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UCLA Student gets tazered

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭iFight


    Seems a bit unnecessary, he did say hed leave


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    pvt. joker wrote:
    there's multiple blogs out there right now that say he was never walking towards the door.

    Oh, so you won't believe what you hear witnesses say on the news or other media, but you will believe what you read in a blog?LOL.
    pvt.joker wrote:
    This whole ****ing thing is laughable

    Theres nothing funny about it. In any reports or interviews so far, the police have come across as trying to find any excuse they could to abuse their powers. One was "We didn't know if he was armed or not" or something along those lines, f*cking retards as far as I'm concerned.

    The police abused their powers and used absolutely excessive and unnecessary force. Then the retards turned around and told someone who asked for their badge numbers that they'd be tased next!LOL!And you can stand by and defend that behaviour? Jesus, you're either friends with a good few cops and feel some need to defend them, a cop yourself (again, having to defend them), or plain ignorant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭bean


    LAPD are notoriously heavy handed. Thats the general concenus here inthe States.

    If that happened in my college the student may have had student lab rights taken away or been expelled. If the police were called he may have been dragged out.

    But FFS tazered! Then telling them to stand up when all your muscles are spasming and you are in agony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭mloc


    just poor police training really. its too simple. 'we asked him he didnt move, so we shocked the fcker and dragged him out. '

    sure why didnt they just shoot him and then they wouldnt have to worry about lawsuits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭mang87


    datz pretty sukz, g


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    He was asked for his id. he didnt have it.
    He was then asked to leave. He refused.
    He was asked a few more times to leave, refusing each time.
    The police were called and they asked him to leave. He refused so he got a tazering.
    Wtf was his problem? He should have left when he was told to. He was given plenty of time to do so.
    And what was with the "heres your patriot act.." rubbish.
    Sounded like a drama queen tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    pvt. joker wrote:
    Let's clarify a few things:

    #1: the "student" did not have an ID card. It's policy that you need ID to be in the library after hours. Student workers called campus police (who have the same authority as the LAPD)

    #2: standard police tactics include first using verbal commands. If person does not respond, you up the level to pain compliance (taser, mace, pepper spray). This kid was asked to get up more than a few times, he refused and was tased.

    #3: Tasing stuns you momentarily. It does not paralyze you. There's videos on youtube of police officers getting tased (in order to use a taser you have to be tased yourself). It's a split second jolt to knock you down. It's not pleasant for the millisecond, but it does not last past that time.

    #4: the suspect was verbally and physically combative. The police tried to reason with him, he refused multiple times and was tased. I forwarded the video to 3 friends who are police officers and all three agreed that's the same thing that they would have done and it's what they're taught to do. Especially when dealing with a combative person.

    I completely agree. I doubt the LAPD have an easy time of it atm in America, and I doubt we can comment on the pressures they must be under. The guy was being confrontational and uncooperative, he was given plenty of opportunities to leave and was, breaking the law.

    If the guy had trespassed onto private property and was resisting removal by the police resulting in him being tasered we'd all be singing a different song, but because he's a student trespassing in a library we seem to have problems with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    He was a melodramatic moron looking to make a scene. He started screaming about the patriot act and abuse of power. Bloody drama queen.

    Although I don't understand why they kept tasering him instead of just dragging him out of there.

    "I said I'd leave!!!" Uh, then get up and go you ass. Read the article, the taser was set to a setting that essentially meant "Cause horrible pain and nothing else." He wasn't paralysed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,195 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    imho, those cops should not only be sacked, but charged with assault.

    im not saying i know exactly what happened, maybe the first taser was the right thing for the cops to do. but to demand him to stand up or be tasered....

    cops should be trained to know that a shock of 3-5 seconds can immobilize for up to 15 minutes, they should have known better. anyone that is given a weapon and authority should know exactly the effects of said weapon in all situations.

    as for threatening to taser others when asked for badge numbers...

    those cops should be locked up for a long time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Not really. Viewer discretion advised? eh, i doubt it. I was hoping to see this guy wriggle and squirm. Pretty dull video tbh.

    T.Sc.

    Think they meant "shocking" in the "he got shocked" sense of the word. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,227 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    I wonder does the fact his name is Mostafa Tabatabainejad and he doesn't look like your standard american have anything to do with this?

    Btw, he's suing them!
    http://dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=39009

    This lad, well has some view :)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz1sZoqPRwg&mode=related&search=


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Sparky-s wrote:
    I wonder does the fact his name is Mostafa Tabatabainejad and he doesn't look like your standard american have anything to do with this?

    Btw, he's suing them!
    http://dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=39009

    Thats great news, hopefully its a successful lawsuit.
    Sparky-s wrote:

    Whoa!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Sparky-s wrote:

    Wow, strong views.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Zillah wrote:

    Although I don't understand why they kept tasering him instead of just dragging him out of there.


    oddly enough i think its because, thanks to the good oul ACLU etc, people had a habit of suing cops for excessive force when they physically restrain/remove them so the cops came up with the tazer as a measurable way to deal with noncompliance.

    Maybe they should have tazered the p**k in the face, might have paralysed his mouth while leaving him the use of his legs :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭mloc


    can you imagine if that happened in UCD or another irish college? There would probably be riots.


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