Bebo bannage

kaimera

So was this passed and when does it come into effect?

Afaik, not completely but from 9am-6pm in college.

Let my people spaek.

chubba1984

Was in UL last year and that Bebo was a plague to be honest. Up in NUIG now, they've it banned from 9 to 7:30, seems to work ok, plenty of open proxies to get around tho.

Funkstard

Will it be banned on my laptop too or is it just the library computers?

It should be banned for computers in the library, but if the ban carries over onto my laptop that's a bit unfair.

kippy

Will it be banned on my laptop too or is it just the library computers?

It should be banned for computers in the library, but if the ban carries over onto my laptop that's a bit unfair.

I am assuming if you connect through UL networking hardware it will be banned on your laptop (since it is at the network or proxy side that the site will be blocked).

440Hz

Yeah if you use your lappie in college you wont be able to access it. Not unless you know what you are doing of course.. and we cannot condone that behaviour. Sites are blocked for a reason you know... so before anyone starts a 'hey IT heads how do I get around the block' thread... dont bother.. it WILL be deleted.

(ooohhhhh look at me being all mod-like)

ergonomics

I can understand the call for it but I think they should work it so that if you're in a student village you can still access Bebo. If you're going on it from your home (even if your home is on campus) you're not keeping anyone else from their work so why should you be punished, as it were?

kippy

I can understand the call for it but I think they should work it so that if you're in a student village you can still access Bebo. If you're going on it from your home (even if your home is on campus) you're not keeping anyone else from their work so why should you be punished, as it were?

I assume network traffic would come into it in some way.
Without actually knowing the infrastructure layout itss pretty hard to give a definitive answer to your query.
Kippy

kaimera

It won't be banned in student villages.

Just the college.

chubba1984

In NUIG you can access bebo on laptops over the wireless network, not on the plug-in wall connection yoke whatever tis called.

kaimera

Ethernet port/LAN port

Tar.Aldarion

chubba1984 wrote:

In NUIG you can access bebo on laptops over the wireless network, not on the plug-in wall connection yoke whatever tis called.

Just use a proxy site.

rmacm

ergonomics wrote:

I can understand the call for it but I think they should work it so that if you're in a student village you can still access Bebo. If you're going on it from your home (even if your home is on campus) you're not keeping anyone else from their work so why should you be punished, as it were?

It's pretty trivial to allow this they can block Bebo on the machines in college but allow it to pass through to the villages. I'd imagine it's up to ITD as to how they'll block it and wheather it'll be for the whole college including villages or just for ITD managed machines.

Cheers
Rory

440Hz

440Hz wrote:

so before anyone starts a 'hey IT heads how do I get around the block' thread... dont bother.. it WILL be deleted.

(ooohhhhh look at me being all mod-like)

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Just use a proxy site.

^^ Leave the exact instructions for that out eh! Enough there for someone to google a solution and piss ITD off. No issues with that, just dont go writing tutorials for it k

IrishMike

To be honest im shaggin delighted its banned
Site is a curse
A few years back it was online poker that everyone was addicted to
now its bebo and its an epidemic
/me pats itd on the back

Tar.Aldarion

It's still poker here! Hehe.

440Hz: Yeah, I just gave the bare essentials, ooh yeah!
I have to explain enough already for arts students... :P

ninty9er

IrishMike wrote:

To be honest im shaggin delighted its banned
Site is a curse
A few years back it was online poker that everyone was addicted to
now its bebo and its an epidemic
/me pats itd on the back

It's not for sure yet. While drunk lastnight I had a lightbulb moment...ITD technically don't have to do what CRC says, and Gordon Young has previously stated that he's not going to do it, so I wonder if it will ever be banned

5uspect

I'm really not in favour of banning websites but when I'm teaching in a computer lab where there is usually high demand for specialist software I've zero tolerance for bebo, if I see it on anyones screen they're out, other people want to work.

Luckily I'm finished my 5 semesters of teaching today so no more evil TAing. I think its fair to limit access to the internet in computer labs (AM061 used to have limited access in my day) while leaving the likes of the library open to abuse.

Dave

They're putting in swipe locks into AMO61 after christmas I think. Thank christ!

McSween

i've been out there with a view to going next year

there was a queue going out the door of the computer lab, good riddance that this site full of people who spell "like dis and dat and isnt it gr8" is banned

StephenInsane

99% of UL Bebo users are moronic nitwits. I'm guessing even the concept of a proxy site would give them a blinding headache.

bubblicious

I totally agree that Bebo should be banned in college - it's an absolute nightmare to access a computer anywhere in the college cos the majority of people on them are on Bebo.

but...

StephenInsane wrote:

99% of UL Bebo users are moronic nitwits. I'm guessing even the concept of a proxy site would give them a blinding headache.

Get over yourself. I, like many other people, use Bebo. What gives you the right to call us moronic nitwits??

StephenInsane

It is obvious to me that Bebo is a tool to cater for the adult-infant class that modern Irish society has bred. If you want to indulge in such bubble-gum for the brain, I will not criticise. I however will spend my time on my more worthy persuits!

Peteee

StephenInsane wrote:

It is obvious to me that Bebo is a tool to cater for the adult-infant class that modern Irish society has bred. If you want to indulge in such bubble-gum for the brain, I will not criticise. I however will spend my time on my more worthy persuits!

Careful you dont fall off your high horse! Seems to be an awfully long way up!

Claasman

Dave wrote:

They're putting in swipe locks into AMO61 after christmas I think. Thank christ!

Thank god for that, nothing worse that seeing others, espically business and Law students in here when engineering classes are trying to complete work...

Jumpy

StephenInsane wrote:

It is obvious to me that Bebo is a tool to cater for the adult-infant class that modern Irish society has bred. If you want to indulge in such bubble-gum for the brain, I will not criticise. I however will spend my time on my more worthy persuits!

Such as learning to spell perhaps?

ARGINITE

Bebo rotes the brain!

and here is my bebo page.....

ARGINITE

and it does it so quick that I can't spell rots or edit my post

440Hz

ARGINITE wrote:

and it does it so quick that I can't spell rots or edit my post

you need help. like seriously :P

(for anyone who is taking me seriously, he knows im joking)

missgwish

*whispers meekly* i like bebo............................*whimper*

ARGINITE

I come here for a quick taunt of the bebo people and next thing I know I have some power hungry mod breathing down my neck. It doesn't sound like a joke to me *runs off to the feedback forum to report that a mod in picking on me because im wearing shoes*. We are sorry for this interruption and normal programming will now return shortly!

440Hz

ARGINITE wrote:

I come here for a quick taunt of the bebo people and next thing I know I have some power hungry mod breathing down my neck. It doesn't sound like a joke to me *runs off to the feedback forum to report that a mod in picking on me because im wearing shoes*. We are sorry for this interruption and normal programming will now return shortly!

lmao

you looking for a ban?

well?


are ya?


PUNK

kaimera

ARGINITE wrote:

I come here for a quick taunt of the bebo people and next thing I know I have some power hungry mod breathing down my neck. It doesn't sound like a joke to me *runs off to the feedback forum to report that a mod in picking on me because im wearing shoes*. We are sorry for this interruption and normal programming will now return shortly!

Take it to Feedback tbh.

ARGINITE

440hz wrote:

Punk

That made me cry a little.
It was only this morning I relised that my text didnt get formated properly

kaimera wrote:

Take it to Feedback tbh.

Sorry.

*Grabs bin liner cuts out holes for hands and head, strips quickly and puts on. Runs to feedback quickly before kaimera or 440hz get mad*

440Hz

ARGINITE wrote:

Runs to feedback quickly before kaimera or 440hz get mad*

kaimera wont get mad... she is just like a cuddly teddy bear in reality*


* this may not be entirely accurate

ARGINITE

*I demand to be banned.






*This might not be entirly true

po0k

Bebo is an pain in the arse from the perspective of "number of comp suites/labs seats":"students needing computers for course-work because they can't get it done anywhere else for a variety of reasons".

Quite simply, if you're browsing bebo or any such ass-toffee site on a lab machine for more than 10minutes during college hours (9-6) - or indeed anytime during the lunchtime rush - you are a selfish, ignorant and inconsiderate child. Fock off back to noddy land.

I encourage those queueing for a machine to stand behind anyone browsing bebo until they're shamed into leaving. Or give them a clip round the ear.

If you, the student bebo user had to pay even just the cost of providing those machines, never mind the power, software licensing or infrastructure costs, you wouldn't consider wasting your time and money on such folly.

NUIG blanket blocked bebo for a time when a slew of complaints were received over suites full of monkeys stopping people doing coursework. This was soon adjusted to blocking it between 9am and 6pm Mon-Fri for suites access. Wireless was left open. It is a generous compromise.
Were I to have power over policy, the suite-access privileges of the students causing the problem would've been suspended for a fortnight at the minimum.

The majority of Irish students have a poor idea of how well they have it w.r.t. internet access policy compared to other institutions and most employers.

{edited for spelling correction}

kaimera

440Hz wrote:

kaimera wont get mad... she is just like a cuddly teddy bear in reality*


* this may not be entirely accurate

Lies clearly :rollleyes:

Just to throw it out there, neither myspace nor boards.ie for eg are banned. Surely if one is deemed a nuisance, they must fall into the same cat?

I realise that the numbers using both are less than bebo, but if it's because of computers being not available for those that 'need' it well..

I'm just glad I've got a small 4th year class with a lab to ourselves tbh. Tho I'm not sure if bebo was even banned in CSIS.

Last thing, have ITD banned it, or are they waiting on the appeal against the ban?

440Hz

Thanks for bringing that back on topic Syx... kids these days eh!!

StephenInsane

SyxPak wrote:

Bebo is an pain in the arse from the perspective of "number of comp suites/labs seats":"students needing computers for course-work because they can't get it done anywhere else for a variety of reasons".

Quite simply, if you're browsing bebo or any such ass-toffee site on a lab machine for more than 10minutes during college hours (9-6) - or indeed anytime during the lunchtime rush - you are a selfish, ignorant and inconsiderate child. Fock off back to noddy land.

I encourage those queueing for a machine to stand behind anyone browsing bebo until they're shamed into leaving. Or give them a clip round the ear.

If you, the student bebo user had to pay even just the cost of providing those machines, never mind the power, software licensing or infrastructure costs, you wouldn't consider wasting your time and money on such folly.

NUIG blanket blocked bebo for a time when a slew of complaints were received over suites full of monkeys stopping people doing coursework. This was soon adjusted to blocking it between 9am and 6pm Mon-Fri for suites access. Wireless was left open. It is a generous compromise.
Were I to have power over policy, the suite-access privileges of the students causing the problem would've been suspended for a fortnight at the minimum.

The majority of Irish students have a poor idea of how well they have it w.r.t. internet access policy compared to other institutions and most employers.

{edited for spelling correction}

Hear hear.

kaimera wrote:

Just to throw it out there, neither myspace nor boards.ie for eg are banned. Surely if one is deemed a nuisance, they must fall into the same cat?

I realise that the numbers using both are less than bebo, but if it's because of computers being not available for those that 'need' it well..

That is the biggest nonsense of a technicality that I've ever heard. We're looking to rid the campus of the nuisance of Bebo, without crippling the entire internet access. Your suggestion that to ban Bebo we also have to go through the painstaking effot of banning everything else which could be defined as an amusement site, is utterly absurd. Do you not realise how totally impractical it would be to go through the process of doing that?

MrDaveHimself

kaimera wrote:

Last thing, have ITD banned it, or are they waiting on the appeal against the ban?

Officially it was banned from the time the CRC voted it in.

However, it has not been blocked at all yet and I seriously doubt it will be.


It is true that Bebo can be viewed as a nuisence but there are alternatives out there ie. Myspace, Yahoo ................ Boards to an extent - Block one, can you really block them all.

Also, in CRC, reps were asked to refrain from appealing the ban until it is implemented - otherwise it is all that would be disscussed in the CRC.

In theory the banning of bebo - yes
In reality - no (whats the point)

ARGINITE

Thanks pak I was just succeding in getting this debate off topic

I agree with kaimera, if bebo should be banned then so should myspace, as for boards not enough people use it imo for it to cause any serious problems. So it should stay.

MrDaveHimself

SyxPak wrote:

Bebo is an pain in the arse from the perspective of students needing computers for course-work because they can't get it done anywhere else ".

Quite simply, if you're browsing bebo or any such ass-toffee site on a lab machine for more than 10minutes during college hours (9-6)

I encourage those queueing for a machine to stand behind anyone browsing bebo until they're shamed into leaving.

If you are in the library, if you have course work to do and someone is on a "lesurable website" you are intitled to that computer and you can ask one of the library workers to get it for you, or you could ask the peron using the computer.. i'm sure the majority of people would be sound about it.


"Leisurable website" - Mp3 websites, Bebo, Myspace, Yahoo, Chat sites, Game sites, the list is endless.....................

MrDaveHimself

ARGINITE wrote:

as for boards not enough people use it imo for it to cause any serious problems. So it should stay.

Will it stay that way if they keep blocking different websites.

dr.bollocko

It was ALWAYS a nightmare to get a PC anywhere in the college, before a bunch of 14 year olds made Bebo the brain-crippling mind-numbing social network that it is. As long as there have been PCs in UL there have been a bunch of spotty unwashed people misusing them somehow whilst other, more diligent students wanted to work on their projects, exams and what not.
That was true of the 4 years that I was there and will be true long afte Bebo is dead and gone and buried for ever.
Banning Bebo would be like telling a drunk that he can drink anything that he wants, except buckfast. The drunk doesnt care.

StephenInsane

dr.bollocko wrote:

It was ALWAYS a nightmare to get a PC anywhere in the college, before a bunch of 14 year olds made Bebo the brain-crippling mind-numbing social network that it is. As long as there have been PCs in UL there have been a bunch of spotty unwashed people misusing them somehow whilst other, more diligent students wanted to work on their projects, exams and what not.
That was true of the 4 years that I was there and will be true long afte Bebo is dead and gone and buried for ever.
Banning Bebo would be like telling a drunk that he can drink anything that he wants, except buckfast. The drunk doesnt care

You raise a sound point. Prehaps we should start a vigilante group, roaming the the venus/library dressed in dark clothes and face masks, who administer on-the-spot prolonged punishment beatings to those unwise enough to use just degenerate sites as bebo

Surely this would soon stop the students of UL spending time on such mindrot.

rmacm

StephenInsane wrote:

on-the-spot prolonged punishment beatings

on-the-spot prolonged punishment beatings FTW

On a more serious note Gordon Young has stated that he was unwilling to go down the route of blocking websites such as Bebo. If there are people using Bebo in the Library/Venus labs or any of the other clusters when there are others waiting to do project work etc. The people using Bebo should be asked to leave. Personally I haven't got a whole lot against the site (aside from it being brain rotting) but as soon as it starts affecting other peoples access to computers to do legitimate work then that's when my problem with it starts.

Granted I can't really complain as I've got my own assigned computer in a lab in CSIS so I don't have to worry about someone using it to look at Bebo.

Cheers
Rory

ninty9er

MrDaveHimself wrote:

Officially it was banned from the time the CRC voted it in.

However, it has not been blocked at all yet and I seriously doubt it will be.

Bebo was never banned, as it falls under the remit of ITD(a universtiy department) and not ULSU(an independent body).

MrDaveHimself wrote:

It is true that Bebo can be viewed as a nuisence but there are alternatives out there ie. Myspace, Yahoo ................ Boards to an extent - Block one, can you really block them all.

rotten.com......bored.com????

kaimera

StephenInsane wrote:

That is the biggest nonsense of a technicality that I've ever heard. We're looking to rid the campus of the nuisance of Bebo, without crippling the entire internet access. Your suggestion that to ban Bebo we also have to go through the painstaking effot of banning everything else which could be defined as an amusement site, is utterly absurd. Do you not realise how totally impractical it would be to go through the process of doing that?

And why is it a nuisance again?

Please do explain what exactly the difference between a person spending x hours on myspace/boards over bebo?

It's still taking away a computer from somebody wanting to do actual work.

Now if you'd taken a moment and not gotten in a huff at the mention of banning your beloved myspace, you'd have see that I didn't say they should be banned but was merely questioning what constitutes a nuisance.

Like as been stated, own lab etc so I'm not infected by bebo.

rmacm

ninty9er wrote:

rotten.com......bored.com????

rotten.com is a valubale educational resource I'll have you know

Otacon

rmacm wrote:

on-the-spot prolonged punishment beatings FTW

Cue Rory, in the library, on Bebo, just so he can get one of these promised beatings!

Back on topic, I use Bebo sometimes and I agree, it is brain-rotting, but I keep it to a relatively normal level, akin to drinking. However, there are 'binge-drinkers' out there who waste, not minutes, but hours on this thing!

Personally, though, I don't access Bebo in college anyway, but if I were to, and someone asked me to give up my PC so they can do some work, I would be up before they said please.

StephenInsane

I was in the library looking up some intellectual quantum physics journals online. And the blonde bimbo on the computer beside me spent an HOUR AND A HALF on bebo. Are you telling me that this simple minded creature would have spent that much time on any other amusement website? I felt like asking her if she knew that she was misusing valuable college resources, but I'm guessing all she knows is highlights and texting. Hopefully the poor thing's prolonged bebo exposure didn't cause any brain damage.