Work out - the drinking

thirtyfoot

SprostonGreen wrote:

Bryan Robson and Norman Whiteside used to get leathered nearly everyday in the 80's.

Whiteside retired when he was 25, a physical wreck.

empirix

thought he done in his cruciate? Back then it was an injury that was end of days for the majority of sports people unfortunate to be afflicted? And just to point out, many of the great footballers were infamous for their off field antics - the most bizarre(i think) was the great Socrates who smoked 60 - 80 fags a day!!

Just pointing the above out, i don't endorse it

MAYPOP

Just to add my €0.02 to this....you can still go out to the pub and have a good night without drinking! Not to mention change from €20, a clear head the next morning, option to drive therefore avoiding taxi/nitelinks etc........

Not drinking doesn't have to mean sitting at home watching Winning Streak on a Saturday evening!

Shrimp

Exactly maypop.. I dont drink, and I go out loads and it's never a problem ever. Just as good night as anyone else, in-fact probably better as some people can hardly walk at the end of a night.

Degsy

I like a few drinks of a weekend,i tried total abstinance for a while and i was miserable as hell.Now,i dont have a six pack admittedly but then i'm 36 and i'm unlikely to see my abs ever again so i dont mind that aspect of it too much.The trick with regard to drinking affecting your training is to know how much is going to **** you up for the next day.If you're up till 4 am every friday and saturday night,your sleep and recovery paterns are goig to suffer and your workouts will be decidedly lacklustre,assuming you bother going at all.Then there's dehydration,it kills your progress stone dead and greatly increases your chances of injury.

Dragan

Degsy wrote:

i dont have a six pack admittedly but then i'm 36 and i'm unlikely to see my abs ever again so i dont mind that aspect of it too much.

Randy Couture ( aged 43 )

justsomebloke

Degsy wrote:

I like a few drinks of a weekend,i tried total abstinance for a while and i was miserable as hell.Now,i dont have a six pack admittedly but then i'm 36

ye it is just the drink that is making you not have a six pack;)

seriously as with everything else moderation and prioritising your goals are the key.

Degsy

jsb wrote:

ye it is just the drink that is making you not have a six pack;)

seriously as with everything else moderation and prioritising your goals are the key.

That and my allergy to cardio..:D

Working on it!!

bugs90

Beelzebub wrote:

Alcohol is a poison.
Every time you drink you are damaging your body.
If you care about your health you won't drink alcohol whether you train or not.

I know some people take fitness/health more seriously than others but this is just preaching!!
There are a lot worse things you could be doing than going for a few pints are the weekend...

I_and_I

gary the great wrote:

Is the drink just going to destroy all my hard work?

YES

rubadub

I_and_I wrote:

YES

hmmm... he said all his work, by reading some of the posts here you would think if he has a few pints a week he may as well not do any training at all, since it will have absolutely no effect at all. Sure it might affect it but if he insists on drinking surely he is better off training too, than not.

If the OP had come on saying he has some disorder in which he must drink 5 pints per day I think many posts would have been different, and got responses more to the point he wanted. He already said he didnt want a lecture on his drinking

It is having a counter effect, I suspect he is not a profesional athelete, and like a huge amount of people he trains simply to stay reasonably fit and at normal weight.

Yes the drink might lower the testesterone, but the training has increased it, so it is could be at the same level as if he didnt drink at all. i.e. if he didnt train at all I would imagine it would be at an even lower level.

I have seen this said about creatine too, that alcohol reduces its effects so there is no point taking it while drinking. But again I would imagine if you did take it you would be better off than not taking it at all.

Small amounts of alcohol per day are said to be good for health, another aspect commonly overlooked is the stress relief effect of a few pints, probably since it is pretty impossible to measure.

I_and_I

Actually the fact is he might be better off not working out at all before drinking, when you work out you break down the muscle tissue and it needs to repair itself in the following days, if you drink large amounts you dehydrate your muscles which prevent them from repairing properly which will leave you worse off than when you started.

rubadub

I_and_I wrote:

Actually the fact is he might be better off not working out at all before drinking, when you work out you break down the muscle tissue and it needs to repair itself in the following days, if you drink large amounts you dehydrate your muscles which prevent them from repairing properly which will leave you worse off than when you started.

Well that is interesting and more to the point of what the OP was asking, rather than just answers like "stop drinking".

davyjose

I_and_I wrote:

Actually the fact is he might be better off not working out at all before drinking, when you work out you break down the muscle tissue and it needs to repair itself in the following days, if you drink large amounts you dehydrate your muscles which prevent them from repairing properly which will leave you worse off than when you started.

I find it hard to believe that everyone in the world with decent muscle mass and low enough Bodyfat with a good level of fitness doesn't have a few pints now and again. Actually I know this to be ABSOLUTELY not true. Of course these people might be able to build more muscle/lose more bodyfat/get fitter if they didn't drink, but for many it's not worth the trade. So it's about getting the balance right - having a social life (and unfortunately that's not always easy to do without having a few sups) and maintaining a healthy fit body to a reasonable level.

I_and_I

davyjose wrote:

I find it hard to believe that everyone in the world with decent muscle mass and low enough Bodyfat with a good level of fitness doesn't have a few pints now and again. Actually I know this to be ABSOLUTELY not true. Of course these people might be able to build more muscle/lose more bodyfat/get fitter if they didn't drink, but for many it's not worth the trade. So it's about getting the balance right - having a social life (and unfortunately that's not always easy to do without having a few sups) and maintaining a healthy fit body to a reasonable level.

Thats true but the OP asked would there be any point in working out the same night you go out drinking, and the answer is no. I don't abstain from alcohol all together I like a few pints every three weeks or so. I try to leave it about two days after any workout, which upsets my routine hence the three week gap.:)

rediguana

I agree with "Rubadub". To listen to some of the rest of you, I think additional sanctimoniousness, not testosterone, is the primary product of your workouts.

mloc

Each to thier own I guess, I do know a few guys off hand who are sub 10% body fat and lift heavy (> 130kg bench for starters) who drink, like any one else. Maybe not as often, but they do drink and often quite a lot.

justsomebloke

rediguana wrote:

I agree with "Rubadub". To listen to some of the rest of you, I think additional sanctimoniousness, not testosterone, is the primary product of your workouts.

LOL, funny cause it's true

Dragan

Well maybe i'm a freak then and can enjoy a workout and a few beers in the same day and get nothing but stronger!!!!

Guys, having things down 90% of the time is the important thing.

slicus ricus

I cant believe some of the stuff being said here! Theres no need for anyone to be giving up drink - while training is an important element of my life, there are other important elements as well. One of the more important is the social element - i like to go out with mates, have a few drinks with them and have a good night and see nothing wrong with that. I also like to have a kebab after the club closes up, and again see nothing wrong with that. I train hard in the gym 4 times a week, keep a strict diet, and work hard professionally as well, and apparently i shouldn't have a few drinks at the weekend. You cannot be serious?

One night out a week where you let your hair down and indulge is no harm, particularly when you're doing the right things the rest of the time.

Dragan wrote:

Guys, having things down 90% of the time is the important thing.

Spot on, Dragan!

thirtyfoot

"Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose, it's how drunk you get."

Homer Simpson

davyjose

Sorry to trawl this up again, but if you take a look about 5 questions down, you'll see how a professional athlete (one of the best in his field) likes to unwind after a game.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/english/6344409.stm

CerebralCortex

King of Kings wrote:

yes there is.

Exactly its a great drug

justsomebloke

CerebralCortex wrote:

Exactly its a great drug

hell most of Ireland's males would still be vigins if it wasn't for drink

CerebralCortex

jsb wrote:

hell most of Ireland's males would still be vigins if it wasn't for drink

Are you serious?

Aedh Baclamh

"I train hard in the gym 4 times a week, keep a strict diet, and work hard professionally as well, and apparently i shouldn't have a few drinks at the weekend".

I don't think anyone said that. What was said though was that if you want to perform at 100% then you've got to keep an eye on habits like this. If you're happy with how you're doing then that's great. Personally, the beauty of the GAA is that the majority of them drink which helps you in beating your opponents. Games are typically on a Sunday morning and the discipline at that level is awful.