Netopia Wireless Hub/ADSL Routers for €24.99 in PCWorld

Sponge Bob

they are in an eircom branded box but will work with any DSL provider (apart from magnet and smart) if you simply change the username and password in the expert>connection tab to whatever you want . they could work with smart if more settings were changed

its a netopia 2247 , good piece of kit for €24.99, if asked for a phone number give them an 01701xxxx number

the-ging

Hey Sponge_Bob
Which PC world did you see these in? Going to have a look later and see if I can pick one up.

Are they only ment to be be sold to people with Eircom BB?

Thanks
The_Ging

Sponge Bob

every PC World actually . I have bought 5 so far and have them working on Digiweb and BT to name but a few

All the settings are perfect bar the username and password which can be changed in a jiffy if you fire up a browser and hook it to http://192.168.1.254/ and then follow these simple instructions here (do not use the feckin CD that comes with it, junk it )

Xtravision or one of the electrical chains like Comet or DID may also have this eircom bb in a box package at that price, ring and check.

Redrocket

was wondering where the nearest pc world was,
ill check out my local xtra vision, cheers!
anyone know of cheap wireless usb dongles/pci cards?

walshki

Excuse my ignorance but will this work with Irish Broadband wireless? I'd like to think it doesn't matter because ultimately it comes in via a cat5 cable which can be connected into the router but I'd like to be sure. Anyway, great deal - I've been looking for one.

Sponge Bob

walshki wrote:

Excuse my ignorance but will this work with Irish Broadband wireless? I'd like to think it doesn't matter because ultimately it comes in via a cat5 cable which can be connected into the router but I'd like to be sure. Anyway, great deal - I've been looking for one.

It _could_ if you persuaded it that the hinternet was not out thru the ADSL port but on the hub (it is a 4 port hub and wireless hub)

You would have to disable the internet (the WAN interface) completely I would wager but maybe not . Have not tried that one but I will if they install a freebie for me for testing purposes .

you could always hard code an ip address like 192.168.100.1 on the ADSL interface to keep it quiet if you could not actually disable it.

By the same logic if it worked with IBB it would work with Metro too.

You will also need to make sure the DHCP server bit of the Netopia ( in the expert config somewhere) did not START assigning IP addresses with 192.168.1.1 as it does now , changing the start of the DHCP range from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.100 will stop that . Do this before it 'conflicts' with the IBB box whose Gateway I will wager is 192.168.1.1

By the same logic you should turn off the DHCP server on the IBB box to 192.168.1.99 so that no address can be assigned twice or other confuzzlement or else turn off the Netopia DHCP but then what happens to the wireless clients ??

HMMM

mcdonnst

sorry, so dose this work with digiweb metro?

Sponge Bob

learn to read first

dubmick

If this is the Netopia 2247NWG-VGx version,

It is $142 on the Netopia site so its quite a bargain

Might buy this and dump my rubbish zyxel bt modem.

Sponge Bob

actually its called a 2247NWG-EIR and has eircom embossed on top where netopia should be :P

Kipperhell

Sponge Bob wrote:

they are in an eircom branded box but will work with any DSL provider (apart from magnet and smart) if you simply change the username and password in the expert>connection tab to whatever you want . they could work with smart if more settings were changed

its a netopia 2247 , good piece of kit for €24.99, if asked for a phone number give them an 01701xxxx number

Are you saying this can't work with Smart for sure or not? I don't see why it wouldn't but I don't know enough to be certain

Sponge Bob

it will work with Smart but you will need to change more settings than username and password . It will not work with Magnet , at all I'd say.

Check these

http://support.smarttelecom.ie/bbsettings.htm

DSL Modem
Connection Protocol: PPPOE
Modulation Type: G.DMT(G992.1/3/5)
Multiplexing: LLC
VPI: 8
VCI: 35
Security Protocol: PAP
Username: Detailed in your welcome letter
Password: Detailed in your welcome letter
Wan IP: Automatically Assigned
Default Gateway: Automatically Assigned

and ask if anyone did it so far here

http://support.smarttelecom.ie/forums/

mcdonnst

can anyone else confirm this will work on metro.
Im not interested in stupid answers

Oracle

Interesting idea, and a nice little bargain if it works with other providers and there's no reason it shouldn't. It's on the PC World web site, (If ordering from this site there's a €15 delivery charge): http://www.pcworld.ie/productDetails.aspx?productRID=1565&image=Modems

Here's the product set up guide for Netopia Model 2247NWG-VGx, with manuals and firmware:http://www.netopia.com/support/hardware/2247w.html this model is ADSL2+. If the 2247NWG-EIR is just a rebadged version of this model then it should support Smart and Magnet.

Photos: http://www.netopia.com/equipment/images/npp/photos/2247front.gif and http://www.netopia.com/equipment/images/npp/photos/2247back.gif
Eircom set-up info (change as above): http://broadbandsupport.eircom.net/bbkblink.asp?case=8774

Redrocket

even if it does work on metro, if you dont understand the explanation above, how are you going to configure it to work on metro?

darkmaster2

I had to get a patch for the 3347 nwg to work on Smart.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054942802&referrerid=&highlight=smart+netopia

Not sure if the 2247 will work with that patch or not, you may end up with a brick.

Sponge Bob

mcdonnst wrote:

Im not interested in stupid answers

Stupid questions are your forté. Just pay someone who understands for the answers willya because you cannot even begin to understand what they mean .

kaizersoze

Damn it. I could do with 4 (at least) of these. No PC World near me though:(

Sponge Bob

Have you thought of asking Santa

Capt'n Midnight

http://www.netopia.com//equipment/products/2200_models.html

4 port switch with firewall

is the wan port only ADSL - is there any way it could be used as a lite ethernet firewall ?

Sponge Bob

4 pins only (3456) on the adsl port

Zapp Brannigan

So i can buy this and I can avail of wireless interweb right? But will I also still be able to plug my pc into it through the ethernet cable?

Redrocket

you can use this to replace your existing adsl modem,
this will give you 4 ports to use for ethernet, and wireless capailities

Zapp Brannigan

stevenk wrote:

you can use this to replace your existing adsl modem,
this will give you 4 ports to use for ethernet, and wireless capailities

Brilliant! I'll check it out tomorrow. Thanks for the help dude.

fl4pj4ck

why it doesnt work with magnet?

Zapp Brannigan

Just bought it there. Its working perfect for me.
Thank you OP.

dubmick

anyone know if this is available in the PC World in Airside?

Zapp Brannigan

dubmick wrote:

anyone know if this is available in the PC World in Airside?

It prolly is. You see, it's actually the Eircom BB package you're buying and the modem is free. Technically they're only supposed to sell it to potential Eircom customers, or at least that's what the sales dude told me.

Dingatron

dubmick wrote:

anyone know if this is available in the PC World in Airside?

Yep was down there this morning at 10:30. Picked one up for €25. Seems to be a good few there.:D Wasn't asked for a pnone number or anything. Thanks Sponge Bob nice bargain!

KNO3

Ok bought one of these yesterday in PC World Liffey valley after reading the thread here, took it home to set it up and started to browse Boards.ie to get the instructions on the link from Sponge bob, and then i discovered this thread in the broadband section

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055005102

So maybe this ain't such a good deal afterall, it was a silver one i got, i presume they are all the newer model in the starter packs, not sure what to do now, may have to bring it back, ive had broadband for about 3 years and was only buying the starter package for the wireless modem, anyway just posting to let others know of the potiential problem with the modem.

ps. not sure im linking the thread properly i may have to try and correct that in an edit.

Sponge Bob

last week of this offer I have been told (as I left with an armfull of them )

championc

Does anyone know if these badged versions have the IP-Sec featureset built into them?


Cormac

Oracle

championc wrote:

Does anyone know if these badged versions have the IP-Sec featureset built into them?


Cormac

Click here and scroll down: http://www.netopia.com/support/hardware/2247w.html

championc

I saw that and this is why I asked the question because it is an expensive optional upgrade on the 3347 and sometimes, while sometimes something will simply look rebadged, certain features will be ommitted in the end product. Lets face it, standard Eircom (or other ISP) users won't have any need for IP-Sec.

Therefore, anyone who has one of these, can they please tell me if IP-Sec is an option within the Security section of the router menu.


Cormac

Sponge Bob

run a soft vpn through it like cisco vpn client , works with any adsl modem or try a linksys wrt54g behind it with dd-wrt os on it and put the netopia in bridging mode

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT

and

http://www.geek-pages.com/articles/latest/openvpn_server_and_client_on_dd-wrt.html

but you have a very full featured adsl router simply doing bridging

championc

A soft VPN with the likes of the Cisco or Checkpoint VPN clients is OK if you just want to connect a laptop maybe. However, I want to be able to do a permanent router to router IP-Sec so that I caould run an IP Phone at home if I wanted.


Cormac

jimmycrackcorm

mcdonnst wrote:

can anyone else confirm this will work on metro.
Im not interested in stupid answers

It's been my experience that ADSL wireless routers do not operate the same as a wireless/non ADSL router. i.e. they wont route the internet through a lan connection. You may be able to get it working though provided...

a) your Metro box can be given a lan address as well as WAN (e.g. it has a dhcp service )

b) you add a routing instruction to pc's to route all non-local traffic via said ip-address.

Sponge Bob

championc wrote:

A soft VPN with the likes of the Cisco or Checkpoint VPN clients is OK if you just want to connect a laptop maybe. However, I want to be able to do a permanent router to router IP-Sec so that I caould run an IP Phone at home if I wanted.

Lots of variables and you can easily run an IP phone without a nailed up VPN , the biggest variable is your uplink speed and 128k is a bit anorexic for all of a nailed up vpn and voip outside that and the other other stuff too.

Have you tried exploring these variables in the VoIp forum maybe ?!?!?

championc

I respect the advise that you are giving me. However, I am not revealing my reasons completely for wanting to specifically use IP-Sec tunnels to make connections from router to router

Therefore, can someone please confirm:-

"Does the Eircom version of the Netopia 2247 have the IP-Sec functionality within its firmware" ???


Cormac

digiman

Does anyone know if this would work with the Clearwire 2MB package?

championc

So where did you guys get the routers? I have tried two Harvey Normans (Nutgrove and Airside) and both collared me to sign up for a 6 month contract. I tried PC World in Carrickmines but their boxes on the display are empty so that's obviously how they collar you.


Cormac

Capt'n Midnight

championc wrote:

So where did you guys get the routers? I have tried two Harvey Normans (Nutgrove and Airside) and both collared me to sign up for a 6 month contract. I tried PC World in Carrickmines but their boxes on the display are empty so that's obviously how they collar you.


Cormac

There were three yesterday in Liffey Valley in the bright orange boxes

sturgo

any of these left???

paconnors

as it sais in title

JohnCleary

Bargain, just went out and bought one in Sligo, they've loads of them there. Thank you OP!

Slurms wrote:

It prolly is. You see, it's actually the Eircom BB package you're buying and the modem is free. Technically they're only supposed to sell it to potential Eircom customers, or at least that's what the sales dude told me.

LOL, when I went to the counter to pay for it, the snotty sales assistant said "You have to ring eir....." ... Before she had a chance to say any more I just smiled and said "I'm only after it for the router" oops!

Tweaky

Was just in the new PC World in cork - They have plenty of them there.

JohnCleary

Guys,
I bought this with the intention of just using it as a wireless AP.. can this be done?

I have broadband with BT. The BT router (Single ethernet) is connected to a hub which connects to the other PC's

So, I connected the router to the hub, and set up the wireless. The wireless is fine, but I can't get a connection to the net... Anyone got any idea how i go about this?

Sponge Bob

Yah! Scads in galway today .

Its in PLACE of the BT router (xyzel) , box that

to get it working with BT go into the expert settings and on one screen is the pppoe settings (maybe its wan settings and pppoe selected on top)

there is a username and password in there like eircom@eircom.net

change the username and password to (in full not just left of the @) punter@btbb and the bt password

if you still have a problem add a BT dns delow username and password like 194.125.2.240 or 194.125.2.241 for luck

To confuse matters a tad the admin username and password for the netopia is the same as the initial eircom pppoe username and password but you will leave that alone (its on a different screen to the ppoe settings)

thats the only difference between eircom and bt settings, the username and password (and maybe dns needs a hand)

kaizersoze

JohnCleary wrote:

Guys,
I bought this with the intention of just using it as a wireless AP.. can this be done?

I have broadband with BT. The BT router (Single ethernet) is connected to a hub which connects to the other PC's

So, I connected the router to the hub, and set up the wireless. The wireless is fine, but I can't get a connection to the net... Anyone got any idea how i go about this?

Replace the BT Zyxel with the new Netopia and enter your BT user/pass into the Netopia settings. If you haven't enough ethernet ports on the Netopia for all your wired PC's, connect the hub to one of it's ports.

JohnCleary

Cheers guys, thought it was as simple as replacing the Netopia with the Zxydel and changing connection settings, but thought id check with the experts first

kaizersoze

Picked up 6 in PC World today. Absolute bargain.:)
Thanks Sponge.