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Garda prick.

  • 16-10-2006 4:14pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭


    I'm not usually one for all that "fuck the gardaí" shite, but I had the worst experience I've ever had with a Garda today. I was walking down grafton street today. I walk pretty fast, I'm tall and my legs are long. Anyway, you know how it is. You're walking in between people on a crowded street. I'm not entirely sure how it happened but I was forced to walk between this old man and a group of chineese girls walking in front of me. I came pretty close to the old man which pissed him off for some reason. When I turned my head to say sorry about that, he threw a fist at me. This guy must have been about 70 years old. Luckily I reacted quickly enough to it and blocked it. At that point the old man called over a garda who just happened to be walking by, who for some reason hadn't witnessed this spectacle. I was trying to explain to him that this crazy old fuck had just swung a fist at me, only the old man started cutting in on top of me. He spun the story completely and said I had tried to hit him and that I had assaulted him by grabbing his arm. The garda turns to me and then asked me what happened. As I started explaining my story to him, he butts in and asks me why I'm wearing a hood. I'm thinking wtf? I asked him did it matter and if it was relivant to what happened? I like wearing my hood because it stops my hair blowing around the place which can be quite annoying, as those of you with longish hair probably know. He started questioning me about where I was going. At this stage he hadn't even heard my side of the story! After about another two minutes of trying to reason with him about how his questions had nothing to do with what had just happened he told me to "get the fuck out of here". I wasn't arsed with it all so I went on my way. I headed down to Footlocker at the bottom of Grafton St. and as I was going in I was stopped by the security guard and told to turn around. When I asked why I was told that he heard on the radio that I was causing trouble!

    Is there not some kind of screening process in recruiting gardaí where they filter out all of the pricks? If I had his badge number do you think I could have reported him? I only wish I got it.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,555 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    i wonder how many of the hooded minority went around poking fun at the 'trenchcoat mafia' goth kiddies after the columbine shootings.

    it's never funny when it happens to your own kind is it? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Surely that street has blanket coverage of CCTV.
    Could you follow up that way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,776 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Binomate wrote:
    I'm not usually one for all that "fuck the gardaí" shite, but I had the worst experience I've ever had with a Garda today. I was walking down grafton street today. I walk pretty fast, I'm tall and my legs are long. Anyway, you know how it is. You're walking in between people on a crowded street. I'm not entirely sure how it happened but I was forced to walk between this old man and a group of chineese girls walking in front of me. I came pretty close to the old man which pissed him off for some reason. When I turned my head to say sorry about that, he threw a fist at me. This guy must have been about 70 years old. Luckily I reacted quickly enough to it and blocked it. At that point the old man called over a garda who just happened to be walking by, who for some reason hadn't witnessed this spectacle. I was trying to explain to him that this crazy old fuck had just swung a fist at me, only the old man started cutting in on top of me. He spun the story completely and said I had tried to hit him and that I had assaulted him by grabbing his arm. The garda turns to me and then asked me what happened. As I started explaining my story to him, he butts in and asks me why I'm wearing a hood. I'm thinking wtf? I asked him did it matter and if it was relivant to what happened? I like wearing my hood because it stops my hair blowing around the place which can be quite annoying, as those of you with longish hair probably know. He started questioning me about where I was going. At this stage he hadn't even heard my side of the story! After about another two minutes of trying to reason with him about how his questions had nothing to do with what had just happened he told me to "get the fuck out of here". I wasn't arsed with it all so I went on my way. I headed down to Footlocker at the bottom of Grafton St. and as I was going in I was stopped by the security guard and told to turn around. When I asked why I was told that he heard on the radio that I was causing trouble!

    Is there not some kind of screening process in recruiting gardaí where they filter out all of the pricks? If I had his badge number do you think I could have reported him? I only wish I got it.

    I'd be more angry with that old fecker who accused you of starting on him to be honest.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Sorry Binomate but if I was a Gardai and was approached by an eldery pensioner claiming some young lad with long hair and wearing a hood over his head had somehow assaulted him, despite the pleas otherwise I would probably be more inclined to show some disbelief at your side of the story.

    I don't see how this makes the Garda a príck. More so if anyting this thread should be called "Old Age Pensioner Príck"

    Sorry to hear about your experience but I think thats how most Gardai would react given the two involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,776 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    HavoK wrote:
    Sorry Binomate but if I was a Gardai and was approached by an eldery pensioner claiming some young lad with long hair and wearing a hood over his head had somehow assaulted him, despite the pleas otherwise I would probably be more inclined to show some disbelief at your side of the story.

    I don't see how this makes the Garda a príck. More so if anyting this thread should be called "Old Age Pensioner Príck"

    Sorry to hear about your experience but I think thats how most Gardai would react given the two involved.

    If a gard has acted based on appearance, I'm sorry I'm changing my mind - The gaurd is the prick.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    In these situations, the Gardai are indeed ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Just My View


    Binomate wrote:
    Is there not some kind of screening process in recruiting gardaí where they filter out all of the pricks?
    There is, it filters them in, not out.:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Ikky Poo2 wrote:
    If a gard has acted based on appearance, I'm sorry I'm changing my mind - The gaurd is the prick.

    Agreed. There is a good chance he was acting on the appearance, the question he asked about your hood, I don't see what it had to do with the issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Binomate


    I can't explain why I wasn't annoyed by the old guy at all really. Maybe my annoyance at him is just shadowed by my annoyance at the Garda. I mean he's there to investigate the truth isn't he? Yet he approaches something relatively small like this with his discission made because I have a hood on my head. The fact that the state pays his salary to discriminate agaisnt me really gets me angry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 981 ✭✭✭tj-music.com


    **** them! They r quite useless at times and it is clear prejudice and stereotypical. I thought their training would be more sophisticated :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    Binomate wrote:
    I walk pretty fast
    Same here, I know where I'm going and I'm determined to get there as fast as my legs will carry me. (within walking speed)
    Gets me in a right bloody temper weaving through all the stupid slow gobshítes who wander around like they're lost... or dodder their way out of a shop onto the street and stand there fixing their bags, oblivious to the crowd of people rushing towards them.
    I've actually had to STOP and wait for one of these morons to start moving.
    They need to have a fast lane for people like us and a slow lane for all the tourists, old people and women with buggies.
    I'd be tempted to deck someone one of these days. FúCKING MOOOOVVVE :mad:
    Needless to say I avoid the city center whenever possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭joebhoy1916


    PORNAPSTER wrote:
    In these situations, the Gardai are indeed ****.

    There pricks anyways in any situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    This is just going to descend into a typical "The Gardai are useless ****" thread...rather, it already, and still on the first page...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭YeatsCounty


    Ikky Poo2 wrote:
    If a gard has acted based on appearance, I'm sorry I'm changing my mind - The gaurd is the prick.
    Got to agree. The Garda was supposed to listen to both sides to the story before doing anything. Completely disregarding one side of the story because he didn't like the look of one of the people involved is not the way to effectively go about things and it only leads to more anger against the Gardai by those who end up on the wrong side of this.

    Sure, more than a few young men who happen to wear hoodies cause lots of trouble on our streets but that doesn't deny all hoody wearers the right to explain their side oif the story if they feel that they are in the right. Having a law enforcement officer ignore you and then telling you to "get the **** out of here" based on the physical appearances of both parties is not on. The OP should have been allowed to explain himself at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭oleras


    Binomate wrote:
    I wasn't arsed with it all so I went on my way..

    ....... and complained on Boards .....

    If you felt you were hard done by you should have stuck to your guns and asked to have it sorted at the station along with an apology for swearing at you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    If you felt you were hard done by you should have stuck to your guns and asked to have it sorted at the station along with an apology for swearing at you.
    lol, comical


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Binomate wrote:
    Is there not some kind of screening process in recruiting gardaí where they filter out all of the pricks? If I had his badge number do you think I could have reported him? I only wish I got it.

    Wow, you got messed around by an old person, happens all the time i fear. And do you want to know why, because apparently we owe them something. :)

    Anyway, all you can do is laugh about it dude. If it's longer haired chap in a hoodie vs old man, 99% of people ( cops or not ) are gonna pick the old man. It's tough but true.

    You seem young, but eventually will learn to deal with people assuming things about you because of the way you look. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭oleras


    CiaranC wrote:
    lol, comical

    Not as comical as moaning to a bunch of strangers as if looking for some sort of common agreement that all gardai are pr1cks.... Build a bridge OP.... :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    No need to blame gardai when ye get yer ass kicked by some old dude :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Spitfire666


    at the end of the day, you said yourself it was something stupid and was delt with quickly, you wer told to go on your way. Not a big deal, IF you done something wrong you got away with it. If you didnt, nothing bad happened to you anyway. Move on get over it. I doubt you were cursed at but thats trivial anyway and cant be prooved either way.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    Savman wrote:
    No need to blame gardai when ye get yer ass kicked by some old dude :D:D

    he's probably sitting on a high stool in Keoghs laughing about how he set up that long haired hooded wa***r who races up and down Grafton St every day:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭Oral Slang


    HavoK wrote:
    Sorry Binomate but if I was a Gardai and was approached by an eldery pensioner claiming some young lad with long hair and wearing a hood over his head had somehow assaulted him, despite the pleas otherwise I would probably be more inclined to show some disbelief at your side of the story.

    I don't see how this makes the Garda a príck. More so if anyting this thread should be called "Old Age Pensioner Príck"

    God, I'm glad you're not a garda so.
    Thankfully I'm female and have yet to experience anything this, but I've witnessed / heard so many stories of gardai being ridiculously ignorant as in the OP's story, from mostly male friends of mine that unfortunately it doesn't surprise me. Can't believe they're still getting away with this ****e..
    I remember 10 / 15 years ago hearing of things like this, but they still haven't improved with regard to IQ / manners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Take the badge number in future OP. I know ya don't think of it at the time, but... try to :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    DaveMcG wrote:
    Take the badge number in future OP. I know ya don't think of it at the time, but... try to :)

    unless of course the copper doesnt have a badge number :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    First off I'm not getting on a rant about the Guards, however I'll just say this first before someone thinks I'm getting off on a mad one..

    I'm 40yrs old, I also wear a hoodie. Usually the pullover type as I train most evenings and their warm. I'm also a serving member of the defence forces with 21 yrs service and a pretty mature and level headed bloke. Right having said all that I'll say this.........

    99% of my experience with dealing with the GS has been a negative one. Most I find are bullys, and I'm not confusing assertivness with bullying as I'm a pretty assertive person myself. I've also found the vast majority of them lazy and less then conscientious!.

    With the benefit of experience I tend to believe the OP's story as (again in my experience) most guards will take the easy way out & bully the easy target.

    OP you sound pretty decent and level headed yourself, pity you had to discover our lazy good for nothing GS on Grafton St. today, but you got away lightly IMHO (from a bully and not justice). Mark it down to experience and never trust the swine again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,662 ✭✭✭Trinity


    You are free to lodge a complaint about his attitude. There is a place in the Irish Life mall, it has to be in writing.

    However i am guessing he did actually listen to your side of the story (at the same time as interupting you!) because he didnt arrest you for assaulting a pensioner which is what the aul lad was making out (or at least attempted assault). If he believed the aul fella you would have been hauled up the station i imagine.

    YOu should have lodged a complaint of assault towards the old man, he tried to hit you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    Mairt wrote:
    First off I'm not getting on a rant about the Guards, however .

    And then we get your rant:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Binomate wrote:
    I headed down to Footlocker at the bottom of Grafton St. and as I was going in I was stopped by the security guard and told to turn around. When I asked why I was told that he heard on the radio that I was causing trouble!

    Next time come down to the other Footlocker on Grafton Street. We don't have a security guard or radios so you'll be fine! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭magpie


    wearing a hood and shopping in footlocker. hmmmmm ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    They need to have a fast lane for people like us and a slow lane for all the tourists, old people and women with buggies.
    I'd be tempted to deck someone one of these days. FúCKING MOOOOVVVE :mad:
    Needless to say I avoid the city center whenever possible.

    Ugh, Buggies...people with buggies annoy the fcuk out of me "I have a buggy blah blah I'm special" Twice on satruday I had to get out of the way of two bouugies when there was plenty of space either side of me. One man didn't even bother asking my friend to move, just pushed his buggy in to her heels before she realised and stepped out of the way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Binomate


    oleras wrote:
    Not as comical as moaning to a bunch of strangers as if looking for some sort of common agreement that all gardai are pr1cks.... Build a bridge OP.... :rolleyes:
    Garda is not plural, Gardaí is. One Garda, two Gardaí. See? Now read the title and apply what you have just learned. Not so much looking for a common agreement that all Gardaí are pricks any more since I'm only speaking about one Garda, is it? I suggest you try reading posts before you reply to them.

    Xavi6 wrote:
    Next time come down to the other Footlocker on Grafton Street. We don't have a security guard or radios so you'll be fine!
    Trying not to go off topic but, the one opposite HMV or the one opposite AIB?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    To be honest I don't think complainging will get you very far, you'd more than likely be told to fúck off again. Just chalk it down to experience and remember that just because someone wears a uniform doesn't mean they're not a príck. I've been told basically the same thing by a Garda because I reported some guy who punched me and pulled a knife. Had a few drinks on me and other guy was sober so my side of the story didn't count


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    OAP vs Una Bomber, of course the Garda is gonna believe him, unfortunately.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    You report him and see what happens then. If your a regular walker of Grafton St every cop in the area will know who you are.

    For something "small" like this I would just let it go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Binomate


    I can't report him. A: I can't be arsed following it up. B: I didn't catch his badge number.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,562 ✭✭✭connundrum


    /also see 'I'm not racist but...'

    I have often been stopped by cops for somthing I haven't done, and I've often been let away with things I should have been reprimanded for. Take the hit and be glad that they generally do the right thing and generally are there when ya need em.

    *please note that I did say generally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭alleepally


    Piste wrote:
    Ugh, Buggies...people with buggies annoy the fcuk out of me "I have a buggy blah blah I'm special" Twice on satruday I had to get out of the way of two bouugies when there was plenty of space either side of me. One man didn't even bother asking my friend to move, just pushed his buggy in to her heels before she realised and stepped out of the way.

    Sounds to me like you could be one of those packs of annoying teenagers who stand on paths gabbing away to their friends blocking said path for all other pedestrians (including mothers/fathers with buggies) who feel you should have a bit of awareness of others and have the common sense to not stand in such a way that others don't have to step out onto the road to get by. I would suggest the buggy pusher in question had had enough of having to raise their voice and say "excuse me" a bunch of times before and decided to teach ye a little lesson?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    TBH, people should stand to the side of the path/aisle (in a supermarket) if they are looking at something, or on their phone, I was in Tesco today and some muppet was blocking the entire Aisle while on his phone. (They were rather narrow for some reason)

    John


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    Lump wrote:
    I was in Tesco today and some muppet was blocking the entire Aisle while on his phone.
    Ram your trolley into him then pretend to be blind. (note: only works when wearing very dark sunglasses)
    Have to admire his multi-tasking abilities though in fairness.
    Lump wrote:
    They were rather narrow for some reason
    Oh when will Tesco make aisles to suit the husky gentleman? :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lorax


    God I hate the gardai.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    Ram your trolley into him then pretend to be blind. (note: only works when wearing very dark sunglasses)
    Have to admire his multi-tasking abilities though in fairness.


    Oh when will Tesco make aisles to suit the husky gentleman? :p

    Yea, HE was a fat **** alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    Binomate wrote:
    I'm not usually one for all that "fuck the gardaí" shite, but I had the worst experience I've ever had with a Garda today.

    If thats the worst experience you've ever had with a Garda I'd count yourself lucky. But I know how annoying it can be when something like that happens to you, since I was maybe 10 or 11 years old I've faced this kind of discrimination by the Gardai many many times, due to my accent, my address or the fact that I wear my hood up when its cold to keep me warm, I could give a load of examples but they wouldn't be anything different than everyones heard a hundred times before. I have complained in the past when i was younger, walked into the local Garda barracks and asked to speak to the seargent with times, dates, locations, witnesses and shoulder numbers, all it ever got me was a lot more hassle and a black mark against my name with the local Gardai so I stopped bothering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Binomate wrote:
    Trying not to go off topic but, the one opposite HMV or the one opposite AIB?

    Nah that's the UPPER Grafton Street Store. I'm opposite BT. Don't be giving us bottom of Grafton Street workers a bad name by mis-naming our store!!! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 271 ✭✭Rebeller


    Lorax wrote:
    God I hate the gardai.

    I do too. Any dealings I have ever had with them have been extremely frustrating and disappointing.

    There is a distinct lack of professionalism from the Irish police force. Having spoken with and having had dealings with police officers from a variety of countries (US, France, UK, Portugal) I notice a definite confrontational and aggressive attitude anytime I have to speak to a member of the gardai.

    Discipline has broken down which means that there are no sanctions for gardai who cross the line and abuse their power.

    The amount of damages paid out to citizens in civil actions against gardai is increasing every year. The new Garda Ombudsman does not have the same range of independence and power as its equivalent in the north.

    Muck savages the pack of them!:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭\m/_(>_<)_\m/


    at the end of the day, you said yourself it was something stupid and was delt with quickly, you wer told to go on your way. Not a big deal, IF you done something wrong you got away with it. If you didnt, nothing bad happened to you anyway. Move on get over it. I doubt you were cursed at but thats trivial anyway and cant be prooved either way.


    interesting.... gardai gets it wrong.... not a big deal, just move on.
    now that argument is getting a little boring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭skywalker


    kearnsr wrote:
    You report him and see what happens then. If your a regular walker of Grafton St every cop in the area will know who you are.

    For something "small" like this I would just let it go.


    Every garda in the area is going to be on the look out for "the bloke in the hoodie with the long hair" who walks down Grafton st occasionally?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭mountainyman


    A few years ago I was walking down O'Connell street dinking a can. A guard came up to me and told me to put it down. I sculled it and threw it on the ground then belched in his face.

    I was arrested, beaten up and never charged.

    Is that fair?

    MM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭\m/_(>_<)_\m/


    A few years ago I was walking down O'Connell street dinking a can. A guard came up to me and told me to put it down. I sculled it and threw it on the ground then belched in his face.

    I was arrested, beaten up and never charged.

    Is that fair?

    MM

    and you should of been arrested and charged..... but beaten up is a bit excessive...but over all yes... that is the manners on of a scumbag


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭mountainyman


    I'd rather be beaten up than charged.

    MM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭Sp@rtacus


    A few years ago I was walking down O'Connell street dinking a can...

    Wouldnt be terribly au fait with the "dinking", but I reckon you shouldve been charged... it sounds rude!:D

    As for Binomate... So you had "the worst experience I've ever had with a Garda today" (oh and by the way, Oleras referred to "all Gard" which being plural was correct:rolleyes: ), which culminated in the Garda in question listening to you whine about being 'savagely attacked' by Grandpa Simpson and only for your ninja reflexes, you could be on your way to the Mater, before he told you to fcuk off and be on your way. You poor little teddy bear.

    So outraged were you by the episode, that after recovering from the shock and terror of having a pensioner swing a frail little fist at you, and the sheer tear inducing frustration that your plight was not championed by the law, that you skipped off down to Footlocker..?? Then when you suffered the further indignation of being rejected from a sports shop (hahaha), your first instinct was scurry off to the nearest interent cafe to whine about it to everyone else. TTtthen, after alll that, you come out with "I can't report him. A: I can't be arsed following it up. B: I didn't catch his badge number."... Loser. Gardai in general, as someone very astutely pointed out earlier, will invariably take the easy route and intimidate/bully the weakest target into submission so that the particualr incident within which they are, unfotunateyl in their eyes, involved, will disappear and they can get back to the real business of eating pudding boxes and fighting, while armed, over whose round it is next. He was prob Pearse St station and couldnt have been @rsed walking the pair of you back down there to listen to "he pulled my pig tail first". Grow up, cut your hair and get a job. ;)
    There's 3 minutes of my life I'm never going to get back


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