What body fat % is this body?

LegacyUser

What body fat % is this animal? Fabio Cannavaro - Italy and Real Madrid defender. It looks around 8%...

daveirl

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Money Shot

I don't think it matters. He is a professional sportsman - I'm sure there are far better performance indicators that he'd be concerned with.

Besides, he looks in great shape whether he's 15%, 10% or 8%. I take it, based on you posting that picture, that you are female cheesedude ??

Hanley

Money Shot wrote:

I don't think it matters. He is a professional sportsman - I'm sure there are far better performance indicators that he'd be concerned with.

Besides, he looks in great shape whether he's 15%, 10% or 8%. I take it, based on you posting that picture, that you are female cheesedude ??

Jesus he asked a simple question... He didnt' say that FB was a good 'baller cos of his low Bf%.

Cheesedude, I'd go with single digits. 7/8% maybe

Vegeta

yeah 8/9% maybe

Tar.Aldarion

10% imo.

LegacyUser

Money Shot wrote:

I don't think it matters. He is a professional sportsman - I'm sure there are far better performance indicators that he'd be concerned with.

Besides, he looks in great shape whether he's 15%, 10% or 8%. I take it, based on you posting that picture, that you are female cheesedude ??

Well it matters to me because I am keen on getting to single digits from 11% and I want to know how hard it will be! And i'm a male!!

LegacyUser

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

10% imo.

Can't be because I was 10% all last summer and while it looked good, my abs were never ever that cut.

Tar.Aldarion

Same build as him?

daveirl

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Money Shot

cheesedude wrote:

Well it matters to me because I am keen on getting to single digits from 11% and I want to know how hard it will be! And i'm a male!!

Fair enough. Didn't mean it to come across the way it obviously has - apologies. I just don't see the point in ogeling air brushed pictures of men or women.

Vegeta

cheesedude wrote:

Can't be because I was 10% all last summer and while it looked good, my abs were never ever that cut.

How tanned are you? Stupid question I know but it does help show up the definition, hence why BB'ers look like they are coated in brown boot polish

tunney

cheesedude wrote:

Can't be because I was 10% all last summer and while it looked good, my abs were never ever that cut.

Emmm mine is 7% and not a hint of a six pack. Seems like all my 7% is on top of my abs. I'd have to be hitting 4-5 to be visible.

As Dave said - different strokes.

Transform

Its about 7-8% if it was any lower you would be able to see his obliques more

Mickk

Honestly I think there is no way he is under 10% I think around 12%. His chest arms and shoulders are soft and he is all of what 10 stone?

Don't forget its a percentage of bodyweight not the amount of fat on someones abs, for someone that light he probably has 10% (7kg) bodyfat just surrounding his organs...

TerrorFirmer

I would actually say about 11/12%.. In the picture, he is leaning at a flattering angle and flexing the stomach...I doubt he looks like that in every picture you see.

If you have good abs and still have a relatively high Bf %, when you flex in combination with flattering lighting conditions you should still be able to see the six pack.... and take some good photos

t-ha

Aye I'd agree it's higher, he's about 10%ish I'd say, maybe 11%. He looks soft and he's in the right lighting to show up abs (& it wouldn't be beyond any editor to do a bit of post-processing on pics like that too).

Money Shot

tunney wrote:

Emmm mine is 7% and not a hint of a six pack. Seems like all my 7% is on top of my abs. I'd have to be hitting 4-5 to be visible.

I wouldn't be too quick to get down to 4-5% for the sake of a visible six pack - from another thread, quote from wikipdia in relation to body fat percentage

" The leanest athletes and bodybuilders typically compete at levels of about 5-8% for men, and 10-15% for women.[5] Getting to this level usually requires specific and carefully monitored variations in food, sodium and fluid intake, and also a carefully planned and implemented exercise program. It can be very dangerous to maintain a body fat percentage at the low end of this range for more than a few days or a few hours. "

t-ha

tunney wrote:

Emmm mine is 7% and not a hint of a six pack. Seems like all my 7% is on top of my abs. I'd have to be hitting 4-5 to be visible.

If you're genuinely at 7% BF (which is very low) and still don't have visible abs then your basic options are;
1] your abdominal muscles need development.
2] the ridges in your rectus abdominus are very shallow so you'll most likely never see them, a phenomenon that is rare, but I have seen it in some bodybuilders.

amazingemmet

I'd say 9.453223445% but i'd need a shoe to be definite. (i love t-nation)

cowzerp

cheesedude wrote:

Can't be because I was 10% all last summer and while it looked good, my abs were never ever that cut.

your 10% does not have to look like his ten percent, you might store more abdominal fat than him-his might be on his ass or whatever-everyone is different-i rarely have a 6 pack at 10 percent-usually 8 or below for me, i got to 3.6 at my peak and that was scary-wish i'd took pics as i'll probably never do it again!!

LegacyUser

Cannavaro is around 75Kg's too...

Reyman

Mickk wrote:

Honestly I think there is no way he is under 10% I think around 12%. His chest arms and shoulders are soft and he is all of what 10 stone?

..

He's aged 34, weight. 11stone 5 lbs and height 5'9"

brianthebard

amazingemmet wrote:

I'd say 9.453223445% but i'd need a shoe to be definite. (i love t-nation)

Lolz I was thinking of posting a link to that thread...

davyjose

It's not in the interest of any professional athlete to ahve a bodyfat% lower than 10% the reason being that in order to get below 10% most people have to make restrictions and changes to their diet. Sombody who needs to run, jog and sprint for 90 minutes would need a diet (i.e. high carbs for energy and recovery of glycogen stores) that would simply not allow a bodyfat of below this.
Incidentally (I presume due to his muscle mass) Wayne Rooney is known to have the lowest bodyfat% at Man united.

Hanley

davyjose wrote:

It's not in the interest of any professional athlete to ahve a bodyfat% lower than 10% the reason being that in order to get below 10% most people have to make restrictions and changes to their diet. Sombody who needs to run, jog and sprint for 90 minutes would need a diet (i.e. high carbs for energy and recovery of glycogen stores) that would simply not allow a bodyfat of below this.

Gross generalization much?

daveirl

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davyjose

Hanley wrote:

Gross generalization much?

Perhaps a little, but the point I'm trying to make is the same - that low bodyfat doesn't directly relate ot "fitness", ie the fitter you are the lower your bodyfat is - it doesnt work like that. Maybe he is <10% but this would put him in the minority, certainly in terms of professional footballers.

slemons

thats a fairly crap physique, you can nearly tell he's a soccer player. you can see his abs but that about it. he looks very weak about the midsection to me and has no back. Very fragile looking indeed.
But it suits his sport so...

about 9%

Pherekydes

davyjose wrote:

It's not in the interest of any professional athlete to ahve a bodyfat% lower than 10% the reason being that in order to get below 10% most people have to make restrictions and changes to their diet. Sombody who needs to run, jog and sprint for 90 minutes would need a diet (i.e. high carbs for energy and recovery of glycogen stores) that would simply not allow a bodyfat of below this.
Incidentally (I presume due to his muscle mass) Wayne Rooney is known to have the lowest bodyfat% at Man united.

Body fat percentages for elite athletes:

Sport  	Male 	Female
Basketball 	6-12% 	20-27%
Canoe/Kayak 	6-12% 	10-16%
Cycling 	5-15% 	15-20%
Swimming 	9-12% 	14-24%
Runners 	8-10% 	12-20%
Jumpers 	7-12% 	10-18%
Throwers 	14-20% 	20-28%
Triathlon 	5-12% 	10-15%
Volleyball 	11-14% 	16-25%

Ah yes, the Rooney documentary. They tested his BF% but wouldn't give it in the end, presumably because elite athletes in other sports would die laughing.

hunnymonster

tunney wrote:

Emmm mine is 7% and not a hint of a six pack. Seems like all my 7% is on top of my abs. I'd have to be hitting 4-5 to be visible.

Tunney (assuming you're TI's Tunney) is 7% not a bit low for tri or is that just jealousy on my part?
[edit - I should have read slow coach's post first]

thats a fairly crap physique, you can nearly tell he's a soccer player. you can see his abs but that about it. he looks very weak about the midsection to me and has no back. Very fragile looking indeed.
But it suits his sport so...

it may not be to your liking but as you say it suits his sport. I'm not sure you could call it crap. Then again, I'd chose performance over aestetics anytime.

daveirl

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rubadub

tunney wrote:

Emmm mine is 7% and not a hint of a six pack. Seems like all my 7% is on top of my abs. I'd have to be hitting 4-5 to be visible.

As Dave said - different strokes.

How did you measure this?
I have a calipers and using different formulas I can be 8% or 18% on the same day.

Are there any websites with pics showing examples of BF% level on people tested to an accurate level?

Don't forget its a percentage of bodyweight not the amount of fat on someones abs

Yes that is important and one I always forget since it is usually people with high bodyweight that you see BF% quoted on.

What weight & BF would you reckon Daniel Craig- 007 was in the film I think he is 6ft

Dragan

All i'll say is that with the physique of the majority of football players these days and the way the game is played you can tell it's no longer about running through big tackles.

Free kick ref?

yop

*Fat boy coming through*

Je5us, 5%, 10%!! This really worries me, how in the name of fup am I ever goin to get near that!!
On our Argos scales I am hitting 35% bf, 42% water and 15st 8lbs!! So I am officially the fattest person on boards!!!
The odd thing about it is that people don't regard me as "Fat", even mates and that, they say I am very broad shouldered, how fkin broad can they be to be 35% bf says I at this stage!!!

Is there anyone even near that here!! Or am I really a woman!!

BTW - My gut (not waist!!!) is 95cm so that gives u an idea of where my problem is!!

daveirl

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Sangre

Slow coach wrote:

Ah yes, the Rooney documentary. They tested his BF% but wouldn't give it in the end, presumably because elite athletes in other sports would die laughing.

Well, considering he's probably a lot richer (or will be) than most of these other elite atheletes I'm sure hes not bothered.

tunney

hunnymonster wrote:

Tunney (assuming you're TI's Tunney) is 7% not a bit low for tri or is that just jealousy on my part?

Emmm thats me. 7% is about right for me for triathlon/running. I can maintain it with a normal diet.

davyjose wrote:

It's not in the interest of any professional athlete to ahve a bodyfat% lower than 10% the reason being that in order to get below 10% most people have to make restrictions and changes to their diet. Sombody who needs to run, jog and sprint for 90 minutes would need a diet (i.e. high carbs for energy and recovery of glycogen stores) that would simply not allow a bodyfat of below this.

I've never heard such a load of cr*p. Show me one elite male endurance athlete with a bf of > 8% during competition season. Okay Jan Ulrich was overweight and had a high bf% but that is often used to explain why he never hit the performance heights expected of him. You cannot perform to the best of your abilities while carrying extra weight. In fact for major races some elites will have their bf% dip to 3% albeit only for a week or so before it settles back up around 5%.

Also a 90 minute run is only about a 1100 kcal burn - feck all really, a larger dinner, recovery drink and a whack of fruit

t-ha

tunney wrote:

In fact for major races some elites will have their bf% dip to 3% albeit only for a week or so before it settles back up around 5%.

While I appreciate that a runner doesn't want to be carrying extra 'dead' weight, I find the above hard to believe. People who have died from starvation generally still have close to 3%BF in autopsies, and in bodybuilding (where bodyfat is manipulated to an extreme degree) bodybuilders rarely go as low as 3%BF because it is so dangerous and even if they do it's only for a matter of hours.

yop

daveirl wrote:

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6ft! - I am doing that fitday site keeping record of everything ate, everything excercise, and according to that site my avg over the week for calories is about 1600 per day but burning 3100!! So some thing is wrong!!

I think I am actually gaining weight in the last 5 weeks instead of flipping losing it with my BF staying the same!!

slemons

t-ha wrote:

While I appreciate that a runner doesn't want to be carrying extra 'dead' weight, I find the above hard to believe. People who have died from starvation generally still have close to 3%BF in autopsies, and in bodybuilding (where bodyfat is manipulated to an extreme degree) bodybuilders rarely go as low as 3%BF because it is so dangerous and even if they do it's only for a matter of hours.

thats different strokes for different folks though. BBers diet isnt the healthiest. Cutting and bulking as they do cant be good for the hormone levels in your body. Once their comp is over their isnt any real need to maintian the low BF %, maybe thats part of it...
Other athletes maintain their low BF all year round and can be very healthy at 4 or 5% for years. short distance Sprinters would be the case in point. they need little enough carbs each day and do lots of running so it easy to see why their BF could get so low, without really trying too hard to achieve it.

Everyone knows of one guy who eats all round him but is still thin as a rifle pull through. Some people can maintain very low BF percentages and still be healthy. Maybe not as low as 3% but definitely under 5%

wayne rooney hasnt got low BF%, and isnt very muscular, strong or fast. He's a very good soccer player though.

Hanley

I very much doubt ANY elite sprinter is 3-5%. Do you know what that would look like on the average person...?

rubadub

yop wrote:

according to that site my avg over the week for calories is about 1600 per day but burning 3100!! So some thing is wrong!!

Do you weigh ALL your food, or are you just guessing portion sizes? I imagine 99% of people underestimate how much they really eat.

yop

I wud give a good estimate alright, but it is hard to judge!

hunnymonster

I weight stuff ever so often to chekc my visual weighing scales are still on track but I don't religiously weigh stuff every meal. I tend not to weigh veg either as they have such a low calorie to weight ratio.

daveirl

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rubadub

yop wrote:

I wud give a good estimate alright, but it is hard to judge!

All portion sizes on packets are usually tiny, have a look at this page

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-200-calories-look-like.htm

This morning I had 2 pieces of toast, cut from a whole loaf, I weighed it out of interest since I always slice that thick, 160g, so about 400 calories in just 2 slices of toast/bread.

I don't religiously weigh stuff every meal.

I don't either, but do with new foods, then you get to just know the look of what a portion should be.

I doubt you're 35% BF with those stats then.

Yeah those scales are brutal

yop

I fecking hope so, je5u5 I must have no skeleton if over 30% of me is FAT!!!
:0

Leon11

Yop,

your prob the same as me in that when your standing you have a "slim" look ie no belly but when you sit down you it comes out. Best thing to do is cut down on the carbs to 25-30 at max if you want to cut down. there's a thread here though I cant find it, it suggests that a high bodyfat % in one area may be linked to an intolerance of certain hormones etc. can anyone link back to this?

Degsy

According to that crappy machine in the gym that measures your body-fat to height thingy,i'm running at 30% bodyfat at a height of 5' 10'' and weight of 15stone,now i'm toting a reasonable amount of blubber but one third by weight???

tunney

Deagsy wrote:

According to that crappy machine in the gym that measures your body-fat to height thingy,i'm running at 30% bodyfat at a height of 5' 10'' and weight of 15stone,now i'm toting a reasonable amount of blubber but one third by weight???

Although only generates guesses http://www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/fatcent.htm would suggest that given your stats is most likely right.