Dorsh - Real-time dart info on ur mobile phone for practically nothing

dal

Here is an application I made a few days ago to give you real-time dart times on your mobile phone. You just enter in the station you are leaving from, the direction you are travelling in, and press ok. This contacts the dart website and gives back all the trains leaving within the next hour.
This is more acurate than timetables because (obviously) it is the real-time info.

Best of all, the application is free. Its free now and it always will be free (I just wrote it for fun).
The only price that you will pay is the data charge. I am on o2 and it costs a fraction of a cent for each query. On meteor and vodafone it will cost the minimum data charge (1c and 2c respectively I think).
Dart charge 30c per query for this through their text service, so you could save a bit if you use it regularly.

Let me know how it performs for you. I don't actually use the dart, so I don't get to use the app much.

The application is available here: http://www.dallan.co.uk/dorsh/Dorsh.jar and here is the jad file if you need it: http://www.dallan.co.uk/dorsh/Dorsh.jad

The source code is available (for free) for anyone who wants it. Just send me a pm.

Random

All sounds great in theory - will have to download and try that out one of the days

dal

Its great in practice too!
I meant to say, it also saves your last two departure points for easy access the next time you use the application.

Random

I had to go and try it!Simple, effective.

FYI, there's no darts from Landsdowne Road Northbound right now!

Now, go make one for Dublin Bus!

Raam

I just got the latest version, working good for me. It let's me set my home station, so no scrolling through to get to the station I use most frequent.

Features I'd like to see...

Ability to search through stations by just typing the first letter of the station.
Ability to save the response to a scratchpad so that you can keep the info temporarily

Good work Dal

P

quintron

ciaranfo wrote:

I had to go and try it!Simple, effective.

FYI, there's no darts from Landsdowne Road Northbound right now!

Now, go make one for Dublin Bus!

Dublin Bus one should be easy enough ..... just right a script that says "Next bus in 10 minutes... if its not full..if full wait 30 mins, 45 if its raining. "

Jonathan

This is kinda off topic but related at the same time. Tried your program and works like a charm, Thanks very much. That's the part that puzzles me though... it looks v similar to AFT, which will not work for me at all. Problem sending message all the time. If this program is working, should AFT theoretically work?

flodis79

jmccrohan wrote:

This is kinda off topic but related at the same time. Tried your program and works like a charm, Thanks very much. That's the part that puzzles me though... it looks v similar to AFT, which will not work for me at all. Problem sending message all the time. If this program is working, should AFT theoretically work?

Great! works a treat here on my nokia 6070. Now I'm just waiting for a Dublin Bus version!

Jonathan

flodis79 wrote:

Great! works a treat here on my nokia 6070. Now I'm just waiting for a Dublin Bus version!

Which? AFT or Dorsh?

dal

jmccrohan wrote:

If this program is working, should AFT theoretically work?

Its definitely similar to AFT, except for one small difference. This uses a http get, AFT uses a HTTP post, but I wouldn't expect that to make a difference overall.
What kind of phone do you have?

quintron wrote:

Dublin Bus one should be easy enough ..... just right a script that says "Next bus in 10 minutes... if its not full..if full wait 30 mins, 45 if its raining

I could adapt this for dublin bus, but I am not sure how useful it would be, the bus never turns up at the time on the timetable.
The point about Dorsh is that its realtime, so these are the times that are up on the electronic boards on the platforms.

flodis79

jmccrohan wrote:

Which? AFT or Dorsh?

Dorsh works fine! AFT too! Do you have problems with any of these apps on a Nokia 6070?

Jonathan

dal wrote:

Its definitely similar to AFT, except for one small difference. This uses a http get, AFT uses a HTTP post, but I wouldn't expect that to make a difference overall.
What kind of phone do you have?

Nokia 6233. Just was tinkering around and found out that the midp 1.0 version of AFT is working for me whereas i keep on getting message failed on the midp2.0 version. Is there a different method of sending between these?

Creamy Goodness

this will be dead handy if it works like it says on the box.

does it work for trains that go further ie. to the likes of wicklow/balbriggin or is it only dart trains?

cgarvey

dal wrote:

Its definitely similar to AFT, except for one small difference. This uses a http get, AFT uses a HTTP post, but I wouldn't expect that to make a difference overall.

It definitely would make a difference to a poorly configured proxy server between client & server (especially a deliberately poorly configured one!)

dal

jmccrohan wrote:

Nokia 6233. Just was tinkering around and found out that the midp 1.0 version of AFT is working for me whereas i keep on getting message failed on the midp2.0 version. Is there a different method of sending between these?

I *think* there might be, I will look into this for you.

Cremo wrote:

this will be dead handy if it works like it says on the box.

It does! It does!

Cremo wrote:

does it work for trains that go further ie. to the likes of wicklow/balbriggin or is it only dart trains?

It is only for DART trains, but I think Balbrigan has a dart station, no?
Basically the application does everything that this page does.

Creamy Goodness

aye just tried this now, obviously i only got one train as they are finishing up now but this is deadly. i can definitely see myself using this as it's annoying walking to the dart from college just to see that i have to wait another 20 minutes for a dart.

lostexpectation

dal wrote:

Here is an application I made a few days ago to give you real-time dart times on your mobile phone. You just enter in the station you are leaving from, the direction you are travelling in, and press ok. This contacts the dart website and gives back all the trains leaving within the next hour.
This is more acurate than timetables because (obviously) it is the real-time info.

Best of all, the application is free. Its free now and it always will be free (I just wrote it for fun).
The only price that you will pay is the data charge. I am on o2 and it costs a fraction of a cent for each query. On meteor and vodafone it will cost the minimum data charge (1c and 2c respectively I think).
Dart charge 30c per query for this through their text service, so you could save a bit if you use it regularly.

Let me know how it performs for you. I don't actually use the dart, so I don't get to use the app much.

The application is available here: http://www.dallan.co.uk/dorsh/Dorsh.jar and here is the jad file if you need it: http://www.dallan.co.uk/dorsh/Dorsh.jad

The source code is available (for free) for anyone who wants it. Just send me a pm.

how do load it onto you phone?

dal

lostexpectation wrote:

how do load it onto you phone?

You can use the browser on your phone to go to the .jar address given (or the .jad one if this doesn't work).
OR,
If you know how to hook your phone up to you computer (usb or bluetooth) you can transfer the jar directly.

Cremo wrote:

aye just tried this now, obviously i only got one train as they are finishing up now but this is deadly. i can definitely see myself using this as it's annoying walking to the dart from college just to see that i have to wait another 20 minutes for a dart.

Brilliant!

lostexpectation

dal wrote:

You can use the browser on your phone to go to the .jar address given (or the .jad one if this doesn't work).
OR,
If you know how to hook your phone up to you computer (usb or bluetooth) you can transfer the jar directly.

Brilliant!

ah ok I got and its in me app folder now cool try it tmw.

daymobrew

ciaranfo wrote:

Now, go make one for Dublin Bus!

I have a free app for Palm, Pocket PC and Windows for bus schedules. It uses the static timetables (which are updated when I get to it). If you can estimate the number of minutes you are from the terminus you can save yourself some mental calculations.

Also on the site is TrainSched, a static timetable app for Irish Rail commuter lines. There isn't a full DART timetable because it would take weeks to type it all out.

I would like to port both apps to Java for mobile phones.

failsafe

Just downloaded and used it on a K800i, works like a charm! My hats off to you man, another very clever, simple and useful app!

Now if only the list of darts from greystones had more frequent results......

AlmightyCushion

Must try this out. I can see this coming in very handy.

dal

failsafe wrote:

Just downloaded and used it on a K800i, works like a charm! My hats off to you man, another very clever, simple and useful app!

Now if only the list of darts from greystones had more frequent results......

Great to hear that you like it!

007

I've got it to work on my gf's K750 but I can't get it to work on my W810i. I've tried bluetoothing it from my laptop and then installing it, and downloading from the website through my WAP/GPRS. The application opens up alright, but it doesn't seem to be connecting to the interweb properly, any ideas?

dal

007 wrote:

I've got it to work on my gf's K750 but I can't get it to work on my W810i. I've tried bluetoothing it from my laptop and then installing it, and downloading from the website through my WAP/GPRS. The application opens up alright, but it doesn't seem to be connecting to the interweb properly, any ideas?

It sounds like the application has installed properly but that your internet settings are not correct.
Have you tried comparing the internet settings with the k750? There is also an option on sony ericssons where you select the connection settings to use for java applications.

AlmightyCushion

007 wrote:

I've got it to work on my gf's K750 but I can't get it to work on my W810i. I've tried bluetoothing it from my laptop and then installing it, and downloading from the website through my WAP/GPRS. The application opens up alright, but it doesn't seem to be connecting to the interweb properly, any ideas?

Are you on 3pay? It won't work for me and I'm pretty sure that is the problem.

Ibjiba

This is a very good idea. Great work!

007

Got it working, thanks. It was the Java settings, had to pick the correct network from the list.

dal

007 wrote:

Got it working, thanks. It was the Java settings, had to pick the correct network from the list.

Great news, happy dorshing!

WezzyB

http://www.irishrail.ie/realtime/ <-- site adapted for mobile devices

Just incase the Dorsh java app ever gets broken by changes to irishrail.ie

ChickenBalls

007 wrote: »

Got it working, thanks. It was the Java settings, had to pick the correct network from the list.

I got the K770i yesterday and this doesn't work. What Java settings did you pick? I've the 3 network - it did work fine on my 6280.

On my K770i I have 2 options in the java settings '3mms' and '3Browse'
Both dont work.

Any ideas? Anyone?

Sam Vimes

its 3browse. Try downloading opera mini and see if that can connect to the internet. That'll tell you if all java applications aren't working.

you have gone into the settings for java option and set that to use 3browse right?

would you have access to another 3 phone that you can put your sim in to test something? I had a problem with my 3 account where no java apps could access the internet and you might be having the same problem. If you swap your sim with someone else you'll be able to eliminate phone problems depending on what works where

ChickenBalls

Commander Vimes wrote: »

its 3browse. Try downloading opera mini and see if that can connect to the internet. That'll tell you if all java applications aren't working.

you have gone into the settings for java option and set that to use 3browse right?

would you have access to another 3 phone that you can put your sim in to test something? I had a problem with my 3 account where no java apps could access the internet and you might be having the same problem. If you swap your sim with someone else you'll be able to eliminate phone problems depending on what works where

Yeah it's 3Browse by default.
I used my sim chip in my 6280 and it works fine.
I'll get that opera mini and see if it works.

Ialso tried to put this on a mates Nokia 6234 and it didn't work either; got some array error. Could it be the phone's too old?

Rambo

Do you have this for Luas PLEASE PLEASE

dal

Rambo wrote: »

Do you have this for Luas PLEASE PLEASE

Is there a web page with realtime information for the Luas?

Sam Vimes

keith123 wrote: »

Yeah it's 3Browse by default.
I used my sim chip in my 6280 and it works fine.
I'll get that opera mini and see if it works.

Ialso tried to put this on a mates Nokia 6234 and it didn't work either; got some array error. Could it be the phone's too old?

its not because the phones too old. Tbh, i don't know whats wrong with it. I was trying to get aft working on my friend's 3 k610 last night (with a meteor sim in) and it kept on failing. The internet worked fine and opera did too but aft wouldn't for some reason. It might be something to do with the firmware that 3 put on the phone so flashing it with generic firmware might fix the problem

Davy

WezzyB wrote: »

http://www.irishrail.ie/realtime/ <-- site adapted for mobile devices

Just incase the Dorsh java app ever gets broken by changes to irishrail.ie

I have tried this on opera mini 3 and 4 and the nokia browser (N95) and cant select a station, cause it wants you to double click on the station

Davy

anyone who was having the same problem as me, i have away to get around it. go to http://www.iarnrodeireann.ie/your_journey/real_time_suburban_information.asp instead of the irishrail.ie/realtime.


The old site has a drop down menu which doesn't required the double click

Mimikyu

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Jonathan

Is this app still working? I was previously using it on o2 (albeit not recently... prob not since mid November) but have since switched to meteor and now its not working. I'm getting the same error as Solitaryman666 above.

Solitaryman666 wrote: »

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dal

Hi, I've fixed this (my server host upgraded their version of php and didn't tell me).
It will work now. The only tiny problem is that Clonsilla will appear as "null" in the results because it is not in the stations list in the app (I don't think this was a destination when I originally created the app).

Anyway, should be working now without the need to redownload the app.

Jonathan

dal wrote: »

Hi, I've fixed this (my server host upgraded their version of php and didn't tell me).
It will work now. The only tiny problem is that Clonsilla will appear as "null" in the results because it is not in the stations list in the app (I don't think this was a destination when I originally created the app).

Anyway, should be working now without the need to redownload the app.

Thanks a million dal.

ChickenBalls

That upgrade seems to of kicked mine into play - works
perfectly now on my k770i on the three network

Wasn't working at all before that.

moyne

Woo, working again! dal is a genius! This app is great, btw. Sooo handy. Thanks for it...
And thanks to jmccrohan for giving me it 2..

roscob

couple of mobile sites that you can get the info are i-enquire and tjamm. we've got a site called www.usemime.com where you can set them up and send to your phone.

Jonathan

roscob wrote: »

couple of mobile sites that you can get the info are i-enquire and tjamm. we've got a site called www.usemime.com where you can set them up and send to your phone.

All great in theory.... I'm stickin with Dorsh tho. Costs the least by a long shot.

Raam

Dal,
any chance you could have a look at updating so that you can save the timetable response as a text file to your phone?
P

Jonathan

Raam wrote: »

Dal,
any chance you could have a look at updating so that you can save the timetable response as a text file to your phone?
P

Mind me asking what use this would be? Just wondering cause its realtime so it would be outdated in minutes...

Raam

jmccrohan wrote: »

Mind me asking what use this would be? Just wondering cause its realtime so it would be outdated in minutes...

If the next train in is, say, 20 minutes, and 25 minutes, you can save this info to a temporary place. For the more forgetful of us.

quintron

This app rocks! Moving out to the 'burbs and will be using this every day! nice one dal.

dal

quintron wrote: »

This app rocks! Moving out to the 'burbs and will be using this every day! nice one dal.

Great to hear that you like it!