National Anthem being played at the end of a night

gar

What are peoples opinion of the National Anthem, Amhrán na bhFiann, being played at the end of the night in a pub or club?

My personal opinion is it is cheap and tacky move by the DJ to get a last hurra and takes away what the songs represents.

Thoughts?

Ruu_Old

It doesn't bother me, people still go around, do their own thing and get their last few pints anyway.

TheBlock

Do they still do that??? Jasus I thought that was only in school discos where the DJ was anything but a pro.

Agamemnon

Should only be done on special occasions, like when Ireland have done well in sport that day. It probably should never be played in a lap-dancing club though.
I'll admit to disrespecting it sometimes when I'm really drunk by making up my own words to it.

This town, is coming like a ghost town. Doooo doo doo doo doo doo...

admiralofthefleet

i hit yes before thinking about it, i dont think they should play it,the people in bars dont care about the national anthem, and its only really played in working class areas where people say they hate the brits while wearing their premiership
jerseys and slagging off anything Irish like the eircom league and Irish music etc..

connundrum

gar wrote:

My personal opinion is it is cheap and tacky move by the DJ to get a last hurra and takes away what the songs represents.

Yes, a mad conspiracy theory where DJ's feed their own egos by playing a national anthem (for one last huarrah), yes. :rolleyes:

The last place I gigged, the manager insisted that I played the anthem at the end of every night cos if I didn't then people would mill about insisting that the night hadn't ended. Seriously. And they would too, one night I forgot the Anthem CD and I just stopped playing music - and people just stayed on the dancefloor for another 20 mins +.

ateam

admiralgar wrote:

i hit yes before thinking about it, i dont think they should play it,the people in bars dont care about the national anthem, and its only really played in working class areas where people say they hate the brits while wearing their premiership
jerseys and slagging off anything Irish like the eircom league and Irish music etc..

A little harsh, but I see your point. I think the playing of the national anthem has a unifying effect at the end of a party such as a 21st and you also know that the party and the music has ended.

Binomate

They should ban it from pubs and clubs tbh.

gar

My point is that it is our national anthem and should be saved for national events. Im sure Mr. Collins & co will not be thinking "Johnny drank ten pints, danced his heart out, that deserves recognition, hope they play the anthem at the end"

User45701

i like it if pubs played the anthom as the last song every night

ScumLord

They used to play it in our local nightclub but they stopped ages ago. I miss it, it does feel like the night comes to an abrupt stop and somethings missing and the lack of the unifying national anthem has seen fighting go up approximately 58.2%.

Budd

if you are still hearing that in pubs clubs then you obviously don't go to the right ones.

Ruu_Old

Myth wrote:

This town, is coming like a ghost town. Doooo doo doo doo doo doo...

Ah the Spinmaster!

biko

It's a signal that the fun is over and it's time to go home, or an afterparty.
I don't mind, play away. It's not like I'm gonna stand there, hand over heart, and sing along.

admiralofthefleet

ateam wrote:

A little harsh, but I see your point. I think the playing of the national anthem has a unifying effect at the end of a party such as a 21st and you also know that the party and the music has ended.

i didnt mean what i said in a harsh way, im very patriotic and republican and i would like to see it played, but i meant no because i think its played in clubs/pubs in the wrong context

Mossy Monk

meh

doesnt bother me tbh

cxcully

I'm with you on this one Gar.I'm stuck up in Castlebar for 6 months and was amazed to find this rammed down your throat at the end of the night in most pubs/clubs-never happened at home in Ballinasloe or galway.Strange looks when you don't stand up.

stovelid

I think it gets played more in the country than in Dublin from what I have experienced.

The DJ we hired to play at my wedding played it without warning though which severely p*ssed me off.

I don't like it being played outside of sports or civil ceremonies and think playing it in a disco is lowest common denominator tiocfaidh ar lar crap.

That said, apart from making a point of not standing up: if people like hearing it, i'm cool with it.

Lorax

If I was a DJ I'd play God Save the Queen for a laugh..

BossArky

As a student I played with a bunch of older folks around the south east at weekends in a golden oldies covers band. We would always end off the night with the national anthem. All the people in these little dingy country pubs would stand up, straight as arrows, hands on heart. I used to play the tune in the way that Jimmy Hendrix plays the star spangled banner with the rest of the band backing me.. ahhaha... good times

phantom_lord

This is never do in any pub I've been in.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Yes, absolutely. And I think it should be done live by a seventy-year-old fella on a hammond organ.

Dave!

I've never heard it played in any club or pub I've been in... Is it a regular thing?

Anywho, no, I don't think it should be played. It's not something I feel strongly about, but it is quite tacky.

shane86

cxcully wrote:

I'm with you on this one Gar.I'm stuck up in Castlebar for 6 months and was amazed to find this rammed down your throat at the end of the night in most pubs/clubs-never happened at home in Ballinasloe or galway.Strange looks when you don't stand up.

Exactly, its nothing more than an excuse for drunk Cavan folks to live their fantasy of being in the IRA. Ive seen people threatened down there for not standing. Its only the country plays it afaik.

As if the boys in 1916 died so that a bunch of pissed gob****es in 2006 could pretend to be IRA men. Theyre the type who hate Protestants but dont see an irony that their favourite band is called the Wolfe Tones.

Marksie

shane86 wrote:

Exactly, its nothing more than an excuse for drunk Cavan folks to live their fantasy of being in the IRA. Ive seen people threatened down there for not standing. Its only the country plays it afaik.

As a brit , when i was down in Kerry with my mates who were locals, I would always stand.. simple mark of respect i guess.

Never occurred to me that there may be some p***ed up wannabee republican boyo waiting with a pool cue.

Feral Mutant

I really don't care. I have no problem with standing but I don't know the words. I just mumble , noone seems to notice.

monkeyfudge

agamemnon wrote:

It probably should never be played in a lap-dancing club though.

Yep... because when you stand up everyone would see that you have an erection.

I don't particularly like the anthem... I'd prefer it wasn't played anywhere let alone at the end of the night.

There are other songs that tend to finish off the night fairly well... New York, New York usually does the job nicely.

joebhoy1916

Lorax wrote:

If I was a DJ I'd play God Save the Queen for a laugh..

Im sure it would be a laugh to the boys in the pub.

I think they play it just as a way of saying that's it finish your drink and get the **** out.

Kinda funny though im sure most people in the pub hardly know it in irish never mind even what it means in english.

Although I dont see any harm in it were irish so why not

Marksie

monkeyfudge wrote:

Yep... because when you stand up everyone would see that you have an erection.
.

Something to hang the flag from then

DublinWriter

admiralgar wrote:

i hit yes before thinking about it, i dont think they should play it,the people in bars dont care about the national anthem, and its only really played in working class areas where people say they hate the brits while wearing their premiership jerseys and slagging off anything Irish like the eircom league and Irish music etc..

Quite so. I used to play in a lot of pub/wedding bands around the Nerthsiade in the 90's and we always had to play it. You are right, it is a very working-class thing. I've never seen it done in culchie-land though.

Usually the middle class establishments have piped-in Andrew Clayderman/Philip Glass music.

Kingsize

admiralgar wrote:

i hit yes before thinking about it, i dont think they should play it,the people in bars dont care about the national anthem, and its only really played in working class areas where people say they hate the brits while wearing their premiership
jerseys and slagging off anything Irish like the eircom league and Irish music etc..

Care to name these areas?
What do they play in upper class areas?
Irelands call? the makey-up national anthem.:D

(although i agree with you about the brit hating premiership supporting twats)
National anthem shouldnt be played in a pub at the end of the night.
from what ive seen of it theres always someone too pissed to give a sh-t & someone else offended by this!!(the cheek of people being drunk in a pub at the end of the night)

Thrill

Lorax wrote:

If I was a DJ I'd play God Save the Queen for a laugh..

I doubt you'd get one, maybe a few dodgy drunken stares and the chance of running into a few republican wannabes after closing time.

I stand when its played and though my mouth moves, no sound emerges as i don't know the words.

I should probably be ashamed of myself.

Red Alert

I think it's a very nice thing to do.

They often play it at the end of college balls and down the country in general. I remember one college ball myself and a girl temporairly stopped scoring and stood to attention for the anthem. We then resumed after the anthem, not before I noticed that she knew all the words. (She was from the country ftw).

pbsuxok1znja4r

Nationalism for teh lose. It's a crap sounding song, anyway.

Black Swan

A test to see if you can still stand up?

Kingsize

Lorax wrote:

If I was a DJ I'd play God Save the Queen for a laugh..

Actually the opening notes of our National anthem sound very like the opening notes of the German nationa anthem, you'd probably have some austere faces suddenly looking puzzled if you pulled That!

I really loved the way the national anthem was played when Michelle smith "won" all those medals at the Atlanta olympics, it was done in a really brash American College marching band Stylee!!

Several years ago i Heard a radio debate about whether we should get rid of the national anthem or not - one guy said he didn't like it because he found the lyrics offensive (i.e.the words FIANNA FAIL )his point was that It gave undue favour to a political party .He was takin the piss but he suggested By way of appeasement that we change the National anthem to the Theme tune from The Sunday Game!!

Have to say I'm down with that !

admiralofthefleet

DublinWriter wrote:

Quite so. I used to play in a lot of pub/wedding bands around the Nerthsiade in the 90's and we always had to play it. You are right, it is a very working-class thing. I've never seen it done in culchie-land though.

Usually the middle class establishments have piped-in Andrew Clayderman/Philip Glass music.

well if you think about it the southside of dublin has more working class areas than the northside, i hate the anti-northside bias that exists among my southern counterparts

to the other person who asked me to name the areas, well anywhere that plays it is working class, middle to upper class bars simply dont play it, because they are frequented by west brits

Owen

BossArky wrote:

As a student I played with a bunch of older folks around the south east at weekends in a golden oldies covers band. We would always end off the night with the national anthem. All the people in these little dingy country pubs would stand up, straight as arrows, hands on heart. I used to play the tune in the way that Jimmy Hendrix plays the star spangled banner with the rest of the band backing me.. ahhaha... good times

Ditto mate I still do it the odd night, but the rest of the band know I hate the concept of playing the Anthem. I think it's cheap, nasty, and to echo a previous poster, it's really only done in less fortunate areas where people think it's still cool to hate the Brits.

Piste

Feral Mutant wrote:

I really don't care. I have no problem with standing but I don't know the words. I just mumble , noone seems to notice.

Did you ever see the looks o the Americans' faces at the end of a CTYI disco when we'd all be singing Amhran na BhFiann? Priceless.

joebhoy1916

They should bring back God Save Ireland as the anthem...

Xavi6

Myth wrote:

This town, is coming like a ghost town. Doooo doo doo doo doo doo...

Ha ha the only anthem you could ever need.

wow sierra

I think it's cheap, nasty, and to echo a previous poster, it's really only done in less fortunate areas where people think it's still cool to hate the Brits.

And there was I thinking it was just the traditional Irish way of saying "Have yes no homes to go to?" Oh I forgot thats probably a bit working class too!!!!

You don't have to "hate the Brits" to sing your National Anthem. I always associate it with the beginning of Football matches and end of nights out. Generally good times. Just the way it is - doesn't mean I hate the Brits or disrespect the National Anthem.

admiralofthefleet

ned78 wrote:

Ditto mate I still do it the odd night, but the rest of the band know I hate the concept of playing the Anthem. I think it's cheap, nasty, and to echo a previous poster, it's really only done in less fortunate areas where people think it's still cool to hate the Brits.

have a bit of national pride ffs. its not cheap and its not nasty, its OUR national anthem. thats the problem with Ireland now, there is no sense of Irishness, no feeling of nationality, in the 80's we were Irish without a job, now we are all working without Irishness.
like i said before it would be nice to hear it all of the time but, sadly, the times we do hear it are when it is played in the wrong context, like at the end of the night in a working class pub, ' ....agus pacai abharainn na bfiann, focking brits....ira....ira....right im off home, see tomorrow for the chelsea game'

gar

Ireland is the only country I have heard the national anthem being played at the end of the night. The yanks don't even do it.

Its like national pride is being forced upon you. By hearing this at the end of the club you should be filled with the strength to take on the British empire and everthing associated with it. Then the following morning watch Football Focus, Soccer AM, go the pub follow 'your team', watch your favourite soap or other tan made program. Lets not forget to bad mouth the Eircom league, how expensive it is to live in Ireland, how crap the goverment are... but I am so full of pride when hear the the national anthem....

anyone starting to see any bit of irony here?

Kingsize

gar wrote:

By hearing this at the end of the club you should be filled with the strength to take on the British empire and everthing associated with it. Then the following morning watch Football Focus, Soccer AM, go the pub follow 'your team', watch your favourite soap or other tan made program. Lets not forget to bad mouth the Eircom league, how expensive it is to live in Ireland, how crap the goverment are... but I am so full of pride when hear the the national anthem....

you forgot to mention go to the chipper on the way home,start a fight with someone you dont know for no reason & throw your litter in the streets.

Terry

so the majority of you are ashamed of our national anthem because you fear people may think you hate the brits if it is played anywhere in your vicinity?
that's just sad.

Stephen

I like the anthem but I don't like to hear it played at the end of the night in pubs and the like. That just cheapens it. I haven't heard it played in a pub/club in years anyway.

panda100

Red Alert wrote:

I think it's a very nice thing to do.

They often play it at the end of college balls and down the country in general. I remember one college ball myself and a girl temporairly stopped scoring and stood to attention for the anthem. We then resumed after the anthem, not before I noticed that she knew all the words. (She was from the country ftw).

What a turn on...:)
They play it in coppers and flannerys all the time at the end of the night just after they play 'put em under pressure' (Not joking).They also still play it in 'whisper's' my local nighclub back home in Limerick. I HATE when they play it. Everyones pissed and slurring the words and to me it shows a huge disrespect for your country.

TwoShedsJackson

biko wrote:

It's a signal that the fun is over and it's time to go home, or an afterparty.
I don't mind, play away. It's not like I'm gonna stand there, hand over heart, and sing along.

Ahh isn't it great that our glorious National Anthem has been reduced to something used to clear dancefloors and tell people to piss off home because it's late and you've had enough drink for ****s sake??

A place that plays the Anthem at the end like this is a **** place. Stop going there. And as for Put 'em Under Pressure...

All anthems are ****e anyway, with the obvious exception of The Marseillaise and the old Soviet anthem.

Stephen

That Soviet anthem is awesome. I've no idea what they're singing but it just sounds powerful.