New M50 Speed Camera??

Keith C

Just got an email reading below:

Speed Camera appeared on M50 last night. Same as the 2 cameras near to

the Airport. Lines put on the road last night, pole and bracket for

Camera is standing. Expect the Camera itself to be up tonight!



Camera is positioned going Northbound just after Tallaght junction where

the cars merge.



This is the point at which the current roadworks start, there are big

signs up for 60 km/h.

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Anyone notice it this morning?

Saruman

Saw the lines and pole yesterday afternoon.
No one is obeying the 60kph speed limit and there are signs for Garda speed checks.

KeRbDoG

Another new one, just on the southside of the M50 Bridge over the Liffey, aiming at traffic heading south. Looks like its more to catch traffic going up the off ramp to the Lucan road.

Mitch Connor

i was going through there this morning and both lanes going northbound were sticking to the 60kph limit, this was at about 7.

seamus

Yeah, saw the northbound one last night. Unlike the ones near the M1 junction, you can't see the lines until you're on top of them, and they haven't put up any signage yet.

I'd say these will just cause worse tailbacks at times when traffic is light.

mr_angry

Saw the Northbound one at Greenhills Park going up over the past couple of days. There was some activity at it this morning, so it looks like it will be up and running by tonight.

You can almost see it on the traffic monitoring camera for Greenhills Park:
http://www.dublincity.ie/living_in_the_city/getting_around/traffic_cameras/

That one outside the toll bridge is going to be unpleasant. Trying to come out of the EasyPass lane and sticking to 60kph is nearly impossible. The number of merging lanes means that you need some leeway to adjust your position relative to other vehicles. Still... the law is the law. I guess we just have to live with it.

I.S.T.

Stick the new camera locations in here lads, if you don't mind! Thanks.

http://www.irishspeedtraps.com/input_location.aspx

copacetic

saw the lines this morning and they were doing work where I guess the camera will go, it is going to be interesting seeing people go from 100-60km/h in a few feet as they look to have painted them right at the very start of the 60 km/h zone.

To top it off I got a speed notice in the post for those bloody roadworks today. How you are meant to do 60 in them without getting run off the road I dunno although looks like I was way over. Don't remember the van but it is so long ago I don't know how you could. The notice is from 25th of Feb, I could easily be getting another 5 since then and be off the road soon!

I.S.T.

copacetic wrote:

saw the lines this morning and they were doing work where I guess the camera will go, it is going to be interesting seeing people go from 100-60km/h in a few feet as they look to have painted them right at the very start of the 60 km/h zone.

To top it off I got a speed notice in the post for those bloody roadworks today. How you are meant to do 60 in them without getting run off the road I dunno although looks like I was way over. Don't remember the van but it is so long ago I don't know how you could. The notice is from 25th of Feb, I could easily be getting another 5 since then and be off the road soon!

Bad luck. Best thing when driving on the M50 is to stay in the driving (left) lane, it is easier to stick to the 60kmh there.

RoadRunner

just drive in the slow lane on the right :rolleyes:

Reesy

I sympathise with posters who are wary of sticking to the speed limit. A year or 2 back I drove from Dublin to Rosslare obeying the speed limit the whole way - and at the time there was a 60km/h limit thru some very long roadworks on the N11. I drive an MX5. Trucks, big saloons, 4x4s would come up on me really fast then hit the brakes at the last minute really hard when they realised how slow I was going. Very scary, I won't be trying that again anytime soon.

Of course, if the enforcement was thorough & consistent, then it would not be scary at all. And I'll show my backside in BT's window if ministerial cars stop breaking the speed limit!

R.

drdre

Yes i noticed them yesterday on the way to the airport.Its only a 60kph zone:mad:

fletch

I passed it last night at 60kph as cars flashed by me going considerably faster. Is the camera not enabled yet as I didn't see it flash. Do I not recall some law whereby they have to have a signpost up indicating that there is a speed camera ahead?

faceman

about time they put more enforcement in place on the m50. People just arent sticking to the speed limit and that road is lethal in some parts.

Mitch Connor

faceman wrote:

about time they put more enforcement in place on the m50. People just arent sticking to the speed limit and that road is lethal in some parts.

i agree people don't stick to the limit (and the damned Mortons double decker was right up the arse of my car this morning becauae i was sticking to the limit) but i disagree with the road being "lethal in some places".

faceman

Tauren wrote:

i agree people don't stick to the limit (and the damned Mortons double decker was right up the arse of my car this morning becauae i was sticking to the limit) but i disagree with the road being "lethal in some places".

when i need to travel the m50 i usually take my motorbike and the road is completely uneven in parts, particularly the left lane where the removing of the old paint lines has left plenty of bumps in the road.

PLus the road is pretty narrow in most sections, and while it may seem quite easy for drivers to do 120k, a minor misjudgement or slip could be fatal.

testicle

fletch wrote:

I passed it last night at 60kph as cars flashed by me going considerably faster. Is the camera not enabled yet as I didn't see it flash. Do I not recall some law whereby they have to have a signpost up indicating that there is a speed camera ahead?

The actual camera is not there yet.

Mitch Connor

faceman wrote:

when i need to travel the m50 i usually take my motorbike and the road is completely uneven in parts, particularly the left lane where the removing of the old paint lines has left plenty of bumps in the road.

PLus the road is pretty narrow in most sections, and while it may seem quite easy for drivers to do 120k, a minor misjudgement or slip could be fatal.

no motorbike rider i have seen seems to care, i have never seen one obeying the rules of the road on the M50, on any section of it. Probably never seen you on it though, so its not a comment directly at you.

The only section i think is a bit iffy is the Ballymount(?) section just beofre the turn off for the N7 - it does get a bit thin there. I've never noticed the road surface being particularly poor for the rest of the M50, but i suppose in a car i wouldn't notice as easily.

ciarsd

testicle wrote:

The actual camera is not there yet.

Northbound, I believe it is. Have not passed the southbound section yet to see whats happening there, next to the toll booth's..

faceman

Tauren wrote:

no motorbike rider i have seen seems to care, i have never seen one obeying the rules of the road on the M50, on any section of it. Probably never seen you on it though, so its not a comment directly at you.

Its lke drivin a car, there are good and bad drivers among us all but at times it seems there are more bad drivers out there than good!

Gran Hermano

testicle wrote:

The actual camera is not there yet.

There were two Serco vans there at 9.00 this morning working
on the camera. I'd be surprised if it's not operational today.
http://www.serco-is.com/specialist_services_trafic.htm

seamus

Tauren wrote:

no motorbike rider i have seen seems to care, i have never seen one obeying the rules of the road on the M50, on any section of it. Probably never seen you on it though, so its not a comment directly at you.

The only section i think is a bit iffy is the Ballymount(?) section just beofre the turn off for the N7 - it does get a bit thin there. I've never noticed the road surface being particularly poor for the rest of the M50, but i suppose in a car i wouldn't notice as easily.

The left hand lane for most of the roadworks is a complete mess. As you pass the interchanges, there's a series of bumps where they've scraped out the old road markngs. After you pass the N7 interchange, the road is continually potholed, and for a number of months, the extreme left hand side of the left hand lane has been collapsing into the verge. They just keep filling it in, but it's massively uneven. As you approach the N4, the road gets slightly narrower and a lot bendier.

These are all things that would easily catch out a learner or a trucker who was half asleep. I haven't driven a bike on the M50 since they started the works, but I can't imagine it's a barrel of laughs.

McCalvin

Tauren wrote:

no motorbike rider i have seen seems to care, i have never seen one obeying the rules of the road on the M50, on any section of it. .

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Where as car drivers always stay in the driving lane rather than the overtaking lane, never speed and always indicate when changing lanes.

Mitch Connor

McCalvin wrote:

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Where as car drivers always stay in the driving lane rather than the overtaking lane, never speed and always indicate when changing lanes.

ah - but i have actually seen drivers obey the rules, never seen a biker do so on the m50 - seriously, never.

Anyway, i don't want to get into a car vs bike argument, i'm not intellegent enough for it - so you win.

Seamus - i take your point about the road after the N7 turn off. I've never driven further then the N7 turn off so i have no experience of what it is like beyond it - i have been up along it the odd time with the GF when we have been going to Liffey Valley, but not in a while, and well....i'm usually half asleep at that point, don't know why!

Stark

Tauren wrote:

ah - but i have actually seen drivers obey the rules, never seen a biker do so on the m50 - seriously, never.

Many car drivers don't see motorcycles full stop

antodeco

Has the one at the toll bridge gone up yet?!

As rightly said, you do need to get some form of speed to get in front of 5 trucks coming from your left.

Im just wondering that when the roadworks do end (in 2076!!) how long will it take them to re-adjust the cameras?!

copacetic

ciarsd wrote:

Northbound, I believe it is. Have not passed the southbound section yet to see whats happening there, next to the toll booth's..

yes, it definitely is there northbound, there was a van beside it today as if they were still setting it up...

Hotblack Desiato

Tauren wrote:

no motorbike rider i have seen seems to care, i have never seen one obeying the rules of the road on the M50, on any section of it. Probably never seen you on it though, so its not a comment directly at you.

:rolleyes: You gotta love that little disclaimer on the end though.
It's like saying to a black man "All blacks I see are lazy b*stards, not you though" as if that last bit makes it all right.
There's a lot of very trolly anti-bike comments in Motors today...

Mitch Connor

ninja900 wrote:

:rolleyes: You gotta love that little disclaimer on the end though.
It's like saying to a black man "All blacks I see are lazy b*stards, not you though" as if that last bit makes it all right.
There's a lot of very trolly anti-bike comments in Motors today...

erm - how is it? I said no motorbike rider i have SEEN on the m50 obeys the rules of the road. And that is the truth, every single one of them has been speeding. I do the speed limit in every section of the m50 and i have never once overtook or kept pace with a bike. Never. That is a simply fact. Don't try and compare it to a racist comment.

My comment was fair comment.

If some riders obeyed the rules, i would have said most i have seen haven't. If most i saw did obey the rules of the road i wouldn't have said anything. However, it is FACT that i have NEVER seen a motorbike not breaking the speed limit on the m50.

antodeco

that southbound one is very hidden! Right behind the bridge! Also, the white speed lines are marked off in the middle of the faded yellow box! Thats sneaky!!

The northbound one was connected up around midday today. Some arseh@le nearly went into the back of me as I was travelling 60kmh along the white lines.

Also, the guards were out on the chapelizod bypass today! Managed to see them as I was going up the hill under the truck! (i saw the reflection of the garda car under it!!)

Traumadoc

Are there plans to put speed cameras in wheelie bins as they are doing in Australia
http://aussieexotics.com/category/speed-cameras/

The story is at the bottom of the web page.

Del2005

Traumadoc wrote:

Are there plans to put speed cameras in wheelie bins as they are doing in Australia
http://aussieexotics.com/category/speed-cameras/

The story is at the bottom of the web page.

Don't know about here yet, but the Americans are putting speed cameras in cheery pickers on the side of the road. Looks like a person working on a street lights but no its a cop with a speed gun! They are hidding in all sorts of places/vehicles.

Ay Cee

The southbound M50 camera is up, seen it this morning. At the Lucan exit. Yeah, the white lines are bit difficult to see.

I'd say the few of us here are the only ones to stick to the limit on the M50 through the works. The amount of people who whizz past me while I'm doing 60km. I had a lorry right up my ar$e a few weeks ago on a Sunday. There was feck all traffic and I was in the normal left hand lane. There was nothing in the overtaking lane and he still was right up on top of me. I thought I was going to have to pull my seat forward in case he needed extra leg room in the back.

He was uncomfotably close so I flashed my brake lights at him. He starts flashing like mad at me! Like I was doing something wrong. He was the one tailgating! Muppet!

Hotblack Desiato

Tauren wrote:

erm - how is it? I said no motorbike rider i have SEEN on the m50 obeys the rules of the road.

You're trying to wriggle out of it, but it's exactly the same thing. You're making a slur on a whole group of people based on your claims of observing certain behaviour from a small subset of them.

And that is the truth, every single one of them has been speeding. I do the speed limit in every section of the m50 and i have never once overtook or kept pace with a bike. Never. That is a simply fact. Don't try and compare it to a racist comment.

If there was a bike 2 cars ahead of you, or 2 cars behind you, doing exactly the same speed as you then you'd never see it, you would never pass it, and it would never pass you. So the only bikes you see are the ones overtaking you, therefore you conclude that all motorcyclists break the law :rolleyes:

Why are you picking on bikers anyway? Most car drivers break the rules of the road on the M50 - speeding, failing to indicate and observe properly when changing lane, failing to yield when merging, tailgating, provisional licence rules, and many more. Yet out of all this anarchy you choose to pick on motorcyclists alone, and claim that they're all lawbreakers when that is simply not true.

Mitch Connor

ninja900 wrote:

You're trying to wriggle out of it, but it's exactly the same thing. You're making a slur on a whole group of people based on your claims of observing certain behaviour from a small subset of them.



If there was a bike 2 cars ahead of you, or 2 cars behind you, doing exactly the same speed as you then you'd never see it, you would never pass it, and it would never pass you. So the only bikes you see are the ones overtaking you, therefore you conclude that all motorcyclists break the law :rolleyes:

Why are you picking on bikers anyway? Most car drivers break the rules of the road on the M50 - speeding, failing to indicate and observe properly when changing lane, failing to yield when merging, tailgating, provisional licence rules, and many more. Yet out of all this anarchy you choose to pick on motorcyclists alone, and claim that they're all lawbreakers when that is simply not true.

whatever, not point continuing this. we are not going to agree.

Seth Brundle

Tauren wrote:

If some riders obeyed the rules, i would have said most i have seen haven't. If most i saw did obey the rules of the road i wouldn't have said anything. However, it is FACT that i have NEVER seen a motorbike not breaking the speed limit on the m50.

If you were to examine it properly, you would find that 99.9% of M50 users do something to break the rules, whether it is not being in the correct lane, speeding (even just a little bit), driving too close to the car in front or whatever.
The majority of bikers that I see on the M50 are no different but I do not consider them to be driving dangerously or inconvienencing others

MAYPOP

Ay Cee wrote:

The southbound M50 camera is up, seen it this morning. At the Lucan exit. Yeah, the white lines are bit difficult to see.

The big 60km/h signs are a lot easier to see:p

faolteam

Just a quick question if the speed camera on the M 50 :rolleyes: is working is there not suppose to be a flash after u pass it or is this just at night ???

and were is the other speed camera is it at the Toll bridge ????

would some clever clog draw a map of the m50 so we can see were the speed cameras are lol

Seth Brundle

They flash when they catch cars speeding, day or night.

The locations of the 3 M50 cameras are:
Northbound:
1. just after traffic merges from Tallaght and the road works start. Speed Limit = 60 km/h
2. about 200m before the speed limit drops as you approach the M1 slip road - it is roughly over the old airport road at santry. Speed Limit = 120km/h
Soouthbound:
1. (I haven't seen it as I won't use the toll bridge) Under the N4 flyover. Speed Limit = 60 km/h

Marcus.Aurelius

I think these are the new GATSO speed cameras that can work at night too. Shouldn't they have warning signs before them??? If an accident happened because people braked too hard you could sue the state for gross negligence. Another point, are these the new private ones? If they are, they wont give you any leeway, like a Garda might, these private a$sholes are in it for the money

tabatha

is there a camera just before the toll bridge going southbound? i was approaching the bridge last night going about 70 and could have sworn i seen a flash.

The tax man

maoleary wrote:

I think these are the new GATSO speed cameras that can work at night too. Shouldn't they have warning signs before them??? If an accident happened because people braked too hard you could sue the state for gross negligence. Another point, are these the new private ones? If they are, they wont give you any leeway, like a Garda might, these private a$sholes are in it for the money

Big electronic sign before the one at Tallaght. "Warning speed camera in operation" along side the sign already telling motorists to slow down to 60km.
They'll probably stick up one of those signs with the picture of a camera on it but if you can't see the 2 huge electronic signs and don't slow down in time,well though shíte.

testicle

The tax man wrote:

They'll probably stick up one of those signs with the picture of a camera on it

They'll have to, as they can't legally prosecute anyone for speeding without them.

Sonnenblumen

Keith C wrote:

Just got an email reading below:

Speed Camera appeared on M50 last night. Same as the 2 cameras near to

the Airport. Lines put on the road last night, pole and bracket for

Camera is standing. Expect the Camera itself to be up tonight!



Camera is positioned going Northbound just after Tallaght junction where

the cars merge.



This is the point at which the current roadworks start, there are big

signs up for 60 km/h.

**********************************************************

Anyone notice it this morning?

No big deal, sure there's a 'FOR SALE' sign on them now.

Pataman

testicle wrote:

They'll have to, as they can't legally prosecute anyone for speeding without them.

Why can't they?

testicle

Pataman wrote:

Why can't they?

Obviously enough because fixed speed camers have to have them.

I.S.T.

kbannon wrote:

1. (I haven't seen it as I won't use the toll bridge) Under the N4 flyover. Speed Limit = 60 km/h

It's not under the N4 bridge, it's before that, just as you come off the toll bridge heading southbound, on the left before you come to the slip road for the N4

Seth Brundle

maoleary wrote:

I think these are the new GATSO speed cameras that can work at night too. Shouldn't they have warning signs before them??? If an accident happened because people braked too hard you could sue the state for gross negligence. Another point, are these the new private ones? If they are, they wont give you any leeway, like a Garda might, these private a$sholes are in it for the money

The flash would get you from behind and shouldn't affect oncoming traffic. I often saw cameras going off on the M50 and N4 at nighttime - were these night-time operable or did the street lighting affect them?
As for accidents - whilst there is anecdotal evidence that there are increases in incidents adjacent to cameras, the cameras don't cause these - dozy drivers not paying attention or driving too close do!
Anyhow, how are the state eing negligent by trying to enforce the law in getting people to drive slowly and more safely?

tabatha wrote:

is there a camera just before the toll bridge going southbound? i was approaching the bridge last night going about 70 and could have sworn i seen a flash.

Not that I know of and you would presumably have been under the 120km/h speed limit

testicle wrote:

They'll have to, as they can't legally prosecute anyone for speeding without them.

Source? How do they manage prosecutions using hand held devices, talivans and mobile patrols without advance warning signage?

testicle wrote:

Obviously enough because fixed speed camers have to have them.

source?

IrishSpeedTraps wrote:

It's not under the N4 bridge, it's before that, just as you come off the toll bridge heading southbound, on the left before you come to the slip road for the N4

I did say that i hadn't seen it and was going from another post in this thread. Anyhow, thanks for the clarification.

The tax man

kbannon wrote:

The locations of the 3 M50 cameras are:

Don't forget about the one along side the Ballymun slip heading southbound. So 4 in total.:)

Drove past the one at Tallaght this evening,within the limit:D ,but a good few cars flew past well over 60kph but didn't see the camera flashing. Just wondering if it's actually active yet?? Saw the bloke on friday working on it and the little box a few feet away.

Seth Brundle

The one at Ballymun was removed and seemingly placed at one of the two new locations.

The tax man

kbannon wrote:

The one at Ballymun was removed and seemingly placed at one of the two new locations.

LOL:D I apologise.