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€200 + €20 Deep Stack tournament @ the Sporting Emporium

  • 04-05-2007 8:53pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 276 ✭✭


    Hi,

    This Saturday 4th May €200 + €20 Deep Stack tournament @ the Sporting Emporium


    LEVEL SMALL B BIG B ANTE MINUTES

    1- 25- 50- - 30
    2- 50- 100- - 30
    3- 75- 150- - 30
    4- 100- 200- - 30
    5- 150- 300- - 30
    5- 150- 300- 25- 45
    6- 200- 400- 25- 45
    7- 300- 600- 50- 45
    8- 400- 800- 50- 45
    9- 600- 1200- 100- 45
    10- 800- 1600- 200- 45
    11- 1000- 2000- 200- 45
    12- 1500- 3000- 300- 45
    13- 2000- 4000- 500- 45
    14- 3000- 6000- 500- 45
    15- 4000- 8000- 1000- 45
    16- 6000- 12000- 1000- 45
    17- 8000- 16000- 1000- 45
    18- 10000- 20000- 2000- 45

    Doors open from 6pm Cards in the air 6:30pm sharp


    Please note:
    This event is being run by the Sporting Emporium and all events at this location are commercial unless otherwise stated.
    “”We ask all players as a courtesy to each other to arrive at least 30min before the event to ensure a prompt start time.””
    All players must be at least 21 and be a member of the club.
    All tournaments are No-Limit Texas Hold’em unless otherwise stated.
    Structures and starting stacks are set in relation to the size of the buy-in and may be amended or changed at the tournament director’s discretion. (We always make an effort to give maximum value for all our players.)
    All tables are dealt to the highest standard.
    Card room rules available on request (amended TDA rules in practice in the club)
    As normal practice the Tournament Director / Floor person’s decision is final.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    Who's up for a last longest for this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,286 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Flushdraw wrote:
    Who's up for a last longest for this?

    im in Tony


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    Nice one Mick...good to have some of you boys from the south coming up to donate!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭58o


    Stuck in Dub for the w/end so i'll prob be at this and am up for the last longest. Hopefully the weather won't effect numbers too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,286 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Flushdraw wrote:
    Nice one Mick...good to have some of you boys from the south coming up to donate!

    have to try and get some of that team event money back off ya somehow Tony :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭bottom feeder


    yeah tony i ave some of that, fiver a head....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    yeah tony i ave some of that, fiver a head....

    lol u can multiply that by 6 and youre getting warm..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭bottom feeder


    Flushdraw wrote:
    lol u can multiply that by 6 and youre getting warm..

    ok ok im in


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭58o


    i'm in but prob will be a little late . stick me down for last longest anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    58o wrote:
    i'm in but prob will be a little late . stick me down for last longest anyway.


    ha ha - just home from the jackpot i guess?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    25 yoyos a head?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭PiperT


    Flushdraw wrote:
    25 yoyos a head?

    Yeah Tony, count me in on that. I'll be pushing it to make it for 6:30 but I will be there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    PiperT wrote:
    Yeah Tony, count me in on that. I'll be pushing it to make it for 6:30 but I will be there.

    Sound Tim. See you there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    GL to all the deros in this. I may appear for some drunken monkey stuff later on...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,286 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    any updates on this??

    LuckyLloyd, bottom feeder, BCB and Gholimoli all going strong when i was leaving


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    lloyd kq, bcb kj... board xxxxj... or something... OSCAR DE LA HOYA WAS ROBBED!

    /end transmission!


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    I finished 6th, BCB, Jay, Strewelpeter, Shane (red hair, not sure if he posts) and another guy all had decent stacks when I bust. Plenty of play left for tomorrow despite there only being 50 runners. We were hand for hand for over an ohur at the final table bubble.

    That hand above was a very sick one, with questionable play from both I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭AS_PokerKing


    how many get paid....any idea of the payout structure ????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    5starpool wrote:
    Shane (red hair, not sure if he posts)

    Gone in 5th for 720.

    Shane posts as 58o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    5starpool wrote:
    That hand above was a very sick one, with questionable play from both I think.

    Calling re - raises pre - flop with KJ OOP FTW!! Then checking every single street for the double win!!

    My mistake for never putting KJ or AJ in his range. Rating players as competent is a dangerous business. I thought the insta call could only have been JJ that rivered a set. Oh well, we live and learn.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    I thought that might be him, wasn't sure though.

    To answer another Q, there were 6 prizes, roughly 4k, 2300, 1100, 870, 720, 620.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    Strewelpeter gone in 4th. Jay, 58o and Keith discussing a deal when i left. I think prize money was something like 3300, 2200, 1200


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Flushdraw wrote:
    Strewelpeter gone in 4th. Jay, 58o and Keith discussing a deal when i left. I think prize money was something like 3300, 2200, 1200

    Well done to Tony (Strewelpeter) for battling away to 4th. He was a bit short when I left with 14 left. Nice to see Shane and Jay get in there aswell. Well played to all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭strewelpeter


    Thanks, I was playing a below average stack for most of the night. I got ahead a couple of times but never got to build a monster. Until the FT I got very little in the way of playable hands JJ twice and AQ twice and never when in position to take the huge pots. Thats the beauty of a structure like this game, even at the shortest when we were playing the bubble (for nearer 2 hours than 1 I think) there was never less than 10bbs in front of me.
    On the FT I got very lucky to almost triple up with AA v KK holding up but I didn't really make the most of the few chances I had to use the bigger stack. In the end when we got 4 handed and as the blinds hit 2K/4K 500 I started to try to play, ahem... creatively against the big stacks that wasn't so clever so I quickly ended up in 4th and left the the three lads working on a deal. The Guy who had the CL wasn't going to be able to make it back tonight and the stacks were quite level some sort of a deal was done and Jay and Shane spit the last longest.
    Delighted to run good with all those good players and there were plenty of good laughs through the very long night.
    Shane posts as 58o
    He might want to change that to 82o :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭58o




    He might want to change that to 82o :D

    LOL. I got well and truly cookie jarred there. Wp man.


    3 way even chop in the end. Stacks me 102000, Jay 130000, Keith 160000. Blinds 2000/4000. Me and Jay happy to come back to play it out but Keith could not due to it being his daughters birthday today. Bit dissapointed we couldnt come back as there was plenty play left but couldnt really see an alternative tbh.Didnt really feel like being a hardass at that stage.

    Very enjoyable tourney once again, a fair few interesting hands and good craic too (me and jay had some pretty big confrontations). Very happy with how i played apart from 1 or 2 FT hands but i was always chipped up enough to take the hits.
    WP all cashers and thanks to John, Alex and the dealers for another excellent tournie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    Calling re - raises pre - flop with KJ OOP FTW!! Then checking every single street for the double win!!

    My mistake for never putting KJ or AJ in his range. Rating players as competent is a dangerous business. I thought the insta call could only have been JJ that rivered a set. Oh well, we live and learn.

    Lloyd,

    I wasnt going to comment on the hand, but hey seeing as how youv started i might as well.

    I raise from EP and you immediately reraise me. It comes back around to me and im thinking that firstly im getting 2/1 on my money, secondly that you would be out to get one over on me and as a result I can open your range up a bit.

    I gave you a big sweat and I know its not your anti well or anything but I will let you in on two of your live tells now.

    1. You stared me down - this is a sign of weakness in your hand. When you have a big hand against me here you are focussed on the centre of the table trying to get me committed with a worse holding.

    2. I asked you to count your chips and you initially stayed silent - instead pushing them forward towards the dealer. Again if you have a big holding here you are comfortably leaning back in your chair telling me "ah its about another 15k - its a lot of money" etc etc, instead you clam up. I reckon you then realised that you had stayed silent and decided you better talk and you muttered out about how much chips you have.

    Now taking the above into consideration I am comfortable that you dont really want to go to war. I dont have you on AK/ AQ or PP's greater than 8's or 9's. i.e something you will instantly call a push with. So I decide to peel off a flop. and reassess it from there. Mistly because of the above and also cos its only your 2nd/3rd hand at the table and I wanted you to know that you were not going to be snapping off my raises for the length of time at the table.

    Flop 10 high and if you ask me i have a pretty good table face here. I dwell and check. You bottle and also check. Why do I check? Well ive already decided that ive enough comitted to the pot and that I can give it up. Why? Well im not in the habit of magnifying my preflop mistakes.

    Turn a brick and i dwell for ages and I check. You also check

    River J, I dwell and check and you push and I insta call. Now why wouldnt I insta call? What am I playing it for if im not willing to get it in. The only thing Im really afraid of is AJ - now thats in your range but given what ive said above your range is wider than normal, its an easy call and there was no need for pains and dramatics over wether or not I can call.

    Now rather than bemoaning my play please examine your own. Specifically look at your post flop play. I refer you to my point on your well thread - are you playing bad rather than running bad. Well In this case youv played it bad and post flop its your fault that you went broke in this hand. In fact if your looking for opinions why not start a thread examining your postflop play in this hand and also in your AK v A4 hand against baker1.


    I know I played the hand sub optimal and I can acknowledge that. But your the one that failed to punish me for my bad play - your plan for the hand was to take it down preflop and when that happened you didnt know what to do. You only had a plan A.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    I gave you a big sweat and I know its not your anti well or anything but I will let you in on two of your live tells now.

    1. You stared me down - this is a sign of weakness in your hand. When you have a big hand against me here you are focussed on the centre of the table trying to get me committed with a worse holding.

    2. I asked you to count your chips and you initially stayed silent - instead pushing them forward towards the dealer. Again if you have a big holding here you are comfortably leaning back in your chair telling me "ah its about another 15k - its a lot of money" etc etc, instead you clam up. I reckon you then realised that you had stayed silent and decided you better talk and you muttered out about how much chips you have.

    I dunno about the first one, but I'm fairly sure he never counts out his chips, no matter what he's holding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    I dunno about the first one, but I'm fairly sure he never counts out his chips, no matter what he's holding.

    That is not my experience and im very confident that ive logged quite a few more hands with Lloyd than you. Its not just about the act of counting of his chips its about his demeanor when I ask the question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Dear Diary,

    I donked out of this tournament. I made a semi-standard move, but with bad timing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    BCB your call preflop is horrendous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    ianmc38 wrote:
    BCB your call preflop is horrendous.

    I know that, Ive never said it was otherwise. Hence my willingness to give it up on the flop. I realise that ive made an error and at that stage im not about to magnify my preflop mistake by spewing on the flop or beyond. There are a series of mistakes in the hand. I can recognise mine.

    Also, well done to Shane and Jay and others who cashed. Thanks to John Alex and staff who again put on a good show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    I know that, Ive never said it was otherwise. Hence my willingness to give it up on the flop. I realise that ive made an error and at that stage im not about to magnify my preflop mistake by spewing on the flop or beyond. There are a series of mistakes in the hand. I can recognise mine.

    Also, well done to Shane and Jay and others who cashed. Thanks to John Alex and staff who again put on a good show.

    Nice one on the cash btw. Another good result for ya!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    1. You stared me down - this is a sign of weakness in your hand. When you have a big hand against me here you are focussed on the centre of the table trying to get me committed with a worse holding.

    i've actually rarely been on the end of the Stare-o-Matic 3000 in a live tourny, but being 100% honest nothing makes me happier for reasons bcb has stated. decide whether you are looking aimlessly at the table, or staring at the opponent. i'm currently trying to master the dis-interested look that jbravado has down... although i think it works for him cos he is genuinely disinterested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Noel when you took forever to call and eventually did whie knowing that the pot was now bigger than my stack, I narrowed your range down to a strong hand: 1010 - AA or AQ+ with a heavier weighting towards a big pair.

    I raised you initially because it was the second hand in three that you had raised and the BB is a weak player

    The flop was 10 high and you check. Wtf? If you have an overpair or have flopped a set you might get tricky and check. You check the turn again. Wtf? The only bet I can make is all - in and I am really thinking that you are trapping a big hand. So I check behind. Then the J comes. And you check again. My reading was now that you couldn't risk checking a decent hand to me again and, because I assumed that you are in someway decent pre - flop, you can never have AJ or KJ. I assumed that you would value bet any hand as I had shown a lot of weakness. So I shoved thinking that it is impossible for you to call with AK / AQ or maybe the low pocket pair that missed the board - the only range that now really made any sense to me.

    You call with KJ. Sure, if you call pre - flop with it I guess you aren't throwing away TPGK.

    Those thought processes are solid (if you are a thinking player) - I would have played the hand differently against the Chief - and that is probably how I should have been thinking.

    Your pre - flop call is horrendous. Just awful. Live tells? If you think I'm weak you should set us in. Peeling a flop with KJ oop? Give me a break.

    Anyway, I'll play you differently the next time in that I will assign you a range of hands based on you abillity to make bad mistakes pre - flop. Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭Silver-Tiger


    58o wrote:
    LOL. I got well and truly cookie jarred there. Wp man.


    3 way even chop in the end. Stacks me 102000, Jay 130000, Keith 160000. Blinds 2000/4000. Me and Jay happy to come back to play it out but Keith could not due to it being his daughters birthday today. Bit dissapointed we couldnt come back as there was plenty play left but couldnt really see an alternative tbh.Didnt really feel like being a hardass at that stage.

    Very enjoyable tourney once again, a fair few interesting hands and good craic too (me and jay had some pretty big confrontations). Very happy with how i played apart from 1 or 2 FT hands but i was always chipped up enough to take the hits.
    WP all cashers and thanks to John, Alex and the dealers for another excellent tournie.

    Wp Shane


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    Noel when you took forever to call and eventually did whie knowing that the pot was now bigger than my stack, I narrowed your range down to a strong hand: 1010 - AA or AQ+ with a heavier weighting towards a big pair.

    I raised you initially because it was the second hand in three that you had raised and the BB is a weak player

    The flop was 10 high and you check. Wtf? If you have an overpair or have flopped a set you might get tricky and check. You check the turn again. Wtf? The only bet I can make is all - in and I am really thinking that you are trapping a big hand. So I check behind. Then the J comes. And you check again. My reading was now that you couldn't risk checking a decent hand to me again and, because I assumed that you are in someway decent pre - flop, you can never have AJ or KJ. I assumed that you would value bet any hand as I had shown a lot of weakness. So I shoved thinking that it is impossible for you to call with AK / AQ or maybe the low pocket pair that missed the board - the only range that now really made any sense to me.

    You call with KJ. Sure, if you call pre - flop with it I guess you aren't throwing away TPGK.

    Those thought processes are solid (if you are a thinking player) - I would have played the hand differently against the Chief - and that is probably how I should have been thinking.

    Your pre - flop call is horrendous. Just awful. Live tells? If you think I'm weak you should set us in. Peeling a flop with KJ oop? Give me a break.

    Anyway, I'll play you differently the next time in that I will assign you a range of hands based on you abillity to make bad mistakes pre - flop. Good luck.

    Lloyd as said ive made a litany of mistakes in the hand - the biggest one was not pushing preflop. Once ive made that mistake im not gona magnify it on later streets.

    As for not betting river? Come on now are you for real? How would you have played the river from my pos? Im pretty confident im ahead and I can now genuinely trap you - the only move you have is all in. I gave you the rope on the river and you did the rest.

    I seriously think you need to get over yourself in this hand - you made plenty of mistakes also. No need for all this telling me im a poor player/ assign suitable hands bullsh1t. You absolutely butchered the hand post flop and paid the price.

    nuff said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    River J, I dwell and check and you push and I insta call. Now why wouldnt I insta call? What am I playing it for if im not willing to get it in. The only thing Im really afraid of is AJ - now thats in your range but given what ive said above your range is wider than normal, its an easy call and there was no need for pains and dramatics over wether or not I can call.

    I wasn't annoyed that you call on the end. I was SHOCKED that you could have that hand after the pre - flop action. SHOCKED!!

    Also, your pre - flop analysis is pretty funny tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭jbravado


    Well done to all those who cashed.Shane aonother great result in this.Easy.

    I actually enjoyed this and made it past the break for the first time.My exit hand was an absolute cooler so no complaints.LOL.

    In the hand being discussed I think both bcb and ldog have made valid sensible points.How it didnt all go in preflop is beyond me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    I seriously think you need to get over yourself in this hand - you made plenty of mistakes also. No need for all this telling me im a poor player/ assign suitable hands bullsh1t. You absolutely butchered the hand post flop and paid the price.

    nuff said.

    Nuff said? Sure Noel. I find your imperious tone in my well and on this hand hilarious. "I don't magnify my pre - flop mistakes". Maybe cashing in the Irish Open has gone to your head? Just a thought.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭jbravado


    Lads fcuk sake dont let this descend into a slagging match full of slyly veiled insults.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    simple as... lloyd, you know you are a good enough player to re-raise with air, so therefore you accept that KJ can be very far ahead of you at this point.

    there are merits behind the way both you played it and there are questions to be asked about the way both you played it. the hand is fine, the hand is over...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭delanec8


    WP shane, nice result


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    ditpoker wrote:
    simple as... lloyd, you know you are a good enough player to re-raise with air, so therefore you accept that KJ can be very far ahead of you at this point.

    there are merits behind the way both you played it and there are questions to be asked about the way both you played it. the hand is fine, the hand is over...
    Sure - so push!! I will not post in this thread again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    jbravado wrote:
    Lads fcuk sake dont let this descend into a slagging match full of slyly veiled insults.

    . x 2

    jbravado sucks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    Sure - so push!! I will not post in this thread again.

    if you have 83 off why should he push with KJ. maximise value, call. let you lead the flop, majority of the time you have missed, call your bet when you decide to act.

    Lloyd, i spoke to u about this hand yesterday, and im hardly saying that the play by your or noel is amazing. but i'd suggest rather than deciding "not to post inthis thread again" you should take whats being said with an open mind. you dont go broke if you dont push on the river. if you have decided he has a monster on the flop and turn cos he has checked, why does the story change on the river, check behind and muck your hand. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot. you dont have to win every pot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    "I don't magnify my pre - flop mistakes"

    I would think this is basic enuf.

    Lloyd - I assume you believe that you have played the hand well as you have not said anything to the contrary. At least Im quite open about my mistakes - I hope to learn from them.

    "The lad that never made a mistake, made nothing"

    I am also to assume you wont bee seeking analysis on the hands as I suggested above.

    I also find it laughable that that you suggest that me cashing in the IO has gone to my head.

    As for my imperious tone in your in the well thread? I asked you in that thread what exactly was so objectionable about my questions and you have thus far failed to tell me?

    You appear to be a great critic of others, yet unable to accept criticism of any form.

    Finally, :D

    EDIT - check out my sig, lol......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    BCB as you have stated your self i think the pre-flop call is very bad.
    u gave a few reasons for calling where actually thoes are all reasons for pushing and not one of them is valid for taking a flop here.
    seen as you said you have given up on the hand from the flop i think you played the rest of the hand fine.

    Lloyd i think no matter what you should have pushed the flop,T high flop is perfect for you .if you push here your hand will look very strong and you may even get him to fold a better hand than yours.
    if you say you were scared of a big hand then i dont like the push on the river as things have not changed .
    he could be trapping with a flat call but that is a chance you are going to have to take and even if it does not go well for you your play is the right one.

    after double checking the flop and turn i really hate the push on the river as i would make that call with a AK,AQ never mind top pair.

    thats all just IMO and oh yeah how did that focker who cracked my AA get on?
    i hope he busted soon after ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    cop on noel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    Gholimoli wrote:
    BCB as you have stated your self i think the pre-flop call is very bad.
    u gave a few reasons for calling where actually thoes are all reasons for pushing and not one of them is valid for taking a flop here.

    I agree totally with you here. Pushing preflop was my move and that is probably my biggest mistake in the hand - i failed to go with my read. Honestly pushing or folding were my options, calling should never have been an option. I am actually quite annoyed with myself for not pushing pre. I failed to pull the trigger and i need to correct this as its not the first time lately Ive failed to go with my read where as before id be pushing for sport.


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