Help me by Ranking the 'famous' diets

Mrs_Doyle

Ok, first of all, don't kill me!
I have been posting in this forum for a while now, and despite all my good intentions, i still haven't managed to get it right.

All in all I have dropped approx 6lbs, and kept them off, but I really was hoping to drop another 20lbs.

As I said in my fitness log, I started the total food replacement Lipotrim diet yesterday, and it is horrible.
I am actually surprised I have even lasted this long - I have been craving sausage sandwiches all day

So, I am going to give this one a shot, but I definitely think I need something that actually involves eating food.

Now I know a lot of you will say the only way to lose weight is to eat healthy foods, and exercise more, and obviously you are right.
BUT - right now, what I want is a quick result, of say, 7lbs - 10lbs, and I can use this loss as a spring board towards greater long term results.

Please, please, please don't lecture me!!!

I really want some honest opinions on all the big diets (GI, ATKINS, etc), have you been on one yourself, or know someone who was on them?

What worked best?

What should be avoided?

What are the pro's and con's?


Have you been on a diet that saw significant results early on, that perhaps isn't so famous? What did it involve?

I would sincerely appreciate your help with this,

Thanks a million!!

TerrorFirmer

This is a fitness forum and as such you aren't going to find many people offering their quick fix solutions to you, which by most accounts are only temporary anyway.

If you are genuinely serious about weight loss, and I know you said you don't want a lecture, then healthy eating and an exercise plan is necessary, although you can still loose weight easily even without exercise if you are inititally overweight, provided your diet is up to scratch. Stop trying to fool yourself, basically.

The GI diet isn't too bad and fairly well based but the Atkins in my opinion is an awful and unhealthy one.

And what a girl like you is doing on Lipotrim I don't know, but it's a sad reflection on the state of the effort some people are willing to put in, no personal offence to yourself.

Mrs_Doyle

HavoK wrote:

And what a girl like you is doing on Lipotrim I don't know, but it's a sad reflection on the state of the effort some people are willing to put in, no personal offence to yourself.

I don't expect to lose the entire 20lbs with a quick fix, and I don't expect to be able to lose it, and keep it off with a quick fix.

I need a push, a kick start, something positive to spur me on.

If I could just drop an initial 7-10lbs via a 'quick fix', and I hate even using that term, I believe I would stand a better chance of dropping the additional 10lbs via healthy eating and exercise!

brianthebard

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8126-1609634,00.html

Have you heard of GL? It's a more refined version of GI, taking into account portion size and the fact that some foods are better than others, even if they have a similiar GI rating.

I don't know if it works, or how good it is, but if you have decided that you want to try dieting to lose weighting then this seems a bit healthier than most crash diets.

But of course, the obvious thing to say here is lifestyle changes are needed here as well. But it is possible to loose weight with a diet and then adapt calorie intake to match what is burned. That's only have the battle though, and you won't be as healthy or fit as you could be if you don't combine diet with training. You knew that already but maybe it needs to be pushed home if you aren't dedicated to making changes to your levels of exertion and training the same way you are to your diet. Just my opinion.

connundrum

I'm doing this LIPO thing too..

Is there an eating plan whereby you can combine both LIPO with actual food intake? As in have a shake in the morning, fruit at lunch and then a GI dinner in the evenings?

The only reason I ask is cos I want to keep up with my gym visits, but really don't think I'll have the energy to do so on the food substitute plan I'm currently on (feeling fairly weak and a bit dizzy).

Mrs_Doyle

I have been researching Lipotrim for the last hour or so, (even though I should be working) but I have come to the conclusion that I probably should not have been put on the total food replacement programme.

Not to advertise another forum site, but I found this while researching:

http://community.vhi.ie/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/574107/m/39910341/p/26
<Fairy>
Posted 11 October 2006 12:42 PM
Hi all, I wanted to start on lipotrim, but my bmi is 26, so I think there is little point in me starting it, as I will only be on it for a week or two before my bmi is back to 25. I was going to do the maintenance programme, but I have two weekends in a row where it will be impossible for me to stick to it (going away both weekends) Do you think it'll be ok for me to do maintenance and break it for two weekends? How much can I expect to shed a week on maintenance programme? Thanks so much for all your help, and brilliant weight loss too. Well done everyone!

http://www.vhi.ie/experts/diet/diet_q496.jsp

Dear Nuala

Do you think lipotrim is a good idea? My BMI is 26, I need to loose 1 stone at least - nothing else has worked.



Nuala's Reply:

No I do not think lipotrim is a good idea. You are very lucky that you have just a little weight to lose. One stone loss is a very manageable goal and one that a Dietitian and fitness expert will help you shed over the summer months. Rest assured that once you are in the right ‘hands’ i.e. in the care of experts you will get over the stumbling block of not being able to lose weight.

Best of luck

.



I also have a BMI of 26, and so I am beginning to think that I should have had some other options pointed out to me, by my pharmacist.

Smellyirishman

Mrs_Doyle wrote:

I also have a BMI of 26, and so I am beginning to think that I should have had some other options pointed out to me, by my pharmacist.

As Dragan and others have pointed out before, your pharmacist has very little interest in your health (grain of salt) and more interest in your money, which they won't be getting by suggesting diet and exercise. You shouldn't be on lipotrim at your current size, I guess it is the "quick fix" that your looking for, but at what cost?

TBH, I am surprised that you didn't do more research into whether or not lipotrim was for you. I mean, you are not eating any solid food, does that not raise questions in your mind?

bilbo79

The best diet is 1 where you eat real food-not processed foods-breads pastas cakes-ready meals etc.. eat fresh food-fruit veg-lean meats-beans rice-if its man made dont eat it-you will be lean in no time.

rubadub

connundrum wrote:

I'm doing this LIPO thing too..

How much does this cost per day?

connundrum wrote:

The only reason I ask is cos I want to keep up with my gym visits, but really don't think I'll have the energy to do so on the food substitute plan I'm currently on (feeling fairly weak and a bit dizzy).

IIRC Lipotrim is a disturbing 425kcal per day for women and ~550kcal for men PER DAY. There was no mention of exercise on the "instructions" I saw. You would probably use up more calories than that per gym visit, so I would be very worried about fainting, let alone severly destroying your metabolism.

Going Demented

I tried that lipotrim but after three days i was actually crying at the thought of drinking the stuff. It was gross! I never tasted anything like it, absolutely bloody foul. I can almost taste it just thinking about it. However i have a friend who had amazing results on it.

I am doing herbalife at the moment. Been on it a month. Its two shakes (two scoops of shake stuff and 1 scoop of protein powder and a multivitamin) and a normal dinner. It's been working but i have seen a personal trainer and am now doing cardio and weights four times a week. I do not know if i will stay on herbalife for another month yet. The personal trainer wants to give me a diet sheet to follow so i will decide which to do next month by friday.

I thought you had to be more than 2 stone overweight to be eligible for lipotrim. Seriously don't think you should have been put on that diet considering your BMI.

Transform

All of the language you use to describe yourself and your thoughts on food are limiting

For example - "i need a kick start"

"on a diet"

"been doing some research"

"should not have been put on a total food replacement program"

The final one is the real clincher - what this says about you is that YOU have not faced up to the reality that YOU and YOU alone are the sloution to your overweight problem and this will only be resolved when you take responsibility for your actions.

looking outside yourself for solutions is not the answer and those of us that stay in fantastic shape think in a proactive way e.g. i do not see myself as being on a diet i just eat healthy so i have great energy levels and enjoy exercise.

The real question is what areas of your life are you proactive about and knowing that you can take action and are determined to finish what you started, just apply this to your weight loss situation.

"It is surprising what a man can do when he has to, and how little most men
will do when they don't have to". - Walter Linn

connundrum

rubadub wrote:

How much does this cost per day?


IIRC Lipotrim is a disturbing 425kcal per day for women and ~550kcal for men PER DAY. There was no mention of exercise on the "instructions" I saw. You would probably use up more calories than that per gym visit, so I would be very worried about fainting, let alone severly destroying your metabolism.

It was 85 quid for a week's supply.

I've stopped it since yesterday, feeling faint is not the way to go. What it did do though is wise me up to what way I was eating ie. I didn't realise that I was constantly snacking and eating late most evenings.

So what I've done is try and go for 3/4 meals a day (depending on gym times).

Porridge/Bran breakfast + a dose of water.
Chicken salad/roll + water/real orange juice.
White meat + veg dinner (red meat twice a week maybe).

This would have me not snacking at all, as I'd always drink water when feeling hungry. I'll see how it goes for now, any suggestions would be welcome though!

Mrs_Doyle

Maybe one day someone will be able to ask a question in this forum, and actually get an answer to the question that was asked, without being given a self righteous speech from someone who has never been in their situation.... Maybe one day!


This forum is like the PI forum... someone comes on, says that they realise they maybe have fcuked up, that they feel really bad, they have done something wrong... they beg people not to lecture them on their wrong doing, but instead, to help them, by offering advice on what they should do to rectify the situation....... what does pretty much everyone do who replies?

Well, they jump on their high horses and tell them how disgraceful they are for their original wrong doing, they let the OP know how they deserve to be unhappy, and that they are pretty much the scum of the earth... and as for advice...... well, they offer very little.

Mrs_Doyle wrote:

Please, please, please don't lecture me!!!

Mrs_Doyle wrote:

I really want some honest opinions on all the big diets (GI, ATKINS, etc), have you been on one yourself, or know someone who was on them?

What worked best?

What should be avoided?

What are the pro's and con's?


Have you been on a diet that saw significant results early on, that perhaps isn't so famous? What did it involve?

I would sincerely appreciate your help with this,

Thanks a million!!

brianthebard

I gave a proper answer-Check out the GL system. If you didn't want people to lecture you then you should have asked for diet/weight loss tips instead of trying to figure out which of the "chic" crash diets work the best...

Mrs_Doyle

brianthebard wrote:

I gave a proper answer-Check out the GL system. If you didn't want people to lecture you then you should have asked for diet/weight loss tips instead of trying to figure out which of the "chic" crash diets work the best...

Thanks for your advice, I did look up that diet plan, and it looks interesting.

I don't just want diet/weight loss tips.

I know what the best way to lose weight it, a good healthy diet and plenty of exercise.

I specifically wanted a diet that would enable to me to drop 7lb fast, and yes, I know that fad diet weight loss is generally not permanent, but I want to do it anyway.

I want the 'quick fix', I am aware of the pro's and con's. and I want to do it anyway, I honestly do not need, nor want, a lecture - I just want answers to the questions that I asked in the Original Post.

I am not having a go at you, you actually did answer my question's and for that I am very greatful.

I am a grown woman, capable of weighing up the odds and making my own decisions, and also dealing with the consequences of my actions.

connundrum

brianthebard wrote:

If you didn't want people to lecture you then you should have asked for diet/weight loss tips instead of trying to figure out which of the "chic" crash diets work the best...

If you didn't like the look of the thread - as was suggested in the title - then you should have stayed away. She did specifically ask that there be no lecturing.. can no one hold it in?

It was a simple question - give her a good diet which will help her lose weight quickly.

Now I know a lot of you will say the only way to lose weight is to eat healthy foods, and exercise more, and obviously you are right.
BUT - right now, what I want is a quick result, of say, 7lbs - 10lbs, and I can use this loss as a spring board towards greater long term results.

If such a (healthy) diet doesn't exist then say so, if something similar does exist then mention it. It's a fairly simple process, no?

b3t4

Hey there,

Have you tried Weight Watchers? I lost 5pounds the first week I joined and 2pounds the following week. So that'd be the 7pounds you're looking to loose. If ya don't loose the 5 pounds in the first week, as happens, you'd nearly be guaranteed to loose 2pounds and over 2weeks that's 4 pounds loss.

Also, Charlie Brooks before and after dvd is a great workout for the not so fit.

I managed to loose 19pounds with the above this year. Put on 5pounds in the last while and hoping to get that off by Christmas.

Best of luck,
A

poobum

wellif its a quickfix diet id say go for weight watchers...its has alot of basics right! but eat real food!and by that i mean avoid all the procesed ****e! white bread etc? never! brown is good! white=bad! bring everything down to the basics! and keep active!(i wont lecture you on weights/exercise etc...but u know they would help) end of day its to do with calories! weight watchers point system is based on cals i think...as far as i know anyway!
on n if you are doing weights,remember that at first you will put on muscle which weighs much more then fat, so if you are getting skinnier but weight is increasing or something dont worry about it!
and you said ur bmi is 26? well if doing exercise you should prob start getting a bodyfat test done! very few people are the exact sizes etc...for a bmi to be accurate! bmi says im obese when iv got definition in my stomach and a bf% of around 10-11! bmi isnt good if you exercise or are of irregular height or whatever! its quite useless in my opinion!very few people it will be usefull for! dont try to lose lbs, you should try to lose fat! totaly different thing! hope this dosent sound like a lecture :rolleyes:

Mrs_Doyle

poobum wrote:

hope this dosent sound like a lecture :rolleyes:

Ha, ha! It doesn't, its very good advice.

Years ago I tried the WW in way of supporting my friend. I actually didn't need to lose any weight at the time, but ended up going from 126lbs to 119lbs.
I am 5"5 and a medium build, so this was a bit too skinny for me, BUT, it obviously worked, and I don't ever remember feeling hungry.
I just remember treating the whole experience as a challenge. Extra exercise meant extra points which I used to use up on some goodies, ice cream, or something like that.

I might actually give the WW a try, as far as 'fads' go, its actually a reasonably healthy option.

poobum

Mrs_Doyle wrote:

Ha, ha! It doesn't, its very good advice.

Years ago I tried the WW in way of supporting my friend. I actually didn't need to lose any weight at the time, but ended up going from 126lbs to 119lbs.
I am 5"5 and a medium build, so this was a bit too skinny for me, BUT, it obviously worked, and I don't ever remember feeling hungry.
I just remember treating the whole experience as a challenge. Extra exercise meant extra points which I used to use up on some goodies, ice cream, or something like that.

I might actually give the WW a try, as far as 'fads' go, its actually a reasonably healthy option.

the rules arent as simple as they were once! extra exercise means extra points...but it gives you a maximum points per day and a max extra points a week! and it takes into account age and weight and height and all, i think...it seems deacent enough for a starter...but it will only progress that way for sometime!after a while you will need to get exercising or something to keep shedding the pounds! like someone stated, i also know a woman who went there and lost 5 lbs a week, next week she lost 3, next 3 weeks she lost one roughly per week, then it slowed down alot! and she had to start exercising to lose weight! and less you eat slower your metabolism gets, also spread out your food throughout the day! dont bulk it ll into 2 or 3 meals! cos then there are portions of the day where ur metabolism is doing nothing so its slows down to compensate! eat every 2and half hours to 3 hours! small portions all day! and cut out stuff like fizzydrinks if you can!(i done this for a month, drank none and when i tried to drink a coke after a month i felt like i was going to be sick, youll realise how much btr you are without!) keep your metbolism constantly going like...i doubt i worded that right...but i hope you get what i mean!

neuro-praxis

In the first week of virtually any diet you will lose 4-10lbs if followed to the letter. It is after that that it slows down. When I was young and stupid I did Atkins for a week and lost almost a stone. However I felt like crap, returned to normal eating habits and of course promptly regained it.

Unless you change your habits longterm you are simply going to regain it, like I suspect you have regained in the past. That's not a lecture, it's a fact.

In order to lose your 20lbs and keep them off you will have to change your mental attitude, because actually no quick fix exists. The weight comes back within weeks unless it is a sensible diet (which you don't want to hear about).

Mrs_Doyle

neuro-praxis wrote:

Unless you change your habits longterm you are simply going to regain it, like I suspect you have regained in the past. That's not a lecture, it's a fact.

Well, no, I have never regained, because I have never really dieted.

When I did the WW I didn't need to lose weight in the first place. I have dropped 6lbs and kept them off through a healthier lifestyle that I have adopted in recent months, but progress has been slow, and I want to speed it up somewhat.

Regaining, thankfully, is not something I have really battled with though.

Transform

Oh you poor thing Ms Doyle! If you picked up the comments that way thats YOUR interpretation and reflects more on your own self image.

I am sorry if you want people to sugar coat the facts for you then wait for all the others to keep replying.

Oh and how do you know i have not been in your situation before?

Mrs_Doyle

Transform wrote:

Oh you poor thing Ms Doyle! If you picked up the comments that way thats YOUR interpretation and reflects more on your own self image.

I am sorry if you want people to sugar coat the facts for you then wait for all the others to keep replying.

Oh and how do you know i have not been in your situation before?

I am not a mod, but I am pretty sure that off topic posting is not appreciated in this forum.

I asked a question, to which I would have appreciated an answer.

Allow me to demonstrate:

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Has anyone here been on one of these fad diets?

#1 YES

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How did you get on?

#1 NOT SO GOOD.

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Would you recommend the fad diet you experienced?

#1 NO, I DIDN'T GET THE RESULTS I HAD HOPED FOR

What I didn't want:

*
Has anyone here been on one of these fad diets?

#1 You are obviously not prepared to put in the effort required to obtain a permanent weight loss

*
How did you get on?

#1 You clearly have low self esteem, fad diets are for losers.

*
Would you recommend the fad diet you experienced?

#1 Some tough love is in order here, you need to stop over eating and hit the gym, forget fad diets, you will never lose any weight that way, stop being so lazy - don't ever ask another question about a fad diet, fad diets are evil, and you are incredibly stupid for even considering one as a possible solution... now please piss off you lazy fat cow, your kind is not welcome here

I do not need you, or anyone else to question my own self worth.

Nor do I need you question my self image.

I would have 'liked' it if, asumming you actually have experience with the diets mentioned in the Original Post, could detail your experience and give your verdict on whether it worked for you.

If you do not have anything constructive to add to this thread, why not just stay away from it?

To those who have offered their advice and experiences, thank you, I truly appreciate it - it is heartening to actually get genuine advice from those who have been where I am now.

Boru.

Okay, Boru.'s Quick capsule review....

Atkins -
Positive

1. Fast weight loss,
2. Get to enjoy "junk foods" like cakes and fatty meats

Negative

[*]Short term results.
[*]Bad side effects inculding headaches, naseau and constipation.
[*]Weight lost quickly regained.
[*]Impossible to maintain long term.
[*]Often focuses on the poor quality sources of protein, eg. those loaded with unhealhty saturated fat.
[*]May possibly contribute to high cholesterol and heart disease etc.
[*]Complete abuse of a good idea, eg. high protien, lower carb, medium fat.


G.I.
Positive

1. Great concept
2. Tasty foods
3. No real retrictions

A bit of both - slow even weight loss.

Negative

1. GI only relates to sugar absorbed on its own, hence when mixed with portein etc values not always relevant.

Weight Watchers

Positive

1. Easy to grasp concept.
2. Designed for beginners
3. Simple planning
4. Healthy enough foods
5. Support network

Negative

1. Very poor fast made ready meals
2. Pointless ad on sales
3. No indepth understanding of nutiriton
4. Money orientated
5. Over simplified

Balanced Healthy Eating according to the stickies posted here -

Positive

1. Educational
2. Nutritionally sound
3. Slow controlled weight loss
4. Primary fat loss
5. Muscle gain
6. Improved function of organs
7. Improved health and fitness
8. Balanced
9. Adjustable
10. Non limiting
11. Tasty

Negative

1. Requires personal responsability
2. Requires work, planning and commitment
3. Requires mental exercsie
4. Requires honesty and will power

Mrs_Doyle

Boru. wrote:

Okay, Boru.'s Quick capsule review....

Thank You!!!! I am just about to read over your tips a second time, you have given me some really brilliant advice here, and I sincerely appreciate it!!!

Hobbes

Currently started the Lipotrim today. Researched for a few months now.

Two guys in work (that made me look skinny) had used it to lower their weight. Here is what I know of it.

1. The first day then the first week is absolute hell when your on it. After that it gets better (as your body adjusts to the crap taste probably). Food cravings will be insane, headaches and if you don't drink enough water your looking at constipation. Bad breath is supposed to set in some cases on the second week and some hair thinning (which goes after the diet).

The suggestions I have been given if your hungry drink some water.

2. The food bars are total kack (I've yet to taste) according to the training video this is intentional to stop you eating more of them (dwarf bread )

3. This is not a diet to 'loose a little weight'. It is for people who are seriouly overweight. For example my BMI is 40%. Hard to believe but it was actually worse, proper eating brought it way down.

If your not at dangerous levels (obese) you would be better eating properly and doing exercise.

4. This is not a diet you can stay on forever and it certainly is not a replacement. Once your off it your expected to eat properly and do exercise. It is supposed to kill bad habits though (until you start tasting junk food again). It is also something you can't come off cold turkey once your well into it.

5. Its shakes (2 for men, 3 for women a day) and at least 2.2 liters of water a day. First week is mainly water removed from the body.

6. The results were very good in the two people I know who did it. One of them (the biggest) however had a lot of loose skin left over, especially around the stomach and arms. This doesn't go away any time soon and your expected to exercise to get rid of it.

So the lipotrim is really just for people who are already at dangerous levels. I certainly wouldn't recommend it as a casual diet.

.. Oh yea and I checked this out with a doctor beforehand. He said that while it would bring my weight down to a safe level at the end of the day eating healthy and exercise are the only real way to go.

g'em

Hobbes wrote:

.. Oh yea and I checked this out with a doctor beforehand. He said that while it would bring my weight down to a safe level at the end of the day eating healthy and exercise are the only real way to go.

Well I'm glad to hear that a medical professional reiterated this. And yet...

Hobbes wrote:

Food cravings will be insane, headaches and if you don't drink enough water your looking at constipation. Bad breath is supposed to set in some cases on the second week and some hair thinning

...this, to you, is preferable to eating fruit and veg, lean meats, nuts, wholegrains and exercising 3-4 times a week?

Never ceases to amaze me frankly.

You said proper eating brought you down to a BMI of 40%. Why stop eating properly at all?

justsomebloke

ok before this gets out of hand if you want to deabate the merits (or the hugh lack of) of lipo use the relevant open tread no point is this thread turning into a mockery over the lipo diet

http://thiscouldbeanysiteintheuniverse.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054978916

edit: actually that one was closed cause due to way that decended into mockery. so we might aswell go at it here

1) will it work
yes
2) will it work long term
probably not chances are that you will pile on the weight soon enough after coming off it
3) is it a healthy diet
everyone has a different view on this, but anyone with a decent brain will go no

Hobbes

g'em wrote:

You said proper eating brought you down to a BMI of 40%. Why stop eating properly at all?

As I said already my BMI is at a level where it is seriously dangerous to my health. 40% is just below the level of morbid obese. There are a whole range of wonderful things your body can get that getting back to normal would be too late.

As I said I haven't gone into this likely, I checked it out with my doctor because basically long story short I dodged a bullet (well all of them thankfully, but one in particular). Staying at this weight for even a few months increases the chance of what happened before reoccuring. And no my medical history is not up for discussion.

I can understand your point perfectly. I would in no way recommend this for casual dieting, and it certainly isn't something to come on/come off. It also isn't "not eating properly". Your body gets the right stuff in the right amount.

I don't plan to ever not eat properly, the plan is to get down to a safe weight fast and safe as possible and then never go back on this diet and just keep with the proper foods + exercise.

jsb is also right, when checking on this before most threads descend into trying to have a go at the person having the diet. So call me fatty if you want.

Dr4gul4

ok here's my 2 cents worth


Lipotrim

Positive

1. Very Fast weight loss, in the first 2 weeks you will see huge results.


Negative

1. It can have short term affects, however if you are carefull you will not put back on the weight
2. Bad side effects inculding headaches, naseau and constipation.( none of which i encountered)
3. Impossible to maintain long term.
4. Dizzyness, Ok i've added this 1 seperatly, mainly cos it's a killer, however i only experienced it when i stood up after i was sitting for more than 10 mins.
5. You cannot eat or drink any thing other than what is provided to you, i.e. the sachets of powered food, and about 8 liters of water a day.


Over all i found it great, i lost over a stone and a half an 3 weeks, and i've kept it off. i went to the gym during this time, and i pushed my self hard to stick with it.

All to often peps ere bad mouth Lipotrim as a bad idea,and altho it's not a "final solution" it is a great help.
Originally i lost 3 stone from going to the gym, and eating very healthy,however i wasnted a push to help me past a wall im my weight loss and this is why i turned to lipotrim.

Over all i'd say yes if u can hack it use it, however just be carefull while on it.


any more advice required let me know


p.s i still need to loose another half a stone and tone up, however im using the gym for that bit.


P.P.s altho this is off- topic based on ure bebo, and ure pics, u rly dont need to loose a whole lot of weight, more than any thing you prob just need to tone.

luck bf tho

rubadub

Originally Posted by rubadub
How much does this cost per day?

connundrum wrote:

It was 85 quid for a week's supply.

That is extremely expensive, over €12 per day for around 500kcal! I would not recommend the diet to anybody but if you insist on doing it it would be easy enough to knock up your own version. I saw the ingredients list and there is nothing magical in there. What is disturbing is the lack of info on exercise on lipotrim, if you go to the gym for 1 hour you will easily use up that miserable 500kcal you ate and so of course you will be liable to faint.

The GI is the only sensible one and is more a change in looking at food overall in life rather than a 6 week plan to starve yourself and mess up your metabolism.

Dieting is pretty simple, work out how many calories you currently eat, no estimating, weigh food and calculate it properly, every little snack. Then eat 500kcal less per day which adds up to 3500kcal per week which should be about 1lb of weight loss per week, a good steady reasonable amount which will not have you fainting etc.
If you know how many calories you are allowed you will naturally go towards lower calorie foods since you can eat more.

And of course exercise.

davyjose

Over the last few months I've put on a good bit of fat. I'm not proud of this, but what can ya do? Well ... fix it. I have a sedentary (I'm not sedentary, but ... it's easier to describe this way) BMR of 2900, i.e. sitting around all day and doing nothing will burn 2900 calories. Now what I am doing is eating five small meals a day, totalling not more than 1500 calories. I'm also aiming to burn 500 cals a day (1 lb a week). This is my "quick-fix"! It is not a lifestyle change, because it cannot be. After maybe two or three (in my dreams:D ) weeks I shall start to eat more heartily, and try to maintain muscle mass, while continuing with a calorific deficit (here's the lifestyle change - or lifestyle reversion). At this It will take me months to achieve my goal of weight-loss, whereby, I will begin to start trying to regain lean muscle weight, and keep the fat off. I'm not kidding myself here - its not gonna be easy and I'm not sure it's even the best course of action, but I DO understand where the OP is coming from - there is a sense of panic to drop weight. I'm already at this a few days (I know - beware the ides of Jan, but I'm hardly gonna start this before xmas, am I?), and it's getting easier - I'll keep you all posted anyway.
But I guess my point is, I'm trying to be realistic about what it takes to shape up, and I'm not sure that 90% of 'dieters' realise this!

Froot

First off stop this stupid arguement. No internet warriors need post.

Secondly, Transform has got a point in what he said about responsibility. I have been trying to lose weight all my life. It was only when I sat myself down and stopped looking at physical solutions (ie pills, programs etc etc etc) and started looking in my head trying to figure out how I got from 7lb's in 1985 to 330lbs in 2003.

Of course it is important to follow the right advice regarding a program and yes you should be allowed to ask questions without being made to feel (more) self conscious for doing so.

My advice to you as someone who has lost well over 100lbs the right way (ie through diet and exercise, the majority of which was diet I have to say) is that it is a good idea to sit down and write down why you think you are overweight and see what it is you want to do about it.

Regarding a diet, any diet which replaces food with supplements is very strenuous on every part of your being. I have done the Velocity diet for the 28 days and I know what it feels liek to look at a f*cking apple and get that insane hunger people get when they pass a cake shop, thats how bad it was.

HammerHeadGym

hey op,

try the zone diet. I did and i think it's fantastic. also you can eat lots of yummy food on it too

turbot

I've tried many, which would take too long to describe.

Dangerous Choice

There are some supplements that can accelerate fat loss quite a lot, though they are not so good for you. For example, ephedrine / caffiene / asprin stack is known to be very effective, albeit often with unwanted side effects.

The fastest account of weight loss I ever heard was a guy I knew in school who went raving every night for 7 days in a row, which basically meant intense dancing for 6 - 8+ hours a night. He took loads of E and Speed to keep going, and was 17 years old, and lost a stone in a week, and his face literally shrank.


A Smarter Choice...

What I've come to think is fantastic is Patrick Holfords Low GL Diet and advice in general, because as well as losing weight, I feel much better than normal, wherein many diets are unpleasant and leave someone feeling whacked out much of the time.

So I strong reccomend his Low GL Diet Book and his recipe book, and for me, in conjunction with the kinds of techniques Paul McKenna teaches, and some exercise, in 4 weeks leading up to xmas, I lost 6kg and most importantly, felt much better at the end of it.

You can read my fitness log in the logs section.

daveirl

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justsomebloke

turbot wrote:

The fastest account of weight loss I ever heard was a guy I knew in school who went raving every night for 7 days in a row, which basically meant intense dancing for 6 - 8+ hours a night. He took loads of E and Speed to keep going, and was 17 years old, and lost a stone in a week, and his face literally shrank.

If possible could you please expand on the guidlines for the "ravers guide to waste loss" and if possible can you please link to any sites about it as this could do wonders for my physique, as I planning on doing the pirate diet but I think this maybe slightly more benefical to me

rubadub

Yes I remember a few whippet E heads too, guys who were once athletes just wasting away, not only are they exercising they are not eating due to the appetite suppresant effects.

I always wondered if people notice people on E in gyms at all? I am not a member of a gym but one time saw a guy with an obvious "E gurn" lifting weights, thought they might do it for the stimulant effects, possibly able to lift more.

kriss

i am on the lipotrim diet a week now and i lost 8 pounds!!!!!!!!! go me!!! only another 3.5 stone to go but anyway...... i find it really easy. i work in a hotel, food all around me and i dont even think about it, what does happen tho is that i seem to gget kinda sick at the smell of a greasy fry.