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Bad neighbours - what to do?

  • 04-07-2006 12:48am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭


    Hi all
    this is a bit long-winded so please bear with me...over the last 12-18 months or so theres been a group of 6 or so Romanian men renting in the house next door to my parents. Every weekend they turn the house into party central from Friday till Sunday(this is why I mentioned their nationality, a lot of Eastern Europeans seem to do their drinking at home), the sing-songs etc starting as early as 2pm sometimes. My parents front garden is the path as far as they're concerned. The landlord lives another 2 houses up the road so my da has been up both to them next door and him on numerous occasions as you can imagine.
    Last Friday night I stayed over at their house and was awoken at 6am to the sound of some completely locked woman(Irish) screaming drunken crap from said house. The aul lad was on his way out to work and told her to shut up and was met with a fairly predictable barrage of abuse from her and some other bloke. He left and the noise kept up apparently(I fell back asleep). Later my ma told me that she confronted her and the woman threatened to burn out the cars outside our gaff amongst other things. :mad:
    My parents are both coming up to retirement age so this is obviously doing their heads in. Does anyone have any advice/experience on how we should approach sorting this out? I don't know if the cops would be interested as generally the problem is noise (altho they should be when threats like the one above are made), but its not safe IMO for a 62 year old man to be getting at odds with 6 drunks. The landlord doesnt care at all. Should my parents go to a solicitor about him not controlling his tenants etc(seem to remember some case last year or so on Northside in this vein), or is it just a case of 'sorry, time to move house?'
    Thanks in advance for any advice given, I would really appreciate it. I dont live even nearby so I feel pretty helpless TBH.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    I'd say your best bet is to ring the gardai, tell them about the noise and the threats, at the very least they'll have to send a car around to talk to the people, I don't know what good this'll do but its worth a shot. If you wan't to know what I would do, I'd get 10 or 12 of your biggest scarriest looking mates/family to knock around with you during the day time. Don't make any threats or anything like that just have the people with you stand in the garden looking scary and tell the neighbours to try to keep it down a bit and explain your situation to them. If it didn't get any better I'd put a shot threw thier front door. But I'd say maybe try the gaurds first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭StandnDeliver


    hmm noise pollution,threatening behaviour,i think you should document it or your parents should,also get a notebook and writedown times and dates of when the hastle starts.it will look alot better if u have this.How about citizens advice go along to them as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Best idea is to write it down so at least you'll have something to show instead of their word against yours. Its not acceptable in any case and especially if your folks have to live in fear after living there all their lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭bettlebrox


    I agree with the logbook idea. They need to start keeping track of all the goings-on next door. For the moment I don't think they should phone the Gardai next time there is noise (based on your description of the neighbours they could cause trouble when the Gardai leave). But, I think they should go down to the local Gardai station ASAP and ask the Gardai advise on what to do (this is where a log book is needed so they can show how troublesome the neighbours are). Plus, they should tell them about the threats.

    Another tack might also be to also phone the County Council, maybe with six people in the house the landlord could be gotten on Health or Safety violations? And talk to any local political representatives both local & national. It can't hurt and if they need to go to the courts it will show that your parents are not idle complainers and could help their case.

    Lastly, I'd go to a solicitor because I think courts should be the last action, and they (solicitors) bloody well cost so much!

    This bit probably isn't good advise, but depending on what the landlord is like, I'd start ringing him/her up everytime these party-animals wake me up. My attitude would be, if I can't sleep why should the fecker making money of them sleep either?

    Now a question. Do you think this carry-on would have continued happening if your parent's had phoned the Gardai the first time this happened? I'm just wondering if these lads think they can get away with it because nothing ever occurred over it? Have your parents tried talking to these lads or are they just too scary? Keep us posted on what happens as I'm sure it will be useful advise for us all. I hope all works out well in the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭jrey1981


    try the guards, but if that doesnt get through to them, you need to try something like slipss suggested.

    Sounds like an asbo case to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    Johnnycabs wrote:
    Hi all
    this is a bit long-winded so please bear with me...over the last 12-18 months or so theres been a group of 6 or so Romanian men renting in the house next door to my parents. Every weekend they turn the house into party central from Friday till Sunday(this is why I mentioned their nationality, a lot of Eastern Europeans seem to do their drinking at home), the sing-songs etc starting as early as 2pm sometimes. My parents front garden is the path as far as they're concerned. The landlord lives another 2 houses up the road so my da has been up both to them next door and him on numerous occasions as you can imagine.
    Last Friday night I stayed over at their house and was awoken at 6am to the sound of some completely locked woman(Irish) screaming drunken crap from said house. The aul lad was on his way out to work and told her to shut up and was met with a fairly predictable barrage of abuse from her and some other bloke. He left and the noise kept up apparently(I fell back asleep). Later my ma told me that she confronted her and the woman threatened to burn out the cars outside our gaff amongst other things. :mad:
    My parents are both coming up to retirement age so this is obviously doing their heads in. Does anyone have any advice/experience on how we should approach sorting this out? I don't know if the cops would be interested as generally the problem is noise (altho they should be when threats like the one above are made), but its not safe IMO for a 62 year old man to be getting at odds with 6 drunks. The landlord doesnt care at all. Should my parents go to a solicitor about him not controlling his tenants etc(seem to remember some case last year or so on Northside in this vein), or is it just a case of 'sorry, time to move house?'
    Thanks in advance for any advice given, I would really appreciate it. I dont live even nearby so I feel pretty helpless TBH.

    Had the exact same problem a few weeks back, the foreigners don't give two sh1ts. I called the police and was told it was a civil matter and that was the end of that, no help, no car, nothing. Made me sick. In the end I had to bombared the landlord with complaints till tehy where told to calmdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Create a log book, also talk to a solicitor after you have some material on what is going on and see about a nusance claim.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    They need to go to a solicitor. There is a provision under some act, I forget which - its something like an Environment Protection Act whereby you can bring people & the landlord to court for behavior like this. Its District Court stuff so its not too expensive to do. It can be quite effective I believe.

    There's not a hell of a lot the cops can do to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    http://www.oasis.gov.ie/environment/noise_regulations.html?search=noise

    Noise Regulations in Ireland
    Rules
    How to apply
    Where to apply
    Information
    Under Irish law, you are entitled to bring complaints about specific neighbourhood noise to the District Court.

    Types of noise covered
    Noise such as that coming from other homes, workshops or local businesses that is continuous, repeated, loud and occurring at such times and of such duration that it affects the quality of life of the person is covered in Irish law.

    The law in Ireland governing this area is (Section 108) of the Environmental Protection Agency Act 1992 and the Environmental Protection Agency Act (Noise) Regulations 1994 (SI No. 179 of 1994). While the law does not specifically mention an exact level or standard of noise that is illegal, it is clear that if neighbourhood noise is affecting the quality of life of a citizen, then you have a right to complain. Your local authority has the power to investigate complaints about neighbourhood noise and also has specialist equipment that measures levels of sound.

    A European standard for external intruder alarms replaced all current national standards in September, 2003. The new standard incorporates stricter controls regarding minimum and maximum duration for the sounding of alarms. The new limits are 90 seconds minimum and 15 minutes maximum. However, the new controls only apply to alarms fitted from September, 2003.

    Rules
    Making a complaint
    You should approach the person or business causing the noise and explain that it is a nuisance and try to come to a mutually acceptable solution. If this does not work, your local authority has the same power as individuals to bring noise complaints to the District Court. In addition, local authorities have similar powers to the Environmental Protection Agency in relation to premises, processes and works other than those that require licensing under the Environmental Protection Agency Act. The Environmental Protection Agency can require the person or body to take specific measures to prevent or limit noise. Anyone required to take such specific measures by the Environmental Protection Agency must do so or face prosecution.

    If you wish to make a complaint to the District Court, you are not required to be represented by a solicitor, however, you may engage the assistance of a solicitor to help prepare your noise complaint and present this in court. You should consult with the Clerk of your local District Court about an appointment for the hearing of your case and refer precisely to the law relating to your case (Section 108 of the Environmental Protection Agency Act 1992 and the Environmental Protection Agency Act 1992 (Noise) Regulations 1994 (SI No. 179 of 1994).

    The appointment for the hearing of your case must be at least 7 days later than the date on which you inform the person responsible for the noise nuisance that you will be taking your case to court. You must use a Environmental Protection Agency Act, 1992 - noise form of notice to inform the person or business that you will be taking them to court. It is important that you use this form of notice only and that you complete it fully and accurately.

    The District Court will call both parties together and listens to both sides of the case. If the court finds in your favour, it can order the person or body to limit the noise, reduce the level of noise or stop the noise completely. Any Orders made by the court must be complied with.

    Penalties for breach of law
    The maximum fine for conviction on breach of noise regulations is 3,000 euro or 12 months in prison or both.

    How to apply
    Approach the person or business responsible for the noise and try to reach a mutually acceptable solution. You may find that they were not aware of the nuisance and in most cases, this will resolve the problem.

    If you have tried to resolve the problem amicably and this has not worked, you may then refer your complaint to your local authority, or you can take your complaint directly to your local District Court or the Environmental Protection Authority.

    Complaints regarding aircraft noise should be made directly to the Irish Aviation Authority.

    Where to apply
    Environmental Protection Agency
    P.O. Box 3000,
    Johnstown Castle Estate
    Co. Wexford.
    Tel: (053) 60600
    Fax: (053) 60699
    E-mail: info@epa.ie



    I would say if you point this out to the landlord, he'll sort them out pretty quick. you DONT have to put up with this.

    good luck,
    tbh


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Johnnycabs wrote:
    The landlord doesnt care at all.

    Could your Da go and get the landlord out of bed everytime this happens, no matter what hour of the morning it is? I'm guessing that once this starts to interfer with the landlords sleep on a regular basis, he might do something.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,400 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Nice one tbh! Good reading there. I would be careful about waking the landlord every time you are woken as this could backfire and your parents could end up in court for harrassment :rolleyes:

    It is a good idea if your parents have an unregistered pre-pay mobile to call the landlords number every time they are woken and then he will hear the noise too. He may not get whats's happening initially but pretty soon he will understand that every time the Eastern Europeans party he gets a phone call from an unidentifiable number.

    He may act then.

    First step is to have a word with the landlord and ask him to accompany you to the tenants house to discuss the matter with them. Perhaps they can party in other peoples houses for a few weeks. Make a not of all reasonable suggestions you make and contacts with the landlord and tenants and their responses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,568 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Maximilian wrote:
    There's not a hell of a lot the cops can do to be honest.
    Get this...a friend of mine is a guard and is married to another guard. They live out in Lucan. The house next door is rented to Brazillians and as the OP said, it's party central every weekend complete with samba drums and cowbells.

    Now if they can't do anything, I think you're even in a worse position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,228 ✭✭✭Scruff


    check that he is registered with the Private Residential Tenancies Board. If not it may be a stick you can beat him with for tax dodging


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Emmo


    Is the landlord paying tax on the rent?

    If not explain to him that if you have to have issues with his tenants then the Revenue Commisioners might find out that they are paying income on which no tax is being paid.

    Emmo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Emmo


    SNAP Scruff, great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ.

    Emmo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Globe


    This happened to my Mum also, 70 years old living on her own and everytime there was a party she called the landlord and the gardai a few times and eventually they moved out, landlord got sick of the hassle and didn't renew the lease.

    Good luck with this I know what a nightmare it is, hope it works out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Quatre Mains


    Hello again everyone
    I just wanted to say thanks a mill for all the replies. I was so wound up after writing that last night I ended up getting about 2 hours kip before work today, but you have given me plenty of constructive ideas on how to tackle the problem.

    Cheers
    Neil


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Nina_Angelica


    one thing that constantly annoyed me when living in ireland is the lack of response from the guards.

    they have so little authority it's ridiculous. why shouldn't they be able to issue a fine of some sort if some idiot's are making craploads of noise?!

    there should be some way of enforcing noise rules and regulations that's instantaneous. after the fact it all seems sort of moot, doesn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭dubtom


    I look after a lot of properties including houses with up to eight units in them. It is the landlords repsonsibilty to sort this out.If he won't listen to you try and get more neighbours to get behind you. It's very simply sorted on his part, a verbal, then written warning to the tennants, if they continue to create the disturbance he has grounds to evict them. I find usually that tennants are not keen on being removed from their home and most will comply with a landlord who threatens eviction over bad behaviour. I would not under any circumstances try and sort this yourself, the bad boys in the garden IMHO is a bad suggestion, unless you want an all out war on your hands with drunken romanians.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,568 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    there should be some way of enforcing noise rules and regulations that's instantaneous. after the fact it all seems sort of moot, doesn't it?
    Would ASBOs work in this country do you think?

    Or maybe some way of licencing landlords?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Nina_Angelica


    excuse my ignorance but ASBO stands for?

    licensing landlords to give a fine, is it? might be an idea...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,568 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    excuse my ignorance but ASBO stands for?
    Anti-Social Behaviour Order. Google "ASBO UK" and you'll see what I mean.
    licensing landlords to give a fine, is it? might be an idea...
    Perhaps. I was thinking more along the lines of requiring a licence in order to rent investment property. If you don't take care of troublesome tennents, then your licence is revoked and you won't be allowed to rent the property anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Nina_Angelica


    gotcha.

    tbh, i'm not sure if ASBO would work. i think it would depend on what kind of rules/guidelines were introduced and the reasonability of said rules/guidelines.

    i think it *could* work provided you have landlords and local authorities combined efforts to enforce the rules, but i think that the local community would need to have a say in what's acceptable/not acceptable as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    sure you will just get the racist card pulled:mad: :mad: :mad: :( , you should try to have a bigger, louder,brighter,wilder,sleezier party than them..i am talking fireworks, heavy metal, too much booze etc strippers and the like they defo wont like that!!!:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,568 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    kona wrote:
    sure you will just get the racist card pulled:mad: :mad: :mad: :( , you should try to have a bigger, louder,brighter,wilder,sleezier party than them..i am talking fireworks, heavy metal, too much booze etc strippers and the like they defo wont like that!!!:cool:
    And the trick would be to hold it around 8am while they are just starting to doze off and nurse hangovers.

    Nothing illegal about playing 'The Ace of Spades' with your hi-fi amp cranked to 11 at 8am, nice and legal, even on a Sunday, but if you do it after 9pm, that's another story.

    I could even lend you some Napalm Death CD's for the ocassion.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,661 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Have read and been involved with plenty of scenarios like this. The gardai are powerless to do anything. Taking someone to court is tricky and longwinded (and pointless if they are foreign nationals)

    I really think at this stage, people, community, neightbours should get together and lobby TD's to get the law changed so we have something similar to what the UK has. (Noise inspectors on the local councils)

    Noise neighbours are one of the worst thing we have to put up with in 2006 Ireland. People need to take a stand TOGETHER.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Brian Capture


    slipss wrote:
    If you wan't to know what I would do, I'd get 10 or 12 of your biggest scarriest looking mates/family to knock around with you during the day time.

    Hard man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    buy a small bag of cocaine. Buy a couple of boxes of chalk. cut the chalk into powder and mix it in with the coke. Stick it in a bag. Put it in the neighbours backgarden. Ring crimestoppers/your local station annonumously(sp?) and thell them theres a stash of cocaine in the back garden.

    If the cops test it they will find elements of coke. they wont care how much coke is actually in it. They will claim the weight and give some over-hyped street value.

    Mightnt work, but sure why not give it a try?


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    ^^^ someone's been taking lessons from the lads up in Donegal.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    haha. Its no shotgun but it might do a job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭loopyloulou


    My friend was in a similar situation up until last week! There were 5 Polish lads living next door and they were making noise at all hours of the morning, opening and closing doors constantly when there was no need to. They have a two year old so her boyfriend went in to ask them to keep it down a couple of times, he was nice about it but one of the times they all came out to the door and surrounded him, didnt touch him but after that they were mentally intimidated for 5 months. They used to stand in their front garden drinking and looking in the window and act like they were putting a gun to their heads while looking at her fella. They went to the guards, the letting agent, their local TD, the landlords father (as she was living in England and he was looking after it for her). Eventually the landlord had to fly in from England and it was only after speaking to my friend that she realised how bad it actually was. They were evicted last week which is all well and good but the effect its had on them is awful. My friend is skin and bone shes lost so much weight and her boyfriend thought he was going mad because a lot of the time the noise only happend when he was in the house and stopped when my friend got home. He was actually getting other neighbours into the house to make sure they could hear it and that he wasnt going mad!!!
    I think its all very well saying get a big gang up to threaten them, but they can go home at the end of the day, the people who live there will have to deal with the consequences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭samo


    My sympathies really go out to people putting up with this, have had similar problems over the past few months with about 10 lithuanians in rented house next door. Despite the fact the letting agency told me they were in breach of contract as house was only meant to be rented to 4 they still didnt do anything.

    What seemed to do the trick was a 4 page letter I sent to both documenting every single disturbance over a 2 month period and also sent it to the PRTB (unbelievably it costs 25 euro to register a 3rd party complaint) who I assume are also now chasing the landlord to enforce registration. Like you say the landlord didnt really seem bothered once the rent keeps rolling in but things have gone alot quieter now and hopefully he wont re-new their lease.

    I had tried ringing him every time it happened but just kept getting fobbed off and a reply to 'call the guards' but they are his responsibility at the end of the day. I think it was when everyhting was written down that it took a bit more of an effect.

    Someone on boards once suggested videorecording any disturbances that happen esp if the noise is very loud in their house and this isnt a bad idea either as backs up any written evidence as further proof. The PRTB website www.prtb.ie has further info about making a complaint and reporting non registered tenancies.

    Really hope it works out well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    1. Keep a log book. Everything that happens - brief details and time. This may come in very handy later.

    2. Get the landlord's number. Ring him when they're creating a disturbance. EVERY SINGLE TIME. It's 4am? Ring him! They quietened down but are noisy again? Ring him!

    3. Ring your local Garda station when they are acting the bollox altogether (i.e. between midnight and 8am). EVERY SINGLE TIME. There was a thread recently - in the Property board I think - detailing the laws under which the Gardai HAVE to act.

    4. Check the Tenancies Board's website - www.prtb.ie There is a database here with all the registered addresses. Search for your street etc. and see if the rented address is registered - as is legally required. If not, email them and they will send you a form to report the landlord. If you have had no luck ringing him, I suggest waving this under his nose. If he still does nothing, send it in!

    5. Find out who your local councillor and TD are. Ring/meet them - repeatedly.

    6. Get your neighbours to do the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 krungtep


    interesting stuff here on noisy neighbours...my situation is the reverse..im a local authority tenant..live alone..im 72. i dont make noise or nuisance for my neighbours.my family hav lived here since 1953. a guy, elderly, tradesman with big white van bought the house next door. he lives there alone. from the day he arrived he ignored me...no problem abt that. but since he arrived he has complained abt the tv noise, the hedges not being cut, and other "noises" coming from my house. i sorted the tv noise and had the hedges cut as required. he is now constantanly complaining abt a hammering and dragging noise from my upstairs back bedroom...i eventually called to him to discuss the matter...he had sent me a solicitors letter abt the alleged noise. we agreed that if it occured again i wud call to him and we would investigate the matter..i did and he was agressive to me and didnt want to discuss the issue..i reported him to the guardai for harrasment..they advice that if it happened again to call and they wud hav a chat with him...now he is back complaining again abt the "noise" emenating from my upstairs bedroom...actrually i think the guy is a littel schzito...any suggestions..please!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 krungtep


    thanks..interestring.....this is a different situation..its the private resident who is harassing me...false complaints about noise etc..mad stuff..im a local authority tenant..waht rights do i hav..charge him with ASBO!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    I'm confused Krungtep. Who is your second post a reply too? The thread is 7 years old.

    Why not just make the noises the guy is complaining about. Then after 2 weeks tell him you can make it stop if he stops making false accusations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Fishyfreak


    How about a sign:

    simpsons+bad+neighbors.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    krungtep wrote: »
    actrually i think the guy is a littel schzito...any suggestions..please!

    Schizo enough that he would reply to his own posts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    tin79 wrote: »
    Schizo enough that he would reply to his own posts?

    There was a post that was deleted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    7 years ago?! Holy crap.

    Marty we're going back

    Back where Doc?

    Great Scott Marty, back to the future!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    tin79 wrote: »
    Schizo enough that he would reply to his own posts?

    I put up a post in reply to the OP, then noticed the OP was 2006 and deleted it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    infosys wrote: »
    I put up a post in reply to the OP, then noticed the OP was 2006 and deleted it.

    Its all crystal clear now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    I really thought somebody had just urged the OP to ring the Gardaí and claim there's a blonde, blue eyed child living in the house.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭princess 11


    Hi everyone i was wondering could anybody help me i dont know where to start i live in rented accomadation in the same house for 9 years .I have a 3 year old child.I live a quiet life due to depression and i am currently on treatment for a brain tumour .A while ago the council moved someone in next door to me and my life is not worth living.The house is attached to me and you can hear everything walls are like cardboard.Constant drinking sessions with no music running up and down stairs slamming doors and flushing the ensuite right behind my bedroom door television blaring so loud i can hear it in every room in the house.My child is being constantly woke up now shes tired and cranky not her usual bubbly self .she has been late to playschool numerous times because were up all night.Im a lone parent i dont have family to stick up for me because i took members of my family for abuse to court years ago.They know this.I have already asked her to keep it down and its gotten worse.My health is getting worse i cry almost every day and went to the doctor because my hair is falling out he said its due to stress.I have looked for other accomadation but there has been nothing within my budget for months.I dread coming home anymore to this hell and they going around laughing around the town falling out of pubs. Im so angry these people have driven me out of my own home away from my lovely neighbours and my childs friends.Please can anyone offer me advice im dreading another weekend coming up i feel like im cracking up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 krungtep


    im not a schitzo.. at least not unless im hearing the "noises" too..LOL
    nooo its getting use to thei site...not the easiest to op....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 krungtep


    wow sounds like a hell on earth..i presume u have tried all the usual remedies..gardai, landlord rental board, citizens advice etc etc..not having family to suport you is massive headache..do u hav any firends u can go and stay with even for a weekend for a rest ?
    if ur seriously isolated ..no family or friends that can help we might b able to let u crash here..quiet peacful house ..large spare bedroom..dublin 11, for a weekend on /off...just a thought...in any event keep reaching out and u will connect with a source of healp...take care...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 krungtep


    jus for interest..i havee 2 romanian families, not romany gypsies, living next door to me and the other across the road. they are the most civilised , friendly and helpful neighbours i ever had..not like some of the native irish head bangers i hav had to tolerate in the past..so dont let the race thing get in your way..just treat them as bad neighbours. i lived in kildare in 1974 and a family of irish travellers bought the house next door..within 12 months i had to move out..living beside dogs and head hunting savages wud have been preferable!!
    the prob with these type of people is that they dont regard the law etc in the way we do..its not a conscious thing..they just dont think respect/peace/consideration as we do..its a different culture...understand that and you can hav a good chance of beating them at their own game...u hav to know your enemy to b able to defeat him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭mikeym


    Im so glad I dont live near any loud annoying folk who love to party hard.

    Hope the gardai sorted out the noisey neighbours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭madamab


    I have a sort of similar problem. I live next door to a Romanian family , A set of parents , 2 young girls - An older man and an older woman and about 5 young unsavoury looking lads. The house is not extended so is 2 up 2 down . They are weird , such as the kids will be let into the garden first thing in the morning and there will be blood curdling , death wrenching screams , this is not normal kids screaming it would wake the dead. Last year my son doing his leaving cert was crying in his room he was so stressed. I asked them to stop , they dont care. They went away both years for the month of August and this year a new gang of youngsters moved in. My partner rang the landlord and advised him that we dont know who we are living beside and our neighbours have actually asked this of us. The main tenant the Father of the kids works for the landlord and it is like car and van city next door. In the early days they just parked in front of our drive but now they no longer do. They take up whole paths with vans and cars and only recently after one of the vans being fully parked on a path on a corner my son nearly hit a cyclist as it was in such a blind spot. It took several emails to the landlord to get it moved. Most of the friends and tenants have Audis and the main tenant has a year old Audi jeep probably worth about 70k so I cannot understand if they spend so much money on cars how they would not rent a 4 bed house which is what they require for the ten people that live there. I looked out my landing window one evening to see what was the noise and a group of men standing in a circle in the back garden with cans and smoking roared up at me. They have a pizza oven in the back and my partner has complained that when they are using this or a bbq that they have the decency to inform us so that we can shut our skylights in the kitchen or take in our washing from the line. This has yet to be done. One of the visitors also in an Audi has an out of date insurance disc Feb 2016 and up til a month ago when I saw this vehicle it was still out of date. There is now a car outside their house with another out of date insurance disc albeit 10/16. The house is not registered as a rental property though the landlord has is registered business address here so perhaps they are down as care takers. The landlord really doesnt care at all. The people the other side are foreign nationals also but so quiet and lovely and there is no trouble. I am thinking that there must be something can be done about the overcrowding in the house particularly that there are 2 children living there. Does anyone have any thoughts on this. It would be nice to know exactly who one lived beside! Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Only the landlord can sort it out unfortunately. The police usually don't get involved in this sort of thing.


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