The Hazards of Belief

ohnonotgmail

Hector Savage wrote: »

What's your point ? you don't think it's a hazard of belief ?

it was this i was referring to:

Surprised this hasn't appeared here - wait of course I'm not surprised ...

You seem to making a dig for some reason.

Odhinn

Hector Savage wrote: »

What's your point ? you don't think it's a hazard of belief ?

It's a deranged taxi driver who killed a child. We have had people here who have killed their own family due to mental illness.

Hector Savage

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

it was this i was referring to:





You seem to making a dig for some reason.

ah sorry yeah , I was meant to add it's not appearing on BBC/RTE/ as well as here.

You know me on this site, Islam seems to get a pass.

Hector Savage

Odhinn wrote: »

It's a deranged taxi driver who killed a child. We have had people here who have killed their own family due to mental illness.

Come on now, you know religion has something to do with it.

ohnonotgmail

Hector Savage wrote: »

ah sorry yeah , I was meant to add it's not appearing on BBC/RTE/ as well as here.

You know me on this site, Islam seems to get a pass.

It does in its arse.

Odhinn

Hector Savage wrote: »

ah sorry yeah , I was meant to add it's not appearing on BBC/RTE/ as well as here.

Thousands die violently in the USA every year. In places like Venezuela and South Africa its worse - roughly 50 a day for South Africa. They don't report on each and every death.

Hector Savage wrote: »

You know me on this site, Islam seems to get a pass.

More a case of most not sharing your agenda.

recedite

Hector Savage wrote: »

Come on now, you know religion has something to do with it.

The killer repeatedly stabbed Zakariya in the neck with a piece of broken glass until he was beheaded, witness accounts of the gruesome killing said.

Don't mention the neck thing around here. They like to think a beheading could happen to anyone, anywhere.
Nothing whatsoever got to do with religion.
Probably self defense.

Odhinn

recedite wrote: »

Don't mention the neck thing around here. They like to think a beheading could happen to anyone, anywhere..

If you have a problem with the members of the forum, you might either layout a coherent argument or take it up with moderation, rather than launch lukewarm snide digs.

recedite wrote: »

Nothing whatsoever got to do with religion.
Probably self defense.

Do please explain to me on what basis you make this declaration.

ohnonotgmail

recedite wrote: »

Don't mention the neck thing around here. They like to think a beheading could happen to anyone, anywhere.
Nothing whatsoever got to do with religion.
Probably self defense.

All we know is that it was a wahhabi follower killing a shia muslim. Was the attack religiously motivated? Possibly.

Odhinn

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

All we know is that it was a wahhabi follower killing a shia muslim. Was the attack religiously motivated? Possibly.

Could well be, but its early yet and there is much in the way of rumour.

ohnonotgmail

Odhinn wrote: »

Could well be, but its early yet and there is much in the way of rumour.

Of course the Saudis are saying that he has mental problems. But they would say that.

Odhinn

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Of course the Saudis are saying that he has mental problems. But they would say that.

And the Iranians will say there's naught wrong with him. However its not in anyway clear why - as the mother allegedly identified herself as Shia - the son was the target of the attack. Nor why she would do so in the first place for that matter.

Hotblack Desiato

Hector Savage wrote: »

You know me on this site, Islam seems to get a pass.

You keep posting this, and each time I point out to you what utter bollocks it is...

Odhinn

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

You keep posting this, and each time I point out to you what utter bollocks it is...

..and he then departs without arguing whatever case he might have.

robindch

Mod:

Hector Savage wrote: »

You know me on this site, Islam seems to get a pass.

Without checking, my memory suggests that you've been called out on this idiotic trope before, quite possibly by multiple posters.

Regardless of that, if you repeat a trope like "nobody ever criticizes islam around here" again, you will be carded for trolling.

Hector Savage

Odhinn wrote: »

Thousands die violently in the USA every year. In places like Venezuela and South Africa its worse - roughly 50 a day for South Africa. They don't report on each and every death.





More a case of most not sharing your agenda.

Agenda! ? :rolleyes:

Hector Savage

Odhinn wrote: »

..and he then departs without arguing whatever case he might have.

It's pure numbers, it's very very rare you see a hazard of belief here related to Islam - despite it being as of today the most hazourdous.

Just scan through the pages here, it's all about christianity, even more stuff on Hinduism FFS!!

Same with the "Funny side of religion".

Hector Savage

robindch wrote: »

Mod:Without checking, my memory suggests that you've been called out on this idiotic trope before, quite possibly by multiple posters.

Regardless of that, if you repeat a trope like "nobody ever criticizes islam around here" again, you will be carded for trolling.

I just saw that know, after posting my previous messages.
I won't post about it again so - but my point stands.

smacl

Hector Savage wrote: »

It's pure numbers, it's very very rare you see a hazard of belief here related to Islam - despite it being as of today the most hazourdous.

Just scan through the pages here, it's all about christianity, even more stuff on Hinduism FFS!!

Same with the "Funny side of religion".

Really? Searching this thread for keywords gives the following results, including partials e.g. Christian includes Christianity, Islam include Islamic etc..

Christian : 490 hits
Islam: 374 hits
Catholic : 364 hits
Muslim : 359 hits

Given that we're on a forum where there are vastly more posters with long term first hand experience of Christianity, I would say that Islam is pretty well represented here and your point is both incorrect and biased.

Hector Savage

smacl wrote: »

Really? Searching this thread for keywords gives the following results, including partials e.g. Christian includes Christianity, Islam include Islamic etc..

Christian : 490 hits
Islam: 374 hits
Catholic : 364 hits
Muslim : 359 hits

Given that we're on a forum where there are vastly more posters with long term first hand experience of Christianity, I would say that Islam is pretty well represented here and your point is both incorrect and biased.

Well just as well I can't bring it up again!!
But damn, those stats do put it to bed tho!!!


It's funny, I wasn't trolling, but skimming through the pages really felt that way.

Anyway

here's a line

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Peregrinus

Hector Savage wrote: »

. . . It's funny, I wasn't trolling, but skimming through the pages really felt that way.

The person responsible for your feelings is you, Hector. Just sayin'.

magicbastarder

probably a bit obvious, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJHzwiYG8bM

Hector Savage

magicbastarder wrote: »

probably a bit obvious, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJHzwiYG8bM

oh God you have opened a can of worms!
But Dara should be honest here, he's afraid - and I would be to.
I mean I get the point with his style of comedy it's very personal and
about his own life but at the same time, it's a tense subject, and the way he apologises to Muslims about mentioning a golden horse - f*ck off Dara!

Anyway, still love the guy one of my fav. stand ups.


Billy Connolly had the same cultural background as him and he had no issues having a bash at Islam.

smacl

Hector Savage wrote: »

But Dara should be honest here, he's afraid

So you're accusing Dara O'Brien of firstly being dishonest and then a coward. Do you have some strong evidence to back this up, or is this just a rather unpleasant baseless attack on someone else's character who doesn't share your worldview?

Hector Savage

smacl wrote: »

So you're accusing Dara O'Brien of firstly being dishonest and then a coward. Do you have some strong evidence to back this up, or is this just a rather unpleasant baseless attack on someone else's character who doesn't share your worldview?

unpleasent ?
hardly unpleasant to suggest he is afraid to slag off something he could be killed for doing - it's not insulting the guy.


Why apologise ? , why handle something with mittens on - if he said what he said without the grovelling at the end, i'd have an easier time believing him.

Anyway, that's my opinion, and I'm allready on a warning here so I won't be posting further.

nozzferrahhtoo

Hector Savage wrote: »

the way he apologises to Muslims about mentioning a golden horse

He didn't. You just heard the word "apologies" and decided on his behalf what was going to follow without actually listening to it.

What he "apologized" for, and it was part of the bit, was the related ignorance about Islam, not his mentioning a golden horse. He was not saying "Sorry I mentioned a horse" he was saying "Sorry if my mentioning it leaves you wondering what horse, what the hell is he talking about"?

The joke here, a feigned apology for the purposes of humor, is that the example he uses is liable to leave a Muslim thinking "What the hell is he talking about". His entire point was that his ignorance, and that of his audience, means trying to make jokes about Islam would be pointless. And he is using the "horse" to highlight he has no idea about Islam, and neither does that audience.

So in fact you not getting the joke at all, which you patently seem not to have, is kinda making his entire point for him. You are the very person his bit was making comedy about.

Hector Savage wrote: »

Why apologise ? , why handle something with mittens on - if he said what he said without the grovelling at the end

He wasn't, there was no grovelling at all. It was part of the bit and was actually laughing at ignorance rather than apologizing for anything. You appear to be merely triggered by anyone using the word "apologies" towards anyone Muslim. And the moment they even dare to use the word, you go off on a complete misrepresentation of their content and intent and meaning, while using the most abject phrases to describe it that you can.

Zubeneschamali

Hector Savage wrote: »

the way he apologises to Muslims about mentioning a golden horse - f*ck off Dara!

You just proved his point - he makes one joke about islam and you didn't get it.

Odhinn

Hector Savage wrote: »

It's pure numbers, it's very very rare you see a hazard of belief here related to Islam - despite it being as of today the most hazourdous.

Just scan through the pages here, it's all about christianity, even more stuff on Hinduism FFS!!

Same with the "Funny side of religion".

Why wouldn't there be christian and hindu related hazards? You have a fixation about Islam and muslims, for whatever reason.

Zubeneschamali

Odhinn wrote: »

Why wouldn't there be christian and hindu related hazards?

It also ignores the obvious point that folks here know more about the hazards of Christianity, particularly Catholicism, from personal experience.

robindch

Hector Savage wrote: »

robindch wrote: »

Mod:Without checking, my memory suggests that you've been called out on this idiotic trope before, quite possibly by multiple posters. Regardless of that, if you repeat a trope like "nobody ever criticizes islam around here" again, you will be carded for trolling.

I just saw that know, after posting my previous messages. I won't post about it again so - but my point stands.

Your point stands?

You have been carded for trolling and ignoring a moderator instruction.