Dont ban WC

darkman2

Ah here, this is a bit uncalled for. There is nothing whatsoever wrong with Weathercheck's posts. You should reconsider that as this board will feel pretty empty without him posting. His posts are very informative and a credit to the forum (especially coming into Winter). They are most certainly not exagerations and even if they were there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Snowbie your also a credit to this forum but I dont support rash things like this with no reason. I may have to reconsider posting here in the light of such a mad decision. This forum dose not have the luxury of getting rid of ppl who know their stuff willy nilly.

boardsdotie

darkman2 wrote:

Ah here, this is a bit uncalled for. There is nothing whatsoever wrong with Weathercheck's posts. You should reconsider that as this board will feel pretty empty without him posting. His posts are very informative and a credit to the forum (especially coming into Winter). They are most certainly not exagerations and even if they were there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Snowbie your also a credit to this forum but I dont support rash things like this with no reason. I may have to reconsider posting here in the light of such a mad decision. This forum dose not have the luxury of getting rid of ppl who know their stuff willy nilly.

I agree

I really enjoy WC's Posts

Moderators should not take crticisim so personally.

Trogdor

I agree.I saw absolutely nothing wrong with WC's posts and i don't see how they were exagerated.

Frankly DM2,I'm surprised by your comments...

As for WC,he is around long enough to be familiar with the boards charter.

Trogdor you havent been around here long enough to know weathercheck.
You should ask him why he is banned from TWO...

boardsdotie

Tristrame wrote:

Frankly DM2,I'm surprised by your comments...

As for WC,he is around long enough to be familiar with the boards charter.

Trogdor you havent been around here long enough to know weathercheck.
You should ask him why he is banned from TWO...

I have just read the charter.

What did WC do exactly that required a ban?

Trogdor

I know i haven't been around long enough to know much about WC. I was just commenting on this incedent and how the other thread got out of hand, when i saw nothing wrong with it.

boardsdotie

boardsdotie wrote:

I have just read the charter.

What did WC do exactly that required a ban?

Read post 2 of the charter,its there in black and white.

boardsdotie

Tristrame wrote:

Read post 2 of the charter,its there in black and white.

WC only complained about his thread being renamed.

He was told it was not renamed but merged.

He said he will not post here any more and was subsequently banned.

Nowhere in post two of the charter does it mention banning for this reason.

lucernarian

I saw the thread about an hour ago, just after WC made his last comment. I have to say that he was looking to be banned and I couldn't see how Snowbie could ignore that.

What is not so clear-cut is whether he deserved to be p***ed off. He made a wild prediction, mabye in the hope of gaining glory in pulling off the outside chance that it's a worst case scenario. That kind of stuff can be entertaining but excessive. There has to be some seriousness when making forecasts like that. There are many groups and individuals who rely on forecasts and while this is an amateur forum, it doesn't have to be a circus.

However, the title of the thread when it was closed (I didn't see the previous title) was ludicrous, with all due respect to Snowbie. I cannot see the purpose to it and I don't want to second-guess Snowbie. He can speak for himself if he wants.

I hope WC won't be gone permanently. He needs to cool his emotions and wisen up. He's been more a positive influence than a negative influence on the forum over the years.

trogdor

trogdor wrote:

I know i haven't been around long enough to know much about WC. I was just commenting on this incedent and how the other thread got out of hand, when i saw nothing wrong with it.

Ach I'll just make two comments.
This board is moderated and a decision was made to merge threads.
None of WC's posts were removed,they were just merged,he could have continued what he was saying without the hissy fit.

snowbie was actually quite calm about it.
The piece in the charter that I referred to was put in place at a time when exaggerated threads by the dozen literally were coming from WC.

What you may not realise is that WC behind the scenes does not like being moderated.He tends to send rather not nice pms to mods.
Thats why he got a site ban on TWO and unfortunately he is carrying on the same way here and theres only one thing thats going to lead to.

boardsdotie

boardsdotie wrote:

WC only complained about his thread being renamed.

He was told it was not renamed but merged.

He said he will not post here any more and was subsequently banned.

Nowhere in post two of the charter does it mention banning for this reason.

Any breach of the charter,(which WC has clearly breached as per post 2 by ignoring the thread creation guidelines) can lead to a ban at the mods discretion.

Sending abusive pm's doesnt help.

boardsdotie

Tristrame wrote:

Ach I'll just make two comments.
This board is moderated and a decision was made to merge threads.
None of WC's posts were removed,they were just merged,he could have continued what he was saying without the hissy fit.

snowbie was actually quite calm about it.
The piece in the charter that I referred to was put in place at a time when exaggerated threads by the dozen literally were coming from WC.

What you may not realise is that WC behind the scenes does not like being moderated.He tends to send rather not nice pms to mods.
Thats why he got a site ban on TWO and unfortunately he is carrying on the same way here and theres only one thing thats going to lead to.

Hissy Fit ? We are all alowed express ourselves are we not

Exagerated ? UK Met Office is backing him up

Not Nice PMs ? Ignore list

PS I am not having a Hissy fit, Please do not ban me

boardsdotie

boardsdotie wrote:

Hissy Fit ? We are all alowed express ourselves are we not

Within the confines of the charter yes.

Exagerated ? UK Met Office is backing him up

Please show me the UK weather forecast for a hurricane next weekend and I'll take your point.

Not Nice PMs ? Ignore list

Or a longer ban or both.

PS I am not having a Hissy fit, Please do not ban me

I couldnt even if I wanted to which I dont.
And anyway you are being polite.

boardsdotie

We could quote each other all night.

This is not a professional weather website, its for opinions and light reading.
Governments and individuals are not going to make decisions on what WC posts.

They will wait for the more reserved Met.ie report

However one of these days he will be right.. again

This is my last reply.

billy the squid

should this not be in Feedback instead of here?

6th

There is one in feedback but WCs fellow posters want to show there support for him.

darkman2

About WC's predictions. At this moment I share his prediction that something quite nasty is on the horizon for later Thursday. Indeed a deep depression of 975hpa looks set to brush up the West Coast. The ECM backs this, in fact all models now seem to be coming to a concensus on its track. Nobody here said it would be 'a hurricane', it certainly wont be. But there is definatley potential there for very heavy rain and severe gale force winds on Thursday night. It is of particular importance for a number of reasons - most notably the Ryder Cup starts the following day and also the winds will be exceptionally strong southerlies. We will have frontal systems across Ireland Wednesday, Thursday and Friday - which means alot of rain anyway, not even taking into account this little feature and flooding is a possibility. There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that. We are talking 72 hrs out. Its not a wild prediction. The only thing really that has to be established is how long it will last. Currently it looks like being quite brief in terms of the very strong winds but like I say there is going to be alot of rain. It will be an ex-tropical storm by the time it gets here and possibly will bring the strongest winds in years. Its only right to bring attention to it.

Also I wouldnt underestimate the strenght potential of the winds. Look at the tightness of the isobars around the centre. Very unusual for a low that deep to be baring down on Ireland. I wouldnt want to be in a boat - put it that way!!!

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts/d/getchart/catalog/products/forecasts/medium/deterministic/msl_uv850_z500!Wind%20850%20and%20mslp!72!Europe!pop!od!oper!public_plots!2006091812!!chart.gif

charlie@w.d

the met office in the uk also have a news release about it.
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2006/pr20060918.html

darkman2

darkman2 wrote:

About WC's predictions. At this moment I share his prediction that something quite nasty is on the horizon for later Thursday. Indeed a deep depression of 975hpa looks set to brush up the West Coast. The ECM backs this, in fact all models now seem to be coming to a concensus on its track. Nobody here said it would be 'a hurricane', it certainly wont be. But there is definatley potential there for very heavy rain and severe gale force winds on Thursday night. It is of particular importance for a number of reasons - most notably the Ryder Cup starts the following day and also the winds will be exceptionally strong southerlies. We will have frontal systems across Ireland Wednesday, Thursday and Friday - which means alot of rain anyway, not even taking into account this little feature and flooding is a possibility. There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying that. We are talking 72 hrs out. Its not a wild prediction. The only thing really that has to be established is how long it will last. Currently it looks like being quite brief in terms of the very strong winds but like I say there is going to be alot of rain. It will be an ex-tropical storm by the time it gets here and possibly will bring the strongest winds in years. Its only right to bring attention to it.

Also I wouldnt underestimate the strenght potential of the winds. Look at the tightness of the isobars around the centre. Very unusual for a low that deep to be baring down on Ireland. I wouldnt want to be in a boat - put it that way!!!

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts/d/getchart/catalog/products/forecasts/medium/deterministic/msl_uv850_z500!Wind%20850%20and%20mslp!72!Europe!pop!od!oper!public_plots!2006091812!!chart.gif

I dont disagree with you,theres certainly potential for a very windy if not stormy wet period if that maintains its present course which is likely.
I do disagree with melodramatic thread titles though.

darkman2

Tristrame wrote:

I dont disagree with you,theres certainly potential for a very windy if not stormy wet period if that maintains its present course which is likely.
I do disagree with melodramatic thread titles though.

Im not saying 'stormy' just yet though potential is there. Im just pointing it out because I dont think WC's prediction should be held against him because looking at the charts he has a very strong case. Thats what forcasting is all about:)

As for the thread title - is it really that bad? I would say its not great but I dont see much wrong with it.

Snowbie

Weathercheck wrote:

i would expect to see gusts of 70/80mph

Snowbie wrote:

This is Sunday Evening,wait untill at least Wedensday before you start predicting Hurricane force gusts.

You think too DM2 that we will receive his prediction?
After all i still recommend Wedensday to be favourable for a 75% accurate forecast.

darkman2

Snowbie wrote:

You think too DM2 that we will receive his prediction?
After all i still recommend Wedensday to be favourable for a 75% accurate forecast.

70/80mph gusts are easily acheiveable from the charts depending on the track. That is not a 'hurricane' force gust. Though it is very windy for Ireland. No, the real concern, if it was a hit like the ECM suggests is very strong sustained winds and torrential rain. This is all very much on for later Thursday. It will be another day or so before a really accurate track could be put on it but right now it is looking very windy and very wet.

Rudolph Claus

Lol, who`d have thought the weather forum would be a place of bickering. I must drop in more often

Snowbie

darkman2 wrote:

70/80mph gusts are easily acheiveable from the charts depending on the track. That is not a 'hurricane' force gust.

Well 75mph is.

darkman2

Snowbie wrote:

Well 75mph is.

Yes - for sustained winds - thats a hurricane (CAT 2). A 75mph gust is not a 'hurricane gust' neither is it termed as such. You have to differentiate between gusts and sustained winds. It is not unusual in Ireland when sustained winds are 35 - 40mph for 75mph gusts. That is no where near hurricane strength though. You need sustained winds of 50 - 70mph for hurricane force winds. That is not possible in this part of the world.

billy the squid

darkman2 wrote:

Yes - for sustained winds - thats a hurricane (CAT 2). A 75mph gust is not a 'hurricane gust' neither is it termed as such. You have to differentiate between gusts and sustained winds. It is not unusual in Ireland when sustained winds are 35 - 40mph for 75mph gusts. That is no where near hurricane strength though. You need sustained winds of 50 - 70mph for hurricane force winds. That is not possible in this part of the world.

Sustained 75mph is actually a hurricant (CAT 1) CAT 2 is actually 96 mph sustained.

but that is jut me being pedantic.

lucernarian

If I cast my memory back to the Christmas storm of 1997 (I think it's that year) there were gusts of up to 100 Mph. With a storm like that forecast in 72 hours time, I would certainly expect gusts of 110 kph or greater. Though Weathercheck made his prediction a lot earlier. But 60 Mph gusts are not that uncommon. 70 and 80 Mph (130 kph) are much more uncommon but the storm currently in the Azores or thereabouts is not a normal depression either.

BigCon

Just lifted this from TWO (by a "respected poster"):

"With just 60hrs to go, I think we're now seeing a thin consensus on the likely outcome. Most models this morning agree that the storm's track will take the low centre through Ireland, although whether this is western or eastern Ireland is uncertain. It will still become very windy indeed across western parts of the UK, but damaging conditions would be restricted to Ireland.
And whatever anybody says, it's not 'normal' to receive 70-80mph gusts of wind across Ireland in mid-September, as the trees in leaf would agree with as the struggled to stand upright"

Batten down the hatches!

BigCon

I posted this in the feedback thread, but I'll put it here too to show my support for the guy:

My 2c:
I think WC always goes for the most extreme likelihood as forecast by the many charts. He also adds a bit of sensationalism to them.

However, anyone that frequents the weather forum regularly knows this, so I don't see it as a problem (plus there's always the possibility of his forecast coming off - I believe he was the first person to predict snow on Christmas day, 2 years ago, a prediction that was met with some skepticism iirc).

I also remember the last time he was banned from weather; at the time it seemed to be a harsh ban as well.
I don't know the content of his abusive pm's, but I would guess they’re not too bad, considering how most of his posts are treated by some of the folks on the weather forum.

Bottom line is I think he shouldn't have been banned as I like reading his take on upcoming events and they always have some basis in fact...

Raiser

I don't think I've ever posted in the weather forum - but I do enjoy browsing posts there from time to time. WC is a boards.ie icon & the forum would lose out greatly if he directed his peculiar obsession elsewhere.....;)

BigCon

BigCon wrote:

I posted this in the feedback thread...[/COLOR]

And I replied...
Bottom line is,and it really is the bottom line,WC wasnt banned because there may be a storm coming,he wasnt banned because of his opinions,he was banned because he un did and continued to attempt to undo a moderators decision to enforce the charter of the board.

I dont know how often I have to repeat this or say it in several different ways, but he breached the charter.His posts were fine when tidied.
Snowbie had no intention of banning him for them once the thread title was altered.
The banning arose when the moderator was ignored and thats as it should be.
WC had the power to avoid that decision,by accepting the moderating and continuing to post.
He would not have been stopped doing so had he behaved.
He brought it on himself.

I'm not surprised but then,I'm not one for letting how I expect a poster to react, stop me from implimenting the charter of any board I have ever moderated and I'm glad snowbie doesnt either.
Thats what moderators are for and thats what keeps the place tidy.

sirpsycho

I vote for WC to be reinstated. He's one of the few people on this forum with a huge depth of knowledge weatherwise. I always browse the weather forum and enjoy reading his posts. like a previous poster mentioned, everyone is allowed to go on a rant / hissy fit now and again. the depth of his knowledge coupled with the sometimes colorful descriptions far outweigh any reasons to ban the guy. it's an amateur forum afterall. sometimes i think mods like to go on their own hissy fits(power trips) from time to time

BigCon

I went off and had a read of the Charter - believe it or not this is the first time I've ever read a charter on boards - I tend to treat them like an instruction manual - to be ignored except when things go wrong.

The updated charter is fine and is common sense (as it should be), however the bit added in 2004 is confusing:

"Please post any views on winter weather forecasts in relevant threads.
New threads on this subject may only be created for specefic Winter weather events when they have happened and not ahead of when anyone thinks they are going to happen.

The purpose of this is to keep the forecast of events that may or may not happen separate from the reporting of events that are actually happening.
This is to prevent clutter and to treat events like snow storms as they happen as a "news" event" with separate threads of their own.

This rule will also apply to other seasons and threads may be started at the appropriate time for the forecasting of events then.
Similarally for other seasons,specefic weather events eg thunderstorms, heatwave etc can have their own thread only as they happen and not before."

This doesn't make sence to me, maybe I'm thick? Surely if there is an unusual weather event possible in the near future there is no harm creating a thread commenting on it (e.g. snow on Christmas day, possible reamains of a hurricane hitting us etc.)?
Was this bit added to the charter specifically to address WC's posts?

6th

BigCon wrote:

Was this bit added to the charter specifically to address WC's posts?

Yep.

Tristrame wrote:

That part of the charter was put in place by me when I was mod of that board to keep the board tidy and to stem the flow of several ridiculous threads by WC.

Villain

I posted this in Feedback but thought I'd put it here as well:

WC might get a little excited and look at the worst case scenario a little too often, but his knowledge is excellent and he is very young so I'm sure with more experience he use that knowledge in a more relaxed way.

During the winter I post a lot on the weather forum but I normally post questions or reports of what is currently happening as I don't have a great knowledge of reading the charts, there is only a few members who reply to those question and WC is one.

Surely a compromise can be met?

DapperGent

Another cross post:

Taken in isolation this ban can be seen as being unfair. However put simply there are two things that Weathercheck has been banned for in the past and warned about for the future:

1. Taking the worst case scenario of a set of possibilities and presenting in as extremely likely or certain. Predicting bad or dangerous weather without any proviso as to it either not being so bad or for that matter not occuring at all.

2. Throwing a hissy fit when he gets moderated.

Here Weathercheck presented the worst case scenario without much in the way of alluding to it's uncertainty and then threw a hissy fit at a thread merge with the less sensational thread title being used along with changing the thread title himself.

This comes after being given so much leeway and second chances by myself and Earthman/Tristrame in the past due to how young he was and his enthusiasm. It was made absolutely clear to him that he was on his last chance, I think we've been very fair to him.

Perhaps all the leeway he's been given is some sort of subtle bullying plan?

BigCon

Hobart sums it up best on the feedback thread imo:

Hobart wrote:

I don't think I've ever posted on the weather forum, and I have not read many posts on it, but I do see WC's nic pop up on a regular basis on the front page.

Maybe he talks sh1te, maybe not. I personally find that most "forecasters" could not tell you if it was going to be cold or warm tomorrow, never mind the complications of things like rain, snow,etc....

Maybe the guy is just a 17yo going on like a 17yo. There does appear to be a undercurrent to try and wind up the guy to a certain extent by people who should know better. I remember we had an ignore function installed (if memeory serves me right at my suggestion ) that would cope with 90% of the problem here.

From what I can see most people think he is wildly inaccurate, while others, who don't really comment on his forecasting ability, find the guys posts informative and enjoyable.

I would have also thought that the science of meteorology involves a certain amount of guesswork. So his guesswork seems to be a bit more inaccuarte than others...meh tbh. The charter has been changed to try and circumvent his inaccuracies. Hasn't really worked, has it? Ignore function tbh.

As for the charter:

That's what you linked too Con. Tbh I don't think Tom Hanks, Ian McKellen and Audrey Tautou armed with a cryptex would be able to unravel that mess. For example, these lines:
Please post any views on winter weather forecasts in relevant threads.
New threads on this subject may only be created for specefic Winter weather events when they have happened and not ahead of when anyone thinks they are going to happen.

You talk about the posting of forecasts being in relevant treads and yet you deem it necessary to say that new threads can only be created for events that have happened??? How is that forecasting (I know it makes the job easier), but still.

I've seen the thread(s) in Mod forum, this would also lead me to believe that the guy is being targetted, and unfairly.

kaizer

Looks like your man weathercheck was right!!

This is the first warning of disruption due to Severe gales

The Met Office is forecasting a period of very windy weather over western parts of the United Kingdom in the next few days. The strongest winds are expected during Thursday with Northern Ireland most at risk. Gusts of 70-80mph are expected. Winds of this strength early in the autumn are likely to lead to disruption to transport and power supplies. There is also a small risk of exceptionally severe gales with gusts in excess of 80mph.

This warning will be updated around 1000 tomorrow Wednesday 20 September

Whoohoo bring on the hurricane
:cool:

BigCon

BigCon wrote:

Hobart sums it up best on the feedback thread imo:

Dont you mean he sums up your opinion best.

by the way what did you do with that sig you used have with yer man?

DapperGent

Compromised on a one month ban.

BigCon

Tristrame wrote:

Dont you mean he sums up your opinion best.

by the way what did you do with that sig you used have with yer man?

What man? My sig changes as often as the weather
Good to see the ban commuted to one month - I hope WC comes back...

darkman2

IMHO this board is over moderated and the charter should be reviewed. This is a weather forum. What the charter seems to suggest is dont bother forcasting, just put in whats going to happen. Sure thats not forcasting. Compared to other forums this board is way over regulated. Its suppose to a weather forum for goodness sake. It should be a place where newbies and pro's can make whatever forcasts they like regardless of whether it is right or wrong. It should be a fun board too, not a boot camp. A place where ppl can learn the various mechanisms of weather forcasting. Thats what forcasting is all about. Nothing any of us say here is ever 100% accurate. I really think there needs to be more latitude on the forum to encourage more people to get involved. Or else the board will remain relatively empty.

BigCon

darkman2 wrote:

IMHO this board is over moderated and the charter should be reviewed. This is a weather forum. What the charter seems to suggest is dont bother forcasting, just put in whats going to happen. Sure thats not forcasting. Compared to other forums this board is way over regulated. Its suppose to a weather forum for goodness sake. It should be a place where newbies and pro's can make whatever forcasts they like regardless of whether it is right or wrong. It should be a fun board too, not a boot camp. A place where ppl can learn the various mechanisms of weather forcasting. Thats what forcasting is all about. Nothing any of us say here is ever 100% accurate. I really think there needs to be more latitude on the forum to encourage more people to get involved. Or else the board will remain relatively empty.

Agree 100%

Supercell

dm2, line spacing , paragraphs would be nice, my eyes bleed after decyphering your diatribe.

Do agree that a weather forum on a not weather bulliton board should have a little more leeway than a weather forum on a weather only board.

Many readers on the weather forum here are probably just passing though, unlike maybe TWO, Netweather, UKWW etc where they have a genuine interest in the topic.

Just like the media..there should be a place for the tabloids and the broadsheets here imho. Even the tabloid press ocassionally get it right!

I'd venture that TWO , UKWW and Netweather are more akin to the broadsheets,but sadly boards (weather forum) readership is closer to the red tops (they only visit when they hear a crazy weather forecast on the radio or a friend said ..) and as such us broadsheet readers should be more tolerent.

I enjoy the wild forecasts tbh. Reminds me of what got me interested in the weather and forces me to research and try to find the truth, most times the sensationalist headlines have a solid basis in fact, just not a solid interpretation! but none the less are interesting and often amusing.

Maybe a more velvet slipper approach is merited here lads? eg "WC youre forecast may have a large error range given the time frame involved..please make this clearer in your post !

I hope WC can restrain his lust for the coming Armaggedon every winter a little!.

WC - I'm ocassionally driven nutz by something I see on boards, heres what i do - hit reply, type all that I_REALLY_REALLY_WANNA_SAY...then ctrl + a then hit delete (hit preview if yer really annoyed so you see your rant in its properly formatted glory) and have to start typing again. Fact that its been ranted and written (but not posted) usually means its never so knee jerk second time..maybe give it a try

Strasser

Winter just would not be the same without weathercheck.

lucernarian

Longfield, I really hope that was posted in the feedback thread. I haven't read the thread yet but it's a jem of a post anyway. I hope everyone will pay attention to it.

WC needs to get less carried away. Age and a tempering of his passion (e.g going to college and eventually getting involved in meteorology properly) will solve any problems in that department. Oh, and he will have to keep dialogue with the moderators more civilised. And the moderators should respect him as one of the main contributors to the forum.

I've done some thinking. Weathercheck was hard done by in ways. This forum is not a circus, but it's not a Hurricane Advisory Centre either. If he makes a claim and posts a chart in his favour, then anyone who disagrees should provide something of their own to logically argue against it. At the same time, those that don't like exaggerations and drama should not be subjected to it constantly. No one likes their hopes or expectations at a bit of fun dashed when there was no proper chance anyway.

To be honest, we would be better off with a part of the Charter explaining how that this is an amateur board using publicly available tools with enthusiastic members. Hyperbole and inaccuracies may occur and this forum should not be used as a guide or as advice in times of danger to property or people.

The pinpoint clause (in stark contrast to the rest of the charter) needs surgery.

darkman2

Longfield wrote:

dm2, line spacing , paragraphs would be nice, my eyes bleed after decyphering your diatribe.

Do agree that a weather forum on a not weather bulliton board should have a little more leeway than a weather forum on a weather only board.

Many readers on the weather forum here are probably just passing though, unlike maybe TWO, Netweather, UKWW etc where they have a genuine interest in the topic.

Just like the media..there should be a place for the tabloids and the broadsheets here imho. Even the tabloid press ocassionally get it right!

I'd venture that TWO , UKWW and Netweather are more akin to the broadsheets,but sadly boards (weather forum) readership is closer to the red tops (they only visit when they hear a crazy weather forecast on the radio or a friend said ..) and as such us broadsheet readers should be more tolerent.

I enjoy the wild forecasts tbh. Reminds me of what got me interested in the weather and forces me to research and try to find the truth, most times the sensationalist headlines have a solid basis in fact, just not a solid interpretation! but none the less are interesting and often amusing.

Maybe a more velvet slipper approach is merited here lads? eg "WC youre forecast may have a large error range given the time frame involved..please make this clearer in your post !

I hope WC can restrain his lust for the coming Armaggedon every winter a little!.

WC - I'm ocassionally driven nutz by something I see on boards, heres what i do - hit reply, type all that I_REALLY_REALLY_WANNA_SAY...then ctrl + a then hit delete (hit preview if yer really annoyed so you see your rant in its properly formatted glory) and have to start typing again. Fact that its been ranted and written (but not posted) usually means its never so knee jerk second time..maybe give it a try

Longfield I have put alot of effort into making this board better over recent months but it has not worked. The charter needs to be changed and less restrictive. There is nothing more I can do and the fact you cant read my posts illustrates my frustration and anger at this board.

DapperGent

darkman2 wrote:

Longfield I have put alot of effort into making this board better over recent months but it has not worked. The charter needs to be changed and less restrictive. There is nothing more I can do and the fact you cant read my posts illustrates my frustration and anger at this board.

I'm bewildered as to how the board's charter effects your spelling, punctuation and grammer.

darkman2

DapperGent wrote:

I'm bewildered as to how the board's charter effects your spelling, punctuation and grammer.

Dappergent, I will not be bullied on this thread in any form. Keep your snide comments to yourself. I am angry at the charter and ive every right to be.

I dont know what it is but I have developed a dislike of yourself and Snowbie over the last couple of days due to the ineptitude and ill-judgement of your posts. You come across as trouble starters and Im not going to engage anyone with that attitude.

At the very least Snowbie's relpies to Weathercheck were provocative and uncalled for, as was your post just there. Show a bit of respect for those posting here. Were not all total imbeciles.

sirpsycho

100% agreed too.

A one month ban is too long also.

darkman2 wrote:

IMHO this board is over moderated and the charter should be reviewed. This is a weather forum. What the charter seems to suggest is dont bother forcasting, just put in whats going to happen. Sure thats not forcasting. Compared to other forums this board is way over regulated. Its suppose to a weather forum for goodness sake. It should be a place where newbies and pro's can make whatever forcasts they like regardless of whether it is right or wrong. It should be a fun board too, not a boot camp. A place where ppl can learn the various mechanisms of weather forcasting. Thats what forcasting is all about. Nothing any of us say here is ever 100% accurate. I really think there needs to be more latitude on the forum to encourage more people to get involved. Or else the board will remain relatively empty.

Valentia

DapperGent wrote:

I'm bewildered as to how the board's charter effects your spelling, punctuation and grammer.

Don't drop in here very often but it is windy out so I took a strool accross.

Can I just ask, is this a mod speaking? If so wow. Personal vindictive is banned most places I'm involved.

Excuses me for interfering. I'm off back to the cosy, warm calm of the Photography Forum.