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Krav Maga or MMA in classes in Dublin Southside?
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26-04-2007 6:24am#1Hiya,
Came across this site whilst doing some research & feel like its the optimal way of finding out what i need to know. Trying to find somewhere in Dublin southside that does either krav maga (preferrably) or else MMA classes. Its been a while since I've been in Dublin & coming back from a long time living abroad leaves me absolutely clueless
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thank you 0
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Hey! Welcome on board!
There's a world of difference between KM and MMA in my opinion. I'd recommend MMA style training, as it has more athleticism to it and is pressure tested more often.
Millionaire, who posts here, will tell you about the standard of KM in Ireland from his perspective I'm sure, and he's a KM enthusiast.
As far as classes go you have Next Generation in Loughlinstown under the insanely strong Dave Jones; Fianna Gym under in Sandyford under the insanely conditioned Pearse Stokes, and Spartan MMA in Firhouse under the just pure insane me
There's also Three Castles MMA in Tallaght/Clondalkin under Dylan Costigan (couldn't think of a unique insane reference there)
All of these guys post here so if you give your location we'll be able to provide you with times etc.
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try..kmac20in wrote:Hiya,
Came across this site whilst doing some research & feel like its the optimal way of finding out what i need to know. Trying to find somewhere in Dublin southside that does either krav maga (preferrably) or else MMA classes. Its been a while since I've been in Dublin & coming back from a long time living abroad leaves me absolutely clueless Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thank you
http://www.kravmaga.ie/
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http://www.kravmagaireland.com/
both dublin based.0 -
Just wondering which classes offer the most hands-on, as in the most hardcore training, would prefer to throw myself into the deep end - so to speak.
Well you are more than welcome to try a free class at next generation plus if you choose Thursday night "Fight Class" and make it through every round and every exercise repetition you can have your first month free, although we have been open 5 years this summer and have had "Fight Class" for 3 of those and I have never had to honour that free month
Seriously though any of the places suggested will be both hard core and realistic , thats what we are all about.0 -
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kravist wrote:Lmao..typical...hear what you want to hear and then as a moderator, therafter block whom ever might contradict your opinion! 0
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Colm has never abused his position as Moderator, cheap trolling attempt Kravist, personal attacks are bannable offences on these boards you know. How ironic it would be if you attacking him about banning people resulted in your banning 0
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ShaneT,
Watch it or you'll get banned, he said Southside, not Northside!
A lot of compliant drills, no sparring. The techniques were not too dissimilar to Kenpo ones I used to train. I've never personally been able to utilise a wrist lock to move someone around or know anyone who I've personally witnessed to be able to do it in a non compliant atmosphere.Well BJJers, what do you think ?
Right at the end, with the guy running out the building and the others pushing him back with kick pads is real fun, I do that with my kids and call it "gauntlet"0 -
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LOL!Colm_OReilly wrote:ShaneT,
Watch it or you'll get banned, he said Southside, not Northside! How's it going Colm?
We're in town; so we're neither north nor south. Still think he'd bad mad not to take Dave up on his offer though (assuming he'll be living near Loughlinstown).
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Roper wrote:...never concede a yard or before you know it we'll all be drinking decaf lattés and calling our children Fuinneog. You may own south of the Liffey... but I own... Um... I own... well... East Wall...
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What a faux pas Shane! I'm a Northsider!ShaneT wrote: You may own south of the Liffey... but I own... Um... I own... well... East Wall... 0 -
Holy Crap! So you are!Roper wrote:What a faux pas Shane! I'm a Northsider!
Wait up. So, Dave own's the south. You own the north. What do I get?
See.. this is what I get for being Johnny foreigner! :mad: 0 -
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right from the start?
Yes, I've people starting and in their first class they'll be sparring. I'll pair them up with someone for 30 seconds or so with an objective like "hold him down" or "get him off" you and let them experience it firsthand. Once you've experienced the problem you're more open to the solution.first minute of the first class taken?
No, that's the introduction, then the warm up. About ten-fifteen mins in they'll be drilling: given an objective and a level of resistance they're to offer and then let train it athletically. Some drills are competitive, where both people have an objective and are trying to win. Others one partner is a training aid, adjusting their resistance until their partner can just about execute the technique, then upping the resistance.
Then sparring: intensity at your own level. Beginners invariably are intense and gas out quickly, but sure it's a great experience.
Hopefully that paints a better picture,
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it does indeed:)Colm_OReilly wrote:Yes, I've people starting and in their first class they'll be sparring. I'll pair them up with someone for 30 seconds or so with an objective like "hold him down" or "get him off" you and let them experience it firsthand. Once you've experienced the problem you're more open to the solution.
No, that's the introduction, then the warm up. About ten-fifteen mins in they'll be drilling: given an objective and a level of resistance they're to offer and then let train it athletically. Some drills are competitive, where both people have an objective and are trying to win. Others one partner is a training aid, adjusting their resistance until their partner can just about execute the technique, then upping the resistance.
Then sparring: intensity at your own level. Beginners invariably are intense and gas out quickly, but sure it's a great experience.
Hopefully that paints a better picture,
Colm
perhaps we can get a brief response from some krav maga exponents, on the question of resistance training?0 -
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Millionaire wrote:Also you do not want to be on the ground in a self defence situation, as attacker usually has buddies who will boot your head in, nor will you probaby have nice mat under your knees to stop them getting minced, and nor nice easy to move in training gear.
"Also you do not want to be on the ground in a self defence situation," You mightn't have any choice in the situation, does'nt take an international Rugby player to grab a hold of someone in a brawl and for both parties to end up on the floor in a second or two.
" as attacker usually has buddies who will boot your head in " If he has a few buddies with him, either (a) you try run for it like an olmypic sprinter or (b) your fcuked anyway. One fella fending off several attackers is lovely in the movies, unless your Chuck Liddell, Tito Ortiz, etc in real life the chances of it are almost zero for the average amateur martial artist.
" nor will you probaby have nice mat under your knees to stop them getting minced " No BJJer is going to tell you that if it goes to the concrete he is'nt going to get a bruise or two. That's one of the problems with many trad MA promisies by the masters and 'experts', i.e. you'll walk away like James Bond with your maybe hair slightly ruffled but that's all. BJJ/MMAers live in the real world, a stupid brawl is not pleasent and that you'll come out of it without a scratch. But in the white heat of a brawl, with testosterone running wildly thru you, most people could live with a few bumps while wrestling on the ground . Besides, you may have no choice in the matter.
" nor nice easy to move in training gear. " I'm not trying to undermine every statement you make Millionaire, because when it comes to self defence your heart is in the right place, but that's why BJJers train in a Gi. I only got a Gi before last Xmas, done it with reluctance as I thought to be honest, it was just for keeping up tradition/sport etc. Just goes to show how little I knew. Firstly, because the Gi is so thick and heavy and difficult to move in compared to the freeness of a t shirt, it actually similuates grappling in an everyday situation say, a jacket of anorak on. Serious. There are many ingenious choke submissions that can be learned and applied from it, not to mention taking better control of an opponents arms, legs etc Even the belt can be utilised, such as by gripping when someone is trying to pull at your arm to get a keylock or armbar or whatever.
I have no doubt Millionaire with your Muay Thai background that when it comes to striking you can more than do the business. I only done a few classes in Muay Thai and how you blokes can put up with those low shin kicks !!! I'll stick to doing TKD patterns (kata) . But BJJ does have a steep learning curve, ( God knows I'm long enough trying to learn it ), but a learning curve that's worth learning, even just for the sheer enjoyment/sport of the art itself. 0 -
O'Leprosy wrote:does'nt take an international Rugby player to grab a hold of someone in a brawl and for both parties to end up on the floor in a second or two.
Yes, and if one does not address the attacker with strikes to get him out of the game, this has happened me too in real situations...for me dirty tricks worked wonders.One fella fending off several attackers is lovely in the movies,
I got attacked by 6 in a foreign country, while alone, got 2 sucker punches in the eye, and a bottle attack, and I still managed to fight them off, even though I was coming from a bad start. In the end they did get my wallet, but I damaged 3 bad, and the other 3 ran with the money. I just came out with a black eye and cuts on head from bottle. (and it is not the only 3 - 4 on one I had)....if you have the fighting spirit and the aggression sometimes you can save you butt...or minimise the damage...its down to survival at that stage.
I've been there, I 've done it, I know." nor nice easy to move in training gear. "
no need to use a BJJ Gi to get reality...train in jeans, t shirt, jacket if winter in ireland.but a learning curve that's worth learning, even just for the sheer enjoyment/sport of the art itself.
Yes of course, that why I am a grappling (mix of sub and bjj) beginning student! (humbling to leave years of striking outside the door of grappling school, thats a good leave you ego behind exercise for any experienced MA person) 0 -
" and if one does not address the attacker with strikes to get him out of the game, ". Doesn't mean that strikes are foolproof at preventing someone taking you to the ground. Look what happened to some of the best striker's in the world in the early UFC's. Ok, they were against first class BJJers, wrestlers, Judo etc, but the boast of striking for decades was that strikers punches , kicks, knees etc would prevent the grappler from getting a hold of them, if not knock them out on the spot. Didn't happen. If Joe Bloggs is determined enough, I'd say he's got at least a 50/50 chance of taking it to the ground in the pandamonium and white heat of a brawl.
" no need to use a BJJ Gi to get reality...train in jeans, t shirt, jacket if winter in ireland. " True, it's possible to use a jacket, jeans, t shirt, but the Gi is stitched super strong. Indeed, a jacket would lend more reality to training, but an ordinary jacket collar wouldn't last too long training in a BJJ club, a couple of classes and the collar/neck would start to be in shreds. Ok, you could buy another cheap one in an Oxfam shop , but the hardy Gi would probably cost less in the long term 0 -
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