Boards Hip-Hop WC 2006

spacecoyote

Since World Cup Fever Has hit, how about running our own version of it on this Forum?

Leave it open for a week for people to nominate rappers who they think should be in. Once theres 32 rappers nominated to choose from, I'll set up 8 groups, from those listed, and people can vote each day for who should win each match-up etc... and on through to knock-outs and the rest.

Think it should be limited to a max of 3-4 MCs per person, just to get a broader variety of people into it.

People up for it???

I'll put forward Pharoahe Monche, KRS-One & the GZA to get things started

me and the biz

Kool G Rap, Common, Aesop Rock, Styles P

Beefeater

Wordsworth, Immortal Technique, Saul Williams, Lif

Sajan

Doom, Chali 2Na, Guru, Black Thought

Ay Cee

Vinny Paz, Apathy, Redman, Rakim

Orizio

Ras Kass,Nas,One Be Lo and J-Live.

Nice idea btw.

Makaveli

CL Smooth, Masta Ace, Ghostface Killah, Biggie

Sm0ke

jay Z, busta rhymes, 50 cent (wanna see him beat and abused ), eminem

spacecoyote

Right had 31, so i've added Mos Def to the list to complete the line up.

Groups are as follows:
Group A
Pharoahe Monch
Immortal Technique
Apathy
Masta Ace

Group B
KRS-One
Saul Williams
Redman
Ghostface

Group C
GZA
Mr Lif
Rakim
Notorious BIG

Group D
Kool G Rap
MF Doom
Ras Kass
Jay Z

Group E
Common
Chali 2na
Nas
Busta Rhymes

Group F
Aesop Rock
Guru
One Be Lo
50 Cent

Group G
Styles P
Black Thought
J-Live
Eminem

Group H
Wordsworth
Vinny Paz
CL Smooth
Mos Def

Right Thats the groups listed. If anyone is wondering how i did it, i just wrote down the list of artists and wrote a-h beside each name in a row till i got to the end (just so theres no accusations about group set ups).

First Fixtures to follow, one vote per person per match-up and matches are open for voting for 24 hours.

spacecoyote

Might as well keep it in line with the WC so for the first day theres 2 fixtures, then 3 a day for rest of group stage. So today its:

Pharoahe Monch vs Immortal Technique

Apathy vs Masta Ace

Let the Voting Begin

spacecoyote

Gonna vote for Pharoahe my self in the 1st one (orkanised Konfusion were excellent and Internal Affairs is a monster solo effort).

And Masta Ace in the 2nd. Apathy is pretty impressive and i like what i've heard of the demigodz but masta ace is a legend, great flow and delivery and some killer lines. Disposable arts is a classic.

(No need for explanations in general people, if you just wanna list your winners thats fine)

Orizio

Monch purely for his insane brilliance with the painfully overlooked Organised Konfusion.

Masta Ace is one of the easiest MC's to listen to,great beat selection and could lyrical concepts.

Beefeater

Has to Technique in the first. After his next 2 albums i say will be looked upon as a legend.
Masta Ace in the second.Outside bet to go far. Sure hes always played the underdog.

Beefeater

oh yeah, can there be draws???

spacecoyote

Beefeater wrote:

oh yeah, can there be draws???

Well each person has to pick a winner only in each match. if an equal number of votes are cast then the match is a draw yeah

spacecoyote

Pharoah Monche 2-1 Immortal Technique

Apathy 0-3 Masta Ace

spacecoyote

KRS-One vs Saul Williams

Redman vs Ghostface Killah

Gza vs Mr Lif

spacecoyote

I'll go with KRS in the 1st one here, consistently influential for 20 years.

Ghostface in the 2nd, Ironman is a classic, and part of one of the greatest hip-hop dynasties

and again GZA in the 3rd, Lif is class, its actually a nightmare group this one, all four MCs are very strong in it. But Liquid Swords is definitely in my top albums ever list.

Beefeater

Saul in the 1st. maybe hes a poet rightly but f*ckit hes amazing.
Redman in the second. His first 2/3 albums are classic.
3rd is ver tough. Group of death along with H. I'll go with GZA, just about.

me and the biz

KRS-One vs Saul Williams

Redman vs Ghostface Killah

Gza vs Mr Lif

Krs easily

Ghostface.... this one was a tough one but my vote goes to ghostface. Single-handedly keeping the wu name alive whereas Reggie has been MIA for a while. my favourite redman lp vs fav ghostface, ghostface wins

Gza vs Lif

vote goes to Lif, because I love his style, and the production on all his releases. GZA has liquid swords, but thats 11 years ago now, hasnt even come close since.

David19

KRS, Ghostface and GZA for me. They're just better rappers and have all released at least one real classic album.

Makaveli

KRS in the first. Saul Williams really doesn't come close to the BDP era KRS-One.

Ghostface in the second. Ironman is a classic, and Supreme Clientele is one of the most underrated albums ever. Redman is good but not as good.

GZA - Mr Lif is tough one. GZA has Liquid Swords and it's a classic (also Enter the Wu-Tang), but Beneath the Surface and Legend of the Liquid Swords aren't that great. Mr Lif has just consistently released quality albums and his Perceptionists work is great too. Mr Lif it is in the third.

spacecoyote

KRS-1 4-1 Saul Williams

Redman 1-4 Ghostface Killah

GZA 3-2 Mr Lif

spacecoyote

Some more toughies today

Rakim vs Notorius BIG

Kool G Rap vs MF Doom

Ras Kass vs Jay Z

spacecoyote

These matches are all really close calls to me.

I think Rakim just edges it, by a hair in the first. Ready to die is a classic and biggie was amazing on the mic, but rakim has multiple classic albums and has had a much greater influence on Hip Hop imo.

going to go with Doom in the second. I think Hip-hop needs people like him putting out some amazing alternative stuff. Again Kool is excellent but Doom just edges it.

In the final round I'm going to go with Ras Kass, aside from reasonable doubt i'm not really a big fan of Jay Z's stuff and he has released some real clangers. Ras Kass is one of the top lyricists round at the moment and possible ever.

Beefeater

Rakim in the 1st. His influence is almost unparalleled.
Doom in the 2nd. hes very important for hip hop at the moment.
this is tough as ive not actually heard any kass albums but he is a good emcee. Reasonable doubt is the only time jigga touched magnificence. Goes to Kass

me and the biz

Rakim in the first, very few would even come close to his influence.

g Rap in the second, he's a legend, influenced so many as well. Doom though... he's so original and has crazy concepts. Nah vote = Kool G Rap

Jay-Z in the third. "CEO of Hip Hop" in that hewlett Packard ad says it all

Makaveli

Rakim. Legend enough said.
MF Doom. Second to none at the moment imo.
Jay-Z. Reasonable Doubt is a really good album. Ras Kass may be a better lyricist (well he is) but I prefer Jay-Z (choosing to ignore his crap).

spacecoyote

Rakim 4-0 Notorius BIG

Kool G Rap 1-3 MF Doom

Ras Kass 2-2 Jay Z

spacecoyote

Common vs Chali 2na

Nas vs Busta Rhymes

Aesop Rock vs Guru

spacecoyote

I won't be logged on most likely at the weekend so here are the saturday & sunday matches

Day 5

One Be Lo vs 50 Cent

Styles P vs Black Thought

J-Live vs Eminem

Day 6

Wordsworth vs Vinny Paz

CL Smooth vs Mos Def

Pharoah Monche vs Apathy