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Why is Butterbean so Fat is he s a Fighter?

  • 06-07-2006 10:10am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭


    Why is that boxer, K1, MMA, guys Butterbean such a fat slob if he is a fighter?

    Like, I assume he is training, like most other fighters, conditioning, fight training, running etc?

    So how comes he's so fat, and not more in shape looking?

    This is a serious question too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭Miles Long


    If you've never seen him...
    butterbean_punch.jpg

    Making a guest appearance with The Pixies...
    pixies_070705_big.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭gstack


    lads whatever else he's doing , its certainly not running :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭Miles Long


    There must be method in his (obvious) madness. He wouldn't be where he is unless he was doing something right...

    ... but what.

    ... *goes off to find out what*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭Ph3n0m


    He is literally a one punch machine. He does train, but he also eats aswell (too well by the looks of it)

    He can be easily taken down by anyone with decent enough skills - but he always goes for the knock out punch and is known as a hard hitter. Thats how he gets by

    Butterbean gets his ass handed to him
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=butterbean&v=lthhFU0pXuc

    Butterbean knocks out some bloke
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkrYmBWth4&search=butterbean - just watch the final KO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    But remember lads.... fat butterbean, was still getting into the ring, and putting it up.... and you got to respect someone who is a doer as oppossed to a talker.

    So back to the question..assuming he is training... how come he is fat?

    Maybe he trains hard, eats healthy during the day , and throws about 10 pints into himself every evening??

    Your not a real man, unless you can drink 10 pints!!!!! LOL!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    So back to the question..assuming he is training... how come he is fat?

    WHo knows, maybe he has thyroid issues, maybe he is hypogondal, maybe he likes pies.

    Who cares?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭ShaneT


    Dragan wrote:
    ...maybe he likes pies.

    LMAO...

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭Miles Long


    He's a very oppertunistic fighter, the video vs. bart gunn shows him using a circular duck and a low left setup and a hard high right pretty much every time. It's be interesting to see him throwing mad combinations, or a kick?!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    I care! cause the way ist going, I might end up like a wee butterbean myself!LOL!

    Its a serious training/fitness question.... anyone speculate the reason...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    He is a bit like a DVD I got lats week, of ex Uk criminal and unlicensed boxer Roy Shaw....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    In boxing he only fought 4 rounds.. his cardio didn't have to be great and his body structure gave him that looping hand that knocked everyone clean out. It just so happens that money calls and he's tried his luck in K-1 and MMA. He beat Cabbage in MMA, although Cabbage dislocated his elbow before the fight. He also lost his first MMA fight to a 155lbs Genki Sudo by heelhook. Genki tried to dropkick Butterbean. Entertaining to watch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭Ph3n0m


    I care! cause the way ist going, I might end up like a wee butterbean myself!LOL!

    Its a serious training/fitness question.... anyone speculate the reason...


    Well then answer this - do you like pies? Then stop eating them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Nevermind, someone already posted the genki fight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭Miles Long


    There's a fair chance that he's that weight on purpose, as in he monitors and trains to stay (hilariously) big. You saw Genki Sudo hit him and stop. I wish I could get hit that hard and not move. I've always been skinny so I have no way of knowing but would a 10 inch layer of fat act as a protection of sorts?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    yeah...I looked at all his fights on youtube....

    maybe the smart business brains behind these fights, kept him in there for a few dollars for entertainment value. I mean... look how many people hit this thread with 10 mins of me posting.... ;-)

    Still he packs some wallop with that big overhand right swing.

    when i was training last year in www.fairtex.com they were boasting Mike Tyson was coming there to train in K1.... it never happened...but who did they get instead..... Jack Osbourne!!! LOL!!! He was there with Ozzy just the week before I came.

    Still ya got to hand it to Butterbean...he got into the ring and did it.

    I would love to see his training routine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    All we can do is speculate as to how he became (or always was) so fat. To me I always thought he was just a naturally big guy.

    And regarding his skills, he has an extremely impressive boxing record that speaks for itself. He is also very popular with the american public.

    Cabbage "dislocated his elbow", I seriously doubt it would have made a difference, I read somewhere that butterbean broke two of his ribs with body shots. And cabbage lost to Tank, doesn't say a lot.

    I want to see Butterbean vs. Tank!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Valmont wrote:
    Cabbage "dislocated his elbow", I seriously doubt it would have made a difference, I read somewhere that butterbean broke two of his ribs with body shots. And cabbage lost to Tank, doesn't say a lot.

    Actually, in a very strange twist of fate, Mick Plotcheck, who was the wrestler Bart Gunn that you see getting dropped by Butterbean in the posted Youtube video, is now doing MMA........

    and he recently beat Cabbage. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    up north a boy like Butterbean would be called...

    A big fat GULPIN !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    up north a boy like Butterbean would be called...

    A big fat GULPIN !

    Yeah, but then he'd just knock them out.

    Go the fat man!!!! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    He reminds me those short comedy clips "The Baldy Man", he had a stint in the WWE afaik.:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭Mola.mola


    Millionaire, the dude has a lot of body fat. End of story. I don't like this thread, it's stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    *hugs mola*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Ph3n0m wrote:
    Butterbean knocks out some bloke
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkrYmBWth4&search=butterbean - just watch the final KO

    wrestlemania 15!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    It's actually a sad story... he eats because he's unhappy, and he's unhappy because he eats...

    Mill,
    In answer to your original question, Butterbean is a one trick pony. He never had any designs on being a world champ over 12 rounds, he was a freak sell from the off and continues to be that to K1.

    Miles,
    LOL at the "technical" appreciation of Butterbean's style:D. I think you might be over analysing the guy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    In all honesty the dude he fought at the wrestlemania thing looked like it was his 2nd or 3rd fight. His guard was atrocious, his chin was miles in the air and deserved to be clobbard!

    Wrestlemania rules!! who remembers the first one? Hulk hogan body slamming Andre the Giant :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭Kent Brockman


    I believe he suffers from a common but very misunderstood condition known in the medical world as "Cake Retention":rolleyes:
    Now the serious stuff:
    In 1991 a 31 stone factory worker from Alabama entered Toughman, a televised street fighting competition - and won.

    Now down to a svelte 25 stone thanks largely to a butterbean diet, Eric Esch has made an estimated $1m from professional boxing.

    born 1968, 5ft 11in , Known as the "King of 4 rounders," Butterbean is a fighter who first emerged on the Toughman scene in America before entering the world of professional boxing in 1994.The majority of his opponents have been technically limited, club level fighters.

    However, he did face former world champion Larry Holmes in 2002. Holmes won a unanimous 10-round decision with Butterbean credited with a knockdown in the final round.

    Butterbean also fought Peter McNeeley, famous as a former Mike Tyson opponent, in Las Vegas in 1999. He stopped McNeeley in the first round.

    His record currently stands at Boxing 72 wins (54 KOs), 7 losses and four draws
    K-1 5 Fights 2 Wins 3 Losses 1 KO
    MMA 1 Fight 1 Loss

    Butterbean also appeared in the film Jackass: The Movie, where he fought Johnny Knoxville in a department store, where Knoxville was floored by Esch and received several stitches in his head after the encounter
    He has also appeared twice in WWE events competing in boxing matches: in 1997, at an In Your House pay-per-view, he defeated Marc Mero (who is a former boxer) via disqualification; two years later, at WrestleMania XV, he defeated Bart Gunn via knock out in about 30 seconds.

    To sum up: Big fat guy with head like bowling ball and 370lbs behind punch gets turned into wealthy freak show by crafty promoter! Jees i'm bored


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    However, he did face former world champion Larry Holmes in 2002. Holmes won a unanimous 10-round decision with Butterbean credited with a knockdown in the final round.

    Butterbean also fought Peter McNeeley, famous as a former Mike Tyson opponent, in Las Vegas in 1999. He stopped McNeeley in the first round.

    His record currently stands at Boxing 72 wins (54 KOs), 7 losses and four draws
    K-1 5 Fights 2 Wins 3 Losses 1 KO
    MMA 1 Fight 1 Loss


    This is the point...

    Look at this boxing record alone. 72 wins.... that is a serious amount of fights.

    If you getting into ring that much, you got to be doing a serious amount of training.

    What puzzels me, is why someone would still be so fat, if their training so much?

    Sure, I can see the value, of having a Butterbean type guy on any fight card.
    Freak shows draw the punters, and the money.

    anyway Butterbean is probably happy as a pig in ****e, wobbling all the way to the bank with his one million bucks.

    Yeah, I saw that Jack Ass clip.... i think the likes of that is taking.. boxing or whatever you call it... to the dregs of the earth.

    Those Toughman contests on TV used to be a good laugh. Big Tough Rednecks from places like Arkansas and the swaps of Florida, taking the head off each other. LOL!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    Roper wrote:
    Butterbean is a one trick pony. He never had any designs on being a world champ over 12 rounds, he was a freak sell from the off and continues to be that to K1.


    Thats exactly it. a bit of a circus trick for the crowd.

    All in All He got balls, getting into the ring!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭Miles Long


    Roper wrote:
    It's actually a sad story... he eats because he's unhappy, and he's unhappy because he eats...

    Mill,
    In answer to your original question, Butterbean is a one trick pony. He never had any designs on being a world champ over 12 rounds, he was a freak sell from the off and continues to be that to K1.

    Miles,
    LOL at the "technical" appreciation of Butterbean's style:D. I think you might be over analysing the guy!

    Albeit over-analysis, his punches are trained and really hard and I can't imagine he's a glassjaw, (mind you the only person I've ever seen hit him was Johnny Knoxville). Somewhere along the line somebody said, "Look, let's work with this guy and hone in his "one-trick"? (54 KO's FFS!)

    Who was his MMA fight against? What's mad is he, or his coach/promoter, sees him as having a generally applicable style...:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    Butterbean got a mean and powerful right hand...thats for sure!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    If you getting into ring that much, you got to be doing a serious amount of training.

    What puzzels me, is why someone would still be so fat, if their training so much?

    Mill, at the risk of sounding like i'm losing my patience, i imagine it is because he eats a lot.

    It's really that simple. Being fat does not impede his fighting to any great degree, if anything the weight behind the punches is simply adding to the knock out power.

    He is obviously comfortable enough with himself to not feel like he needs to be thin, or else he is just not happy with himself but has been unable to do anything about it.

    It's not complicated Boxer + Pies = Fat Boxer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    Dragan wrote:
    , i imagine it is because he eats a lot.



    It's not complicated Boxer + Pies = Fat Boxer.


    Right so maybe to put this another way.

    Boxer + Daily Hard Training + Running + Eat like a Pig = FAT FAT FAT

    So if training hard, and one is eating junk, pies etc..... you will still be fat...it does not automatically mean fit fighting shaped body.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    So if training hard, and one is eating junk, pies etc..... you will still be fat...it does not automatically mean fit fighting shaped body.

    Of course not, if your daily training gives you a calorific need of lets say 4500 calories, but you consume 7000+ a day your gonna gain weight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭Miles Long


    Dragan wrote:
    It's not complicated Boxer + Pies = Fat Boxer.

    Anything + Pies = Fat Anything :D

    I read that his diet was nothing but Butterbeans and Chicken in order to loose weight (420 - 400lbs) to compete in toughman.

    I have to say I like the whole non-conformaty of his way of taking on the boxing game. It doesn't have a condisending "Look even a fat guy can do it" or anything, he's not proving anyone wrong. It's just "Hey guys, I'm a boxer too." It's not like he's unaware of the fact that people think he's a joke. Does it affect him? No.

    You go Butterbean, you go.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    Miles Long wrote:
    I have to say I like the whole non-conformaty of his way of taking on the boxing game. It doesn't have a condisending "Look even a fat guy can do it" or anything, he's not proving anyone wrong. It's just "Hey guys, I'm a boxer too." It's not like he's unaware of the fact that people think he's a joke. Does it affect him? No.

    You go Butterbean, you go.:cool:

    I like that about him too.

    He's in there doing it, not worried he is not cut up like an athlete, not giving ideas he will be world champ, he's a fighter and he' s doing it, and making money.

    This beer is on my Big Lad! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I would love to see his daily diet and training routine....Whilst he floored Johnny Knoxville in Jackass, to be honest I still think he got off extremely lightly, can you imagine if Butterbean had really gotten a clean shot instead of knocking him to the floor almost straight away...very impressive boxing record, saw a mixed clip of his knockouts somewhere recently, very powerful guy. You'd have to be quite literally insane to go up against him as a skinny, completely untrained competitor!
    It's not complicated Boxer + Pies = Fat Boxer.

    Whoah, whoah!! Slow down, doctor :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭Miles Long



    Butterbean vs. Mike Bernado


    The two round guide to beating Butterbean. BB hits maybe three shots, none to the head. What a finish, Bernado really exploited the weaknesses in this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    I can't believe there's 2 pages on Butterbean's weight!

    Mill,
    I doubt his training regime is all that extensive. I'd say a great deal of time is spent keeping his weight UP!

    On that note, Ken Norton was a very lean heavyweight, and here was his average breakfast:
    "What would you have for breakfast?"
    "I would have nine eggs, seven pieces of bacon, eight pieces of toast, a bowl of cereal, two glasses of orange juice and two glasses of milk."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    Roper wrote:
    I'd say a great deal of time is spent keeping his weight UP!

    On that note, Ken Norton was a very lean heavyweight, and here was his average breakfast:
    "What would you have for breakfast?"
    "I would have nine eggs, seven pieces of bacon, eight pieces of toast, a bowl of cereal, two glasses of orange juice and two glasses of milk."

    LOL!

    Thats a nice sounding breakfast!

    That is some amount of eating there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭Mola.mola


    look at prop forwards. massive chest ands that odd belly too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭SorGan


    butterbean is fat because after a good win he goes back to his opponents house and eats his kids:D


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