i was told to put this here, it is a life theory

Emoocrap

OK so here is the latest theory on life. i am finally going to take the time to write it down.


Ok to start, imagine a jar, this jar has EVERYTHING inside it, everything, infinity. so whats on the outside? nothing because everything is on the inside. Nothing is equal to 0, it IS 0. nothing = 0. Everything is infinity. everything= infinity. So if you have nothing on the outside and everything on the inside, you have a positive and negative relationship. Negative is 0. Positive is Infinity. Soo 0 is equal and opposite to infinity. grasp that?

Ok. so now, we can start with it.

You can't make something from 1, you have to have at least 2. Think about it, you can't take 1 brick and make a wall, you have to have at least 2, then it is a wall, 1 is just a brick. So you can't just have "God" or a "Creator" there had to be something before it, in fact there had to be two things before it, because you can't make something from 1, you have to have 2, and before 1 is 0, nothing. And you can't JUST have something to begin with, else what was before it? 0 is before 1, so in the beginning there had to be NOTHING, or 0.

In the beginning, before anything. Before "god", before the "cosmos", before EVERYTHING, there was nothing, there was 0. All of a sudden, there was a blip. This blip was when nothing realized it was 0, (which means that there has to be everything because 0 and infinity are the same but opposite, and + can't exist without -) and that Infinity was on the inside of that jar (the jar is not actually there it is a metaphor for the space between everything and nothing). There is now a - and + relationship between the outside and the inside. There is now something, this something is a relationship a positive/negative relationship, that something started from 0 just a blip, and since 0 is equally and oppositely related to Infinity, There was EVERYTHING, a completely random blip from 0. There was once Nothing, now there is Positive and Negative relationship,there is everything and nothing. At that exact moment that 0 realized that it was on the outside and that infinity was inside, Time began.

Time began the very moment the FIRST relationship ever started. The relationship of 0 and infinity. So now we have these 3 things, we have time, positive, and negative. So now we need to talk about TIME.

Time. So now we have -,+,and time. Imagine a magnetic flux field where each flux field has a positive side and a negative side on opposite sides of the magnetic flux field. So you have (- ||+ ) where || is the magnet. Now imagine a point that is equal and opposite on the flux field. So you have (on the positive side) our current time,and on the - side you have our equally anti or opposite time where everything is opposite and time is reversed. So now we have this demonstration of the positive/negative relationship and time, and how it all works.

Now we need to talk about the physical world that was created since everything and nothing are now co-existing.

First we need to say that to be tangible (solid, and touchable) the object must have THREE dimensions. height, width, and depth. Now there are four states of being for every one of those dimensions. (+,+) (+,-) (-,+) and (-,-). So we have 16 possibilities for all of the dimensions to be tangible. We have 4 for height, 4 for width, 4 for depth, and 4 for time. Remember, you can NOT have 2 objects in the same point, on the same time dimension. So there can not be two of you on the same time dimension, there can be a positive you and a negative you but not two positives and or two negatives. If something only has say 3 of the height width or depth possibilities but all of the rest, then what happens? well that would be a ghost wouldnt it? you would see it, but you could not touch it, you could not manipulate it unless you had something that is solid according to its dimensions. OH!!! WOW that would explain GHOSTS!wow i am smart lol. ok so now we have that.

So because Everything that could happen has happened, there are an infinite number of time dimensions with you in it, but you may be different , you may be a lamp a car or a molecule of some gas, you may have made a simple different decision that made a huge change, or it may have made a tiny change, we dont know, but in this one my friend, you are a human being, you share the same traits as i do, you have all the same dimensional properties as me and you can not grasp all of the other forms of you on other time dimensions. BUT everytime that you think about what could have happened if you had done something different you have grasped the path of one of your other time planes. SO why cant we see all of them then? well sit down and try to think about 0, try to imagine 0, see it feel it be it. Very likely, you cant. i say for you to think about 0 because if you try to grasp the concept of infinity, and really try, you will go mad ,think about it shortly, if you imagine infinity toothpicks, you would see a ton of little tips of toothpicks, so many that you would then see a ,what would appear to be, solid, then you would begin to see that solid as one very large toothpick, now you have to grasp infinity of those, you will keep seeing solids, and it will keep going and going and going, we as humans can not grasp infinity, we do not have the capability to harness that energy, though we can grasp 0 with lots of practise. So if you were to be aware of all your time dimensions, you would be aware of Infinity, and we cant do it. We as humans have engineered ourselves Not to be able to grasp 0 or infinity.

The reason to this is simple. If we became aware of our - self in this time dimension, we would seise to exist. what happens to -1 + 1? 0. we would just stop. dissapear, we would be no longer. So if we were able to do that, then there would no longer be a human race, we would all seise to exist. So when we do try to grasp infinity, we go mad, we try to absorb to much and we fry.

So what are we here to do then? What should you do in life? well. what would you rather? to seise? would you like to stop? or ENJOY life and continue living in denial of what is really out there? I see the story as the adventure, not the end. if there is no adventure, there is no end. make a good adventure, have a good story. I like good stories. so i make the best of every day that i can anyways.... i will continue to add and edit as i may, it is very hard to write it down as i see it but i have tried hard and will continue to improve.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. PLEASE ASK ME. i am only trying to help people live happily, if you dont believe this and are happy believing what you believe, so be it, in the end the only reason to live is to be happy and enjoy living. you cant live with nothing but good. there would no longer be good if you could, it would be a constant. and constants are boring. for there to bo a good, there must be a bad to compare it to.

challengemaster

i like cake

Emoocrap

me too we should go to a pub with some cake and get a beer

whiskeyman

I like Pie.... Pie guuuuuuuuuuuud.

challengemaster

beer? eugh **** off! i'm not some alcoholic!

and.. were you asking me on a date? ewwwwww

*starts shouting*

RAPE!
RAPE!
RAPE!

Emoocrap

i like tacos, tacooss gooooooooodddder than pye and caike

Emoocrap

hahaha. no but i will alert micheal jackson and tell him you were looking for him :P

challengemaster

hmm.. i wonder..

Dirk Gently

sorry about that emo,

just thought it would be fun to see what the nesters made of it all.

Stick to the other forum for some serious replies.

Emoocrap

no harm done... they are like my crackhead friends (literal crackheads) haha. so... its good, and see i can stick with em too. but not quite, that little rape comment rattled me a bit hahahah

Emoocrap

actually, i could imagine these pepople as the people who sit at their computers naked, holding a glass of wine, laughing histerically at their monitor... sad. but funny. and entertaining.

whiskeyman

Emoocrap wrote:

Nothing is equal to 0, it IS 0. nothing = 0......Negative is 0

My old maths teacher would slap you senseless for saying that.

Emoocrap

i know, i originally made this as a blog in myspace for my less computent friends... i am 15... so hahaha

challengemaster

ok after actually reading over that, even though its late, i can see one fault with it.

you say at the begining there was nothing, ie. 0 . however in the intro to this you state that infinity cannot exist without nothing, and vica versa, because your point about infinity being + and nothing being - states it. if you were to start of with nothing, then technically you would have a minus value in the begining.. which also means you have something does it not? even if it is minus.
(mabye im wrong about that)

so therefore if you have something at the start, and you state there was nothing at the beginning, then your theory is wrong? OR you could have infinity there already with nothing, leaving everything in balence.


note: i could and might possibly be talking out of my arse as this is my first time even to think about something like this.

edit: im 15 too

challengemaster

Emoocrap wrote:

no harm done... they are like my crackhead friends (literal crackheads) haha. so... its good, and see i can stick with em too. but not quite, that little rape comment rattled me a bit hahahah

well.. what can i say no harm intended

Scraggs

hehe emocrap

Emoocrap

haha you are correct, this is why i posted it, coz i dont see those mistakes, but what i meant to say is that in the beginning there was 0, it realized it was 0 and then when it did that, it created infinity because when it was 0 it was nothing, but then when it realized it was 0, it became something. then it became -, and since - cant exist withou +, it created everything.

Dirk Gently

Emoocrap wrote:

haha you are correct, this is why i posted it, coz i dont see those mistakes, but what i meant to say is that in the beginning there was 0, it realized it was 0 and then when it did that, it created infinity because when it was 0 it was nothing, but then when it realized it was 0, it became something. then it became -, and since - cant exist withou +, it created everything.

what is "it". is "it" something and if so how can "it" be nothing?


Happy new year Miss Scraggs

Scraggs

It is a non-human entity; an inanimate thing, with no or unknown sex or gender; the thing already referred to or easily identified.

oh and Cbags thats Ms. Scraggs to you:cool:


a Propa '07 to you and yours;)

challengemaster

Emoocrap wrote:

haha you are correct, this is why i posted it, coz i dont see those mistakes, but what i meant to say is that in the beginning there was 0, it realized it was 0 and then when it did that, it created infinity because when it was 0 it was nothing, but then when it realized it was 0, it became something. then it became -, and since - cant exist withou +, it created everything.

ok, but then, from that, there has to be something to trigger the realisation that nothing is 0. therefore there cant just be nothing at the start, there has to be something to trigger the reaction, get me?

same thing with what you said about the "blip" causing it, something had to cause the blip. but what? because if there was just nothing, then there was nothing to cause the blip and therefore nothing would ever be created in terms of your theory.

Emoocrap

0 is nothing, until it realizes it is nothing, then it becomes something, but before it is something, it has everything and yet nothing. then when it sees that it is nothing, it separates and makes, everything. because,nothing is actually + and - it, is neutral until it realizes it is 0. then it separates and becomes, everything, but still nothing. get it?

challengemaster

you still dont get my point though, something has to occur for it ot realise that it is nothing (0) and if there is just nothing at the beginning, then how can something happen if there is nothing to cause actions/reactions.

Emoocrap

i do get what you are saying. i am saying that 0 is neutral, it is - and + until it seperates (realizes that it is 0) and that it has everything and nothing in it, and they cancel making 0. you arent getting MY point, it is in essence, infinity, but it is equal and opposite, so it cancels out infinity until it becomes aware of its self, you are asking, how can it do that, i say because it is nothing and everything, it is also infinity, meaning it has an infinite chance of realizing it is nothing. see now?

Dirk Gently

Where did the sudden energy or consciousness come from which enabled nothing to become self aware and become something?

Emoocrap

you see, 0 has nothing. it is nothing. it has no rules to say what it can and cant do so it has no rules saying it cant all of a sudden, realize its self.

Dirk Gently

nothing cant be nothing if it's a dormant something or even a potential something. It is still potential energy and it can still be defined as having existed. by the way you keep calling nothing "it" therefore "it" is a point and does exist.













never thought I'd be having this discussion on one of my regular 4am visits to the nest.

Emoocrap

how can you say that?!?! nothing is nothing, it has no rules. nothing to say it cant do that, nothing to say it has to have the 2 things to make something. it doesnt have to. it is a sudden occurrence that has been manifested from nothing, nothing has no rules, therefore it can do what it wants. sounds dumb huh?

challengemaster

im actually gonna agree with clownbag here, it cant be nothing if it has the potential to be something

Emoocrap

really? so 0+1 is 1 but that means that 0 cant be 0? so your saying that you cant have nothing. which means you cant have anything. because before everything, was nothing. this means that 0 has potential, it is potential. it is neutral, means it can go either way, or even both. it at the moment though, is 0.

Dirk Gently

doesn't sound dumb, sounds like your trying to define something which can't be defined in as best a way as you can.

You've simplified the puzzle into terms we can comprehend by giving nothing the ability to have no rules by being both nothing and potentially something at the same time. Your trying to balance an equation by giving an unknown a value but its only an assumed value and not a true value. We don't know enough to work out nothings true value and only have our own limited brains to try make sense of an illogical problem by appling logic to it. :eek:

Emoocrap

is the universe infinite or finite?

Emoocrap

okay then, we will work on the other side, infinity. look at infinity. if infinity is everything, then it is 0 as well. but how can it be 0 if 0 is nothing? lol. now here is another way of putting it.

Qwhat is the other side of infinity?
A nothing, its infinite.

My commentary, would then be, Excuse me!? you said nothing. hahaha. you see? it is very very complex. but it is also so simple its funny. its everything. ahhahahahahahah. <---i didnt actually find it funny, i am not crazy :P i just put it in for effects but you could go crazy trying to think about it, because you are trying to grasp 0 and infinity, when if you think about them directly, they will destroy you. so you think about them indirectly, which makes it so hard to explain, because you cant tell anybody what it is directly, coz you cant explain it.

Dirk Gently

If you accept that there is certain shit that you will never be able to define it will save your sanity.

cant wait till all the tCN dwellers wake up in the morning with hangovers and read all this. I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of "it" whether it is something or not.

take it easy young man, I'm off to bed. have to be up early tomorrow (before midday) so I can get me favourite seat in the pub for the liverpool match.

Emoocrap

okay here, your going to drive me insane :P lol.

here is anther way to think about it.

in that supposed jar with infinity, was infinity. but how can it validate itself as everything, when there is nothing outside? all it has is an internal observation, so it has to create something, but then it is not everything because there is something else where nothing was.

now infinity has something to compare to. <---p.s. this cant be solved because if everything is nothing, than it cant be everything, there is no way to compare it. so it creates something where nothing was. therefore, it is nothing as well as it is everything. and if you switch that around, nothing is everything.

challengemaster

Emoocrap wrote:

really? so 0+1 is 1 but that means that 0 cant be 0? so your saying that you cant have nothing. which means you cant have anything. because before everything, was nothing. this means that 0 has potential, it is potential. it is neutral, means it can go either way, or even both. it at the moment though, is 0.

yes but see, that is adding 1 to 0. therefore you're adding something to nothing and getting something.(obviously) in your theory, there is no 1 to add to 0 at the start. yes you have proved that 0 has potential to go either way, but there has to be another influence on it. it cannot do it by itself

Dirk Gently

Emoocrap wrote:

outside? .

outside what?

Emoocrap

lol you GET IT NOW!!!!! yay. you see,you cant define it and that is why it is so hard to get other people to understand it. now imagine somebody my age, who is "average" intelligence trying to understand that hahahahaha. not gonna work lol, so i have to leave parts out. and leave it at a state where it would appear to be flawed, that flaw will be filled by ignorance and will appear to be correct, therefore they will be mindblown and simply follow my conclusion to continue on living life at its fullest.

Dirk Gently

what exactly have we achieved here except to conclude that the discussion was over before we even entered into a discussion on the origional post and we should just smoke a spliff now and chill out, in which case why discuss it at all, which of course is the point of the exercise. :eek:

Emoocrap

first off, my bad for saying zero, because zero is a form of vernacular attached to nothing, and you cant thing of something that symbolizes nothing to understand it, i mean to say absolute nothing. i will say, absolute nothing from now on.

please go read my two ways of explaining it to cbags. and see if that helps. i believe it was four or so replies back.

randylonghorn

Having made the mistake of reading this thread, I have now discovered how to bring on a hangover before I even stop drinking!

Thanks, guys!!!

(Where's Samantha Carter when you need her?!)

By the way, I seem to remember being told by a mathematician that 0 wasn't always = to nothing ... he explained, but I didn't understand it!

Emoocrap

mr cbag, you have figured it out. the original point of my theory was to create something that is not rejectable. you cant reject it, you can only accept that you can not define it. which is attaching a new meaning to life. it is what it is, and we should not spend our time trying to find an answer. the answer is that it cant be defined so you just have to mope along and deal with it. i started working on this all, because i had serious problems. i did not see a reason for me in this world, it seems preposterous that i was put here on earth to go to school and get a job to pay bills so i can feed my family so i can have kids that then can do the same thing. it is un-eventful, it is a waste of time. (i thoughT) so i started, like many, to quest to find my meaning of life. and i found it. you can not deny that it has been found. though the answer is not likely the desired answer to many, it is an answer. and it is not rejectable, because it cant be defined. i used this to essentially trick myself into loving life. though i see it as a trick, it is not a trick, it is real. but i have to see it as a trick, or else i have to define it. and i cant. so.... there it is. I AM MEARLY A CHILD WHO HAD NO REASON TO LIVE AND WANTED TO KNOW WHY THE HUMAN RACE, AS WELL AS EVERYTHING ELSE WAS CREATED. BUT I SUCCEDED. I WON. ty very much. and you just helped me prove it C= ty.


this whole topic is of no use to you, because you dont have the problem of not doing anything until you find your reason to life, but there are many kids who are like i was, and this will work on them, but they likely will not see its "trick properties.

Dirk Gently

I pretty much got what you were saying from the OP just thought you might have being trying to define it and was intrigued as to how you would. By the way your miraculous cure for depression will only work if the individual involved wants it to work and feels sufficiently satisfied at their new found enlightenment. I wouldn't hold your breath. A lot of people will just say meh and it will depress them even more. Not trying to depress you or anything.

Good stuff if your theory worked for you though. If you relapse just try getting your self a good girl, they're just as good a cure as understanding that you can't define infinity. (they could also trigger said relapse too though )

No I'm going to bed or else I'm going to sleep through the match tomorrow(today) and kick off waits for no one, not even infinity.

Matt Holck

what if the universe is finite?

why couldn't it be?

does time exist before mt perception of it

Emoocrap

vat do you mean mt perception?

Emoocrap

hope your match goes well c bag but, my theory was generated for me, and then for those in my condition, i will not relapse, because i mearly needed an answer to why we are here, i had no motivation to do anything other than what i enjoyed doing, i have answered it with pure logic. (you cant have good without bad) and then i have found my ultimate answer. it will NOT fail me because it IS the answer. undeniably. and now here is this new guy.... i get to do alllll this again LOL good luck to me eh? at least i have my genius to keep me entertained. (remember i am mearly 15 years old, though my b day is on jan 3...so technically i am 16 lol) and i know all about the good girl things, and it did not help. though good sex (i mean good sex) as in (g spot good for girls)See! my genius is throughout many areas! including sex)) but, it doesn't last throughout the day, or else you wouldnt need to do it again hahaha. thats what drugs are for though. hahaha i am going to rail my thizzle (ecstacy) and pop some caps (mushrooms) smoke a bleezle (joint) and drink myself to sleep now .... jp (just playing) i dont do that ne more.

Emoocrap

well supposing, that the universe was finite, that would mean that there is an edge (an end) and there would be something else on the other side?? and that one would be finite, so it would have an edge, so if there is a finite number of these universes, then there is another edge, so whats on the other side of that??? bahaha.

Matt Holck

the edge wraps to the otherside of the container?

I'm finite in space, time and life span

why should the universe be infinate?

the concept is like a security blanket
whose thread bear touch assures us that there is always more
when there may be a limit


ofcourse if that limit is beyound our perception,
the point is relativy infinite

Emoocrap

where are you getting a container from? The theory? because, the jar is a metaphor for the space between nothing and everything, though there really is no space...and i do not understand what you are trying to say. please take the time to write it down meaningfully, so there are no misconceptions.

Emoocrap

so if the universe its a mobius, therefore has no beginning and no end, then where are its limits?

Emoocrap

im sorry if i seem dull dumb or stupid right now, lol i have done alot of thinking, and i am only 15 so, i need to party anyways, its the new year, so i will talk more on this subject perhaps, tomorrow. when we may be entertained by a full audience.

Dirk Gently

It's true, I have comsumed several pints and thanks to young emo kid here I haven't had much sleep but I'd just like to say that peter crouch is a legend.





Get in there ye big lanky legend!
also much bulmers on an empty stomach and no sleep ftw!