The Hazards of Belief

Turtwig

robindch wrote: »

The catholic church in Dublin is "close to collapse":

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0817/church.html?RTEMAILID

Street party, anybody?

How is this a hazard?:D:p

robindch

Um, hazardous to believers?

Turtwig

robindch wrote: »

Um, hazardous to believers?

How? It's good for them in the long run.:)

Dades

Malty_T wrote: »

How is this a hazard?:D:p

Maybe they'll bow out David Koresh style. :pac:

amacachi

biko wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC21AjzuRHY

To hear the sister speak so calmly about going to hospital and needing to bring a pot is one of those things that just gets to me. A kid in that situation should be practically hysterical, they shouldn't be so exposed to that kind of stuff so much that they can almost take it in their stride.

kylith

amacachi wrote: »

To hear the sister speak so calmly about going to hospital and needing to bring a pot is one of those things that just gets to me. A kid in that situation should be practically hysterical, they shouldn't be so exposed to that kind of stuff so much that they can almost take it in their stride.

And the authors only worried about if they were going to be blamed... Despicable.

robindch

Ratzinger spreading some peace and love in Spain:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14568707

Galvasean

robindch wrote: »

Ratzinger spreading some peace and love in Spain:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14568707

Let's see the leader of the biggest kiddy-fiddling cover up (most likely) ever attending World Youth Day. This does not satisfy my logic circuits...

Penn

Went into Easons today, looking for Penn Jillette's book "God, No"

Me: Excuse me, I'm looking for a book called "God, No"
*woman behind till looks at me strangely*
Me: The authors name is Penn Jillette
Her: No, we definitely don't have that (she says without even looking)

You'd swear I asked for "How to blow up the world with a homemade bomb"

Buddah

Barrington wrote: »

Went into Easons today, looking for Penn Jillette's book "God, No"

Me: Excuse me, I'm looking for a book called "God, No"
*woman behind till looks at me strangely*
Me: The authors name is Penn Jillette
Her: No, we definitely don't have that (she says without even looking)

You'd swear I asked for "How to blow up the world with a homemade bomb"

Regarding Paedophiliacs Sanctury International (RCC) I despair. I mentioned to my nurse that I was an Atheist. She paled. "Jesus will help you", she cried, "just ask him". "I did" I told her honestly, "Jesus, give me a break" I asked in desperation and he did". I fell over and broke my femur.

Looking back at the post about the poor man walking into the lions den and being killed, similar happened in the 80s I think, in Windsor Park. Man reading from bible walked towards lions. They ate him. But think about it? Jesus, so called Son of this great God called out to his dad when nailed to a cross. "Father, why have you foresaken me?". If the Sky Fairy is not going to help his son, he is hardly going to give a toss for the rest of us, is he.

I have a picture in my head of God sitting on a cloud looking at us and saying "I should have stuck with the dinosaurs".

robroy1234

The dinosaurs killed each other off - the Tyrannisaurus Rex believed in the divine right of kings...

The Mad Hatter

Barrington wrote: »

Went into Easons today, looking for Penn Jillette's book "God, No"

Me: Excuse me, I'm looking for a book called "God, No"
*woman behind till looks at me strangely*
Me: The authors name is Penn Jillette
Her: No, we definitely don't have that (she says without even looking)

You'd swear I asked for "How to blow up the world with a homemade bomb"

In fairness, you can't really expect the staff at Eason to know a whole lot about books.

Buddah

robroy1234 wrote: »

The dinosaurs killed each other off - the Tyrannisaurus Rex believed in the divine right of kings...

No Robroy, that was men. You are confused. Tyrannosaurus Rex (Rexes Rexi?) were struck from the heavens with a huge stone thrown by an angry God when they chose their first King. He was named Bertie The Brief.

robroy1234

Buddah - how dare you contradict me when I am anthromorphising (whatever that is) dinosaurs, or any other creature. Thats beside the difficulty of attributing animalistic qualities to man - my wife often refers to me as an animal - i.e. dog, pig, goat, flea...and not in the manner that is flattering.

Bertie the Brief - wasn't he the former Taoiseach...?

Buddah

robroy1234 wrote: »

Buddah - how dare you contradict me when I am anthromorphising (whatever that is) dinosaurs, or any other creature. Thats beside the difficulty of attributing animalistic qualities to man - my wife often refers to me as an animal - i.e. dog, pig, goat, flea...and not in the manner that is flattering.

Bertie the Brief - wasn't he the former Taoiseach...?

No, robroy, you err. Bertie the Brief was King of the World and was a giant of a beast. You are thinking of Bertie the Banker, (some historians claim the first letter of Banker is an error). Bertie the Banker was a small crawling creature, very much like Gollum, seeking always the Precious, but with the gift of the Chamelion. He reigned for three centuries and then sailed off into the sunset with all the riches of the small land he had raped and pillaged leaving behind those lieutenents whom he disliked and knew would soon fall to defeat. The Sky Fairy was much pleased with Bertie the Banker for his prowess and cried "Thus did I choose rightly that Men should rule this world. Animals, nothing but animals are men and nothing but animals, be they dog, pig goat or flea, as long as they are male can bring this globe of shame to ashes. T'was a day of madness when I created the Earth. Beware, all you beings of my creation, even I, despite my omnipotence, can over estimate my abilities".

mikhail

Buddah wrote: »

... You are thinking of Bertie the Banker, (some historians claim the first letter of Banker is an error)...

Definitely. There's strong documentary evidence that he hated bankers, and would have nothing to do with them or their institutions. A man before his time, in some ways.

Delirium

Michele Bachmann says God sent Hurricane Irene to tell politicians to cut government spending.

Joining such distinguished public policy thinkers as Pat Robertson and birther evangelist Joseph Farah in seeing divine political interference in natural disasters, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) said yesterday that Hurricane Irene was a message from God. Speaking Sarasota, Florida, Bachmann suggested God used the hurricane and last week’s earthquake to tell politicians to cut spending, the St. Petersburg Times reports:

“I don’t know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We’ve had an earthquake; we’ve had a hurricane. He said, ‘Are you going to start listening to me here?’ Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we’ve got to rein in the spending.”

Source

token56

koth wrote: »

Michele Bachmann says God sent Hurricane Irene to tell politicians to cut government spending.

If they are direct quotes it defies belief that someone like that is allowed to hold any position of power let alone run for the presidency of one of the most powerful countries in the world.

robroy1234

Michele Bachmann says God sent Hurricane Irene to tell politicians to cut government spending

Well thats great - just leave the mess and not clean up afterwards. That is not very thoughtful of God - sending messages such as an earthquake and a hurricane just to say Cut Government Spending causing a lot of mess and damage...

Genghiz Cohen

robroy1234 wrote: »

Michele Bachmann says God sent Hurricane Irene to tell politicians to cut government spending

Well thats great - just leave the mess and not clean up afterwards. That is not very thoughtful of God - sending messages such as an earthquake and a hurricane just to say Cut Government Spending causing a lot of mess and damage...

That the government has to pay to clean up...

Turtwig

The terrifying thing though about these elections is the idea that candidates can be asked questions on these issues give totally stupid and ignorant answers that are deemed wholly appropriate to their supporters. Honestly, I seriously doubt these guys will even have a modicum of intellect towards solving financials crises and whatever other crises come their way. The lack of intellect is truly frightening but that should be ok, the problem is that rational thinking and rational discussion is gone out the window. A society based on populist views is one of my biggest fears.

robroy1234

Malty - Intellect to the average US voter is not an issue, look at the voting for G.W.Bush - ok we all know that Gore actually won, and that Kerry should have won if he actually challenged the system of Florida and Ohio. But, they are only happy if the President believes in God - regardless of the US Constitution separation of church and state.

Buddah

robroy1234 wrote: »

Malty - Intellect to the average US voter is not an issue, look at the voting for G.W.Bush - ok we all know that Gore actually won, and that Kerry should have won if he actually challenged the system of Florida and Ohio. But, they are only happy if the President believes in God - regardless of the US Constitution separation of church and state.

To be fair, intellect to the average Irish voter is not an issue either! Our constitution was written by McQuaid, our schools are owned by the RC and our children are brainwashed or rather were brainwashed by god believers, until the bravery of some parents in setting up non-religious schools.

The Tea Party morons appeal to the red-necks. But make no mistake, there are the politicians who appeal to the monied, the powerful and the very dangerous, and it is these we need to watch. We need a revolution. Not a website one, a real one. I don't see the Sky Fairy punishing our wonderful politicians for their sins, but neither to I see the Irish people wanting to punish the corrupt shower for what they have done to our country, and continue to do.

kylith

robroy1234 wrote: »

Malty - Intellect to the average US voter is not an issue, look at the voting for G.W.Bush - ok we all know that Gore actually won, and that Kerry should have won if he actually challenged the system of Florida and Ohio. But, they are only happy if the President believes in God - regardless of the US Constitution separation of church and state.

Very true. Taking common prejudices into account a black, homosexual, woman has a better chance of being elected than an atheist.

robindch

koth wrote: »

Michele Bachmann says God sent Hurricane Irene to tell politicians to cut government spending.

Nah, according to her spokesman, she was just joking:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0829/breaking50.html

Delirium

robindch wrote: »

Nah, according to her spokesman, she was just joking:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0829/breaking50.html

Dig up, Michelle. dig up!!!

robroy1234

she was joking???? oh ha ha ha......a US Republican, tea-party candidate with a sense of humour.

We lefty, liberals have no sense of humour at all. I mean we should have laughed our socks off when the Sarah Palin and the Tea Partiers posted the US Congressional map of US with the crosshairs of a sniper target placed on seats that they targetted against Democrats....including that off Gabriel Giffords.

We should be in the thralls of laughter with the idea that Sarah Palin/ Tea Party support "2nd Amendment Solution" if they are not elected into a particular region.

We lefties are certainly a miserable bunch for not getting that joke, but maybe they get that joke in North Carolina, New Jersey, New york. I suppose that the families of the 38 people that have been killed due to the Hurricane Irene are peeing themselves with laughter with that wittisome joke...

Galvasean

robindch wrote: »

Nah, according to her spokesman, she was just joking:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0829/breaking50.html

American citizens died... and she was making jokes about it? Presidential material indeed.

Buddah

I sometimes wonder what these Merciful God believers think when they see tiny babies and infants starving to death, or dying in agony by the hundreds of thousands due to lack of clean water or the simpliest of medicines. Not much mercy shown to them, is there, not only by God of course, but by our wonderful world-wide politicians also. Is God a politician do you think? A Republican? They obviously think so. To be perfectly honest I doubt they believe in any God. They just use the concept to appease the believers.

The death of millions by famine and war is proof positive that there is no God, unless it be a Sadistic ba....one.

kylith

Buddah wrote: »

I sometimes wonder what these Merciful God believers think when they see tiny babies and infants starving to death, or dying in agony by the hundreds of thousands due to lack of clean water or the simpliest of medicines. Not much mercy shown to them, is there, not only by God of course, but by our wonderful world-wide politicians also. Is God a politician do you think? A Republican? They obviously think so. To be perfectly honest I doubt they believe in any God. They just use the concept to appease the believers.

The death of millions by famine and war is proof positive that there is no God, unless it be a Sadistic ba....one.

Don't worry, all that needless suffering and death when God could just send rain to break the drought is all part of Gods plan.

I can only assume that the plan is for some kind of doomsday machine fueled by tears.