NME Ireland

Beastieboy

NME have launched a dedicated Irish edition. What does everyone think?

sonic juice

First impression-Why what's the point?

Beastieboy

Ye, Humanzi on the cover of the first. The headline was that there the next big thing.......

fillmore jive

i'd say its better than hot press anyway......

sonic juice

Like that's hard.

mike65

It'll be dead in 6 months. Hot Press should have died 20 years ago.

Mike.

Kingsize

It has all the hallmarks of something that'll be dead in 6 months.
Cynical & unoriginal marketing ploy it's like the IRISH SUN!!(or should I say oirish Saaan!!)
I gave up reading the NME years ago round about the time when the editor was an 11 year old who'd done "rather well" in his a- levels.
Still if i had to take the Pepsi challenge it'd be better than HOT PRESS what a fookin rag...:(

DerekD Goldfish

Beastieboy wrote:

Ye, Humanzi on the cover of the first. The headline was that there the next big thing.......

*shudders* Humanzi are absolutluy dredful

JC 2K3

^Agreed. I had to endure them before the Pixies last year.... ugh..

Pastel_Princess

Beastieboy wrote:

Ye, Humanzi on the cover of the first. The headline was that there the next big thing.......

Humanzi?! My issue has Panic! At The Disco....

NME has been so crap lately, so has Hotpress for that matter.

Beastieboy

Ye just in town and saw panic at the haircut (four haircuts no talent) on the cover page.....looks like its just the uk one with NME Ireland written on the cover....flicked through and didn't see anything Irish......maybe the humanzi was some promo thing or the next issue or something......

Kingsize

so basically you can get the one with the 4 haircuts & No talent Band on the cover or the one with the 4 haircuts , no talent & ugly band on the cover?? Thres defo an "IRISH" Nme although what that would consist of is beyond me -maybe they are doing a "daily mail" & trying to beat Hotpress at their own game which means more cringing tributes to THE FRAMES & U2 & stealing HP's sex line adverts revenue.

-Kosh-

Laughable if you ask me. The NME has always been ****e, and this will do nothing for the local scene.

I personally think that while Hotpress has its huge defects (looking at the most recent issue: the ****ing frames on the cover AGAIN???), it's miles better than the NME. I'm sorry, the NME appeals to boring ****s who think they know about music. At least Hotpress has some political commentary. Granted, it's not amazingly hard-hitting political commentary, but it's much less reactionary than most of the ****e you get in the mainstream Irish press...

DerekD Goldfish

-Kosh- wrote:

Laughable if you ask me. The NME has always been ****e, and this will do nothing for the local scene.

I personally think that while Hotpress has its huge defects (looking at the most recent issue: the ****ing frames on the cover AGAIN???), it's miles better than the NME. I'm sorry, the NME appeals to boring ****s who think they know about music. At least Hotpress has some political commentary. Granted, it's not amazingly hard-hitting political commentary, but it's much less reactionary than most of the ****e you get in the mainstream Irish press...

the few "Political" articles ive read in hotpress come accros like they were writin by Rik from the Young Ones

Kingsize

DerekD Goldfish wrote:

the few "Political" articles ive read in hotpress come accros like they were writin by Rik from the Young Ones

Yeah then somewhere else in the issue is a picture of the radical guy who wrote it at a "do" in the morrisson hotel/Lillies/Bono's place quaffing champagne with amanda brunker & some other hot press munters &/or minor celebs!!!:D

bluto63

Don't like NME and why we need an irish one is beyond me

Heroin

DerekD Goldfish wrote:

*shudders* Humanzi are absolutluy dredful

hey! they are the best band from Ireland at the moment. and I include U2 in that. ****bags. Humanzi are a good band goin good places.

and to bluto63 , its so we can see whats goin on in the gigs and upcoming bands circuit in this country. ok , ill agree it seems pretty **** so far (we , the one with panic at the disco is anyways) but there isnt enough talent from Dublin , and the rest of the country , shown to the public excepet on really **** saturday morning shows , like sms or whatever.

JC 2K3

^lol

starn

Heroin wrote:

hey! they are the best band from Ireland at the moment. and I include U2 in that. ****bags. Humanzi are a good band goin good places.
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FCUK OFF. There a ball of Sh1te. They were the support act for Dirty Preety Things in the Ambasoder last month. Woefully bad. The only good thing I can see about them is that they are at least consitant in thae fact that there rubbish. If you geuinly belive that they are the hottest thing in Irerland at the moment I need to call round your house and pull you ears off.

Pastel_Princess

Heroin wrote:

hey! they are the best band from Ireland at the moment. and I include U2 in that. ****bags. Humanzi are a good band goin good places.

I've seen them twice (as a support band) and they are by far one of the worst bands I've ever seen in my entire life.

falipo

saw them at the foos and pixies supporting there,humanzi are cat

indiewindy

Apparently humanzi only sold 500 copies of their debut in Ireland. They got one of the nastiest reviews I have ever seen writtien about an Irish band in the Irish Times a few weeks ago just a total hatchet job.

Kingsize

500 hundred copies woulda probably put them in the top 10 ?
dont know much about the irish charts these days except the muck that I hear non stop on the radio in work.
I do believe that Humanzi are poo i'm sure ive seen them
I've seen thousands of shyte bands in my time.

Orizio

DerekD Goldfish wrote:

the few "Political" articles ive read in hotpress come accros like they were writin by Rik from the Young Ones

It was depressing to read their unintelligble commie writers and actually thinking people agreed with their nonsense.

Both NME and Hot Press are rubbish on the highest level.

BleakestH

There's already a horrendous, pointless, useless Irish music rag. it's called Hotpress. Surely we don't need NME joining them do we?

DominoDub

NME has been dead since the end the 90's ...the focus on hype industry ..has killed it off ,,along with the explosion of WEB based content which has exposed us to the great music which the rest of the world has to offer. Outside of Hype.co.uk !

BleakestH

crap left wing posturing + U2 worship + putting Westlife on the cover + coverage of woeful bands = Hot Press

Attractive Nun

^ Don't forget the 'Sex o'clock news'!

So, to conclude, Hotpress is ****e. NME is ****e. Humanzi are ****e. Panic at the Disco are ****e. Mass marketed music magazines are ****e. NME Ireland will be ****e.

But, most of all, Humanzi are ****e. Seems reasonable.

-Kosh-

I've rarely found HotPress's politics to be too posturing-like. I should know, I goddamn study issues like Politics and wrote a thesis regarding political sociology.

Then again I'm on the left side of the political spectrum so who am I to say eh? Probably an ignorant commie poser.

Anyways, we should start an independent music rag, who's with me?

Acid_Violet

Attractive Nun wrote:

So, to conclude, Hotpress is ****e. NME is ****e. Humanzi are ****e. Panic at the Disco are ****e. Mass marketed music magazines are ****e. NME Ireland will be ****e.

But, most of all, Humanzi are ****e. Seems reasonable.

True and humorous. And probably unreasonable. All the things I like.

What's the opinion on 'Q' magazine. I used to get it, but they're a bit worshipping of U2, Oasis, Nirvana and other cliché bands. They seem to endorse whatever gets airplay instead of what's good.......I'm not sure. Opinions?

honru

I find Q much worse than NME. Although erratic in making up their mind, at least NME have an idea of what they like and don't like. Q is like the Rolling Stone on this side of the planet.

None of them are as bad as Hotpress though.

Kingsize

Record Mirror,MUZIK,Jockey slut,Select,Smash hits all the good music mags
are dead!
did anyone mention that Humanzi are shyte??:D

Beastieboy

Q is also crap. They spend too much time playing lick arse with the stadium rock bands. And the whole top 100 list thing has been flogged to death at this stage. They did a list of the worst albums of all time.....nuff said

eoinf

nme as a magazine is sh*t but not as sh*t as humanzi are. The only good thing about nme is their website which is updated pretty regular unlike the hotpress website which would give humanzi a good running in a competition for ****est thing in the world ever.

sparkthatbled

It all boils down to one thing... if around 10 years ago you found your bands picture on the cover of the NME you would think "Yes, we've made it!" but now how would you react?


Best answer wins the lollipop i just found stuck to a sock under my bed

magpie

Slightly OT- but how many singles do you have to sell to get an Irish number 1 these days?

JC 2K3

sparkthatbled wrote:

It all boils down to one thing... if around 10 years ago you found your bands picture on the cover of the NME you would think "Yes, we've made it!" but now how would you react?


Best answer wins the lollipop i just found stuck to a sock under my bed

Pick up the phone and call my solicitor and begin arrangements to sue NME for libel.

Kingsize

magpie wrote:

Slightly OT- but how many singles do you have to sell to get an Irish number 1 these days?

I reckon less than 500 in a week.
I know someone who released a single several years ago,it got to number 15 in the week of release without much of a push.they had a fairly good name on the kind of "bubblin' under" bands scene but only had a regular gig following of about 200/300 heads (& thats probably exagerating)
I cant imagine that all these folks bought the single within a week so i can only presume that to get in the top 20 your talkin' 200 or less.
e.g. "Finglas" By Spiral was in the charts even before the little muppet appeared on big brother-largely due to on a few plays on 98fm

Dan133269

long live the New Morrissey Express!

sweetie

eoinf wrote:

....unlike the hotpress website which would give humanzi a good running in a competition for ****est thing in the world ever.

...and you have to subscribe to read it. They should be paying us to read it!

ghostdancer

magpie wrote:

Slightly OT- but how many singles do you have to sell to get an Irish number 1 these days?

about 5000 for the singles chart.

speedy21

so....
Has NME Ireland closed then?
I notice the new issue is just back to being called NME - with no Irish content in the middle?!

Den_M

Woulldn't wipe my bum with NME tbh, Irish edition or not.

Kingsize

Kingsize wrote:

It has all the hallmarks of something that'll be dead in 6 months...21/10/2006:(

Dead already!!
fukk that !!
we shoulda gone to Paddy Power!!

It's back!

The Walsho

There still tends to be more ads for English gigs etc than Irish ones. Can anyone actually recommend me a decent magazine rather than Hotpress and NME then?

Lunar Junkie

I think the best music magazine writing is in Mojo, though it tends to cover the usual 60s and 70s suspects too frequently, it wouldn't be the best place for keeping up with really new stuff.. when they write about somebody you know it's usually very good though. Uncut is okay too, albeit with maybe a bit of a 'dadrock' slant (same goes for Word).. I usually pick up Foggy Notions whenever they appear (seems to be only every 2-3 months though), nicely designed and a decent selection of stuff though the criticism usually aimed at them is that they pander to their subjects a bit too much.. It is worth getting, though.

The Walsho

Lunar Junkie wrote:

I think the best music magazine writing is in Mojo, though it tends to cover the usual 60s and 70s suspects too frequently, it wouldn't be the best place for keeping up with really new stuff.. when they write about somebody you know it's usually very good though. Uncut is okay too, albeit with maybe a bit of a 'dadrock' slant (same goes for Word).. I usually pick up Foggy Notions whenever they appear (seems to be only every 2-3 months though), nicely designed and a decent selection of stuff though the criticism usually aimed at them is that they pander to their subjects a bit too much.. It is worth getting, though.

Cheers for that.

ilovehoovering

kingoftherodeo wrote:

There still tends to be more ads for English gigs etc than Irish ones. Can anyone actually recommend me a decent magazine rather than Hotpress and NME then?

what the junkie said...Foggy Notions is excellent and it always features a cd with awesome songs from some bands you've probably never heard of.

Plan B is also worth checking out. hard to find in shops (it usually turns up in HMV Henry Street in Dublin). if you're used to reading magazines like HP and NME then the writing may seem a bit strange and you may hate it. anyway there are a good few articles on the website.

JakeLuxor

ghostdancer wrote:

about 5000 for the singles chart.

I remember one of those reality shows on MTV and the record label types were saying to break the top ten in Britain you need to sell about 12,000'ish singles.
Director got number two in the Irish album charts on their first week of release with 2800'ish sales and album sales are far higher than singles sales so I reckon about a 1000 sales would get you a very good placing in the Irish singles chart so a number Id say anywhere between 1000-2000 sales depending on who else is releasing would get ye a number one.

JakeLuxor

Kingsize wrote:

magpie wrote:

Slightly OT- but how many singles do you have to sell to get an Irish number 1 these days?

I reckon less than 500 in a week.
I know someone who released a single several years ago,it got to number 15 in the week of release without much of a push.they had a fairly good name on the kind of "bubblin' under" bands scene but only had a regular gig following of about 200/300 heads (& thats probably exagerating)
I cant imagine that all these folks bought the single within a week so i can only presume that to get in the top 20 your talkin' 200 or less.
e.g. "Finglas" By Spiral was in the charts even before the little muppet appeared on big brother-largely due to on a few plays on 98fm

Fair ****s to them because its alot harder process to get a chart placing (in general) than the way you have described above, its not to hard to get some radio play in Ireland.
The problem is getting the records into the shops so the public can actually buy them.
First ye have to get a distributer to take ye on, the distributer then sends out a list to music stores in Ireland each week of whats comming out the following week, its upto each individual record shop to decide if they want to stock your releases, then they decide how many they want to buy off the distributer so if you havnt got a label behind you or a good PR machine it can be hard to get record shops to take much notice.

Only my opinion btw, Im sure some others on here have had different experiences of how it works.