The Hazards of Belief

Professor Plumb

Dades wrote: »

5uspect certainly isn't a member of any church I know of.

Also, you'll see after point 5 in the charter we don't disallow that sort of thing out of interest's sake.

So are you all interested in going to Churches then?

bnt

Surprised I haven't seen this here yet:

'Harry Potter' actress Afshan Azad's father and brother have been charged with attempting to kill her in their Manchester home, according to the BBC. Afshan, 22, plays Padma Patil, a classmate to Harry, Ron, and Hermione in the 'Harry Potter' films. Her father, Abdul Azad, 54, and brother Ashraf, 28, appeared in court Tuesday for threatening to kill her. Ashraf is also charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm against his sister. The case was adjourned until July 12.
According to People, the attack was perhaps motivated because "her family, who are Muslim, did not approve of her relationship with a Hindu man."

This kind of thing happens far too often - but since it's the Huffington Post, the commenters are fighting over who can be the most Politically Correct. Perhaps, since it's happened to a celebrity of sorts, it'll garner more media outrage than it typically does. :mad:

magicbastarder

the huffington post also seems to have turned a threat into an attempt.

J C

robindch wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10338900.stm

"We are against the internet" -- lovely!

This raises all kinds of very interesting questions. The Ashkenazim and the Sephardic Jews do seem to have very different worldviews.
This raises a somewhat familiar question as to the rights of orthodox religious parents to impart their religious outlook to their children.
I understand that the Ashkenazim are Jews of European descent, many of whom have relatives who died in the Holocaust.

5uspect

Professor Plumb wrote: »

How did they mine Dawkins and what were the devastating bible quotes?

Oh, the usual bull****. The magazine has long since found a new home with Mr. Binman. This article is similar to it.

Are you a member of their Church?

Certainly not, I posted the link in a point at the poor deluded fools and snigger sort of way. I am an arrogant atheist after all.

Dades wrote: »

5uspect certainly isn't a member of any church I know of.

I think I'm still technically a Catholic, tho I did sign up to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

J C

sonicthebadger* wrote: »

I think I can paraphrase his views more succinctly

"I don't want my daughter to be educated ..."

I don't think that he said that ... do you have proof that he did?

Stercus Accidit

sonicthebadger* wrote: »

I think I can paraphrase his views more succinctly

"I don't want my daughter to be educated ..."

J C wrote: »

I don't think that he said that ... do you have proof that he did?

see bold

J C

sonicthebadger wrote:

I think I can paraphrase his views more succinctly

"I don't want my daughter to be educated ..."

... do you have the statement in which he said that he didn't want his daughter educated ... that you paraphrased?

Stercus Accidit

J C wrote: »

... do you have the statement in which he said that he didn't want his daughter educated ... that you paraphrased?

What? Wasn't me.

J C

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

What? Wasn't me.

My apologies - I have adjusted the post.

nozzferrahhtoo

.... win the first ever Atheist Ireland "The really, truly True Believer™ of the Month Award June 2010"

http://www.atheist.ie/2010/07/the-really-truly-true-believer%e2%84%a2-of-the-month-award-june-2010/

Mark Hamill

Ok, while technically nothing bad has happened yet, I am putting this article here in Hazards, because I expect this sort of thing to come back and bite someone in the ass (so to speak):
'Virginity test' helps free 3 in Vietnam rape case :

HANOI, Vietnam — An acupuncturist who claims she can detect a man's virginity based on a small dot on the ear has become a minor celebrity in Vietnam, where she is credited with helping to free three convicted rapists from prison.

Pygmalion

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Ok, while technically nothing bad has happened yet

Unless those three men were guilty of rape.

Byron85

I'm watching The Frontline at the moment and one of the Fianna Fail ministers, who is obviously against the Civil Partnership Bill, said that the country is under attack from "aggressive secularists". :rolleyes:

Pygmalion

T.W.H Byron wrote: »

I'm watching The Frontline at the moment and one of the Fianna Fail ministers, who is obviously against the Civil Partnership Bill, said that the country is under attack from "aggressive secularists". :rolleyes:

Best thing that could happen to secularists IMO.

I think a lot of "middle-of-the-road" people seem to see secularists as intolerant of religious beliefs (I'm not saying this isn't the case a lot of the time) and see that as a bad thing.
Now that secularists are in the spotlight for supporting gay rights, and are under attack for it, these people might just begin to see why it's not that simple.

The Mad Hatter

T.W.H Byron wrote: »

I'm watching The Frontline at the moment and one of the Fianna Fail ministers, who is obviously against the Civil Partnership Bill, said that the country is under attack from "aggressive secularists". :rolleyes:

Yes, and Iona Institute guy kept going on about "traditional morality." That was a bloody terrible debate. Bacik did horribly.

Edit: I am glad the FF Senator got laughed at when he mentioned those aggressive secularists, though.

Ghost Buster

T.W.H Byron wrote: »

I'm watching The Frontline at the moment and one of the Fianna Fail ministers, who is obviously against the Civil Partnership Bill, said that the country is under attack from "aggressive secularists". :rolleyes:

Yup. I saw that and he was referring to a softly spoken and articulate retired judge who had just spoken her views on the matter. Aggressive Jim but not as we know it!

Byron85

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Yup. I saw that and he was referring to a softly spoken and articulate retired judge who had just spoken her views on the matter. Aggressive Jim but not as we know it!

The supreme court judge was fantastic. She was everything that the Fianna Fail and Iona Institute representatives weren't; intelligent.

The Iona Institute bug me quite a lot. They are rather active on campus in UCC and I think that they get funding from the college.

Edit: On that last part about the Iona Institute; the Chaplaincy in UCC, along with the Iona Institute, get €30.29 of the registration fees that every student pays. That amounts to €580,000.

Dades

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Yes, and Iona Institute guy kept going on about "traditional morality." That was a bloody terrible debate. Bacik did horribly.

Indeed. That FF Senator just came across as the spokesperson for an outgoing, but stubborn generation.

robindch

T.W.H Byron wrote: »

the Chaplaincy in UCC, along with the Iona Institute, get €30.29 of the registration fees that every student pays. That amounts to €580,000.

Where's this documented, and can individual students opt out of paying the 30 euro?

magicbastarder

i imagine not; their response would probably be that your fees pay for lots of other services you may not use.

Byron85

robindch wrote: »

Where's this documented, and can individual students opt out of paying the 30 euro?

Registration:

Students' Union €54.42
Clubs Executive €46.75
Societies Guild €37.40
Students' Centre Operational €41.14
Students' Centre Capital €117.06
Careers Service and Appointments Office €68.07
Accomodations Office €23.56
Chaplaincy €30.29
Disability Services €63.02
PE and Sports Facilities €94.43
Student Health and Counselling €118.18
Examination Expenses and Exams Office €142.59
Fees Office €31.04
Admissions Office €64.42
Student Records Office €39.55
Other - Space Costs associated with Student Services €152.40
HEA increases corresponding with net decrease in funding from the exchequer €373.99
TOTAL: €1,500.00

Capitation:

Mardyke Arena Operational (Membership Fee) €100
Mardyke Arena Capital €40
USI Contribution €5
Publications Contribution €2
Students' Union Common Room Contribution €3
TOTAL: €150.00

Eliot Rosewater

In fairness, the Chaplaincy in UCC is open to all sorts of folks. I doubt you have to be even religious.

But I can't say I'd be pleased if they're using my money to fund some religious campaign.

Ah well, nothing I can do about it.

Byron85

Eliot Rosewater wrote: »

In fairness, the Chaplaincy in UCC is open to all sorts of folks. I doubt you have to be even religious.

But I can't say I'd be pleased if they're using my money to fund some religious campaign.

Ah well, nothing I can do about it.

The chaplaincy and the Iona Institute are one and the same on campus as far as I know. I have a major problem with that. Well, as you know from other posts of mine, I have a major problem with the S.U getting money as it is. I'm a cheapskate.

rainbow kirby

Delusion and cognitive dissonance are eventually going to kill this guy. Just look at his face and eyes when he starts talking about his wife (near the end).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWaN0xnzYDw

Ickle Magoo

Oh dear, who are you trying to convince, us or yourself.

Paul the octopus predicts "ex-gay found with rent-boy" follow-up YouTube posting in the near future... :pac:

robindch

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Just look at his face and eyes when he starts talking about his wife

On his wedding night, he starts shouting a man's name at the crucial moment?

Hmmm...

Byron85

I must say, that scarf of his IS FABULOUS!!

amacachi

At first I thought 2.00 was the funniest bit, but then he started going on about about how dirty and disgusting it was and he just had to collect himself. :pac:

Galvasean

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Delusion and cognitive dissonance are eventually going to kill this guy. Just look at his face and eyes when he starts talking about his wife (near the end).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWaN0xnzYDw

Really? Based on the still he looks like he has something up his bum! :eek:

edit: Did he just list Special K as a drug?



Well, I'll be damned..