confusing indeed.

    National Socialist Workers Party

    Couldn't be further from the two!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 johnnygroup


    19 years ago!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Oh yeah, I see that now! 1988! Well, he clearly made much headway in the past two decades! ;)
    Actually, I remember seeing an article about some Nazi guy in the Irish Examiner (Cork Examiner at the time) around then and being really frightened, as I was only a kid and just learning who the Nazis were. My dad reassured me I had nothing to worry about - I believe he was right. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,578 ✭✭✭uberwolf


    he hasn't got it all wrong. Hasn't no.3 only recently passed through into McDowell law in a manner?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 24,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    5. Suspect Discos, Gay Bars, clubs, etc., to be burned down;

    ROFL. I love this. Not just closed..but BURNED. CLEANSING FIREEEEEEEE!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 99 ✭✭Mawg


    The possibility that freaks like this could have influence over people scares me. It really does.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,895 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Dudess wrote:
    Oh yeah, I see that now! 1988! Well, he clearly made much headway in the past two decades! ;)

    Ah. I was wondering about the "Enforce the law" bit.

    If the rate of deaths from HIV was doubling every 6 months, shouldn't everyone in Ireland be dead by now? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Mawg wrote:
    The possibility that freaks like this could have influence over people scares me. It really does.

    Well it's 19 years ago and he doesn't seem to have influenced many people in this country which, let's face it, isn't the worst but it's not exactly a bastian of tolerance either.


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    Stark wrote:

    If the rate of deaths from HIV was doubling every 6 months, shouldn't everyone in Ireland be dead by now? :)
    But we all died in a plane crash last year sometime ...
    Sawyer is our leader.


    (as for the 19 yr old scribe,theres probably people who still think that way-Robert mugabe is one, amongst other loonies)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Fred Phelps would be so gay for this dude!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    archdruid?
    Not exactly fundamentalist christian right is he?

    Hmm somebody call mossad they will have a van round in no time.

    Is he still knocking around?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,964 ✭✭✭Hmm_Messiah


    What a strange thing to post - not exactly topical is it ?

    The person mentioned is a figure of ridicule in my home town. There would be presumptions not only of alcoholism but also mental illness etc.

    As I recall growing up the opinion of class mates, rumours etc were in fact that he was gay.

    Really stupid to give the man any attention - leave that to the maybe 11 people who have ever supported him .



    Being a pagan I was always more disappointed/ annoyed that he took on this mantle of druidism and the media including RTE acknowledged it !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    but also mental illness

    Apparently so. Bipolar disorder I think. Wouldn't be one bit surprised if he was gay, or if Fred Phelps was.


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭iBoards


    Dudess wrote:
    Bipolar disorder I think..

    I once felt a little bi polar, and guess what ? he liked it :D



    Seriously though in 2007 - this is quite sad in all honesty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    iBoards wrote:
    I once felt a little bi polar, and guess what ? he liked it :D

    Wow, you're just hilarious, I can see we're going to be the best of friends.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Marksie wrote:
    archdruid?
    Not exactly fundamentalist christian right is he?

    Hmm somebody call mossad they will have a van round in no time.

    Is he still knocking around?


    Yes he is.
    Indymedia is one of his stomping grounds and he has been trying to reclaim Tara and is one of the splinter groups up there misbehaving and casting slurs on people to the extent of saying that certain people had recently murdered someone for ritual purposes.

    http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/apgnhw1.htm

    http://www.indymedia.ie/article/76419
    Sunday Mirror December 24 2006
    I asked cops to guard me at Solstice after threats from a rival druid

    Ireland’s druids needed Garda protection during their winter solstice celebrations after a series of death threats against their leader from a rival. Archdruid Con Connor led a small band of followers outside Newgrange to mark one of the highpoints in the Druid calendar flanked by a Garda squad car. Rival druid leader Michael McGrath, who calls himself the archdruid of Tara has told his supporters to shoot rival Con Connor “on sight”.
    Druid Connor took the threats so seriously he called for Garda protection for the ceremony on Friday to mark the shortest day. A Garda spokesman said: “we were there to make sure nobody disturbed the ceremony”,
    Dark Moon Grove Archdruid Connor said: “I have exposed him as a fascist and now he is threatening to have me killed. This madman should be in care but instead he is running around issuing death threats. Mr McGrath needs to enter into medical healing and by that I mean heavy sedatives. He is not a real druid. He has just made up some organisation and he only has a couple of followers”.
    Right-wing McGrath who once described Hitler as a “genius”, admitted using websites to call for Connors execution. Last week McGrath used a nazi website (Details of nazi site hidden by indymedia moderator in line with our 'No Platform' policy) to call on his followers to murder Connor and one of his druids.
    He said, “between these couple of commie queers, I could commit murder. These are the only two scum that I am interested in. Everybody but everybody knows I hate queers. Shoot him on site if you see him”.
    The self-styled archdruid of Tara was previously convicted for putting up hate-filled notices about a Garda officer in Kilkenny.
    McGrath stood for election in 1985 calling for “all non-white doctors” to be kicked out of Kilkenny. He also called for all gay men to be automatically jailed for ten years to stop the spread of AIDS.
    McGrath also tried to organise a new racist party on a fascist website after the murder of Kilkenny postman Alan Cunniffe.
    Last night Mr Connor said, “I have never met Michael McGrath face to face . I have never even spoken to him over the phone. I have no intention or wish to meet the man. Pagans are people who connect with the earth and the goddess. But McGrath claims he is a Catholic druid, which is a bit like saying you are a pagan Jew. It doesn’t make sense. McGrath is a fascist who was humiliated when he stood for election so he decided to present himself as a druid”.
    Last night Mr McGrath claimed he “regretted” some of the language he had used on the internet. He said “Connor is a vicious little English pagan and I do wish he was dead. But some of the language I used about gay people was excessive. It was just done in the heat of the moment”.
    McGrath denied he had ever stood for election for the National Socialist Irish Workers Party. He claimed: “there was another Michael McGrath who operated out of this same address in Kilkenny. But he was a totally different person. I heard he died over ten years ago in England. I have said I admired the German economic miracles of the years 1933 to 1938. National Socialist economies were the best, with full employment and the German worker earning the best wages and conditions. I still hold to the belief that Hitler was a genius up until 1938 when he went insane and in his totalitarian madness launched the Holocaust

    To say that Micheal McGrath is deranged is quite frankly an understatement.

    Oh and Mark he is a christian druid, I know I know the oxymoron.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭Irish Wolf


    Thaedydal wrote:
    Yes he is.
    Indymedia is one of his stomping grounds and he has been trying to reclaim Tara and is one of the splinter groups up there misbehaving and casting slurs on people to the extent of saying that certain people had recently murdered someone for ritual purposes.

    http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/apgnhw1.htm

    http://www.indymedia.ie/article/76419



    To say that Micheal McGrath is deranged is quite frankly an understatement.

    Oh and Mark he is a christian druid, I know I know the oxymoron.

    lol... a cathoholic druid... more moron than oxy tbh... :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    Thaedydal wrote:
    To say that Micheal McGrath is deranged is quite frankly an understatement.

    Oh and Mark he is a christian druid, I know I know the oxymoron.

    By all thats holy, unholy or somewhere in between. Someone to stay far far away from


  • Registered Users Posts: 195 ✭✭joseph dawton


    McGrath is still actively bashing gays and anyone who he doesn't like, especially druids who do not recognise him as 'archdruid of Ireland'.
    He features a lot on stormfront.org which is a white-supremacist site where he has posted his vitriol over the last year or so.

    I hear through the grapevine that there is a new website going up soon as an exposé of all his lies and mischief to date so that inexperienced and guilible pagans will be able to find out the whole story quickly and easily.


  • Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭jocmilt


    Michael McGrath is still active as a neo Nazi. If you check the link to 'guydecervens' site you will see he was recently trying to form a group using the Ku Klux Klan website Stormfront.

    Yes the Socialist part is the complete opposite of the Irish National Socialist Party to which McGrath belonged. The other leading member was Terry Dempster from Cork. RTE did a documentary on him and his nazi-uniformed crew training in a park outside Cork park. The Sunday World also did an article on him where he posed in his uniform in front of German Nazi flags.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,895 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Stormfront is still active as well but who cares.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    There would be presumptions not only of alcoholism but also mental illness etc.
    The fact that he's never sober sort of gives that impression.
    Irish Wolf wrote:
    lol... a cathoholic druid... more moron than oxy tbh... :p
    Actually, he did once call himself a Pagan. After one particular episode when he got even more roundly told to go **** himself by an even larger cross-section of the Pagan community than normal he changed that one.

    A good while ago some of the more hands-on anti-fascists decided to do something about him. Then they decided he was of more danger to himself than anyone else, so they didn't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭jocmilt


    Here's more on the Homophobe McGrath

    http://guydecervens.googlepages.com/

    David Norris gives a good descripting of how the Hischfeld Centre was burned when he was there. He also points out that one of the main points in McGraths manifesto is to "burn all gay establishments".

    Michael McGrath is very dangerous. People should be warned about him and not just think that he is a crazy old twit that will go away.


  • Registered Users Posts: 392 ✭✭Twinkle-star15


    I just laughed when I read this! I mean...*shakes head*. Kind of hard to believe some people still think Hitler had the right idea...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 668 ✭✭✭karen3212


    If he burned a centre, why isn't he in jail or receiving treatment for his disorder.

    I am a firm believer in free speech and non-violence, all we should do is continue to tell people why all human beings need to have equal rights, as people are here.

    But I am wondering why if he is advocating violence he hasn't been arrested?


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