[US] Heroes - 1x17 - Company Man [*Spoilers*] Now with Poll!

Irishpimpdude

My dear cousins in canada aired heroes a day early

From tv.com

Matt Parkman and Ted Sprague arrive in Texas in search of answers and take HRG and his family hostage. More is revealed about Mr. Bennet, the agency for which he works, and how he found Claire.

Basq

Was sure it was a fake but nope.. review when i get home from work!



Boo-yah!

BigDragon

Gets better and better. Lots of questions answered.....but more created

Trippie

Great

yep another brilliant episode,

does this discredit most of the opinions of how the showdown with sylar will go now that two of the characters are in lock-up and look like they will be there for the foreseable future. will the Haitian take claire and go looking for claude and peter and then try and break them out?


also who will be leading the chase against the heroes now that mr. bennett is gone.will there be someone new or will that guy take over and howcome hiro wasnt taken to the company as his father knows about his powers and they are supposed to turn everyone in.

and what powers does the new chick have?

thelordofcheese

Okay

My cousins were a bit slow this week, only got around to seeing it there.

Pretty good episode, so many things coming together. And on the plus side i hope to see alot less of claire for the next few episodes. yes it's interesting, but there is only so long i can stomach her constant blubbering. I don't know about anyone else, but i though the whole walking out of her house with most of her skin charred was probably the biggest nod to wolverine yet. All she needed was a cigar and a canadian accent.

Good to get a bit of background on claude, i wonder which hero he was hiding, or have we yet to meet them?

And as someone pointed out Hiro is special, but his father doesn't seem to have turned him in.... maybe his father is alot like Mr bennet in that he's trying to protect his son. Or he simply doesn't believe that hiro has any powers, hiro has never told him as far as we know. And with hiros powers currently on the wane his father might just think he's a bit of a nerd with a less than firm grip on reality [read Hiro's blog to see what i mean]

And wheres the poll, i demand to vote!

Mossy Monk

Great

i loved this episode. loved all the flashbacks and the whole nearly blowing up by Ted was kind of cool

tvnutz

Great

Great episode. This show just gets better and better! Love it! Loved Ted nearly going nuclear,loved Claire walking out of the house all charred and then healing. Matt working for the company? Interesting. I presume Bennett is not gone,the shooting was a obviously a cover so he didn't have to hand over claire and his memory wipe or memory adjustment was probably so that Matt wouldn't be able to read his mind and find out what really happened.

Some good back story on Bennett and Claude. As well as Hiro's father. Interesting to see how involved he really is.

Ponster

Great

Hero's father hardly knows that his son has powers does he? All he knows is that he disappeared to the USA a couple of weeks ago.

For those who don't know, next week is the last episode of Season 1.

Basq

Ponster wrote:

For those who don't know, next week is the last episode of Season 1.

No, it's not. It's just a break for a couple of weeks.

Ponster

Great

Yeah, I guessed that it should have 22 or 24 as normal but when they last took a break they at least had the title of the next episode displayed on tv.com

Cabaal

Great

Got to say it was a pretty good episode, especially like the bit with Claire walking out of the house regenerating, pretty cool

Sleepy

Great episode. A few answers, some good fleshing out of current characters and the introduction of a new one.

I loved the whole set up of the company and that Claude used to work for them - guessing it's going to have been a woman that he hid from the company, presumably one we haven't met yet.

Was good to see baby Hiro even if we didn't get any 'realtime' updates on what's happening with him.

monkeyfudge

Great

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I've added a poll... Vote away!

Basq

Yep.. fantastic stuff.

Guess we now finally know the answer on whether Mr Bennett was a good guy or bad guy after all - and his death was quite nicely done.

The question is why did Mr Bennett want to be shot the same place he shot Claude? How did Claude survive that? Am guessing Christopher Eccleston will be around for a couple more episodes to explain it.

Very interesting to see Hiro's father involved in all this - i was thinking once i saw "George Takei" in the credits at the start, how are they gonna involve him in this? Thinking back now, it's probably the reason Hiro's father came to get him in New York to bring him back to Tokyo. He knew that Bennett and / or the company would find him eventually.. and wanted to protect him.

Think it was my favourite episode of the season - we got a lot of answers, a lot of 'oh shit' moments, and more interaction between heroes (Parkman and Claire), the death of Bennett was very moving. And makes way for a helluva set-up for the final episodes of the season.

PS - did i mention how cool the black and white flashback moments were? Just downright stupendously directed.
PPS - and was written by executive producer Bryan Fuller who's also has a very promising past having created two cult favourites - 'Dead Like Me' and 'Wonderfalls'

monkeyfudge

Great

basquille wrote:

the death of Bennett was very moving. And makes way for a helluva set-up for the final episodes of the season.

Sheesh... pay attention... ha... he's not dead. He asked to be shot in the gut and have his memory wiped so it would look like the Haitian captured Claire from him.

Brilliant episode though.

Was the woman in the room near the end where they had Parkman on the operating the table the woman who was the technopath from last week who sent them both to Bennett's house in the first place?

Claire was certainly very much like Wolverine this week. Especially the fight he had with Nitro last year in the Civil War series... Nitro was a villian who could blow himself up.

Basq

monkeyfudge wrote:

Sheesh... pay attention... ha... he's not dead. He asked to be shot in the gut and have his memory wiped so it would look like the Haitian captured Claire from him.

OK.. i may have drifted off a tad! Though what's the significance of the location.. that's annoying me!

monkeyfudge wrote:

as the woman in the room near the end where they had Parkman on the operating the table the woman who was the technopath from last week who sent them both to Bennett's house in the first place?

Yeah.. that's exactly who i though it was. The woman that showed up at Ted's hideout. Correct me if i'm wrong.

monkeyfudge

Great

basquille wrote:

Yeah.. that's exactly who i though it was. The woman that showed up at Ted's hideout. Correct me if i'm wrong.

You know I was convinced that she was also in the house at the end of the last episode, so I was really confused at the beginning of this one.

Guess I wasn't paying attention last week.

Basq

monkeyfudge wrote:

Guess I wasn't paying attention last week.

Pretty sure she wasn't at the house last week. But i too find myself getting a tad confused sometimes the way they have a tendency of rolling back over scenes and repeat dialogue after a break / start of an episode.

For example: last week Parkman and Ted were in the middle of the confrontation with the Bennett's in their house. This week is opened with them breaking in.

Mossy Monk

Great

monkeyfudge wrote:

You know I was convinced that she was also in the house at the end of the last episode, so I was really confused at the beginning of this one.

Guess I wasn't paying attention last week.

not just me then. i thought she was there too. just looked at the end of last weeks and turns out she wasnt there at all

Gareth2303

Great

basquille wrote:

... and repeat dialogue after a break / start of an episode.

Repeat the dialogue in a different tone, last week, parkman said it with authority...
"I bet you have a lot of questions... we all do..."

This week, he said it as if he was scared :P..

I just finished watching it ... great episode in a totally different way from 16.. i'll post an indepth review tomorrow along with two pictures from the episode

Ivan

Great

Mr. Bennet wasnt killed, at least not my impression anyways.

The location that the whole last act took place at was significant in that that was where he had his showdown with Claude, but I guess thats not what you meant

The significance of where he was shot was that, as he said in the episode "2 inches higher and he's a dead man" so it looks believable.

Then the haitian went to the bother of wiping his memory afterwards.
But you want to know who the new bad guy will be? I reckon it could quite easily still be Mr. Bennet. Without any memory of the whole incident that would incriminate him, how is he to know that he took part in claires escape?
If they are to work so hard as to make it appear to the company that Mr. Bennet was carrying out his instructions, then by the same token it will appear to him that he was trying to follow instructions too. Therefore he will think he was on their side, thus he will be on their side...

In the end, he might have actually been better off just killing himself, which is what I thought they were originally going to do.

Fantastic episode though. I liked the brief flash of Claires skin peeling away as she approached ted, though I'm a little upset with the lack of radiation poisoning. Wasnt teds wife killed by his radiation and then ted is a few moments from going nuclear but everyone gets off with all their hair intact? Seems a bit of a rip off

doonothing

woooooooooo! heroes is deadly.. hopefully it wont start gettin crap til season 3..
what an ep! i like the way there's genuinely no character so central that they cant go a week without him/her making an appearance, the multiple storyline yoke is working so well!

oh and, id say mr bennet will still be the pursuer, there'll surely be a nice moment somewhere in a future ep of him pointin a gun/tranq gun at claire about to cart her away or something, her teary eyed "dad..somewhere inside you know that you love me more than this bla bla", lovely and dramatic!

monkeyfudge

Great

Oh... and it looks like the fire where they found Claire took place on that same rooftop again.

S.M.B.

This episode seemed like it belonged to a completely different TV series to me. And by that I mean that I thought it was ten times better than any of the previous episodes.

No 'outer limits' style voiceover, no dull Niki/Micah/DL storyline, no weighty exposition for Mohinder to painfully deliver, actually no Mohinder at all. All this resulted in an episode with a much more even tone which I hope they manage to maintain. I also thought that the shows best acting talent were all used for this episode.

It doesn't surprise me at all that it was written by Bryan Fuller, the Wonderfalls creator. Unfortunately I can't see them maintaining this high quality with the return of Mohinder and Peter 'Little Nicky' Petrelli.

tba

Okay

Cover Winkler in BEES!

L31mr0d

Okay

Good episode, although imo it wasn't as good as last weeks, so I gave it a "great" rating.

Few things still have me boggled:

1. Where did the girl who can transmit her thoughts to computers go? where did she come from? why was she introduced? I too thought she was in the Mr. Bennets house.

2. How was Parkman captured by the company? I mean one scene they where watching the fire burn down, the next they are both tied to tables at the paper company?

3. already mentioned, but why was nobody affected by radiation?

I had some more questions but I can't think of them right now.

Also, loved the flashbacks, LOST should take a leaf out of heroes book on how to do them. 16 years over a period of 40 minutes... booyah!

I also thought the whole effects around the scene with the guy going nuclear, the house burning and claires skin melting could of been taken from a boxoffice movie. I also love the effects they use to focus on someone really close to the camera and someone far away.

all in all, the last 2 episodes have really set the bar now for other shows and heroes to follow. Unlike LOST, I don't mind that they are going to be taking a break, because they are answering, or at least dealing with most of the mysteries and questions before the break. Although I hope they have a huge cliffhanger next week just to build the suspense.

Talisman

L31mr0d wrote:

1. Where did the girl who can transmit her thoughts to computers go? where did she come from? why was she introduced? I too thought she was in the Mr. Bennets house.

You need to read the graphic novels to get the back story to her. She first appears in #13.

L31mr0d

Okay

...makes sense, haven't really had the time to do that but I suppose with the 5 week gap coming up it will give me plenty of time

Ste.phen

monkeyfudge wrote:

Oh... and it looks like the fire where they found Claire took place on that same rooftop again.

Nah, I think that's just where the handover of Claire to Mr Bennett happened, the fire was in Texas somewhere, was it not?

tba

Okay

Its in this weeks comic...

I like the way absolutely nobody has said

OMG!!!! What happens to Simone?!?!?!?!

Mr E

Great

L31mr0d wrote:

I also thought the whole effects around the scene with the guy going nuclear, the house burning and claires skin melting could of been taken from a boxoffice movie.

I agree, but having said that, the effect of the door handle melting at the start was absolutely terrible....

doonothing

tba wrote:

Its in this weeks comic...

I like the way absolutely nobody has said

OMG!!!! What happens to Simone?!?!?!?!

haha! completely forgot about that
i guess it shows
no one cares.

Overheal

Great

How is it I am the last person to see this episode? I can't find it anywhere ................................. P.oor M.e

eh scratch my last i found it

EDIT: good episode. Liked the way it stuck with the one situation: a complete break from the norm; we havent heard from anyone else this week.

I hate to admit it though; I want to know what happened with the Nikki/DL thread..and we havent seen Nathan in a while...AND WHEN WILL HIRO MAKE IT TO VEGAS???

Ps. The Techno-girls AKA. "Wireless"

Frankiestylee

Great

I'm so glad loads of other people thought "wireless" was in the house at the end of ep 16. I was so sure she was, but when I checked back the episode had been deleted.

I thought the effects on Claire's skin were really impressive.

I didn't like the whole radiation thing, it really didn't make any sense, especially with Parkman touching him twice and looking alright for it. Pretty sure if it was bad enough to set everything on fire then it should have started melting everyones faces, not only super Claire's.
If you look at an earlier episode where all the grass around the guy dies and he's just standing there, you'd imagine him freaking out would be awesome. Quite disappointed we didn't see a mushroom cloud.

Has anyone confirmed if Wireless was indeed the same girl as the one at the very end? If it is then it suggests either the company suspect Bennet or else they have themselves a mole.

Still no answer as to who or what can dampen a character's powers then... whatever it is would have been used to stop radiation boy.


About the bridge where Bennet got shot... I reckon that's Bennet's place for whacking people off, so they probably wanted to make it look like he was bringing the Haitin there to kill him or something.

Overheal

Great

If you ^ had read the graphic novels yet; you would know

She works for them.

Its perfectly OK to read the graphic novels: they are meant to be deleted scenes if nothing else.

sarahn11

Great

i really enjoyed this epsode.....and each week im loving heroes more and more! its very cleverly writtena dn thought out...the acting is supurb and the storylines are actually quite believable!


i looked back on episode 16 and the 'wireless' chick was NOT in the hallway of the Bennett house when they broke in so.....that answers that!

i DO think however that its the same girl that we see standing over Matt when he is tied down in ep 17....they look the same, but im sure that will be confirmed soon enough! maybe she was trying to draw him out of hiding so they could capture him?!?

ixoy

Great

Brilliant episode and great to see that they can break away from the usual mould of following different characters around.

The house being fried by the nuclear radiation was extremely well executed and the camera work throughout was movie level quality.

Interesting point about Bennett maybe being the new Big Bad - would be a nice twist....

Anyone else geeky enough to laugh at how the Doctor's arch nemesis was Claude's boss in this (guest star Eric Roberts played "The Master" in the woeful 1996 TV movie and was the boss of Claude aka Christopher Eccelstion aka the Doctor in this one)? No? Just me then?

Goodshape

Okay

Another great episode.

And I too was sure that cyber lady was in the house at the end of last weeks. Strange.

Also, isn't the Haitian supposed to suppress peoples abilities? Why not just send him in to calm nuclear man?

monkeyfudge

Great

Goodshape wrote:

Also, isn't the Haitian supposed to suppress peoples abilities? Why not just send him in to calm nuclear man?

Yeah... It looks like someone else that we haven't seen must be behind that ability. As when the Haitian was introduced to Bennett no mention was made of any power other than his memory stealing abilities.

Have powers ever been blocked anywhere other than the paper factory?

Frankiestylee

Great

monkeyfudge wrote:

Yeah... It looks like someone else that we haven't seen must be behind that ability. As when the Haitian was introduced to Bennett no mention was made of any power other than his memory stealing abilities.

Have powers ever been blocked anywhere other than the paper factory?

Weren't Sylar's powers blocked when they captured him, or did Voice-lady say something before he had a chance to kick ass?

Are the graphic novels widely available?

tba

Okay

Surely that can't be Hana at the end of this episode, she used to work for bennett right? so why would he trust her after such an absense?

hshortt

Okay

Interesting that a number of people thought they seen 'Wireless' at the end of EP16 in the house. Me too! What's going on, have our minds been altered

ixoy

Great

Count me, by the way, as someone who thought 'Wireless' was there at the end of Ep16.

tba

Okay

Is it wireless, I say no

Vokes

hshortt wrote:

Interesting that a number of people thought they seen 'Wireless' at the end of EP16 in the house. Me too! What's going on, have our minds been altered

Wow, me too!

Anyone been visited by any Haitians recently ?

monkeyfudge

Great

tba wrote:

Is it wireless, I say no

Yep... the jawline is completely different.

L31mr0d

Okay

I think people are assuming she was in the house because she was there when matt, duke nukem and wireless where introduced, she was there when they where getting ready to go to mr. bennets house also, so it would only be obvious that she would join them going to Mr. Bennets house as she was the one who instigated them to want to go in the first place.

I dunno, maybe next we'll see that they split up, 2 of them going to his house and wireless going to the paper factory

tba

Okay

Wireless is looking for Linderman

LFCFan

Great

I wonder will it turn out that Linderman is related to all the Heroes in some way and is the 'Daddy' so to speak who has the master gene that started all this?

Ho-Hum

Okay

Great episode really gave alot of insight into Bennets past and while answering alot of questions , it brought up a whole new set.

What will happen to Parkman and the radiation guy in captivity?
Will Bennet go into full on bad guy mode now that his memory has been wiped?
How far involved is Hiros father?
And does he know about Hiro?

Bacchus

Great

Best piece of televeision since Battlestar Gallactica's Exodus two part at the start of season 3. That was by far the best episode of Heroes yet.
It's all been said here already but I loved how they showed Bennets back story and it really lined it up well for his farewell with Claire. Dying to know what happens with him (and Claire & Haitian dude) next. The hostage situation was dealt with very well and I love how the writters used the characters powers. Matt getting instructions from Bennet via mind reading, shooting Claire to diffuse the situation (no pun intended), Haitian wiping Bennets mind, Bennet thinking in Japanese so Matt can't understand.
The effects were blockbuster movie standard aswell. The radiation effects and Claire healing herself were very well done.
I think what made this episode stand out over the rest (aside from what I just said) was the focus they put on one set of characters. None of this jumping around to 3/4 different stories. While I'v enjoyed that style in previous episodes, this episode worked a lot better for me. Also, liking the lack of the opening/closing monologues from Mohinder. Never liked them.